Celtic Banter Archive August 29 2018

29 Aug 2018 22:12:15
Ed, we need like 4/ 5 signings if Dembele goes, you reckon we'll even get close to that?

{Ed007's Note -

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29 Aug 2018 22:25:13
You can see its just disjointed panicking by the fans Ed. can't really blame them tbh can you. It's looking grim.

{Ed007's Note - I understand the fans frustration and feel the same way if I'm honest but I can't keep answering the same questions over and over again about what I think, it doesn't change much and especially in the space of a couple of hours.
How many times have I said that I expect some players to leave and that I expect 3 or 4 new signings - loans or permanent - because that's what the manager has said we are trying to do?
Why's it looking grim, are Lyon fans saying it's looking grim leaving it this late to sign Dembele? It wasn't too long ago that there were a lot of people on here arguing with me that we didn't need 3 first team strikers on the books so it looks like they've got their wish and we've banked £20 odd million, why's there no celebrations from them?}

29 Aug 2018 22:30:09
From what I can see, Ed007 is like the rest of us. Fingers crossed, wait and see.

{Ed007's Note - I'm a bit tired and that might have been a bit bitchy, sorry lads, it's been a long week for me with one thing and another.}

29 Aug 2018 22:54:57
Bitchy? I don't know how you don't **** the laptop out the window every transfer window bud.

{Ed007's Note - Oooffft I'd need to start a go fund me page to replace it lol

29 Aug 2018 22:59:44
If Griff is leading the line on Sunday we have a problem.

29 Aug 2018 23:03:25
I think 20 million plus is a great deal for Dembele. 50 goals in 2 seasons will be hard to replace but I can’t really remember him getting a proper run of games without an injury striking him. He leaves with my best wishes and some great Hunskelping memories.

I would love to see us go for someone completely different to what we already have up top. A target man or the likes where we can play a bit differently if needed. The 3 we have all very similar and as we are struggling to break a lot of teams down so something different might be the answer.

29 Aug 2018 22:51:39
No need to apologise, we know your busy and also have a lot going on at home to deal with. You should take it all as a compliment though mate, guys on here value your opinion and knowledge on all things Celtic. However, i can see why its frustrating out of you. We are all kids and your the school teacher.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Shug but fair's fair and I'll apologise if I need to to. On top of everything else Yoda's had more $hit running out him the past 24 hours than a Rangers EBT recipient so I didn't get much sleep last night.}

29 Aug 2018 23:20:47
I don't know when I started noticing the 'what do you think, Ed' posts, but they seem to me relatively recent? The bewildered herd--I include my bewildered self--want news from delphos. But the fact is ed007 is often oracular.

We used to put the lack of rumours down to the board conducting business professionally in private. Now?

{Ed007's Note - I am feckin not oracular I'll have you know!! I try and follow a healthy diet and I'm regular as clockwork so there's nothing oracular about my bowels. Hhhmmpphhh talk about a cheap dig!!!}

29 Aug 2018 23:58:09
At the moment we haven’t lost one regular starter from a team who have won back to back trebles. We’ve got teams from all over Europe allegedly poised to offer sums of between £10m to £20m for four of our players and I fully expect to sell no more than two and if we do, we’ll get top dollar for them. We might bring in a couple but to be honest, I wouldn’t be too bothered if we don’t. By Monday we’ll be in the group stages of the EL and we’ll be 4 points clear of Sevco and on our way to another league title, possibly even a third treble. I do wish people would stop posting doom and gloom stories because they have as much foundation as the pish being written in the Scottish press. We’re in a better place than we’ve been in a long time.

30 Aug 2018 00:09:05
The way I see it players in demand like Christie and Hayes (Aberdeen) Allan (Hibs) Compper (Pay off) Boyata (Turkey) Dembele (France) will free up the chance for us to get players in. We have got an over inflated squad. So movement out needs doing first before we decide our Euro fat, especially after the failure of qualifying for the CL. The books need balanced. And I'm sure BR has said who he can do without and who he needs in as a replacement which up until now he has been clear is a PR and SA replacement first off. If Boyata leaves a replacement and if Dembele leaves a replacement for him too. But we can't afford to ship out before we get in either as we could end up really short of cover so it's finding a replacement first. Something will be sorted and as ED has said some will praise the signings and others will criticize the signings, but we will get people in. To be fair if the likes of Terry, Solanke, Chirivella and Benkovic come in we can't say they aren't of quality. we would've done well to get that kind of quality through the door which I still think is a big task considering the situation we are in.

