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15 Feb 2019 01:28:16
Same old problems. We literally have it wrong from top to bottom.

1. Someone said earlier we need to decrease costs. This squad clearly needs more investment, serious investment. Not projects, otherwise we would be as well not taking part in Europe.

2. Rodgers style, possession is based on dominating a team. That's ok when you have better players than the opposition.

We don't and therefore we are throwing games in Europe.

3. The players don't have the quality or mentality. Some are too young and naive. Others past it. No between.

4. We have regressed in quality and by choice, not necessity. Our revenue has been higher than Valencia recently. Yet we persist on acting like a pub team.

Many seem happy with that and now we are merely a domestic level side at best.


1.) 15 Feb 2019 10:11:04
The board clearly don't trust Rodgers with signings imo as look at guys like commper, Hayes, Hendry, eboue, Gamboa etc etc they are all crap. Serious money has been wasted on these players and dermot will never back any manager enough to make a difference in Europe. Celtic just a stepping stone selling club now that's the sad reality.

2.) 15 Feb 2019 12:11:55
We do need a cull in the playing staff and better quality brought in more so in defence sadly apart from KT we need a full defence because no investment there in the past what 3 years? . The system we use not working in Europe and don't seem to change it. But apart from the stupidest of mistakes by some of the players constantly same ones I thought we held our own and on another day it could have been different just stop the stupid passing and predictable passing.

3.) 15 Feb 2019 12:40:25
Rodgers signings may been poor but really we have been signing duds for years before Rodgers.

The structure at the club is wrong.

Tyson hit the nail on the head. It's a harsh reality that we have chosen this way as a club.

I'd like to see us blend between Rodgers style with a physical style. Find a medium between the both.

4.) 15 Feb 2019 12:42:43
I got plenty of abuse for being "negative" on here, when I was simply being honest and realistic.

But I was unfortunately proven right last night. I don't even want to criticise players individually it's not their fault we recruit projects for that level.

We are below the level we could be at and it's by the boards choice. We have it too easy domestically.

Sooner 10 in a row is done and dusted the better. That's all they can hide behind now.

5.) 15 Feb 2019 14:46:46
I’ve got one thing to say to all of the above posts, ‘pish’.

6.) 15 Feb 2019 14:59:56
Again tesla, we’ll done on ‘being right’.

Must give you a fuzzy glow inside predicting all this blatantly inevitable scenarios.


7.) 15 Feb 2019 15:32:50
I am right though.

Are any of you two above suggesting we are heading in the right direction to improve as a club?

Is the level Celtic is at now acceptable to you?

If so fair enough, but for me I'd demand better

Accepting mediocrity at a club this size is ridiculous to me.

If we want to be a domestic side only we could do it spending half the money we do now.

Have a starting eleven of the best SPL and youth players and we could win the SPL.

8.) 15 Feb 2019 17:12:04
The reality is things have changed. Scottish football is not highly regarded in and out of Scotland. It's not entirely the board or BRs fault so reality check is needed. Until we as a nation start promoting the best our game had to offer instead of just taking sky peanut money and talking down our game club and national level things won't change. We should be applauding the direction we have taken in bringing in the best young talent we can attract whom otherwise we would never see. This is the reality, we are better than last night and we have all witnessed this. I don't think after one game against champions league level opponents with bags of experience and a newly signed £40 million pound striker is a rationale comparison. We can and will do better as much as I am dissapointed with last night it's not the time to throw toys out the pram. This team beat Man U twice this season.

9.) 15 Feb 2019 18:53:02
Yes Telsa you are right. A right ****.

10.) 15 Feb 2019 20:30:27
Excellent mark. That's the input from all the happy clappers.

No input other than insults. Nothing worthy to add.

Because to even attempt to defend not even the result but the performance last night would be futile.

It's not good enough. We have got gradually worse since Rodgers came in.

We are on a decline and need better. People like you do nothing but insult me for stating facts and not being green tinted specs about everything.

Last night was terrible and not even a surprise yet another tame performance in Europe. One of many over the last 4 or 5 seasons.

11.) 16 Feb 2019 00:31:48
You are forgetting we have had a lot of bad luck with injuries this season Tesla. That team that played Valencia would not have been our best 11 players if luck and circumstances had gone our way. The January signings/ loanees have just been asked to step up to the plate for a big game in Europe which might not have happened if our treatment rooms hadn’t been so busy this season.

12.) 16 Feb 2019 00:37:22
Good shout Kwaj. As I’ve said before, we need to stop subscribing to SKY and BT as this only helps to widen the gap between us and Europe’s elite.

13.) 16 Feb 2019 01:43:47
Ok cowbig you are right and the rest of us are all wrong then? ok then defend the signings of hendry, Hayes, gamboa, Marvin, eboue and musonda etc etc as you are the fountain of knowledge on all things Celtic tell us why we are wrong then?

14.) 16 Feb 2019 11:07:26
Gedceltic even with our best starting 11 I don't think we would beat Valencia.

