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22 Feb 2018 22:09:52
I like Rodgers however some truth needs told. People say we "don't have the money to compete"

Rodgers had the EPL money with Liverpool - he got knocked out Champs League groups, then knocked out last 32 in Europa.

Think he won like 1 European game against a bang average side. WITH EPL MONEY!

He is a modern coach who thinks every 3rd pass should go back to the goalkeeper is "progress"

Modern coaches who think long balls or physical styles are ignorant

However it's their arrogance that refuses to see we conceded like 12-15 goals from crosses and long balls because we ignorantly ignore the physical side to football.

We can't defend or score from set pieces or crosses. That is a huge factor at this level of football.

Time to stop trying to make us Barcelona and get a better balance between defence and attack.

Tesla369

1.) 23 Feb 2018 11:12:04
In the 2 games again zenit did he not stiffen the team up and was a bit more cautious, especially at home we went more root one to the mousse, and we got the ball down the sides and put good balls in we just didn't score enough we totally out muscled the Russians in the first game. We go into our shell away from home in fact a lot of them are scared to play at that level away from home.


2.) 23 Feb 2018 11:52:49
In Europe this year we conceded 25 goals. 19 of those goals came from crosses or long balls.

cultured defending that can pass but can't head or clear a ball.

76% of our goals!


3.) 23 Feb 2018 19:05:38
You must be kidding

I wouldn't say our defenders are cultured or capable of making passes.


4.) 23 Feb 2018 21:50:08
I didn't say they were Markom, I'm saying that's how they are being instructed to play.

That's what a modern coach likes. All backwards passes.

Be as well going 442 as I don't feel we have a striker suited to being lone striker. Dembele doesn't have hold up play and even Griffiths is more dangerous than him in the air.


 

 

27 Jan 2018 22:13:29
Are we are still interested in Duverne?

Tesla369

1.) 28 Jan 2018 09:52:39
Would hope so, real prospect.


 

 

14 Jan 2018 19:47:27
Read quite a few times of our scouts under John Park era getting a bit of abuse.

Not saying they were world class but I think some criticism is way over the top.

I mean these guys scout a list of players for a position and then the list gets narrowed down based on cost.

It comes down to Lawwell and co, who they are willing to spend on.

You can't blame a scout if the board pick the absolute cheapest on the list for the sake of saving an extra 2-3 million.

When Rodgers came in I felt even with new scouts we would see some targets brought in of a slightly higher quality but it seems it's just same old.

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1.) 14 Jan 2018 20:59:00
Sorry but whoever put Bangura, Balde, Ciftci, Cole or Kazim-Richards at the top of their list, based on cost or not, deserved their jotters.


2.) 14 Jan 2018 23:29:21
That's kinda the whole point in what I posted. The scouts need to create a net of players.

It's not them that puts Ciftci and co at the top of the list.

That's Lawwell and co that decide who is top of the list. For example when Lewandowski and Huntelaar were fairly unknown they were on our scouting list.

board decided the 7-8mil at the time was too much money. I know Zurawski we took instead of Lewandowski.

Is that the scouts fault? it seems to me the board never seem to get criticism for this, only get praise when books are balanced but never held accountable for some of the terrible players we wasted money on.


3.) 15 Jan 2018 00:37:04
PL and the board have been heavily criticised in recent times with regards to this exact issue. But I repeat, I don’t care what the scouts were told about cost etc. the players mentioned were nowhere near good enough for our club so they need to take their share responsibility for that. Even if Carlton Cole was at the very bottom of the list it was still too high.


4.) 15 Jan 2018 00:58:10
As I said if a scout has to look at available strikers and come up with a list of say 30 players, then it's inevitable that not every player in that list is going to be a 30 goal a season striker.

If any scout could scout that accurately they could probably manage any team in the world and win the Champions League.

As I said in lists before we had the likes of Lewandowski and Huntelaar. On the same lists would have been the likes of Zurawski and Scott McDonald.

If you had the job as Scout at Real Madrid and were told you had a transfer cap of £10mil per player, is it your fault if you don't unearth the next Ronaldo on a terrible budget?

Obviously not, a scouts a job not a miracle worker. At Celtic these £3mil caps can be effective for some players but not all and the board have failed to push the boat out for that extra 2-3 players higher up these lists to make the difference.

