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07 Oct 2018 08:46:05
I think BR needs to find a formation that best suits the players we have and fast, this is my preferred team for the moment with the players we have.

Gordon

Gamboa Boyata Benkovic KT
Mulumbu Brown
Kouassi
Forrest Eddy
Griff

A bit more solid and bit more balance to the team for me, with 3 defensive/ ball winning midfielder it will offer the defence a bit more protection and also allow Gamboa and KT the chance to get forward and create. Requires a lot of running the channels creating space and overlaps though from the front 3. To many of our midfield are off the boil and should be dropped.


1.) 07 Oct 2018 09:33:57
That formation and line up has 0-0 written all over it๐Ÿ˜ฉ.


2.) 07 Oct 2018 09:37:03
Kouassi?


3.) 07 Oct 2018 10:00:05
Or you could just leave it to the guy who won back to back trebles.


4.) 07 Oct 2018 10:06:16
Bain more than deserves a chance although BR can't see past Gordon.
Ralston and Gamboa are another two that aren't quoted, although everyone can see how much Lustig has deteriorated.
Ntcham has done nothing since scoring the winner against Sevco, while Mulumbu looks keen to impress and the Griff/ Eddy combo needs work.
I would like to see something like this?
With Gordon, Eddy, Izzy, Rogic, Ntcham, Lustig, Johnston in reserve:-

Bain
Gamboa Boyata Benkovic/ Simunovic KT
Forrest Brown Mulumbu McGregor Sinclair
Griffiths.


5.) 07 Oct 2018 10:38:35
Ralston has done nothing to deserve a place any time I've seen him he's been bang average.


6.) 07 Oct 2018 12:48:22
Bit like lustig and gamboa think Hendry is better bet at rb.


 

 

06 Oct 2018 01:10:18
I'm still struggling with the amount of abuse the boy Hendry seems to be getting, I think it is unfair to be honest.

My take on the game the other night is simple and it is the same take on every game we play against decent opposition in euro matches.

When trying to play out from the back ( defenders) your players have to be able to take the ball under pressure ( midfielders ) and make passes to teammates. We had 3 guys playing in middle of the pitch of which only 1 showed up and was able to take the ball not give it away every time, this just isn't good enough for me. Had we been playing an elite champions league team the other night we would have been 3 or 4 down at half-time. Ntcham and McGregor just not at the races just now, while I agree our defence ain't the best it can't be easy to be under so much intense pressure for so much of a game. Add to this the fact we now don't have a striker to play with his back to goal and take ball in or bring others into play as a focal point. We are really struggling at the moment. Wee griff looks fat and just isn't working as hard on the pitch as he used to for whatever reason I don't know.
We need a big clear out for sure before we bring anyone else in for sure, while I like BR there are things I don't like about him. If we want to compete at that level we need someone who just doesn't make mistakes when bringing players in.


1.) 06 Oct 2018 05:21:29
In the past i thought the criticism was unfair because i was sure the lad had something, but you can't teach basic defending. Not putting a tackle in against partick thistle, not closing down the space for killies first, losing his man at the corner for their second goal, then in salzburg hesitating to close the scorer down with only one pass on for their equaliser. It is basic defending he should do automatically especially playing full time football, if he needs time to think these things through first, then he should not be playing at this level. I hate criticising one of our players but an amatuer player would have prevented the goals i mentioned above, sorry jack.


2.) 06 Oct 2018 09:47:55
I have never been a fan of playing out from the back, it gives me the fear watching it! How many times do you see teams trying to play out from the back but just end up playing it back to the keeper ( because CB's are being closed down in their own 18 yard box ๐Ÿ˜จ) who punts it up the park which is what he should have done to begin with๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I really don't understand and can't see why managers think these suicidal tactics are the way ahead? This is exactly why so many CB's are low on confidence and are being labelled "bombscare" "liability" etc. It's not their fault it's their managers fault asking them to dribble and mess about with the ball in their own box. Just put in row Z problem solved๐Ÿ‘.


3.) 06 Oct 2018 10:42:15
Malkybhoy

Lumping the ball up the park is what's wrong with Scottish football. The odd occasion maybe but not as a strategy. Our young boys not just Celtic are poor technically because we get educated to lump ball, clear the lines, row z all that caveman football.


4.) 06 Oct 2018 10:59:26
The fear is seeing the ball passed between Boyata, Lustig, Hendry and Gordon hundreds of times. All aren't great passers of the ball and all are indecisive and take to long to make their mind up which just allows the opposition to press and steal possession off us. It's boring to see how long it takes us to get from defence to midfield when opposition teams can do it 20 passes quicker.


5.) 06 Oct 2018 11:03:26
Look I know the lad is 23 but he is untested at the level we play at and it is a steep learning curve, making mistakes is how you improve and I'm sure the lad will improve as does BR obviously. I just think a little more support instead of ridicule will help the lad. I mean look at Ajer he makes mistakes now and again gets outmuscled I'm the odd game but receives nowhere near the same level of criticism from our fans. I mean it was only a few months ago everyone was calling Boyata a bombscare and look at him now haha.