Again though it doesn't change what I say, if our backup players are so bad we require emergency loans in January cos of injuries

Then it shows our squad depth is huge but empty of talent.

We have had to rotate the squad due to how many games we play and lots of times even domestically we have dropped points doing this.

Proving we need to get our finger out and improve the squad.

15.) 16 Feb 2019 14:35:04
Find it difficultto see how we are going backwards under Rodgers considering wehave an unprecedented double treble (possible trebletreble) and an invincible season. Allo of which was achieved after the mighty rangers came back to the spfl and not before. Yes in Europe we have progressed further on occasion but when you consider that we now have an extra preliminary round to negotiate and the difficulty to attract good seasoned professionals to Scotland it is understandable. We can attract young good so called projects on loan to be developped which is to their advantage and ours (short term) and then developping our own youth as it is clear to see tat some of our better players have come throuth our youth system.
Whilst it is difficult to admit I don't believe Celtic will ever achieve its full potential, considering the size of club it is, whilst its domestic football is Scotland solets just enjoy our domestic dominance because without that we wouldn't even be talking aout european football.

16.) 16 Feb 2019 15:09:45
Donjim it's the style as well. In Scotland playing possession is perfect because we have better players than anyone else

In Europe we don't but still try to play attacking even against PSG or whatever. It's ridiculous as we have a weak squad compared to them.

That's like st. Mirren trying to attack us or dominate possession

As for rangers, they may technically be back, however it's no exactly true as they aren't close to the level they once where.

If they were we would have lost the league last season and currently be second this year based on average PTS back in the day.

So even domestically the full story isn't clear.

17.) 16 Feb 2019 18:48:05
I still think BR is the man for the job but I also think we have massively under invested in defence we could probably make a full team out of the amount of midfielders we have on our books and the loan signings good players but to many don't know if any of that is Brendan fault but we do need better quality for Europe never now going to win it but I think we could or should be aiming for last 16 CL or quarter final in Europa on a regular basis.



05 Feb 2019 16:21:50
Bayo left out of the European squad.

As I said, told you so ladies :p

Pretty much suggests he is another project though

The loan signings will be good for 6 months but summer is going to be vital the board pull their finger out.

Castagne going from 6mil to 9mil I kinda agreed it was right to reject.

However keeping an eye on him in Serie A and the damage he's doing from right back id say 9mil could be a bargain.


1.) 05 Feb 2019 16:55:38
Aye, you told us. So did Sutton and about 250000 others. It was a no brainer.

But we’ll done l, mate. You showed us.

2.) 05 Feb 2019 17:39:18
I knew someone would bite. Well done. You have won the gullible award of the season.

3.) 05 Feb 2019 19:09:46
Are you supercooper I’m disguise?

4.) 06 Feb 2019 11:38:21
I'm your old primary school teacher and the word you were looking for is *in.

5.) 06 Feb 2019 12:30:22
Our future number 10! and Celtic captain, young Tim, Timmy Timalloy Weir is similar in style to one of our former very own, legends! none other than, King, King Henrik, King Henrik Larssen! I truly believe that our scouting and our legendary manager, none other than the great and not yet late, Mr Sir Brendinium Eamon O'Rodgers will bring us 10 in a row!

Hats off to Mr Pete, Peetsie, Peter Lawwell for bringing Tim Weir and "Good fun on the Bayo" to our glorious club

Hail Hail!

The Celts are here!

6.) 06 Feb 2019 13:00:17
rubbish patter Tesla you sound like you're still at school.

7.) 06 Feb 2019 13:02:41
haha brilliant.

8.) 06 Feb 2019 13:20:33
Oh I've caught another fish. I'm casting wider nets than our transfer policy here.

9.) 06 Feb 2019 15:58:25
and when we have won 10 you'll still be fishing and be careful and don't worry about us having a couple of six month loans as if I was youI'd be more worries about the loan sharks circling at ibrox.

10.) 07 Feb 2019 00:36:50
Lol donjim I'm no zombie. ST holder and attend all home games.

Side note - I don't leave 20 mins before full time either.

10 in a row will be good to wind them up to the maximum, but in reality it should be easy.

Our competition died years ago and if it became close run again it would be through our own mistakes before it will be their qualities.

11.) 07 Feb 2019 12:56:17
Point taken and indeed this time I agree with you. I also apologise if several of your posts laid me to believe you were of the blue persuasion. I disagree with the spend, spend, spend mentality as it caused the demise of Rangers and I don't believe world class players want to come to Scotland as people like Larsson are an anomaly rather than the norm.

12.) 07 Feb 2019 18:07:30
Thing is donjim spending didn't cause the people demise.

They spent tax money that wasn't theirs to spend and owed a lump sum. That's theft.

If we have £50 mil in bank and spend £20. It means we are still millions in profit

People have a lot of fear cos they died but it's 2 totally different things.

Nobody expects world class players but we could certainly attract better than we have in recent years.