30 Aug 2018 00:25:36
Have faith in Griff Jonnymac. The little fella produces on the big stage. Don’t think their two centre halves will fancy running around after him with his movement. Once Griff has bagged a couple we’ll bring on French Eddy to dust them off 👍🏻.

30 Aug 2018 04:05:48
Got to have money on wee Griff getting his 100th Celtic goal against the new club.

30 Aug 2018 10:21:50
Bhoys hope you are right. Been waiting for him to come good and the chances he has against AEK and the EL game last week tells me he is not the player he was a couple of seasons ago.

29 Aug 2018 21:25:27
Hi ED 007 reports coming out of France are deal agreed for MD for 22.5m this was mentioned on Clyde one tonight have you heard this?

{Ed007's Note - No, I read it.}

29 Aug 2018 22:23:05
If true fair play wish MD all the best and we now move on.

29 Aug 2018 21:11:30
Would like to see us go and buy the boy Pedro Chirivella from Liverpool for 2.5m
Wishful thinking though.

29 Aug 2018 19:17:47
Quadruple quality signings hitting headlines on Saturday morn would be a helluva bombshell to drop on the brain donors! Just saying that we know nothing concrete as of yet. Not sure I can believe that the club would allow things to slip so badly even if that looks pretty likely the night. If it does pan out that MD leaves with Boyata and we get the usual project/ loans that would make me think that there is something very wrong at the club. I'm focusing on that game the morra first and holding onto hope of a sensational deadline day.

29 Aug 2018 19:41:06
If all we have coming in on Friday are loan signings, then DD should sell his shares and take PL with him.
Would anyone take Usmanov, formerly of Arsenal, who likes to spend a bit of cash.
He could easily sponsor us in January, for say £25 million, so we could get some players in.

29 Aug 2018 21:24:26
I still think we should include an imported player in the Moussa deal as if it's a top French side, fair chance they have spare quality.

29 Aug 2018 21:33:20
Sorry mate but I don’t know where to begin with that one. Was only trying to be positive but that’s moon beam material! I was throwing my suggestion as positive banter because it looks grim atm but DD leaving, we might as well talk about hoppy coming out rocking Butchers Apron Hummel heat on Sunday 😂.

29 Aug 2018 21:57:38
Agree OAB, meaty sell on cut too.

29 Aug 2018 18:45:22
ED see the fact that MDs agent and reps have traveled to Glasgow on an instant that to me speaks big volumes I think it's as good as done or am I getting it all wrong?

{Ed007's Note - I doubt his agent just turned up today, the meeting was probably planned ahead of the window closing.}

29 Aug 2018 19:11:46
I think the fact that Lyon have said they have other options quite clearly suggest they don't want to pay what we are asking for, if they did he would probably be on his way for a medical as we speak.
I still have a funny feeling he will be here come Sunday I think that big Moussa loves the hoops very much.

29 Aug 2018 19:44:59
Reports from France saying deal done for MD in the region of 22m.

29 Aug 2018 20:55:14
Oh well it was fun while lasted, will forever be known as the hunskelper 💚🍀 HH.

29 Aug 2018 17:36:40
What if, dembele signs an extension? stranger things can happen! then let him go in january? or is it wishful thinking lol.

29 Aug 2018 18:00:27
He doesn't need to sign an extension to stay until January or June as he has almost 2 yrs left on existing contract.

29 Aug 2018 19:34:58
Two days left and we are scrabbling around for signings. All the other clubs will know it as well. Added to that it looks as though moussa is on his way. This window has been a disaster, so far i hope. Can't believe we are throwing away a position of such strength. We should have buried that mob. My big hope for the season is to win the league to keep the 10 in a row a possibility. What sort of ambition is that?

29 Aug 2018 22:53:25
To keep ten in a row on going is a very worthwhile ambition .
It shows how much we have been spoiled when we regard winning the SPL as a wonderful worthwhile ambition.

