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27 Oct 2017 23:05:15
I'm fighting a bit of pre-match cynicism after hearing about BR's autobiography via an interview on the bbc tonite. Perfectly timed celebration, to be sure, on the continuing demise of the con-artists-formerly-known-as-rangers. I imagine it will do great in terms of sales right now, and don't grudge the man the telling of his tale--if that is what the book genuinely involves. He's all of 44, however, and in the middle of "building something" here (as we are regularly reminded) , so the timing doesn't exactly make for a retrospective as far as CFC is concerned. Won't get my panties in a twist, but any takers out there? Is it any good?

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1.) 28 Oct 2017 10:48:11
Hi Cavalcanti, there are 20 year old “celebrities” from reality tv writing autobiography’s so I’m sure Brendan has more to say than them but I don’t think there will be too much about his time as our manager in it. I think the biggest insult that he can give to the “former club” would be to not mention them at all. HH.


2.) 28 Oct 2017 11:48:12
He's fit quite a bit into they 44 years. Growing up during the troubles moving to England to build his football career then having it taken away by injury then building a coaching career from a young age.


3.) 28 Oct 2017 18:53:54
I like it.

"con-artists-formerly-known-as-rangers"

From now on I shall refer to them as CAFKAR! lol HH.


 

 

20 Oct 2017 15:02:54
Following up from another thread, what do you think Hibs would be justified in asking for McGinn, and what do you think we'd be justified in paying?

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1.) 20 Oct 2017 15:28:06
2.5 million tops although Hibs will ask for 3million minimum. When you consider we shelled out 4.5 for Ntcham 2.5 - 3 million would be good business mate.


2.) 20 Oct 2017 16:37:06
Hibs would be justified in asking whatever they want. I don't think we would be justified in signing him at all given the options we already have in the middle of the park.


3.) 20 Oct 2017 16:47:53
We would be justified in paying how much B R thinks he is worth having decided that he B R reckons that McGinn is high in his priorities in strengthening our team.


4.) 20 Oct 2017 17:07:33
Another midfielder.

is he really better than MacGregor who can't get a game, or Christie who can get a game. but with Aberdeen!

imagine we had spend 3m on a fit centre back - I know I can't imagine it either!


5.) 20 Oct 2017 17:14:19
we were outplayed by astana - but by the end of 2 legs we went thru.
did you see the astana goals in the EL?
we were playing the very very tipity top tier of world football against PSG and about 2 notches down against BM. we are about 5 notched below that.

But progress this year will be judged by in Europe after Christmas.

We can be poor sometimes in the league, but rest assured Hibs, Aberdeen may take points/ beat us sometime, but they will go to killie/ partick and loose points so the league is in the bag.

cups, yeah I love to win em - but if we don't its not the end of the world.

staying in eu after Christmas AND getting back into the CL next year MUST be our ambition - apart from the "next game is most important" BS.


6.) 20 Oct 2017 21:45:29
Mcginn at this moment is better than ntcham bitton and henderson I've said fof a while we should get this kid before the English flex there muscles.


7.) 20 Oct 2017 23:18:44
Hibs are looking for 4m according to Lennon.


 

 

15 Sep 2017 12:43:55
Today's Guardian about Scott Sinclair's 2007 solo effort for Plymouth vs Barnet

goo.gl/uki2m

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11 Sep 2017 12:08:03
I see that armed police have been authorised for tomorrow nite.
On the whole, I don't buy the terror argument; I don't even think the policy is primarily about preventing terrorism or catching potential terrorists. I live abroad and can't attend as often as I like, so it doesn't directly effect me, but I am curious how you all view this.

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1.) 11 Sep 2017 12:17:26
You got s conspiracy theory you would like to share?

If an attack did happen, regardless of the level of risk and no armed cops where there, how do you think that would play out?

Yeah me too.

After the attack in Paris it has to be done. Regardless of risk.


2.) 11 Sep 2017 12:42:30
Not a conspiracy theory, Magic, but some more or less ideological considerations, which I'll be happy to share below.


3.) 11 Sep 2017 13:28:28
After Paris, Barcelona, Manchester and everywhere else, I mean I know they were talking about making it harder to hire a van, but don't know if they have done anything yet, after everything that has happened they would be better erring on the side of caution.