The frustration is settling to be just better than rangers which was fair enough when they had class sides

But they are nothing now so we should be aiming to become a decent European side.

No saying to win or reach finals but to be a respectable side at that level which in recent times we have been a bit embarrassing to be honest, truth be told.

Saying anything negative angers Celtic fans though even if it's true hahaha.



14 Jan 2019 23:18:25
Rodgers says he'd be happy if Boyata stayed till the end of the season.

Guy refused to play for us and refuses to discuss a contract despite being a below par defender against any decent opposition.

I just think of great managers like Alex Ferguson and wonder if they would put up with that kind of behaviour.

Imo Boyata shouldn't have played for us again after Summer fiasco. Now he definitely should not wear our jersey again.


1.) 15 Jan 2019 01:04:31
You do know that’s Celtic saying no CB coming in in January defo.

2.) 15 Jan 2019 07:28:58
After the summer shambles with boyata I was dead against him playing for us again, however in the main since then he’s been superb ( outwith that Ibrox game where everyone of them except McGregor was rotten) . That said, it really needs addressed this window, he either signs a deal or we need to replace him. If we can’t get a replacement in then for me he has to drop out and Ajer/ jozo takes his place till we get another centre half in. We can’t continue to play him if brendan knows he’s definitely going to leave. What message does that send to Ajer/ jozo?

3.) 15 Jan 2019 08:54:27
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

We always work like that. We don't act until we need to as oppose to being prepared in advance.

Same when we never spent until we "knew our champions League fate"

Then qualified and have short time to spend. Fail to buy and then get the "we tried" excuse.

4.) 15 Jan 2019 10:50:48
Difference is Alex Ferguson had the backing to build a squad of quality depth, whereas in terms of CB position we do not have that. He is one of our best CB and untill we get replacement he should be playing if we want to win.

Im of same opinion he should never of played again, but we have no choice unless we get replacement.

Personally i think if he wound his neck in, respected club and fans by playing then i think he would of got his transfer this window. His agents actions storming into Lennoxtown was disgraceful and i wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers and Lawwell are happy to run down his contract by keeping him to end of season as a GIRFUY.

5.) 15 Jan 2019 11:08:24
He’s a rat get rid.

6.) 15 Jan 2019 11:49:50
I'd rather he left now for nothing than keep playing a player that doesn't want to be here. We would get a couple of million the now anyway so get him out and get someone in who wants to play for us.

7.) 15 Jan 2019 19:51:23
Bloody Boyata, out of order, we have paid him handsomely and now get zero sell on, doesn't deserve to wear our shirt, absolute clown if true.



14 Jan 2019 23:05:06
Latest rumour is Porto want to offer £14mil plus Mbemba for Ntcham.

I think this is a fair deal.

Ntcham has great ability but he would suit Portos style of play much more naturally than ours.


1.) 14 Jan 2019 23:16:45
Fair? This would be an incredible deal if true. Take it and run for the hills. Can just imagine PL's face when that one comes through.

2.) 14 Jan 2019 23:21:03
I say fair because I can't see it being £14 and Mbemba.

Possibly a deal valued at £14 million.

Like them valuing Mbemba as worth £7mil within the deal and adding £7mil on top of that cash to make a deal worth £14mil

However you never know, seen some similar deals in past and they are desperate for Ntcham supposedly. Him signing a long term deal means they need to pull something special out to get him sooner.

3.) 14 Jan 2019 23:26:01
That would be a great deal.

4.) 14 Jan 2019 23:47:29
I'd take £1.4 million.

5.) 15 Jan 2019 00:05:57
Is Mbemba a CB?

6.) 15 Jan 2019 00:16:41
Wasn't we linked with Mbemba last summer when he as at Newcastle? Can't see us getting £14m and him but I'd take the £14m alone and invest it in areas we need strengthening.

7.) 15 Jan 2019 09:12:39
There's no chance that mbemba will be any good, why would Porto want rid of him so quickly? Who would replace Ntcham if you let him go?
I would ask for more, Porto have the money, and in this inflated market we would get 18-20, buy benkovic outright and get some players cheap from the Eastern European leagues that we can sell on in the future, I've been checking midfielders with good attributes
AMC Tsonev 23 FC Beroe G7 A7
MC Travnik 24 FK Jabloneka G8 A7
AMC Mitrita 23 CSU Craiova G12 A4
We could probably get all 3 for 7 million and would make a great profit on them
And I'm sure there's plenty CBs cheap over there as well.



15 Aug 2018 20:43:00
just lost £40 million in order to save £5-10 million needed on a couple of defenders.

Sloppy goals, weak in the air.

people said "no point in spending, not going to help us beat PSG"

aye but we would probably beat AEK and earn some money.

no doubt the likes of Dembele, Ntcham and Boyata will be sold to cover this mess.

It sets us back about 2 years, thanks to the board for not backing Rodgers.

Even Rodgers himself though needs to look at his style of play, his record in Europe for Celtic and Liverpool is terrible.

but the board have thrown him under the bus with this one and he knew it before the game kicked off.


