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23 Jul 2024 00:24:52
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22 Jul 2024 22:05:58
Any of the Irish lads know much about Aaron connelly? Just noticed he's available for a free and with Rodgers coming out saying he wanted 3 strikers fkr season wondered if he could do a job.

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22 Jul 2024 22:19:28
Nowhere near good enough.

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22 Jul 2024 20:17:14
20yr old Oliver Provstgaard Danish u21 international CB, played every minute of last season in the Danish top flight, another u21 Danish striker Alexander Lind would be a great 3rd option striker.

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22 Jul 2024 15:22:54
Wee question, i bumped into an old friend at a snack bar earlier today, he's telling me if sevco win the league this season they go straight into the cl but we don't, is this remotely true?

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22 Jul 2024 15:48:11
There was a way they could've qualified as runner up last season because of their high coefficient but they needed a load of results to go their way. Could potentially be the same this season if some very specific scenario plays out.

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22 Jul 2024 16:17:28
Your reply should have been a fit of laughter, followed by a derisory sneer and a comment of, "you, win the league this year? ". Followed with more laughter.

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22 Jul 2024 16:46:28
weejoe🤣.

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22 Jul 2024 19:14:23
There’s a good chance he’s correct under the new format.

The new format gives One extra place to Champions with the highest Coefficient points in Associations from 11th place onwards.
But
Only if the 2025 Champions League winners have already Qualified through their domestic league.

It happened in the new formats first season.
The 2024 CL winners Real Madrid had already Qualified for the 2024/ 25 groups,
So their place went to Shakhter Donetsk, who had the most Coefficient points from Champions, in Associations of 11th place onwards.

I believe if Sevco did win the Scottish title, it would probably take a miracle for them not to get that extra guaranteed place in the new format.

There’s also a place for the highest Coefficient club who finish 2nd in the league but only if the Europa League winners Qualify for the CL groups, through their domestic league.
Sevco just missed out on this place by Benfica this season.

It’s also possible for Celtic to win the title in 2025 and we would still need to Qualify.
Yet Sevco could finish 2nd and still get that non Champions extra place because of their high Coefficient points.
Benfica or Porto would prevent that if either club finish 2nd in the Portuguese league in 2025.
Or if Ajax finished 2nd in the 2025 Dutch league.

It makes a mockery of the CL,
If the Champions Celtic need to Qualify but 2nd place Sevco could actually go straight into the CL groups.

UEFA are a joke.

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22 Jul 2024 19:50:04
I’ve just read the rules of the new format.

It mentions that Sevco would NOT get that extra non champions place, even if they had the highest Coefficient points because of Celtic.

UEFA rules prevent a club finishing 2nd an automatic place if the Champions need to Qualify.

That place would go to the next non champions club with the highest Coefficient points.

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22 Jul 2024 20:00:38
I was convinced that Sevco would get in the back door of the CL groups in the next few years because of their high Coefficient points.
They only missed out this year.

But After reading the rules, that’s not possible because they can’t leapfrog Celtic if we continue to win the title over the next few years.
( until the Sevco Coefficient points go down )

This season is basically their last chance saloon because from next season -
Scotland will only get One CL Qualifying place and that should be Celtic.

If Celtic continue to win the title,
We will go into the CL Qualifiers each season and Sevco will go into the Europa League Qualifiers each season.

Happy Days. 😁.

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22 Jul 2024 21:53:10
Happy days i preferred going straight in buzz, last thing I am is happy with the situation .

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22 Jul 2024 13:41:30
Would data mining football manager do a better job at unearthing talent than our current recruitment team?

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22 Jul 2024 14:05:14
Joe, I think most clubs use similar tactics with data, rather than traipsing all over the world to watch some obscure games.

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22 Jul 2024 14:59:52
To be fair the "wonderkids" tend to do alright in real life more often than not.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd say that most if not all clubs use FM as part of their data gathering.}

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22 Jul 2024 16:06:11
I am sure I read somewhere that FM has more scouts worldwide than any club on the planet. That's how they know about all the young wonder kid players.

