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27 Nov 2020 03:26:27
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27 Nov 2020 00:52:25
Some of the posts on here are mental.

Between the banner to wanting a manager of the calibre of Rodgers back - plenty weren't all that happy all the time when he was here - especially the last 12 months when he got itchy feet.

Like him or loathe him, Lennon has a better record domestically with 76% of a win ratio vs Rodgers and his 70%.

Has everyone forgotten the European experience under Rodgers getting done by PSG and Barcelona?

Guy left us in the middle of a historic treble treble season before a cup game and tried to take all the staff.

In the past 43 League games Neil has lost 3 and drawn 5.

This season there's been Bolingoli putting us on the back foot with 2 postponed games for corona to get his jam roll. Eddy got the virus (I do think there's something else there) , Biton, Elhamed and Christie all got it. Julien is only just back and James Forrest (the same guy that gets pelters all the time on here) has been a huge loss to the club.

The goals leaked are a shocker, but overall we're going for a delayed quadruple treble - thanks to lennon keeping up the cup run rodgers abandoned - and are 4 points behind where we were last year - which turned out to be a record year when we got motoring after the break.

It's not perfect but I think Lennon has earned the right to try and get it on track with a settled squad now we've got most of them back from Corona and injury.

2nd half tonight - despite Bains stupidity was more like the team we know.

Everyone has the right to complain about the manager - we all pay our ST money, but try to remember growing up when we won nothing.

Talking about Howe as a potential saviour - do we really think half way through the season is the time to bring in someone untried with the pressure of delivering the expectations of a +70% win ratio to keep everyone happy? There's no substitute for experience.

I think not having fans in the ground is hurting the team - especially when it means hanging about outside with banners keeping the MSM or whatever in jobs.

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27 Nov 2020 00:02:12
Usual pish from Lennon saying the teams problems are psychological. The only one with psychological problems is himself he's deluded if he thinks that. The whole world can see the team has been well below par all season and that falls with him and the way he sets the team up. Surely tonight there should be inroads into seeing who the board can bring in to replace him, tonight was even more embarrassing than last week. The defence again all over the place what exactly has he done game by game to organize it? Nothing. So he doesn't have the right to say he's the man to turn things around as he's only achieved in making us look even worse week by week.

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26 Nov 2020 23:27:09
My, my how things are always different when the shoe is on the other foot:

“See projects? Forget it. I’m sick of hearing it. I’m sick of hearing about two- and three-year plans. I don’t buy into it. It’s about now. You don’t have time as a Celtic or Rangers manager. Projects are something my daughter does at school. I’m a football man, only interested in results, performances and players. I don’t care about two years’ time. I might not bloody be here. ”

Key point is Lennon stating you don't have time as a celtic manager. Why is he contradicting himself now?

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26 Nov 2020 22:59:33
Hey I'm 41 year old man who's first real taste of victory was the season we stopped them getting ten, Harold brattback goal against st Johnstone wow I was 18/ 19 living in Perth (moved down from the highlands to be nearer Celtic ) . Managed to get get tickets for that game, it changed my
Life that feeling of been deserved winners! That feeling of the Celtic family! If ever our club needed to feel the Celtic family it's now! So let's get behind our team and manager and earn our right to be 10 in a row winners . Hail hail.

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26 Nov 2020 22:29:41
Lennon will still be hear end of the season win or not board will back him because they backed him in the summer and will do so till end of the season but if the board have any real ambition its now time to show it Dun Dun Dun!

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26 Nov 2020 22:14:11
have always been a lenny fan bui surely lawell and dermott desmond must see the writing on the wall we will never win 10iar with lenny in charge and lawell has to go as well dermot you got us mon and the rat go and get us another half decent manager before 10iar goes tits up.

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26 Nov 2020 22:27:06
I'm beginning to think they want him to walk rather than pay him off.

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27 Nov 2020 00:05:28
The rat? Silly childish grow up son.

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26 Nov 2020 21:41:01
Someone until the end of the season isn't really acceptable. They would need to be desperate to take the job on.