1.) 15 Aug 2018 21:30:16
BR has brought 17 players in for £25 million, you would think at least 2 of them would have been quality defenders.

2.) 15 Aug 2018 22:01:31
At the end of the day when our team is compared to AEK's on paper we should be expected to beat them over 2 legs. The manager had enough at his dispossal to win the tie, he didn't. I think Rodgers is trying to deflect the blame and was covering his own arse before a ball was kicked in this tie. If we go back to his first season we played the ball from the back with confidence and played the high press effectively in games. Where has this style of play disappeared to? We have no identity on the pitch anymore. In my opinion complacency has well and truly set in with the team. Rodgers has tinkered with formations and line ups over the last year, his signings have been poor and it has cost us I terms of dropping points in the league last year and obviously not qualifying for CL football this year. We have went backwards since the invincibles season. Our squad is now weaker than it has been in the last 2 years. Time for the board to give us a few quality players and the manager to get his finger out and reinstill the confidence, desire and hunger back into this team. If that happens we will stroll it domestically and could have a decent go at the Europa league.

3.) 16 Aug 2018 09:34:12
Jonbhoy to say 17 players for £25 million is showing you the type of players were having to look for that's under £2 million per player on average. Take away edouards 9 million and it's less than £1 million per player.

I take it your getting the quote from commons in the paper I believe it's actually closer to £22 million in total. We ain't paying for quality just quantity most of the time.

4.) 16 Aug 2018 11:19:58
It’s not £40m unless the TV pot of £13.5m we got last year has been removed. Plus the £11m CL ticket packages goes to charity. It’s nearer £65m, not £40m.

That’s the scale of this ballsup we all knew was a distinct possibility, with a defence that couldn’t keep weans oot a Close.

A complete lack of urgency to fix the Achilles heel cost us. That’s totally unnacceptable. I mean it’s not as if us having a poor defence in relation to European games was in dispute. Even if we splashed £20m on defenders of quality we would be £40m up and have good players we would also sell on for a profit. All gone thanks to complacency and hope. A deadly duo of situations that never, ever ends well. I hope the penny has dropped, I can’t say I am convinced as Lepoards rarely change their spots.

A critical time now, over to you Peter, if you’re not too busy making advertising deals. There’s a good lad.

5.) 16 Aug 2018 13:18:02
Who says if we spent £20m on 2 defenders we would have qualified? Might have had a better chance but there would be no guarantees.

6.) 16 Aug 2018 15:00:40
spot on 4leaf. The £25 million thing is definitely being exaggerated due to Eddies fee.

add to that many players signed like Dembele or Ntcham were scouted before Rodgers came in or signed through the man city mark lawwell connection.

most of rodgers signings have mainly been for backup.

and when the board has spent that little extra it's made the difference, guys like Dembele, Ntcham, Eddie who all have higher value are a step above the rest.

just need to do that with some defenders but sadly i see more sales rather than buys ahead.

7.) 16 Aug 2018 18:35:51
the only guarantee I have witnessed throughought my life as a Celtic fan is when we don’t fix major problem areas we get fecked. These last few weeks are a continued validation of that. Would it have guaranteed success, no, but not doing anything I think guaranteed we would feck up and that defensive part of the team delivered.

So we never try to buy better players because we can’t guarantee it will make us better?

We need to give it a go.

8.) 16 Aug 2018 21:24:07
Some seem to be stupid to think P L decides on the budget and who the money is spent on. The Board decides the budget and B R decides who the money is spent on .
As recently as last February BR took the unusual decision at Celtic because he was so pleased with his bosses . He thanked the Board, D D and P L for getting all his targets everyone he wanted .
I am sure the Board were pleased with that, I am sure what disappointed the Board and has caused them reason for long debate, that Brendan's thanks are now fallen on barren ground, with his complete turn round to criticism and a look at the team against AEK only one of the list of players B R was so grateful for was playing Hendry.




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Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Transfer policy 2. Shows that by playing it too safe we are hurting ourselves both on and off the pitch. We need to spread the net further.


1.) 13 Mar 2019 15:08:14
Several of they teams don't have the work permit issues we have and can spread the net wider because of that.

2.) 13 Mar 2019 15:14:31
If our spend is so low in comparison
to transfer fees surely our wages should be nowhere near most of these. Or is the problem we are stockpiling players who never get a game.

{Ed007's Note - That is a big part of it but we do have a lot more non-footballing staff than most of those clubs mentioned and come next year Rodgers significant salary along with Davies and Toure will be off the bill. Lennon, Kennedy and Duff would probably cost less than Rodgers alone did.
Basically we've shaved £3+ million off the wage bill and the compensation from Leicester (£7-9 million depending who you ask/believe) is sitting in the bank.}

3.) 13 Mar 2019 17:37:57
I think for the above reason, the Board will hope NL wins both remaining trophies and can be offered the job.
It was a great experience having such a high profile boss and the domestic legacy he leaves behind may never be equaled/ surpassed.
However, we have amassed a real surplus of 'nearly men', generated the highest running costs ever before and seem to have no better chance of European progress than with WGS and NL's last 16 CL?
The non qualification for this years CL probably cost us Dembele, on top of the cash we lost-out; so the need for continuity and some stability before the CL quals may also be a factor?