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22 Jul 2024 22:31:07
The fact that Will Still went from FM to real life football manager says enough to me lol albeit a route via other roles in the game.

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22 Jul 2024 12:37:06
So far we have 2 keepers in which will bide well for us. vata oh haksa abd benji all away hopefully Mccarthy kobayashi possibly yang get clubs as well.

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22 Jul 2024 13:53:49
We've been saying 'possibly' for McCarthy for what seems like years, a real millstone round our neck.

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22 Jul 2024 14:25:03
Why should he leave until his contract is over . it's our board / recruitment teams fault for buying someone who wasn't needed. you'd think we'd learn our lesson but unfortunately not.

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22 Jul 2024 16:23:04
I remember when McCarthy signed there was people saying his dad was sick and that is why he wanted back up the road. If that is still the case there is no chance he is going anywhere unless it is on loan in Scotland and we are picking up a large percentage of his wage.

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22 Jul 2024 16:36:59
You know what joe id think that would be great. Best of a bad deal option. Off to motherwell or hibs. Who cares if we pay the lot. We are paying him anyway. Gets a swansong playing football rather as just getting paid. Thing that strikes me is he's never mentioned in any capacity good or bad.

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22 Jul 2024 18:05:21
Do you actually think Mc Carthy get another club . Having had him at our club without really getting any benefit, is getting rid of him for his fourth and final important.
I wouldn’t be all that anxious in Yang getting a new club . He was excellent last season for 3-4 games before he was wrongly red carded . We don’t know yet if he can perform this season . It would be foolish to get rid of him before he has a full first season . It’s inevitable that some players will take longer than others to settle in a new Country, with different climate and style of football.

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22 Jul 2024 18:53:27
Totally agree Des, give him a chance as there is a player in there and it may just be taking him time to settle into a country where people eat fried mars bars and its so hard to buy steel.

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22 Jul 2024 11:47:57
We need to keep our feet on the ground guys but we might have a chance if winning the pre season cup 😄. Celebrations at The Tron if we do?

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22 Jul 2024 13:01:03
They have had a stranglehold on it in recent years. Would be a massive achievement if we managed to win it this year. 🤣

I think we should put it beside the European Cup if we win it. Thoughts?

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22 Jul 2024 13:32:32
They look like winning their manager back over might be the biggest match they have. Even cheerleader boyd thinks he's chucked it.

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22 Jul 2024 13:39:32
Bood of the park on Saturday
Their social media sites are full of rage before the season even starts.

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22 Jul 2024 13:55:08
1st leg of hopefully a Quadruple 😄.

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22 Jul 2024 16:53:29
They are lucky they are not playing at Ibrokes. Once they start playing to empty stadiums they will probably play better, like Covid season. So maybe they might pose a challenge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪.

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22 Jul 2024 18:59:08
Saw that sevco supporters video of their game against Man U. God they were dug meat and before half time they were running for the exits.

If they lose a game or 2 early on, or exit Europe early, the hordes will be marching on asbestosdome and Bennet may have to own up to how bad things actually are.

If they have a poor start to the season, baldy will leave and will disclose exactly what is going on, that appears to be the nature of the man, no loyalty other than to his ego.

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22 Jul 2024 21:34:29
The baldy skeletor never accepts responsibility, it is always someone else's fault with him.

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22 Jul 2024 02:48:50
Just saw a video clip of our game against DC united. When they played the us national anthem, one of our fans waved the Palestinian flag. 👏.

