Celtic banter 2

13 Oct 2025 09:44:33
So, to summarise John McGinn.
The Villa captain and 80 Cap Scotland regular is:-
A headless chicken whose legs have gone, who had his big chance to play for us (in a lower league for much less money) , but despite his apparent shortcomings Villa would not sell for a good offer anyway because he has 18 months left on his contract.
That's a pity, because a few of us felt two seasons with an exciting winner like John in the team would be beneficial. Oh well, like Edward's army we've been sent home tae think again.

13 Oct 2025 10:30:09
Mcginn is still a terrific player and remains imo one of our biggest feck ups, if memory serves me well we had all summer to make our move but did our usual flaffing about same as fletcher when wee Gordon was crying out for a striker that season and we lose the league, john mcginn has ripped the so called best league in the world up and is the villa captain a club that has spent millions speaks volumes for the boy.

13 Oct 2025 07:39:35
{Ed's Note - WhyAreYouSoGoodBrian has posted a new article entitled, Glasgow Rangers Missed The Moment With Steven Gerrard

12 Oct 2025 20:49:54
Read this online from guy called Andy Muirhead, think it's right on point.

There's no dressing up the hostility around Celtic Park right now, as the latest "dialogue" between fans and the board did absolutely nothing to quell the storm. The hostility isn't just brewing - it's boiling over. After what was a miserable summer that saw the team gutted, with key departures and not nearly enough in the way of proper reinforcements, fans were calling out for real answers, not platitudes. The club's hierarchy likes to act as if agreeing to sit across the table is some big gesture of goodwill, but it's nothing more than a PR manoeuvre designed to buy time, to appease supporters while hoping the protests fade into memory. The board's approach reeks of arrogance and detachment, dodging accountability and blaming everything from "market conditions" to "bad luck, " but never their own ineptitude.

Inside the meeting, senior figures like Michael Nicholson and Chris McKay sat there giving their tired rehearsed responses, defending their transfer failures as "part of the club's philosophy, " utterly blind to the urgency and anger seething through the stands. Lawwell - the man who embodies the board's culture of cronyism, was nowhere to be seen, and that absence spoke volumes about his commitment. The Celtic Fans Collective left the meeting deeply disappointed, and their statement couldn't be clearer: the board remains entirely disconnected, and the session produced no tangible outcomes worth reporting. Supporters were looking for a sign of humility or real change in leadership; but what we got was more stubbornness and corporate speak instead. The board seems to think that one sterile meeting will put a lid on years - decades even - of mismanagement, and as a fan, nothing could be further from the truth. This isn't old-school, romantic wrangling with the suits; this is fury at incompetence, at the club's willingness to drift through mediocrity while fans are treated as cash cows instead of partners in ambition.

What stands out to me the most is the blatant attempt to minimise the fans' concerns and attribute blame elsewhere. The board's public statement tries to "empathise" with supporters by admitting "mistakes, " but only in the vaguest possible terms. Not one leader took direct responsibility for the transfer window disaster or for the absentee landlord approach that Dermot Desmond and Peter Lawwell have perfected over years of self-serving tenure. In their world, errors just "happen, " and we're supposed to clap for some ambiguous pledge to "do better. " If you've been in the stands long enough, you know this song and dance - the same faces controlling the board, the same refusal to refresh or listen, the same patronising overtures about dialogue that never result in true reform. They're only there to protect their positions, their dividends, and their legacy of nepotism. If anything, the hostility from the Celtic fanbase is wholly justified and only growing by the day.

This isn't hyperbole. It's time for a total clear-out - the lot of them, from Desmond down. What purpose does a director serve if their only real qualification is proximity to the old boys' network? Let's be honest: the club is infected by a culture where power is inherited, not earned, and there are no real checks and balances. If Celtic is ever going to compete or even carve out consistency among Europe's elite, fans need to demand hard rules on governance - term limits for directors, transparent appointment processes, and zero tolerance for nepotism. No more lifers, no more unaccountable kingmakers pulling the strings from a golf course in Ireland or America. This club's soul belongs in the terraces, not the boardroom lounges, and it's going to take real pain - missed games, lost revenue, and relentless protest - to chase out the greed and plant the seeds of renewal.

No matter what the board claims, the unrest among Celtic supporters shows no signs of dissipating. The silent protests, the organised withdrawal from home cup schemes, the drop in merchandise sales - all of it points to a level of activism and unity rarely seen in recent years. Fans won't be appeased by empty promises or vague gestures any longer, and as far as most are concerned, the meeting with the fans was just another attempt by the board to play for time and divide the support. If anything, the meeting served only to highlight how urgent real, structural change is for Celtic Football Club. This is only the beginning, and the fight to reclaim our club from those who would run it into the ground will go on, louder and prouder than ever.