Again Rodgers clearly said he wanted work done early in January window, just as he said he wanted a CB at start of season and didn't get one. Leaving him with Biton at the back for the CL.

Lawwell meanwhile does an easy job, it's easy to balance the books at Celtic if you hardly spend money lol. Yet he takes ridiculous bonus for doing nothing, on top of an already ridiculous salary. I think last year he took close to £2mil.

Now that makes me sound like his biggest enemy, I'm not. Overall the scouting strategy is fine but we need to up the budget to cast a bigger net and catch bigger fish.

If he wants to take huge salary and bonus imo he has to do more than just dominate an almost dead Scottish league.


5.) 15 Jan 2018 08:58:19
Did PL really take home 2m?!? That's more than Chelsea or Liverpool's CEO salary!


6.) 15 Jan 2018 10:48:46
My point Tesla is that a scout should never put forward a name when they know for a fact the guy isn’t good enough just because he’s within budget. Being within price range shouldn’t make you a target. We need a CB and Kirk Broadfoot’s within our budget, doesn’t mean he should be anywhere near a list of players we’re scouting.


7.) 15 Jan 2018 13:16:29
JimTim - his Salary is just over £1mil with bonus but he also gets ELTIP payment for us getting into the champions league which is over 800,000

So he takes between 1.8 to 2 mil each time we make CL groups. Which for a club which supposedly posts 500k profits just at times in the past. handing out an extra million to a guy for doing his job is just a joke.

Kevbhoy, I get your point. I'm just saying that regardless of what scout we have if the board continue to play it too safe then we won't see much progression. one step forward and 2 steps back.

Doesn't matter if you have Park, Congerton or anyone else. The lists will be similar as that is what the board has asked for.


8.) 15 Jan 2018 18:45:06
100% agree Tesla369.


 

 

 

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06 Apr 2018 17:21:34
BATE Borisov - a team with mostly Belarus players and only a 13,000 capacity which they don't always fill.

in last 10 seasons have qualified 5 times for the champions league group stages. The exact same amount as us.

Yet we have a 60,000 stadium that we sell out often. We make millions more than teams like this.

Yet our own board and some of our own fans are convinced we can't do better in Europe because we don't have £500 million.

Tesla369

1.) 06 Apr 2018 17:46:01
@Tesla369 two posts from you on the rumours and banter pages, both fekin negative.
Celtic thank you for your support, NOT.


2.) 06 Apr 2018 18:37:03
Whilst negative it is a valid point.

Can’t say I follow the Belarus league, but if the points offered are true question is why can’t we do more.

On the flip side look at PSG spent close to £250m on two players yet can’t make the finals.

My view is Celtic are anchored by a mentality of we are happy to here and especially away from home look like rabbits in headlights when up against any Euro heavyweight. We do have a good standard of player many internationals but never seem to do ourselves justice on the big stage.

Celtic won’t spend the money so looking at successful teams of similar or smaller size is the best way to go, are we not copying Ajax, Porto’s formula, buy young develop then sell for profit. Repeat cycle?
It’s holding the right players for enough time to give us a chance of doing something great.

I posted before about the players that left Wanyama, Forster, Van Djik, Hooper, Lesley etc. Sold because they wanted to go but imagine them blended into the team now.


3.) 06 Apr 2018 18:51:36
Not negative at all. Realistic. The things I posted are facts. If you disagree please feel free to explain to me how the things I posted are not true?

you can't argue with facts, that's the problems. I can't even post a fact without being told I'm not being supportive.

I pay and go to and positively support Celtic every home game regardless of who is wearing the strip. Good player/ bad player

but I'm not going to come away and pretend our teams doing amazing if they aren't. Sorry if that bothers you tbh.


4.) 06 Apr 2018 18:54:14
Just a question Timalloy - The point about BATE Borisov. Do you find it an acceptable level that we are being matched by sides with a revenue similar to SPL sides?

I'm not saying we should be winning the Champions League but we should be able to be a strong Europa League side.

Looking at the quarter finals, only 2 teams are way above what we could be.


5.) 06 Apr 2018 21:26:57
Might be negative but it’s very accurate. Same can be said for those teams from countries that don’t have huge tv deals.
Our progress has less to do with money and more to do with passing accuracy and ability to make a quick pass to a colleague. Every one of our players has to take a touch before a pass, did you see zenith do that?