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22 Jul 2024 01:35:53
I remember once Peter Lawell talking about Celtic being sustainable and the reason that they were was to make sure that there would always be a football club for Celtic supporters to go and watch. They don't operate the club using champions league money in their budgets, when the board decide their budget the following season the champions league money isn't allocated or used for this and this was always down to the fact that we had to qualify to get into the tournament and didn't always make it so we couldn't rely on that for the budget as it is never guaranteed to be there and the reason we have cash reserves is because we have just come through a period where we didn't have to qualify for the tournament. That won't always be the case as I'm sure after next season The winners in Scotland will be back to qualifying if my memory serves me correctly as the country has slipped down the table again, so imagine the board do everything the fans want to do and start buying more expensive players on more expensive wages and we don't qualify for the big tournament for a couple of seasons suddenly things don't start to look so rosey in the garden. It is unprecedented foe us to have so much cash or any football club to have so much money in the bank and because of this we all want the club to go out and take Celtic to the next level, I get that I really do what I am not sure about if it is actually possible to do so though. You bring in these players and you don't qualify which leads to them wanting away and because we aren't playing at the top table they are worth less than we paid and are on massive wages so nobody wants to buy them. Sound familiar?
On the flip side obviously though we could do it and become better which means our player are worth a bit more when we are selling them.
So obviously our conservative board have decided the risk is too great for them to take, after all they are looking after the club for us and just want to make sure it is here all the time. I get that too I really do, I don't think they are easy decisions to make either way. And I always remember wee Fergus saying I am going to have to make decisions that lots of people won't like but to ensure there is a future for this great club I will have to make them. I also remember that when wee Fergus was making those decisions everyone hated him at the time and yet we all look back now and are so grateful to that man for doing the work he done. Running Celtic can't be easy with the expectations from the fans and I reckon if those that do run the club did do everything the fans want then we would probably be like that lot over the road and in a right mess.


It isn't easy being a Celtic but it is worth it 🍀💚🍀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

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22 Jul 2024 02:12:44
If we have money in the bank then we need to pay tax on that money, which reduces the amount we have. Surely it is better to invest that money either in players or infrastructure?

The benefit of investing in players is we have the chance to. grow that investment.

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22 Jul 2024 02:14:49
This is a very wise post. Celtic should never chase success over survival. We want to advance but we don’t want to end up Like HBOS RBS and Northern Rock who gambled with customers money and left them skint.

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22 Jul 2024 07:50:30
I can see why Our Board are reluctant to move up a level because of our dominance in Scottish football and the big gap in the CL groups.
But
Remember a lot of that cash reserves was earned because basically agent Sevco have got Celtic a 3rd successive CL group campaign, with their impressive Coefficient points tally.
( Although Celtic have done well to win 3 in a row domestically )

You’re correct about the Scottish Champions losing that Automatic CL place next season and we might never get that place back under the current format because Scotland has slipped way down the Association Coefficient table.

Celtic will have about £150M in the bank at the end of the June 30th 2025 accounts.
We should have a good plan on how to spend or invest that cash because we will never have as much cash probably ever again because the chances of Qualifying for the CL groups 3 years in a row are slim.

Personally I would invest in a hotel which will generate extra cash for many more years to come.

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22 Jul 2024 07:57:55
No club budgets for money they don't have apart from maybe 1.

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22 Jul 2024 08:27:23
Yes that's the cl groups history now, we really can't complain.

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22 Jul 2024 09:50:59
Decision making in the past pretty much hampered our ability to get through qualifying. Nobody expects us to go on a crazy spending spree but at times we didn’t even try. On occasion, we probably only needed to strengthen 1 or 2 positions and the money in the bank could have been X 10 ( get it no guarantees) but a good possibility. As the number also said “money doesn’t guarantee success but no money guarantees no success “.

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22 Jul 2024 10:22:17
You look at teams like Brighton, Brentford, Copenhagen, Atalanta and Salzburg. They have an amazing system in place for spotting talent.

If they can do it why can't we?

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22 Jul 2024 11:43:53
If we don't budget ourselves on CL money then what happens to it when we do get it?

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22 Jul 2024 13:10:25
WeeJoe if only the board would modernise the football department to be like those you speak of, the only reason I can think of that they don't do it is because there is no reserve league in Scotland so essentially there isn't any games for all the talented youngsters to play in so what is the point in the cost to set it all up?

And Henke you are now seeing what happens to it when it builds up and gets stored in the bank, in previous seasons I would reckon it would go towards buying players and giving players you are trying to keep for a bit longer better contracts.