4.) 13 Mar 2019 19:20:23
For me that legacy is the need to sign a back four, winger and striker to stay still. Oh aye and those memorable CL nights.

5.) 14 Mar 2019 13:02:31
Daviebhoy We employ a manager to get the best out of our existing squad and bring in players to help to fill in the gaps . . If we discard our whole back four and bring in replacements for all, it will inevitably take time to gel . Next season we will probably have Ralston, Ayer, Jojo and Tierney . We will have back up amongst younger players and Briton.



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28 Feb 2019 12:00:37
Strange double standards going about.

Like if a manager uses us as a stepping stone to England it's a problem.

Yet at the same time people are happy for us to be a selling club. In which players sign with the sole purpose of getting sold down south or abroad.

In that case van dijk is Judas. Armstrong, forster, wanyama, Dembele etc are all Judas? Why didn't they all stay for 10 in a row?

That's what football is now half the players who play for us don't give one monkeys about us.

If you want a Celtic manager and commited players for long term then we would have 11 Scottish players with the odd guy like Izzy who take to the club.

Harsh reality of modern football.


1.) 28 Feb 2019 12:14:54
The main difference being that those players never sold the fans and club a lie. They also left in transfer windows allowing us to get replacements. They didn’t tell us it was their dream job, we expected them all to leave.

Players are much more easily replaceable, a manager is responsible for the whole team not just one position on the park and he not only left us at a crucial stage in the season but tried to leave us without a single member of coaching staff.

Surely you can see the difference.
Other managers have managed to see out the season in much worse situations, Rodgers recent comments trying to imply the board weren’t backing him was him obviously planning his exit thinking he could escape without blame.

Very different situations.

2.) 28 Feb 2019 12:17:35
Yip, agreed.
Some fans expect all players to be as passionate about the team as they are. It doesn't happen often. Players and managers are paid to be involved, fans pay to be involved. Massive difference.
I can accept Rodgers desire to move on and challenge himself but I'm very disappointed in how fast he did it. HH.

3.) 28 Feb 2019 12:26:39
It's the timing he basically left us in the lurch at a very important part of the season the business end and was for taking our whole backroom team and left us with no management.

4.) 28 Feb 2019 12:58:28
Moving on elsewhere isn't really a problem for me. But leaving a side when you've got a title to win? I'm lost for words still.

5.) 28 Feb 2019 13:31:51
There’s absolutely no doubt about it, it was the timing of Rodgers departure that was the issue. An 8 point lead with 11 games left it was by no means a fore gone conclusion and a tough Scottish Cup QF ahead the timing was disgraceful. If he’d decided to call it a day at the end of the season I’m sure the majority of us fans would have thanked him for all he achieved with us and wished him well. But I have to admit I agree with the GB banner. He deserted us at the most crucial point in the season. I’m grateful the we have Lenny at the helm now for the rest of the season.

6.) 28 Feb 2019 13:54:46
Tesla is tolling . No Celtic supporter could condone a manager leaving with yet another SPL to be won with only 11 games left .
As far as selling club is concerned, I think every club in these islands is a selling club, in so far if a bigger club comes in for a star player, any club will sell.

7.) 28 Feb 2019 14:47:49
Tesla its not the fact he left, its the fact that he has been lying to the fans for almost 3 years. more and more stories that his little anecdotes are all bullsh*t - Danny McGrain etc
For someone who is so clever if he had stayed to the end of the season and left because the board didn't match his ambitions then the board would have copped the flack, instead he has been found out for what he is, only interested in himself.
As stated above, GB banner said it all for me and probably 99% of fans. the king is dead, long live King LENNY. he is now forgotten!

8.) 28 Feb 2019 15:51:55
LMAO yeah Rodgers full of integrity. If we had bet Valencia he would of still been here untill we got knocked out.

Fact of matter is he was willing to take our whole backroom team at a crucial point in league and right before Hearts away game. Nothing but a rat in my eyes.

Also I am convinced us getting benkovic on loan was tied into Rodgers already agreeing to take Leicester job back in September.

Let's move on. He's gone and in the past. Hope Lennon does well and is offered job permanently. We need stability.



16 Feb 2019 08:51:25
Looking at our starting XI against Valencia. Ask which players you see as long term solutions in their positions

Bain - No
Toljan - No
Boyata -No
Simunovic - No
Izzy - No
Brown - No
McGregor - Yes
Christie - Potential, yes
Forrest - Yes
Sinclair - Yes
Burke - Not our player

Bench or injured key guys
Benkovic - not our player
Tierney - Yes
Lustig - No
Eddie - Yes but needs big improvements
Gordon - No
Ajer - potential
Ntcham - Yes

So really you see the huge rebuilding task we have here. Cos even the players who are part of future, many are still very much learning.