6.) 06 Apr 2018 21:33:33
Is this the BATE Borisov that were pumped out the CL qualifiers by Dundalk last season. To be fair i think they had a purple patch a few seasons ago when they had a few gems in their team like Hleb. Bit of a pointless post comparing our crowds to theirs. Gate money means very little when it comes to competing at that level. We probably rake in 25 million in ST sales not a lot at CL level half a squad player for Man City and the likes.


7.) 07 Apr 2018 00:24:15
Don't understand this argument at all, at all, football is a simple game, but is played by humans, no are all mixed up, and supported by people's who are even more mixed up, I just get the point of you post, do you just like spending money, I would almost nearly just about, quarantee that if Steve Clarke had been in charge instead of Ronnie, PhPh, Celtic would have done a lot better in Europe,


8.) 07 Apr 2018 22:22:15
If you take into consideration the amount of cheating Rangers 1872 did especially in tax affairs for over a decade . How the Scottish referees cheat us on an on going basis . mits no surprise that Celtic disappoint in Europe from time to time.


 

 

04 Feb 2018 02:04:46
Terrible transfer window. Rodgers saying Hendry is bought for Europe. Makes you laugh.

If Rodgers didn't talk so much rubbish at times it wouldn't be as bad.

Revolving door? revolving players of similar ability, projects in and out.

Time Lawwell and that got pulled up for dragging their heels with our progress.

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30 Jan 2018 22:48:12
Team were excellent. playing 5 in midfield allows the likes of Ntcham and Kouassi to perserve their energy a bit more and maintain which allows the whole team to maintain a good tempo

Thought Odsonne shut a lot of people up as well, guys 19 and can hardly see the difference between him and Dembele.

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1.) 30 Jan 2018 23:20:04
Tierney and broony outstanding and edouard was maybe best he's played imo rest of team were excellent.


2.) 31 Jan 2018 11:01:27
Brown cost us a goal so KT for me. A young core of players who will go from strength to strength.


 

 

27 Jan 2018 22:15:32
Positives today, thought Ntcham was excellent the first half and covered lots of ground. Think he tired in 2nd half but first half he was brilliant.

Gordon injury a perfect example of the board resting on their laurels, Should have had a younger more competitive keeper in to challenge him a long time ago.

Ajer answered his critics well today, dealt well with a few awkward situations and read the game extremely well for a 19 year old.

Likewise Dembele didn't do any better than Odsonne who has had a lot of abuse, but Dembele seems to get away with it a little more.

Tesla369

1.) 27 Jan 2018 23:05:56
Should dembele not get away with a little more? A player who scored so many goals last season and at some point will make us a massive profit . So many fans in here so negative . Staggering anyone can compare edouard to dembele . Short memories.


2.) 27 Jan 2018 23:25:49
Dembelle just needs game time to get his sharpness and confidence back, maybe now with Griff's injury he will get a few full games under his belt, .


3.) 28 Jan 2018 08:54:55
Craig Gordon getting clattered is because of the board? I know the board rightly get some stick but that's honking patter Tesla.


4.) 28 Jan 2018 10:03:52
Kevbhoy - aye that's what I said. Point is we sell Forster for over £10mil

We bring in a keeper for free who should have been retired due to injuries. (fair enough as a short term option)

then the board decide to keep him long term (even though he should have been replaced long ago)

Craig Gordon missed 2 full years due to knee injuries before he came to us. Now he has another knee injury.

In other words we kept and old goalkeeper with weak knees and getting older doesn't help that. Rather than replacing him with a better, fitter keeper the board remain with the cheap option.


5.) 28 Jan 2018 12:06:26
It was nothing to do with weak knees. It is a total different injury to the one that he had before. He was injuries after the full weight of a centre back crashed into his knee. Now I ain't a Gordon fan but this guy has helped us win trophies and all that. The manager ok'd a new contract so i don't see how that's the boards fault.


6.) 28 Jan 2018 13:09:45
That's MD first game since the 30th of December and you expect him to be in top form?


7.) 28 Jan 2018 13:38:15
Liamlarsson, you have just misread what I said. Yes Dembele does deserve slack. My point is that Edouard didn't deserve slaughtered as he's not had a consistent run in the team.

Gladly so as he isn't our player but this season Edouard has played less and scored more than Dembele.

Not critical of Dembele but some fans very harsh on Edouard.