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22 Jul 2024 13:42:07
Most of the clubs you mentioned may have recruited well but when you are in a top five European League with Sponsorship and TV money so vastly different than Scotland’s meagre couple of million . The clubs like Brentford and Brighton are starting with well over £100 m money coming in annually more than us because of TV deals. Copenhagen and RedBull are relatively new clubs with good recruitment, yet relatively little Championship League success .
It’s relatively easy to look on jealousy at other club’s success only to later realise Celtic haven’t done to bad with their meagre resources.

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22 Jul 2024 14:47:50
Celtic haven't done to bad wee des? European football all we do is get embarrassed for to often.

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22 Jul 2024 15:59:30
One knockout win in twenty years. not done to bad!,

Are you for real?

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22 Jul 2024 17:25:36
I honestly believe if we can give Bredan a squad of players all round about the same level ie, The level we have just now in out best 11 on the park. If we could have around 20 players that every one of them can make a good positive contribution then I believe we would see some progress in that area. When we played last season especially at home in our group we really weren't that far away, it was maybe a few injuries and rash decisions on the park that led to bans coupled with the fact our bench wasn't that strong that cost us. If we can just give Brendan a bit more quality and I don't mean players that are way better than what we have already then I honestly believe we will see a bit of progress.

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22 Jul 2024 19:23:02
Royjac I agree it’s about deadwood out and quality in.

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22 Jul 2024 19:26:36
Two things that should be remembered, just because a few of your friends who are Celtic supporters think that Celtic are weak in certain positions does not mean the Manager and the Board regard these positions as very important to bring in new blood and no amount of posting will change that .
Other thing even though Board may have tried very hard to bring in new blood for certain position over 2/ 3 transfer windows and they haven’t managed, doesn’t mean that it is either the recruitment nor Board’s fault, they could have done everything possible but if players decide especially after a protracted negotiation decide to go else where, the transfer window can pass u by with players showing interest but not signing deal.

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22 Jul 2024 22:12:34
I refer you back to the managers quote. ” We could have been braver”. Listen we all have a fair idea of how difficult it is to attract quality to the league on the wages we are prepared to offer. There are a lot of grown men with years of experience following Celtic and football in general on this forum.


I have noticed you have a very condescending style but when put on the spot waffle some amount of nonsense.

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{Ed007's Note - You'll get used to it and learn not to interact with OMC. It's a painful lesson a lot of us on here have learnt.}

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22 Jul 2024 22:53:05
👍👍👍.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍🏻👍🏻

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22 Jul 2024 00:09:09
Chris Sutton making mischief about Kasper he can't believe the fans aren't happy. I think they are happy. Chris come out and say Rangers are deid that would make a lot of fans happy.

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22 Jul 2024 07:59:41
What has kasper got to do with them? Your obsession is off the charts mate. Are your genuinely a celtic fan or were you an old firm fan?

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22 Jul 2024 17:50:28
I think you are missing the point here. Chris is saying this saying that but the one thing he won’t say is Rangers are dead why do you think that is? . And obviously standing @ firhill frozen in the 80s watching Celtic in the league cup when hardly anyone was going to football doesn’t qualify me as a Celtic fan. I think your obsession is with me.

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22 Jul 2024 22:12:07
Chris is talking about celtic. So why would he mention rangers? Honestly it's embarrassing that some so called celtic fans first thoughts are always rangers. Your response makes zero sense mate. I will never understand " celtic fans" obsession with a dead club. But each to their own I suppose.

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21 Jul 2024 21:12:17
Edd, av posted before asking if MK Dons have any sell on clause on MOR but no1 seemed to know, any idea mate.

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{Ed007's Note - Yes they do but I'm not sure about how much it is. When Graham Alexander was MK Dons manager he spoke about in an interview saying the board had told him he would get their cut as extra transfer business.}

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21 Jul 2024 21:40:21
Thanks 👍.