6.) 06 Oct 2018 11:57:32
Its very much Rodgers fault that we have bombscares in defence, spot on malkybhoy. โ˜˜HH.


7.) 06 Oct 2018 12:48:36
So Happyhoppy our young players aren't technically gifted because "they get educated to lump the ball"๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Don't you think it's because of the lack of investment in grass roots football and/ or lack of quality coaches? Clearing your lines ( Row Z) prevents conceading goals and goes a long way to help in winning football matches! I believe they call it the basics๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.


8.) 06 Oct 2018 14:13:02
Malkybhoy lots if reason for Scottish football being poor technically. Your prehistoric views are the most damaging. Lump it, row z all that twaddle.


9.) 06 Oct 2018 14:50:15
A CB priority is to clear the ball end off! That is their primary role! . Happyhoppy our young players would benefit from better coaching, is that not what training is for? Our players are not educated to lump the ball, if they are not technically gifted then this is down to our training/ coaching methods. Another failure for rodgers to answer to. โ˜˜HH.


10.) 06 Oct 2018 17:18:11
TBHS

More a general view for me on Scottish football and the mentality of lump ball, row z. Why is it a CB job to clear ball, I understand under severe pressure but not when you have time. All good teams play football from the back. We try it and at European level get found out. Players not technically good enough.


11.) 06 Oct 2018 17:34:56
Hendry is NEVER A CELTIC PLAYER NEVER WILL BE end off.


 

 

25 Sep 2018 06:47:28
I find it funny that about a month ago everyone was blaming the board for our trouble, now most are having a go at BR which I understand.
Ultimately for me the blame lies squarely at the players feet, I have been saying for weeks that they are not working hard enough on the pitch. There is not enough movement which is causing this type of football we are playing at the minute. I mean you can have all the talent and skill in the world but if you don't at the very least match the guy opposite you with desire, passion, will to win and hard work you ain't winning nowt on the park. They ate highly paid professional players who should be able to sort stuff out for themselves on the park. Do they still trust BR? Do they think they are better than they are?
I'm not sure what is going on to be honest but over the season I'm sure we will find out.


1.) 25 Sep 2018 09:24:14
I am lucky I don't believe what managers say in interviews particular those taking place immediately after matches . After nearly every game esp our bad results, BR has given his remedy as we must work harder on the training pitch .
This is utter nonsense as working too hard may give the one dimensional one paced game we are currently bored through .
If Brendan would speak honestly, I hope he would say that " we I'll work smarter" and I would hope that would produce a fast clever interpassing game resulting in multi goals for us.


 

 

02 Sep 2018 14:36:46
Thought it was a great, disciplined performance team today. Kept the ball well when needed and defended well also.
Reading some stuff on social media there from some zombies I know claiming that we have to enjoy it because they are coming, deluded or what haha

Enjoy yourselves tonight lads ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ€HH.


1.) 02 Sep 2018 14:49:17
How long is that now they've been coming๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.


2.) 02 Sep 2018 16:10:53
It's been a while malky eh ๐Ÿ˜‚.


 

 

01 Sep 2018 19:03:46
Well I must apologise lads about what I said the other night about Moussa loving our great club very much ( I was convinced he did ) just shows how wrong one can be at times and makes me feel really sad the way he conducted himself.

Moving on from that now I'm glad to see young Jack being sent out to Dumbarton for game time and hopefully lots of goals, does anyone know if he can be recalled from his loan at any time as we may need him back if injuries come into play again?


1.) 01 Sep 2018 20:07:15
Royjac73. You were far from the only one that thought M D was a decent individual, we should know by now that there is no such thing, as a decent person a professional footballer .

Don't worry yourself Jack A WA loaned to a 3rd division football club, because that is exactly what he is, a Scottish 3rd division footballer . He is never going to make it at Celtic.


2.) 01 Sep 2018 20:40:01
Most of the Scots, Griff, Brown, Tierney, McGregor, Forrest all have a great affection for Celtic. Maybe one or two foreign players as well, Lustig for one but players who come in Even Paddy who talks about how great it is at Celtic will be off as soon as the big cheque book is waved under their nose. Posters need to stop confusing their love for the club with thinking players love Celtic. Bottom line is Celtic is a stepping stone to greater things. Unfortunate but true.


3.) 01 Sep 2018 20:42:39
Absolutely pathetic omc seems Iโ€™ve stayed out the whole negativity regarding our double treble winners and the manager but to slate a young footballer the way you have just done makes me wonder what you bother commenting at all Iโ€™ll be taking my seat tommorow cheering on the BHOYS, true celtic supporters are faithful through and through to all the BHOYS and ghirls youโ€™ll never walk alone hail hail Glasgowโ€™s green and white.


4.) 01 Sep 2018 21:06:52
Everytime I read something about moussa it really makes me physically sick to think I really liked him. He is a rat.