Only about 3 or 4 players would you say are ready

Even then their is inconsistencies like Sinclair when his confidence drops

Forrest can be hot and cold

Ntcham similar to Forrest.

Having better players around these guys will bring their game on and help the young ones develop.

Raise the standard, push the bar higher and it helps us develop better projects also.


1.) 16 Feb 2019 12:25:50
Toljan has chance of staying, if not we sign someone else.

Yes we need 1-2 CBs but rest of the team is more than good enough to dominate domestically for the forseable future.

2.) 16 Feb 2019 14:14:07
Domestically we could sign nobody and dominate.

We should be aiming higher than domestic.

3.) 16 Feb 2019 14:29:48
Tesla can I ask what Bain has done wrong for you to consider him not a long term answer?

4.) 16 Feb 2019 15:16:43
I think Bain has done ok, I just think we can get better that's all.

5.) 16 Feb 2019 15:46:26
Tesla plays too much Fifa on his PlayStation, in his fantasy world he thinks we should be spending 10's of millions on transfer fees and adding another 20 million to our 60 million wage bill.

6.) 16 Feb 2019 16:02:37
Literally said none of that Stevie.

Unless u are suggesting Bain is the absolute best keeper we can attract?

7.) 16 Feb 2019 17:41:09
Have to say tesla369 l think you are a bit harsh on Bain and toljan who has only played 3 games or so.

Yes a lot of the players struggle at that level but Celtic have tried to sign players but they went elsewhere. And secondly where is the money going to come from to replace the players that need to be replaced to compete at that level.

It's mainly loan players as the costs are too high for Celtic to compete with wages and transfer fees. Remember the club record transfer is 9 million. They brought on a sub who Was 40 million. The problem with times gone by is that those league have more and more money with tv etc now and celtic simply can't compete financially with them which unfortunately is reflected on the pitch.

8.) 16 Feb 2019 18:16:04
They also had a worse revenue than us over the last few years

We are also owned by billionaires. One even twice as rich as Desmond amongst the shareholders.

Difference is that some people's owners want to back their club, while ours just want to earn from it.

Don't give one F about their £40 mil midfielder, they are not a world class side and neither were Zenit.

BATE have spent £11 mil their entire history and beat Arsenal.

Our attitude is totally defeatist. "We can't compete. " Well don't bother turning up then.

The mentality of our fans is as soft as the mentality of our players.

Bertie Auld in tunnel against inter who we were told we didn't have a chance again

You think he was sitting thinking oh we can't compete here?

Old school boys went out and got tore in. Now it's just sitting talking about price tags. Who cares, sick hearing excuses at not being able to play a 5 yard pass.

9.) 16 Feb 2019 18:56:12
I would keep Bain he is a good Goalkeeper can only remember one mistake in the last game thankfully didn't cost us a goal.

10.) 16 Feb 2019 19:09:44
I think some people are only happy when they re complaining, the ones that always see the glass half empty and then they are really happy when we get beat as it justifies their opinion. I think psychology also says that if you tell somebody often enough that he is crap he will start to believe it.

11.) 16 Feb 2019 19:41:50
It's not about that donjim. It's about truth.

The truth is we are happy to do the bare minimum for domestic success.

Our board have decided to make no attempt to compete in Europe.

Could we afford better players? Yes

We don't bring them in because we don't need to and some people are happy with that.

Some people are literally saying we can't do Europe so why bother investing. Our own fans literally settling for being better than the rest of a deadwood league.

12.) 16 Feb 2019 22:02:43
Seems like you would rather have a foreign goalkeeper for a few million instead of a guy who has been really good up until now.
IMO will only get better!

If we sort out our defence which is the area in most need of improvement Bain could be a top class keeper for us.

13.) 16 Feb 2019 23:20:46
agree that we should have better than bain (a free agent from dundee or hibs i think) as our number 1, tge boy has done relatively well but think that is a lot to do with being good with the ball at his feet, fir me he is too small for a keeper, but would be happy with him as 2nd or 3rd keeper.

14.) 17 Feb 2019 00:11:36
Ginn I've never criticised Bain just saying he's 27 and until us the best team he succeeded at was Dundee.

He can do an ok job the same as Hartley, Robson and co done.

However I just feel we can scout and attract better. I rate him highly as our 2nd choice.

I'm happy for him to be number one though but I'm just asking if he is the absolute best we can get?

That's different from being happy with it.

Football is cut throat or should be and if we can get better then he (and everyone else) should be replaced if we get better in.

15.) 17 Feb 2019 11:56:25
Tesla you can't just bin players when they fall out of favour and get new ones in at the drop of a hat, these guys are on contracts that need to be payed. We would have a squad of about 80 and a 150 million pound wage bill if it was down to you.