{Ed007's Note - Andy ran the Scotzine site for years, I didn't know he was kicking about again.}

13 Oct 2025 06:45:26
He’s clearly pissed about something 😳.

12 Oct 2025 18:34:18
I agree with 4LC, if we could get McGinn this next window he could do a great job for us. Yes he is wrong side of 30 but is younger than Calmac by over 18 months and he has never been blessed with pace and even with Hibs he looked "leggy". I suppose it depends on how much Villa would want as he is not worth a sizeable fee given his age, £3m - £5m though might get it done. Obviously plenty other decent players out there but in comparison to Bernardo, Engles, McCowan, Calmac and Hatate id say he is an upgrade and Sevco would not boss him like they do the others.

12 Oct 2025 19:01:44
There’s zero chance of Villa allowing him to leave with 18 months left on his contract.

12 Oct 2025 19:07:37
Watching Scotland tonight, I would not want Andy Robertson.

He cannot defend, he struggled to pass without giving the ball away and his crosses into the box were poor.

He did cross it and McTominay scored but it was a poor cross.

To be fair to him, all the Scottish defenders, when Scotland needed to hold the ball and catch a breath, simply lumped it up the park.

Scotland were very lucky tonight.

Tierney looked sharp when he came on though, even though it was at right back. Really SC 🤪

Steve Clark is no mastermind and with the players Scotland have, we should never be bullied in midfield by Belarus.

12 Oct 2025 19:14:18
Mcginn has plenty left in the tank.

12 Oct 2025 20:00:11
I wouldn't want McGinn as he's a headless chicken. He's right back one minute and outside left the next. He's a bigger bum than ten asses and we weren't obviously good enough for him - no thanks, not for me.

{Ed007's Note - 😂😂 Not a fan then Stengo?}

12 Oct 2025 20:25:48
Is it that obvious, Ed? 😂.

{Ed007's Note - It's just a feeling.....

12 Oct 2025 20:39:58
We have too many aging player.

12 Oct 2025 20:44:29
I’m usually a good judge when it comes to players but I admit I got John McGinn very wrong.
I wasn’t a big fan of McGinn but he would’ve been a great signing for Celtic.

13 Oct 2025 01:10:58
Mcginn would absolutely run riot in Scotland.

13 Oct 2025 09:14:43
I totally disagree that McGinn would run riot in Scotland. He struggled against Belarus last night and looks better in a team where he is surrounded by better quality players, where he doesn't run about looking lost.

I admit he has done well in Engerlund but so has Ryan Christie but I would have neither of them in our team.

It may be because SC plays him out of position because for some reason he has to play Gilmour in midfield, a really overrated player.

13 Oct 2025 10:31:58
The only hope of getting McGinn in January would be if he was dropped and had a massive fall out with manager. Can't see that happening as he's a good pro.
Despite his age, he would be a great addition. Clark's negative set up made a crap Belarus side look good and almost cost us dearly. Virtually asked him to play winger, what a waste. Thank god Denmark beat Greece last night as I can't see us getting a point in our last 2 games.

The sooner we get shot of SC the better. Get a manager who plays the best, in-form players, in their right positions, in a more attacking set-up. Maybe get some well-won results, instead on relying on luck game after game.

13 Oct 2025 11:23:19
Gilmour is class.

13 Oct 2025 12:10:43
Would take him.

12 Oct 2025 17:02:46
It's only banter but every time I see Gannon-Doak I think of the Kevin Bridges sketch.

When you come back after the summer holidays and you have an extended name.
Less the Mum patter 😂.

12 Oct 2025 17:39:09
Why is he no longer Ben doak? (I'm assuming that is who it is🤣)

12 Oct 2025 19:14:44
His dad's name is gannon.

12 Oct 2025 12:24:50
I think Che Adams is Scotlands version of Adam Idah, both decent players, and they will score you some goals, but they stifle the attacking potential of the team, you could see how much better the team moved forward with Ian Atcho replacing Idah, I think Bowie could have the same effect on the Scottish bream if SC replaced Adams with Bowie, but Steve Clarke likes his favourites, so not sure if he will do it .

12 Oct 2025 13:17:24
Even Dykes looked more effective than Adams. Given the players available, I think we should be playing quick, tricky strikers, with lots of movement.

Won't happen under Clark though. More chance of getting a glacier to change direction.

12 Oct 2025 14:22:34
Good point aindoh.

12 Oct 2025 14:37:35
Ian Atcho 😂😂😂 brilliant.

12 Oct 2025 16:50:31
Let's hope Clarke has them being a bit more expansive Fri night was like watching paint dry.

12 Oct 2025 20:14:32
Clarke and Clement Freud would make a great comedy act. Imagine the two of them doing after dinner speeches. They would need to tell you when they crack a joke. The two dourest sods you could ever wish for.