4.) 11 Sep 2017 13:29:34
Cut to the chase.


5.) 11 Sep 2017 14:18:12
The world has changed and there will be armed police at every major event from here on in. That's just common sense. To not do that and an attack happened, we would get, they don't care about Celtic fans blah blah.

It's just a requirement now in relation to terrorism.


6.) 11 Sep 2017 15:29:41
they are there to protect both sets of fans women and children aswell don't for what happened in manchester it doesn't matter to them isis targeted kids and women at that event.


7.) 11 Sep 2017 15:32:26
Don't agree with it at all. Don't trust the polis wae pepper spray never mind machine guns.


8.) 11 Sep 2017 15:15:14
I agree that in the extremely unlikely circumstanes of an indiscriminate attack on a large crowd, armed policing is the best way to quickly contain the threat, and will undoubtedly help to minimize the number of casualties, along with other emergency personnel. We may wish society to police every large gathering of people in this manner or not, but on this view it makes sense to allocate the resources to the largest gatherings, and the most high profile events, and perhaps especially to those with international dimensions. Maybe France, and Paris, should make us especially cautious given events of the last years.

The examples from London suggest that having armed units nearby or on call can be very effective in the event of even premeditated attacks. But I don’t think this is what is being proposed: rather, I imagine visible patrols of armed officers, and all the regalia of militarized policing. Why, if we can all agree that even the most robust armed police presence will not deter such an attack (although it might conceivably cause the perpetrator to choose a ‘softer’ target) ?

A storm-trooperesque spectacle, it can be argued, fosters certain behaviours in crowds, and by extension in the societies that they form part of. If you accept the idea that this ‘makes us feel safe, ’ as well you might, this is just one way in which an armed police presence can incline you to behave, or think, or feel, in a given way, but it is hardly the only one. Studies correlate much less intrusive surveillance practices with startling increases in self-correction, self-censorship, and broad civic obedience. People are known to curtail their self-expression by considerations of being watched, and by the potential of retribution. (Think of the videotapes being used to single out ‘trouble makers’ in the crowd, for example) .

At a time when the corporatization of football is virtually complete, where FIFA or UEFA or ‘the Board’ tolerate no dissent, no sullying of their brands, all sorts of behaviours are now deemed to be undesirable, and to ‘have no place in football. ’ The anti-British-establishment songs associated with our team are a prime example, as are our ‘illicit’ political banners. Now, does arming the police have a bearing on those sorts of behaviours? On setting off fireworks, or smuggling a flask into the ground? I would suggest it does—not on the supposition that deviant behaviour will meet with pistols at high noon—but because it projects an irresistible view of authority and produces a more deferential citizenry. That, some argue, is the point of an armed police presence.

Until recently, the UK police have sought to govern by consent: the social contract and, failing that, the law itself was thought to be coercive enough to maintain order. More visceral forms of coercion are not needed, the argument goes, and are anyway incompatible with prevailing ideas about freedom and democracy. At a time of austerity, of Brexit, of Independence—all fairly momentous as politics goes—it is not unreasonable to presume that some folks might reject the decisions of authority and, it may be, a new paradigm is required. Crises are often used to usher in unpopular changes. Either way, this move risks normalizing a more directly repressive and coercive version of state authority than we are accustomed to.


9.) 11 Sep 2017 16:50:37
You missed out Islamic terrorism from your list of things that are happening today, or is it not politically correct to say that?


10.) 11 Sep 2017 18:20:16
Could someone tell me how a police person with a machine gun could have stopped the Manchester attack or the London attack?


11.) 11 Sep 2017 18:44:26
Didn't the armed police shoot the guys dead in London and in that place near Barcelona, and that policeman that was stabbed to death in Westminster was unarmed.


12.) 11 Sep 2017 19:01:51
Let me repeat the question for you Aindoh as I don't think you quite understood it the first time.

"How would a police person with a machine gun could have STOPPED the Manchester attack or the London attack? "

I put the key word in capitals for you.


13.) 11 Sep 2017 19:14:30
Ah, I see what you mean, but you agree then police armed with machine guns can stop an attacker or attackers, from killing more innocent, after the initial assault.


14.) 11 Sep 2017 19:52:42
Yes shooting someone dead does stop them doing anything else but I suspect you could stop them without having armed officers with machine guns.