29 Aug 2018 16:57:27
Afternoon ED, what's your take on our dealings this transfer window and what's your gut feeling on what could happen in the next 2 days? As it stands we've lost Roberts, Armstrong, possibly boyata and now looking like dembele. We've brought in a £9 million project in Edouard ( no disrespect to him) Morgan, Bain and re signed Izzy. Now to me that makes us considerably weaker than last season and while I do appreciate we need bodies out the door, I never thought we'd be sitting with 2 and a bit days left of this window in this current situation when it's abundantly clear to most where our squad needs strengthened. I do understand there's still time for bodies to come in but by god there's not much so I hope we're well down the line with a few targets as for me, if we sell dembele, possibly boyata and don't bring in the 3/ 4 players that Brendan says he wants then that's unforgivable for me.

{Ed007's Note - There's nothing I can really add to that, Garry, I agree with every word mate. The next couple of days should be interesting.}

29 Aug 2018 17:20:51
The thing is, I appreciate we needed to offload some players but I don’t think any of our fans would have thought it would have been four of our main players. I know some will say Armstrong wasn’t a main player last year but he was a big squad player where if he was needed we weren’t weakened in any way.

29 Aug 2018 17:15:21
Cheers ED, absolutely gutted with this news regarding dembele. I new he’d go at some point but not this window and certainly not this close to the window closing, and to top it off all this on the eve of the suduva game ( which I fully expect us to win convincingly) but the weekend of the game against that mob.

{Ed007's Note - When the Pub League window closed I thought we had a great chance of keeping him as Marseilles - who are long term admirers of Demble - were/are planning to sign another player, Balotelli was one and Giroud I think it is from Chelsea who they will be meeting in London on Friday.}

29 Aug 2018 17:38:09
Selling dembele with 2 days of the transfer window left is diabolical. I hope he doesn’t get sold but the way this window has happened we will probably lose dembele and boyata and no one coming in. I want at least 8 million spent on a replacement for dembele but that won’t happen because of our wage structure 🤬.

29 Aug 2018 17:42:49
Totally agree Quinn1888, there’s quite a few players in our squad that shouldn’t be there and have been around for the last 2/ 3 years and haven’t made a stamp on the team, but to lose Roberts, Armstrong, possibly boyata and looking like dembele? That’s shocking from us, granted there was no certainties with Roberts, Armstrong wanted to go south ( and that’s fine, what isn’t is we’ve not yet replaced him. If we lose a quality player we MUST have someone ready to come in) the situation with boyata is a joke, we knock back £9 million on a guy that clearly doesn’t want to be here and has no intention of signing a new deal, now there’s this crap with dembele? With griffiths and Edouard’s injury history we need 3 top strikers and that was before rodgers said he wanted 3/ 4 players in, so if dembele does go is that now 4/ 5 players rodgers wants in?

29 Aug 2018 18:05:31
I know we are supposedly after only “quality “ players but for us to look to get in 3-4-5 players in the last day is a joke . Say what you want about the huns but you have to say they seem to go after a player and get him quickly. We seem to be linked, then distance ourselves, link again, go for a loan . Then scramble around at the end saying we ran out of time. They sign 13 players and we run out of time! Just pay the going rate and accept it, it’s doing my head in how inept we have been.

29 Aug 2018 18:06:53
We are in a bad place now with transfers and possible transfers, but really for the sake of our sanity we might as well wait until the window closes to evaluate just how bad or otherwise the window has been.

29 Aug 2018 18:41:01
Quinn I’m no worried about what rangers have signed or how many they’ve signed, I mean they needed a clear out and Gerrard has definitely improved them which to be fair wouldn’t have been hard, what infuriates me is we sell Armstrong, Rodgers says we must replace him, hasn’t happened, Stevie wonder could see we need 2 new CB’s and a new RB yet we’ve still not addressed the situation. Brendan has consistently said we’re weaker than last year, he’s consistently said we need 3/ 4 signings and it hasn’t happened, now 2 days before the window closes we’re on the brink of losing dembele? I do understand we’ve players we need to get out the door but we need to improve also, we’ve gone stale.

29 Aug 2018 18:50:33
Rangers have repeated what they did in summer window 2016, 2017 this yr 2018 . Only lunatics repeat the same thing and expect different results.

29 Aug 2018 19:51:05
I see your point Chris but if the window shut now surely you can’t deny that the people have closed the gap on us, through our own work and some of the players they have recruited. Can anyone be confident here that we are going to bring in these 3/ 4 players that Rogers wants by Friday? And a possible replacement for moose?