5.) 01 Sep 2018 21:15:21
How can you say that Chris? You're quick to jump on people about criticizing players yet you are about a kid. He has great potential and this loan will help him bulk up, get game time and do his confidence the world of good.


6.) 01 Sep 2018 21:37:12
Braveheart86, well said. OMC where did that comment come from?


7.) 01 Sep 2018 22:10:50
Aitchison hopefully gets a good season, another loan in the championship to see if he can step up and then maybe give him a chance.


8.) 02 Sep 2018 00:11:33
There are those who are born green and white and those like Big Jock, Tommy Gemmell, Bertie Auld, Daniel Fergus McGrain, Kenny Dalglish, Mikael Lustig and Scott Brown, etc etc, etc that grow to embrace the club, the support and all that is Celtic. God Bless them all.
Some appreciate what we have to offer and enjoy the ride, some others can't quite make the grade and we thank them for their efforts, while others use us as a stepping stone to 'better things' that very often simply never materialize and then their career goes into freefall.
The majority of us would give everything to ever have the chance to play for Celtic and those who abuse the opportunity often fade away.


9.) 02 Sep 2018 00:46:31
Aitchison may still be quite young but he has been on the edge of first team squads for quite a few years . B R new that he had a problem with one striker was likely to leave him down a striker . He still allowed the lad to step down to the 3rd division .
Now in my opinion and of course I could be wrong that isn't proper preparation for becoming Celtic striker .
It must be about 3 seasons ago since I caught sight of young Aitchison and I have followed his name since and I noticed he hasn't scored that many even playing with and against his own age group.


10.) 02 Sep 2018 01:41:57
There is nothing wrong in saying a player isnโ€™t good enough for us. Thatโ€™s life, or we would all be playing. If I can get over the fact I wasnโ€™t good enough, then I can get over anybody. Aitchison isnโ€™t good enough. To me he is at best a Dundee type player. No malice in that, itโ€™s just the truth. We need to stop getting precious about players. If theyโ€™re not good enough, there a long queue of similar, including all of us.


 

 

 

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11 Oct 2018 19:26:52
Meant to say only if signing permanently, loan deals ( especially from English clubs ) do my nut in.


 

 

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11 Oct 2018 19:02:22
Would take all 4 no problem.


 

 

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10 Oct 2018 19:30:42
To Celtic KT is priceless Brendan ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ€.


 

 

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20 Sep 2018 16:49:12
Is it possible to get wee Paddy in January on a pre-contract?


 

 

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30 Aug 2018 15:58:34
I said last week after Sudava game we are in dire need of a box to box midfielder someone who can take the ball off the defenders and won't give it away, Mulumbu could definitely be that guy for sure. I know a lot of guys are shouting for defenders, I don't think this is our biggest problem especially in Europe. I've noticed that most of the pressure we come under in European games is when either our defenders can't find a pass as our midfield are not working hard enough to find space or our midfield are getting caught in possession with their backs to goal which will always cause trouble for most teams at that level.
Whilst it may not be the most inspiring signing I do feel he is exactly the type of player we have been crying put for. This guy very rarely gives the ball away and has a fantastic engine.
Just saying like ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ€ HH.


 

 

 

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23 Oct 2018 09:37:21
Lustig has almost been at fault for every goal we have lost in Europe this season, while I love the guy and his commitment to the club I think as soon as he can be replaced he will be. I'm sure the club thought that was going to be last summer until the Italian lad agreed to come here then buggered off to Valencia at the last minute.

{Ed007's Note - Cristiano Piccini never agreed to come here and there was never any chance that he would. His agent made it abundantly clear that Piccini wanted a return to a CL team in either Spain or Italy and the player had no interest in moving to Scotland.}


 

 

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22 Oct 2018 17:55:29
I heard that BR is pissed off with Gamboa as when he first came here he buggered off to play some meaningless games with Costa Rica and missed pre-season, would explain why he only ever plays him when there really is no other alternative.


 

 

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10 Oct 2018 19:29:27
Didn't you know that whenever there has been a Celtic v Rangers semi or final that the that mob got slightly more than us every time and it was never 50/ 50 split due to the stadium design or that was the excuse they gave anyway.


 

 

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06 Oct 2018 16:49:54
I would hazard an educated guess that between transfer fees, wages and keeping guy's already in the squad BR has had way over 30million in the time he has been here. Probably more than any Celtic manager before him.
I was trying to say a few months back about this and was getting called a board sympathizer for this lol
He has had money just in my opinion some of it seems to have been not spent very well, although I'm sure he was able to get more out of the squad than he first thought.


 

 

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06 Oct 2018 11:03:26
Look I know the lad is 23 but he is untested at the level we play at and it is a steep learning curve, making mistakes is how you improve and I'm sure the lad will improve as does BR obviously. I just think a little more support instead of ridicule will help the lad. I mean look at Ajer he makes mistakes now and again gets outmuscled I'm the odd game but receives nowhere near the same level of criticism from our fans. I mean it was only a few months ago everyone was calling Boyata a bombscare and look at him now haha.