Here is a something to consider, why don't we just change our foreign policy and stop supporting terrorists in the first place and then the attacks wouldn't happen.


15.) 11 Sep 2017 20:22:05
Britain and America are the reason for most of the atrocities, leave other countries and their resources alone, their actions have stirred a hornets nest in the middle east n it's going to take a lot of fixing before anyone is safe.


16.) 11 Sep 2017 20:42:16
It will never be fixed, gone too far😞.


17.) 11 Sep 2017 20:57:40
@gedceltic - I'm sure they said the same in Ireland but that got solved by both sides sitting round a table and working on a plan to move forward.


18.) 12 Sep 2017 13:43:02
with some big names in town they're obviously not taking any chances after what happened with the dortmund team bus recently.


 

 

11 Aug 2017 23:02:05
Kolo Tore: couldn't he have been the answer in there, and what's the craic with that?

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1.) 11 Aug 2017 23:10:16
BBC reporting that BR says that he is hopeful of bringing in some maybe even before CL game could it be Roberts I wonder?


2.) 12 Aug 2017 12:22:45
Kolo was on a serious wage last year and to be fair to him did his part to get us through to the groups. Made a few errors and stepped back. I read true or not, north of 30k mentioned as his salary last year.

Saw in other thread's he was wanting to play with a full contract or get involved with his national side youth development which is always an honourable part of African players ambitions to give back to their communities to support those that haven't made it yet.

We have 1 fit natural cb, ajer, lustig, nb, kt and if pushed broony as cover.
We won't buy a ready-made cl cb this window.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2017 23:08:50
As a black Celtic fan I was pissed off to read about the darkie on BT Sports. Okay I didn't watch the show.

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{Ed007's Note - Nobody used the term 'the darkie'. Behave yourself and stop looking for something to be offended by. It's been explained and if you've got a problem take it up with BT or even the man himself as he's been known as Darkie in sporting circles and the media for years.}


 

 

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25 Aug 2017 22:46:28
'I'm the context' or 'in the context' Dafa?

Probably were talking about a different language anyway.

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25 Aug 2017 21:16:37
Fair enough Ken, thanks for explaining. As a former 'Starky' I catch your drift.

I still object to 'darkie' however. Its not like the word doesn't have a very specific usage and history in British English. The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as follows: 'darkie. A Black, esp. a Southern U. S. Black (usu. considered patronizing or offensive) ' To use the term, however unwittingly, is to invoke a history of enslavement, segregation, and white supremacism that is anything but over.

But then I never did get why it was 'Packie' Bonner either. Sometimes, a name is just name. The fact that both are very white males makes all the difference to the context, of which I was wholly unaware. But 'Darkie on BT sport said' invites a challenge, surely!

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25 Aug 2017 18:01:12
I thought I heard some banter about Hartson on the matchday chitchat, Ken. Didn't catch his remarks myself, but they're obviously offensive. It wasn't that long ago we were all outraged at the vile treatment of Scott Sinclair after all. Let's keep the language inclusive on here, at least.

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25 Aug 2017 14:07:10
emmm *who* on BT Sports?!?!?!

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10 Nov 2017 20:58:35
Just wondering that on another thread Timalloy. Maybe they didn't want to risk a half-fit player with the second leg so soon after the first? Can't be losing Mikel now.

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10 Nov 2017 20:32:48
Always loved Emilio and was really sorry to see him head to the house of Saud. Definitely times this year I've thought about him and even Efe! But you can't go back.

Any notion why Lustig isn't involved with Sweden tonite, on a related note?

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31 Oct 2017 07:41:33
spat out my coffee there mate.

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31 Oct 2017 07:23:53
Lustig is smashing Ed001: he's not got the pace to deal with some of the elite left-wingers out there, right enough, but at his worst he is generally forgettable there, which is what I want in a defender, and at his best he's staunch and a little crafty. Passes well, and scores the (very) odd belter. Possibly you've also seen him deputising at centre-half, which certainly our achilles-heel at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - he just looked like he was blowing out of his arse after 20 minutes each time I saw him.}


 

 

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21 Oct 2017 15:12:10
Really professional showing from all concerned I thought, and a delight to have a free-scoring Dembele back!

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