29 Aug 2018 23:04:00
I certainly would not be convinced . The Scottish Media and Rangers 2012 have told us how wonderful they are . Funny thing they told us that in 2016 and 2017 .
Remember the future England keeper with the next England Manager and also Joey Barton and the Croatian midfielder . Was there any point in us turning up? Last season was just the same a team of stars with a £13 m striker .
At least the last two seasons they had managers and even under 20 manager filling in . Now no manager, just an under 18 boys coach.

29 Aug 2018 23:08:29
OMC, Rangers will be up with us, if not in front of us this season.

29 Aug 2018 23:30:35
Good luck Johhnymac, I always like a good positive Celtic man . Even Rangers2012.fans don't expect it, they are going for 2nd.

29 Aug 2018 16:38:03
It'll be a noticeable loss imo Andy, but i'm confident griff and eddy will do the job, and we hopefully spend in january.

29 Aug 2018 23:11:16
Dont think Griff has shown any spark at all So far. can't understand why you think Griff is going to all of a sudden get back on the goal trail.

29 Aug 2018 16:30:00
Ed the lad Luiz from city do you know much about him?

{Ed007's Note - As a player, Nicky? Nah mate, sorry.}

29 Aug 2018 15:30:44
Do people really believe dembele will go this window? it'd be suicide for PL. IF he does, we will spend a lot in january.

29 Aug 2018 15:52:26
I'm scared to go to bed because i'm terrified when I wake up that Dembelle will be gone.

I hope we enjoyed the past 2 seasons because i'm not confident we will ever see them again.

Rangers will bombared us with high balls and crosses on Sunday, I pray we can deal with it and have a go at their slow centre backs.

Pissed off down under.

29 Aug 2018 16:01:24
I love your enthusiasm but we say this every window

"we need to know our CL fate before spending" Then if we qualify we spend nothing.

"if we sell these players now, we will have money in January" - January comes and we get a Musonda style loan.

It's just never going to get spent lol. Now Dembele is away for £20mil probably and we will maybe see £5mil of it spend lol, if that.

29 Aug 2018 16:06:53
No we won’t. We’ve had big transfer fees in the past and not spent anything. Wanyama, Forster, Van Djik ect. There’s nearly £40m in transfer fees and only a fraction of it spent on strengthening the team.

29 Aug 2018 16:39:14
There’s no way we are spending loads, all we hear next is January is a really tough window to get players in. We hear it all the time, same bull. I didn’t think we would go back to times like this especially under Rogers as I’d have thought Desmond would have wanted to back him. And before people say he’s been backed by wages going up, unfortunately wages are going up all the time for footballers . So unless we fill the team with under 18 we have to offer half decent wages to keep players here as they all know they can get better in championship or below in England . Look at the Aberdeen lad who went to Salford for bigger wages .
Sometimes when we get close to having the base for a really good side we seem apprehensive about pushing on that little bit more to be a complete side. We have good forwards, crap defence. Good defence, poor attackers. We had the opportunity to push the people into our rear view mirror and sail away to the magical 10 and we have let them smell blood.

29 Aug 2018 14:51:59
This is now beyond hilarious. In a week where all the talk should about 3 or 4 quality signings coming in to strengthen our squad, which is quite clearly weaker than last year and all the talk is of us selling our prized asset. What in God's good name is going on at our. I'm absolutely dumbfounded. I honestly believe it's time for DD and PL to move on as our club is moving in a backward direction.

29 Aug 2018 15:10:58
What did you expect to happen with Dembele? We encourage players to join us, develop and then move elsewhere for a big fee. This is our business model and it won’t be changing any time soon.

29 Aug 2018 16:19:29
I’ll tell you what I didn’t expect, MD to be sold on the last day of the transfer window with no time to buy a replacement I also didn’t expect Armstrong and Roberts not to be replaced. I also didn’t expect us to invest next to nothing on the team after raking in 2 years worth of champions league money as well as transfer fees and the sell on clause for VVD. If you think we’re moving forward as a club then fair play to you.

29 Aug 2018 17:06:52
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dave King and his board are back to high 5ing and back slapping after beating us at Parkhead on Sunday.

We are a shambles of a club. (Apologies for the language but completely done in) .