Leaving in the summer or next window will be Ajer, Ntcham, Rogic, Elyounoussi, Edouard, Duffy, Brown and most likely Christie.

Not all will be missed but a major rebuild will be needed. Whoever comes in next needs to be the right man for the job, not the best of what's available, not someone who's Celtic minded. It needs to be someone who can stamp an identity on the team and lead us forward. There can be absolutely no doubt that we are regressing at an alarming rate under Lennon.

Dermot Desmond will need to dig deep, just like he did with O'Neill and Rodgers.

A statement of intent is needed here. Either appoint a director of football and get a coach to steady ship until the end of the season while the director of football sorts the playing squad, or pay the money for a quality manager. Let him bring his own coaching staff and backroom team and give him full control of football matters.

Either way a transfer of power from Lawell to a DoF or a new manager needs to happen. We lost Rodgers as he wasn't given total control which has ultimately cost us the 10.

Who do we want?

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26 Nov 2020 22:03:48
Completely agree should have had the courage to let Lennie go after interim appointment, suitability rewarded.
Then appointed someone of similar quality and standing as Rodgers with similar philosophy. We need to pick one and stick with it we keep changing it. There were suitable candidates that close season had we been prepared to pay the money and keep investing in improving the infrastructure not disco lights.

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26 Nov 2020 22:35:08
No, we lost Rodgers as he fancied another crack at EPL.

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26 Nov 2020 23:04:18
The Buck stops totally at Lawell and his Ego, his short-sighted complacency and his player recruitment and selling incompetence.

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26 Nov 2020 23:44:11
It's a really difficult cross roads here. there's not many coaches out there that we could attract that are of the standard of Rodgers.

It cannot be another puppet on Lawells string like Lennon or Deila.

There's a few names out there that I'd like to see us go for but realistically you know there's no chance of getting them. Mainly due to the league we compete in and the Scottish climate.

If an old timer was up for the gig for a few years I'd be happy with any of the following:
Jupp Heynckes
Guus Hiddink 
Laurant Blanc
Arsene Wenger

As I said though I think we would have next to no chance of pulling this off. I can't see them coming out of semi retirement leaving behind the golf courses and sunny shores to rock up at places like Dingwall and Tannadice.

An up and coming manager like Marco Rose would be ideal but I don't think the overall pull would be enough to tempt someone like him from a Bundesliga club, albeit they are sitting about 8th in the table.

Marco Silva is also an interesting option and the fact he is unattached should appeal to the money men but this shouldn't make him any more of a preferred candidate.

Then there's middle of the road guys that don't really whet the appetite but could do a good job. Guys like Paul Lambert, Mark Hughes, Nigel Pearson, Garry Monk, Eddie Howe, even Davie Moyes. I think these guys are realistic targets that should be on a shortlist.

There are others who have been really good assistant managers have great reputations as coaches. 2 that spring to mind are Mike Phelan and Zeljko Buvac (Jurgen Klopps ex assistant at Dortmund and Liverpool) . Would someone like this be worth the risk with a Director of Football above them?

The worst case scenario for me is a temporary appointment like Malky Mackay or Owen Coyle. It would reek of lack of ambition and show that Lawell wants to retain control of football matters.

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26 Nov 2020 21:27:51
Of course we all want to win everything but going for another treble has been our downfall. Pl, DD and whoever runs the club have thought we are untouchable. Complacency has derailed us big time.

Seriously guys, if no action is taken we will get slaughtered at ibrox. We will lose 5,6 or 7 goals.

To show how far we've fallen, what is the weakest area of the team?
Goalkeeping?
Full backs?
Centre backs?
Midfield?
Widemen?
Strikers?

For the life of me, every area is pi$$ poor. They are not bad players but on current form and guidance we are not going to improve.

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26 Nov 2020 21:59:07
Our team is a shambles why players shambles why manager a shambles why results are terrible and we keep hoping and trying to beleive but we need to keep thinking we can come good again that's why we keep our faith but something needs to be done a quickly these results are not good for us well under par I hope we can turn it around.

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