8.) 28 Jan 2018 14:09:42
Kev83 It doesn't matter if it's not the exact same injury. Fact is he has had issues with his knees, both knees going back almost 8 years ago and isn't getting any younger.

So him injuring a knee is no surprise. Keepers get knocked like that weekly. Your chance of injury increases when your knees are weak.

The board took a gamble originally when they got him and he has done well, but in no way should he have been our main choice.


9.) 28 Jan 2018 15:31:07
Tesla's point is not it was the boards fault he got injured, rather they haven't prepared for that eventuality and even when he was playing shite we only had Dorus as back up.

That is the boards and Rogers fault.

Unless of course anybody thinks Dorus has been a good signing. If they do then god help us.


 

 

14 Sep 2016 00:45:13
Right troops, calm down. Getting hammered by Barcelona in our managers first year is no big deal.

7-0 though was well avoidable. How many people on here supported the board for not investing in the transfer window?

aye sure it won't make us great in Europe but tonight shown we are desperate for someone in the midfield who can tackle.

Biton is a man down when defending and De Vries is worse than Gordon.

Our board invested in attackers and guess what? we are scoring more goals. Basically we need more investment in other areas.

Also rodgers got his tactics wrong, 2 CMs against Barca? wow.

Tesla369

1.) 14 Sep 2016 08:46:39
Welcome back down to earth Brendan.


2.) 14 Sep 2016 09:22:39
Tesla, realistically how much would we need to spend, and don't forget we've a £5m defender sitting crocked.
Gone are the days we can maybe scrape out a draw, keep the score low against teams like Barca, realistically were a uefa cup team, not a champions league.


3.) 14 Sep 2016 09:24:24
What we need in the middle of the park is terrier type midfielder who will harass and annoy the opposition. Kind of like a Peter Grant who never stopped harassing the opposition. Also a creative midfielder who plays with his head up a pirlo type player. The end we need a big dominant center half . like a bobo balde. Then we should be sorted.


4.) 14 Sep 2016 10:37:06
Memaself - This is the same thing people say all the time and tbh it doesn't make sense.

You don't have to spend billions to get a good team, it helps aye but it's no guarantee. Look at the amount of sides who squander £200m+ and do nothing in Europe either.

Then you had the likes of Strachans side with Telfer, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor or even guys like Evander Sno and made last 16.

What I don't get is Celtic fans saying "gone are the days we can get a result without spending the same as these teams" despite the fact we have done it time and time again in the past. Short memories.

marco1888 pretty much gave the solution, we need players of different styles so we can have different tactical options for Europe. Football is like boxing in that it's about fitting attributes with styles, styles determine matches.


5.) 14 Sep 2016 10:41:46
Another Hartley or lennon in there would've helped a bit. Needed someone who can break it up n slow it down to a sprint for them. They were ****in amazing last nite.


6.) 14 Sep 2016 10:55:37
Tesla, all well and good but your examples are classic case of cognitive dissonance.


7.) 14 Sep 2016 13:06:04
I don't really think anything I've saids that contradictive.

The examples I gave were 100% true. We got to last 16 twice with Strachan and once with Lennon without spending much money at all.

Even under O'Neill we spend about £40m and gave 30-40k a week wages. This still at the time was nothing compared to what other teams in Europe spent and we made parkhead a fortress.

Football fans nowadays put too much emphasis on money, fair enough if you are spending £100m on Ronaldo but for the rest in big leagues their values are simply inflated due to the market in their league.

£35m for Andy Carroll know what I mean? it's just stretching budgets but a budget can't stretch quality.


8.) 14 Sep 2016 13:09:39
Tesla how many teams regularly make it by the group stages that don't spend a fortune?
Name one that does it every year and not just one offs?


9.) 14 Sep 2016 13:14:06
That's not what I said.


10.) 14 Sep 2016 16:15:32
Kev - clubs like Benfica, Galatasaray, CSKA Moscow, Copenhagen, Ajax or whoever the champions from this country is makes it regularly

No team makes it every single season, not even Man Utd and co so I dunno what that question is trying to achieve.

but aye, Olympiakos are right up there, making it almost every year since 2009 except one in which Panathinaikos got in. In 5 seasons out of six they got to last 16 twice and finished 3rd every other time.