29 Aug 2018 13:59:12
i need a beer after all this Dembele talk.

29 Aug 2018 13:54:57
Unfortunately it looks like moose will be off, this close to the end of the window. I can’t believe that we took our eye of the ball with the champions league qualifying with the Boyata situation, and now with the moose missing the team meeting today he’s obviously not going to be involved for the Europa game. The club are taking massive risks here with the fans, finances just looking at short term profit so Lawell can pocket his bonus. Worst case scenario is we don’t go through and struggle against the people on Sunday, I think the fans will be in uproar about what’s happened this season so far. We seem to be gambling is getting the eight at the minute . Worrying times.

29 Aug 2018 14:36:21
Unfortunately more ammunition and encouragement for our rivals and detractors and it's very bitter because every factor from the failure to strengthen the squad, to the horrendous defense blunders that caused our inability to qualify for CL have been self inflicted.
Only three days to go in the window and two really big games on the horizon to finally get things right and jolt the club upward/ onward.

29 Aug 2018 01:28:04
Hi Ed
Just on SSN that Yaya Toure's agent said he has passed a medical with an unnamed club and will be joining them soon.
Is there any chance it is us?
Personally I think he would be outstanding up here.

{Ed007's Note - He wants to stay in England

29 Aug 2018 12:31:02
Yaya Toure is going to Olympiakos HH.

29 Aug 2018 12:40:47
Fulham.

29 Aug 2018 10:53:29
Right somebody make something up this is getting ridiculous.

29 Aug 2018 11:08:11
Robbie Keane and Shay Given seen at Ross Hall having medicals.

29 Aug 2018 11:16:24
Ben Arfa is on his way and my balls are even bigger than Ed007's.

{Ed007's Note - :-D

29 Aug 2018 11:18:57
Yaya Toure has passed a medical in London and not necessarily for a London based team?
His agent is quoted as saying “Yaya is a champion, not for last place” aimed at Palace and West Ham.
You could also throw in Watford and Fulham into that, arsenal are no longer a top 4 team and won’t go to them after they turned him down before, won’t be Chelsea as they have more midfielders than us 😂
So that leaves spurs?
Jamiebhoy also said the other night about the rise in shares and being at an all time high, so looks like somethings happening! At least one decent signing surely or just coincidence?
That made up enough for you Mally?

29 Aug 2018 11:31:23
Plus if am right that's where Edouard had his medical was London.

29 Aug 2018 12:32:07
Toure is going to Olympiakos.

29 Aug 2018 09:55:27
Hoping there's a bit of movement today. But its starting to look as thought we might have to wait until our Euro fate is sealed before players commit?

29 Aug 2018 08:25:37
Going to a very busy 2 and half days if we are going to sign 4 players. how many do w3 honestly think we will sign and if you think we will sign anyone who will it be?

29 Aug 2018 08:41:44
I’m now not bothering about bringing anyone in what’s the point? My main concern is we will probably lose Moussa to round off the worst start to a season for as long as I can remember. So much hope pissed away and here we are on Wednesday and still zero.

29 Aug 2018 08:53:02
Magicpole, I feel your frustration but here's hoping.
Remember, until the window closes it remains open and anything can happen. I'm not confident of any major developments but I'd be surprised if we don't see some positive news. HH.

29 Aug 2018 09:15:58
I think at best we'll get in a couple of loans. At worst we lose boyata and moussa.

Where it will actually be imo is no one else in or out n boyata goes in January for cut price fee. Rodgers will not accept rangers game and EL games with other CHs n it'll be on the clubs ineptitude that'll cost them the boyata fee now, on top of the 40mill lost in CL, can't believe AEK are there.

29 Aug 2018 10:08:47
If our record in these windows is anything to go by, we stutter and dither right to the last day leaving the manager, squad and support guessing/ wondering what we will have at the club come Sept 1st to compete for and defend the seasons trophies.
The speculation has mostly come from disruptive media and optimistic rumour mongers; because as we know there has been very little valid info leaked or divulged from Celtic themselves.
Worst case scenario, is we lose a star player (MD) and grab a couple of last ditch loan deals that nobody else wanted and the longer we leave it the less choice and little quality is left.
The manager should have had at least two signings in place before the AEK qualifier, but here we are the day before the EL play-off sitting on the edge of our seats waiting, wondering and hoping; but we have learned never to build our hopes up with this board.