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{Ed007's Note - 👍👍

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22 Jul 2024 10:24:36
I have been reading a lot of posts and bloggs recently about our perceived lack of signings.

What stands out in most of them is that on one hand the board (yes its board blaming again) need to pull the finger out and get players in, pay Norwich what they want for Idah and the same with Bernardo, and stop submitting lowball offers.

On the other hand, they are telling the club to tell Atlanta to f**k off until they offer us what MOR is really worth or hat we are saying he's worth.

Are we only doing what Norwich and Atlanta are doing, trying to get a good deal but some people out there want us to pay what these clubs want or will accept, so we get these guys in, whilst at the same time, holding out for what we want on another deal.

Unfortunately Celtic are not a special case when it comes to making deals, we cannot expect to get the best price for deals for our players and pay way below market value for others. Sometimes you have to go for the centre ground and pay a little more or take a little less, that's what negotiating is all about.

I do think some people write this stuff for effect and to try and plant a seed of doubt in the minds of our support to try and get them to believe our board don't want to improve the team, as they already feel we have a superior squad to them across the city.

I don't buy into that as in the end it will be self defeating. Weaker team, less success and failure to qualify for CL, resulting in poorer financial investment.

For me this is done in an effort to unsettle us before the window closes and the season begins, get us to moan about the club and board, all whilst not knowing what our club are doing to try and get players in.

I have read a few of James Forrrest bloggs lately and i agreed with most but lately, on an almost daily basis, he is changing his mind about our window, he was delighted when we got the keepers in and Bernardo was on the edge and said the club were now moving in the right direction and the window was beginning to look as it should.

Within a day or so, after no more signings were announced, he was questioning the boards commitment to bringing in more players and that we may start the season weaker than we ended the last one.

I know being a supporter is a rollercoaster but good god, give us a break and give the club a chance do it's business.

We can all comment on the window when it closes in a few weeks.

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22 Jul 2024 11:42:51
I get where you are coming from MIP. Norwich haven't asked for 25m though. That's the main difference. Idah seems to be our number one target. 8m is not a lot for a striker. We've had a while to negotiate now and if they still aren't accepting six then just pay eight. Anybody that vents frustration is told to relax, calm down, have patience, these things take time, there's just been a Euros etc etc by the bots that have been programmed by the club.

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22 Jul 2024 11:59:23
MadeinParadise, Many of our supporters live in a dream world of non realities. They cannot believe that our Board can’t within one month of summer transfer season opening, haven’t filled the positions of our glaring weaknesses by players already capable of taking us further in Europe .
At the same time after 2 or so years development are better players have become European Standard and fans speculate daily as to how much we can get for our European standard player . One even thinks we are wrong to try to hold player to his contract when this poor player can earn more money elsewhere .
Players do not want to play in a weak league with continuous winter weather throughout most of season. Progressive players wanting to advance career want to be tested and extended weakly in a temperate climate and modern city where Wags can enjoy themselves. In Glasgow, we don’t have much too appeal to either player or Wag .
Some of our fans sit idly by wondering on what angle they can blame the Board for on that particular day . Without having the slightest knowledge of the problem surrounding a situation, they criticise and condemn the Board . These fans spend everyday trying to divide and conquer the club . They imagine criticising the Board will cause Board to disintegrate and resign their Board membership and fans will be able to appoint their spokesmen in lieu .
Basically that isn’t happening despite all their utterances of discontent. The fact is the fans who matter, who buy season tickets and evermore merchandise, are still doing so in increasing numbers . Waiting lists for season books lengthening illustrate fans contentment.

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22 Jul 2024 13:27:19
Maybe Norwich are refusing to sell Idah as the new manager wants keep him and maybe we have went in low who actually knows for sure? There is probably only a hanful of people that do. So if Norwich aren't selling this will have forced the recruitment team to look at other options which isn't as straightforward as everyone thinks it is,

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22 Jul 2024 15:18:13
Of course that's one possibility royjac.

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22 Jul 2024 15:50:36
It's incredibly straightforward royjac. It's literally the recruitment and scouting team's job.

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