No excuse for us not to be consistently at a level on par with Olympiakos, it's clear the board downgraded because the zombies died and this season they have invested minimally as the zombies are still poor. I think we will see in vestment over the next few seasons.

From what I can see the board have their eye on 10 in a row rather than Europe and fair enough but some of our fans stating we can't even get some results and might as well not be in it, while we might not win it, there is no excuse to not be at a decent level.


11.) 14 Sep 2016 17:21:29
We can all blame the board for not spending more money last summer . What we don't know is it the board's fault or is it the negative image projected by the MSSM and by the football authorities here . When do we read praise of our game in our media or by the Officiers running our game .
Can we expect 23/ 24 year olds with a good reputation as a footballer willing to play in the back water league in Scotland and probably earn less money, instead of playing in a fantastic climate in Southern Europe or the money drenched EPL .
Getting a talented player to come to Scotland is not that easy.


12.) 14 Sep 2016 21:12:15
As i pointed out though old boy their are plenty of teams in leagues not much more attractive. Like olympiakos in the greek league who consistently make it. So really there isn't an excuse.

Right now we are on par with likes of malmo and legia but we should be higher tha that without a doubt.


 

 

 

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26 Feb 2018 13:40:19
Scott McDonald, Caldwell, Robson, Hartley, McNamara, Mark Wilson, Stokes, Mulgrew, Agathe etc

all our own youth players are domestic as well.

Paul Lambert was developed at SPL clubs

sure there has been as many failures but you can count as many failures we have signed from foreign leagues also.

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23 Feb 2018 21:50:08
I didn't say they were Markom, I'm saying that's how they are being instructed to play.

That's what a modern coach likes. All backwards passes.

Be as well going 442 as I don't feel we have a striker suited to being lone striker. Dembele doesn't have hold up play and even Griffiths is more dangerous than him in the air.

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23 Feb 2018 11:52:49
In Europe this year we conceded 25 goals. 19 of those goals came from crosses or long balls.

cultured defending that can pass but can't head or clear a ball.

76% of our goals!

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02 Feb 2018 12:33:56
Old man Chris literally nobody is saying a good window = highest money spent.

if you get a Van Dijk at £2mil, Wanyama at 900k, Dembele 500k then superb!

but if you are struggling in a specific position and need real quality to take you to the next level then you MUST be willing to cast a bigger net out.

Instead our board bring in Hendry who no offence to the guy but probably isn't even better than Sviatchenko who we have let go on loan.

People are talking about a lack of progress in quality in the squad, not a lack of spending 500 mil.

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02 Feb 2018 00:14:45
I'd say we haven't done anything in Europe for about 5 seasons.

So we have basically just qualified at best. as for the rest see magicpoles post.

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09 Apr 2018 01:58:14
Really don't understand in what area Dembele is better than Griffiths.

Griffiths has better movement, quicker, better in the air, better finisher, better first touch.

Dembele this season is so static and hardly moves. Most of his goals have been penalties this year.

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09 Apr 2018 01:56:08
He has clearly been told to make the most of it. I'm sure Rodgers made such a statement near the end of last season.

We were dominating so much teams started going for our legs. Tierney very often gets targeted.

Not saying I agree with it, you say no captain there but there won't be a captain if his legs are broke either.

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06 Apr 2018 19:38:50
Rogic - has moments of world class, however they are moments and is missing quite a lot in games

Armstrong - More all round ability and can drop deeper than Rogic to help midfield. However no single ability that stands out.

Tbh I think with these tactics we need a CAM who can do both. Musonda was suppose to be the quick and fitter option for that position along with the skill. So we will see if he is up to it next season.

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06 Apr 2018 18:54:14
Just a question Timalloy - The point about BATE Borisov. Do you find it an acceptable level that we are being matched by sides with a revenue similar to SPL sides?

I'm not saying we should be winning the Champions League but we should be able to be a strong Europa League side.

Looking at the quarter finals, only 2 teams are way above what we could be.

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06 Apr 2018 18:51:36
Not negative at all. Realistic. The things I posted are facts. If you disagree please feel free to explain to me how the things I posted are not true?

you can't argue with facts, that's the problems. I can't even post a fact without being told I'm not being supportive.

I pay and go to and positively support Celtic every home game regardless of who is wearing the strip. Good player/ bad player

but I'm not going to come away and pretend our teams doing amazing if they aren't. Sorry if that bothers you tbh.

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