16.) 18 Feb 2019 10:17:15
Actually that's not even true. We have a huge wage bill because we sign huge numbers of cheap players

Many don't work out and are left doing nothing for a few years. Likes of Allan and co.

Another fault of our policy. We spend £60 mil a year on players and staff. Obviously most of that is player wages

We can afford to give a smaller squad of players between 30-50k a week each for that cash if you do the maths.

Instead we have the likes of Hendry on 10k but lots of others on similar paid for nothing.

Financially we would be the exact same bringing in higher quality as a smaller squad.



26 Jan 2019 10:01:34
Boyata is 28 years old and played 180 professional games

Tierney is 21 and played 160 professional games.

Boyata wasted his potential in reserve football collecting a wage.

There seems to be a myth he's our best defender but most big games he let us down.

Some see abilities in him but at 28 he still feels like a project and when Rodgers came in he actually was a project to be worked on.

At his age it's not acceptable and he's been caught out with stupid mistakes too often.


1.) 26 Jan 2019 10:49:33
Cracking post wee can do better than boyata games where under pressure he let's us down far too many times his stupid mistakes are more often costly.

2.) 26 Jan 2019 11:11:09
I would really like to see us replace Boyata with the Bosnian guy from Groningen, he is out of contract in summer so just go get him tied up Celtic.

3.) 26 Jan 2019 11:30:57
Royjac . Is the groningen bhoy any good . looks a bit of a carthorse . only seen him once though 😁.

4.) 26 Jan 2019 11:33:11
There’s no way we should be in the position we’re in regarding boyata. He’s not the worst defender we’ve ever had but he’s certainly not the best either and as a club we made a right pigs ear of the boyata situation in the summer. We should’ve taken the £9 million from Fulham and moved on. There’s no way boyata and his agent should’ve gotten away with they’re behaviour. Put it this way, when dembele pissed brendan off he was out the door with his feet not touching the floor. That same thing should’ve happened to boyata. No one player is bigger than our club and if he’s doesn’t want to be here then he should be shown the door. What message does it send to jozo and Ajer if boyata plays till the summer then goes for free?

5.) 26 Jan 2019 11:51:29
Jeffery Brumma would be the perfect replacement for Boyata and maybe, maybe Memcsivic. A proper left footer like McKenna would make more sense as he is a proper defender who does not get pushed off the ball and at 6'6" he is tall and imposing. I have seen posts about his pace but with Brumma beside him a definate possible regular defence.

6.) 26 Jan 2019 13:00:02
You forgot to say Boyata is a rat.

7.) 26 Jan 2019 14:21:37
Memesevic looks a beast kind of how Jozo looked in his pomp for us no nonsense kind of CB. Need one like that and another solid CB that can play the ball out like Benkovic.

8.) 26 Jan 2019 14:19:37
Bruma and Memesevic would be class👍.

9.) 26 Jan 2019 15:53:03
McKenna is pish. Ajer and Jozo better than him.

10.) 26 Jan 2019 21:54:26
I think anyone who calls any current Celtic player a rat, needs to look in the mirror and one thing he won't see is a Celtic supporter.




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05 Apr 2019 18:58:16
This is part of the issue Davie. We won a stupid fan award in 2003 or something and since then our fanbase has became this self important entity obsessed about our precious wee image to outsiders.

It's actually demeaning to ourselves to base so much on what others think about us.

We create great atmospheres by supporting our players who wear the hoops, not just so high reputation players can praise us lol.


{Ed007's Note - I always feel it's a sanctimonious pat on the head when players come out with that tosh and don't get me started on the likes of Iniesta being applauded off the park. I really couldn't give a toss what outsiders think of us and yet it seems to consume so many members of our support.}



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04 Apr 2019 10:02:15
Ranieri is at Roma.




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03 Apr 2019 14:49:00
I think it's the opposite Chris. I think once it was dealt with internally we were fed stories about injuries and misunderstandings.

It was clear he refused to play. Even after the incident him and his agent openly criticised Lawwell and made clear he won't sign a new deal.

He should have been dropped there and then.




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02 Apr 2019 01:26:30
What happened at the start of the season was a disgrace from him.

That aside he's not even a great defender. He doesn't like pressure games and was skint again at the weekend.

Just like the 2 howlers he gave away when we beat zombies 3-2 at Ibrox.

I'm looking forward to new defenders coming in.




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27 Mar 2019 13:39:56
Benitez hasn't won many leagues but he's not been in many jobs you would expect him too.

Valencia won them la Liga

Liverpool won everything except league but Ferguson was about at the time. One of the best managers ever.

Napoli he won their first cups in years and left them in a stronger position

Inter he didn't last but again Juventus has dominated that league for years

Real Madrid he didn't last but Barcelona have dominated higher profile managers than him there. They did go on and win the champions league.

Newcastle financially messed about for years. Gets them immediately back to the EPL and looks safe this year with a pretty poor squad.

Point being he's very rarely been in jobs you would expect him to dominate games except the real Madrid job. One of the most unforgiving jobs in football.





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18 Apr 2019 12:59:12
My main point was never about when Ajax were going cheap

My main point is that anything Ajax can afford to do then so can we.

Our board are keeping us under with their useless method. Unambitious and too safe.

You just keep going on about when Ajax went cheap even though it's not the main issue.

In the last 3-4 seasons they have raised the bar in investing in their squad and it's proven to work.

So why shouldn't we? When we can afford to do so?

Simply because people are happy to settle with just being better than rangers.


{Ed007's Note - This is mind-boggling stuff! The entire conversation is about the money Ajax spent last summer, their comparable income to ours and you saying they had gone cheap and now they're not of course I'm going on about, that's because I want to know what you meant, it's not a difficult question is it? What did they go cheap on? These figures are only rough but in the ball park:

Season 18/19 45 million
Season 17/18 26 million
Season 16/17 32 million
Season 15/16 22 million

That's £125 million spent on their squad over the last four years and that's got them to a EL final and now a CL Semi. That roughly works out at us qualifying for the CL every year and spunking our entire earnings from it on transfer fees alone, and that's without taking into account all the other costs involved in transfers like taxes, agent fees etc etc.
Now if you had said "Our board are keeping us under with their useless method. Unambitious and too safe." I'd have totally agreed with you 100%, it's the comparison to Ajax simply because we have roughly the same income etc that's a nonsense. It would take us years and millions of pounds to get to where they are now behind the scenes - then when we do get there we'd find they'd also moved forward.
As I said earlier, there's fans that think every penny we get in should be spent on transfers whereas I believe we should invest more than we do in our scouting, coaches, Lennoxtown & our academy etc and producing more players like KT, McGregor and now Forrest. Then any money we spend can be on having 3/4 players who can take the team to the next level, Celtic do spend money - maybe not enough as we'd all like - but we haven't spent it wisely enough imo.
Basically it looks like all you're saying is Ajax spent more money than us on transfers last summer and that you want to have a pop at the board because of it.}



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18 Apr 2019 00:47:29
Ed you have totally went out your way to skew what I've been saying.

Ajax make similar revenue. Some years we have made more.

Anything they do, we can afford to replicate. Simple as that.

Doesn't matter if it's youth set ups or signings. We can afford to do it and don't.

The fact we haven't is down to the board. The opinions of fans being shortsighted is totally irrelevant as boards don't sign off on things based on a punters moaning.

Simple as that. More desperate deflection from people who can't accept the fact we are choosing to be a smaller club than we are.


{Ed007's Note - I didn't skew your words, you're not making any sense any more. Didn't you write:

"Ajax were going cheap and changed it up, now they are in the semis."

Even though they were in the EL Final 2 years ago or is that too recent to count consider you then wrote:

"I never said they were going cheap recently. But they were going cheap a while ago and it didn't work. They went backwards ."

So when and on what exactly are you saying Ajax "were going cheap" on and what did they change?




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18 Apr 2019 00:50:03
Kev. How can you actually sit there and say man city are not an example that spending brings success

Spending might not guarantee MAXIMUM success such as a champions League

But you tell me before they got money how many EPL titles Shaun goater or Paul dickov won with man city?

The fact they are even in the champions League is.

BECAUSE they got money.

= That money does guarantee success. Just not maximum success every year.

That's the reason Celtic and rangers Dominate Scotland for years and not Stirling Albion.




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17 Apr 2019 18:26:18
I never said they were going cheap recently. But they were going cheap a while ago and it didn't work. They went backwards .

Then they decided to spend. They spent wisely within their financial capability and as a result massively progressed.

We on the other hand are spending way under what we can actually afford. We should be trying to operate like Ajax or say benfica

Instead of us spending like a small Scandinavian side.


{Ed007's Note - Yeah having 13 teams at different ages all with their own coaching team, 50 odd scouts in Holland alone, a state of the art academy and training centre for the 200+ players on their books was them going cheap.
That's the problem with some Celtic fans, if Peter Lawwell came out and said the Club was investing half the money we have in the bank on upgrading Lennoxtown and the academy they would all be moaning that it should be spent on 1 or 2 signings for the CL next year, it's that kind of shortsightedness that is holding the whole of Scottish football back.}



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17 Apr 2019 11:46:11
Aye ed but some people who don't smoke get lung cancer. Doesn't mean people should never quit.

Fact in football is that although there isn't a guarantee in spending that it does in fact improve your chances of you are willing to push the boat out.

Also aye Ajax spent in other seasons but they have not spent on a level that we also couldn't afford.

Nobody is asking for a semi final but to actually make th groups regularly with a few respectable performances.

We already outspend most sides we face in qualifiers and being willing to push that out should get us qualification most seasons.


{Ed007's Note - But you said Ajax were going cheap and changed it, they were spending millions season season on youth development etc so they weren't going cheap, they just used their money elsewhere. Have a read at THIS: Look at the facilities they have at their academy, the amount of scouts and coaches they have etc.}