13 Oct 2025 07:07:07
Imagine what Ange could do with that Scotland pool of players.

12 Oct 2025 12:00:59
I liked the video of Martin O'Neill talking about Henrik Larsson.

MON said to John Robertson
"Henrik hasn't scored yet"
John replied
"We haven't kicked off yet" 😂.

12 Oct 2025 10:26:46
The manager said the two new Japanese boys weren't good enough / ready yet . so why are they not on loan in spl to give them the game time to improve . is this internal politics at club or are they just rubbish.

12 Oct 2025 14:19:46
100% it's our elite manager being twisted, he did it first time around with Shved I believe it was, that's why I can't wait for him to get out of our club. No idea why we brought him back in the first place.

12 Oct 2025 15:40:22
He has 'frozen-out' a number of players during both his stints and whether it's a swipe at the recruitment people because he never had them on his wish-list, I don't know? Invariably they are forced to move on and it can't be an ideal environment for good team spirit or squad bonding, when several of them are rubber-eared.

12 Oct 2025 16:52:27
Ange did it as well remember gucci and kobayashi think the manager would know if they were good enough and they aren't.

11 Oct 2025 18:27:23
DD please sanction a realistic bid for John McGinn in January.
Pay a fair price and bring a real winner to Paradise.

{Ed007's Note - McGinn turns 31 next week and has won 2 trophies in his entire career, he had his chance to play for Celtic and blew it and now his legs are going he wants to come to us, he can pi$$ off - maybe a move back to Hibs or even Ibrox would be better for him.}

11 Oct 2025 19:34:56
McGinn’s contract doesn't expire until 2027.
He’s still a huge player for Villa which makes getting him sooner near impossible.
I’m not sure Celtic fans would want a near 33 year old box to box midfielder.
Like Ed mentioned John had his chance.

Only John McGinn can answer the question when he retires.
He’s been very successful with Villa in the most lucrative league in the World but would he have swapped that for all those major honour he would’ve won with Celtic and to play in Europe every season.

11 Oct 2025 19:38:51
I just checked.
John McGinn has currently missed out on 15 major honours and counting because he chose not to join Celtic and several European campaigns.

11 Oct 2025 19:58:28
* join Aston Villa.

11 Oct 2025 19:59:04
Sorry I was right first time 😂🤦‍♂️.

{Ed007's Note - You lost me, Buzz 😂👍

11 Oct 2025 20:16:28
I did post 'Bid a fair price in January' he is not 33 in January.
He is still (in my opinion) better than we have at present.
We don't know why he went to Villa- perhaps they offered Hibs more money and offered McGinn double the wages?

11 Oct 2025 20:27:48
He agreed to join us the night of broonys testimonial against Ireland xi. He met Rodgers and deal was done. Club agreed a fee with Hibs and were waiting on it being announced when window opened, with an agreement in place that hibs wouldn't accept further bids. Lennon then met Steve Bruce at a golf event and told him brown was leaving and that put villa in picture. Rest is history. Bottom line, he had his chance and chose villa over us.

11 Oct 2025 21:08:45
Sorry,
I lost myself Ed.
I only had a couple of cans back at 7pm 🤦‍♂️😂.

{Ed007's Note - 😂😂😂

11 Oct 2025 22:19:09
The last thing I want yo think about, is the January window.

Having a chuckle at the FF meltdown over Slippy. I almost forgot we are nearly as exciting as reading a H&S manual.

12 Oct 2025 02:46:59
McGinn is a professional footballer. He is obviously going to join a club that pays the higher wages. Times gave changed fellow fans. He would be on far more money at Villa than with Celtic. Unfortunately that's the way it is.

12 Oct 2025 07:16:26
Thought this had lawell written all over it, lowball offer hibs knock it back mcginn on road for talks with villa lawell then matches hibs valuation too late he's at villa.

12 Oct 2025 09:38:40
Just because he is coming to the latter stages of his career, like Andy Robertson, these stories come out that they would love to play for Celtic.

If you live our club so much, come play for us when your in your peak and not declining, when at a certain age your choices are lower EPL team or Championship team.

The fact that some players think just because they have played at the top of the EPL, it doesn't mean when it's coming towards the end, your still good enough, and have some kind of right to play for Celtic, because your a fan.

12 Oct 2025 11:38:26
The old KT is the best left back I’ve seen in the last 40 years but he’s sadly not that same player.

My ticket for the Braga match was about 5 rows from the back of the Upper Stand and you can see things clearly.

There was an incident where KT had the chance to break through the ranks but he must’ve knew he never had the legs and he never attempted the run.
I was gutted because I knew then that KT was not that same player and everything is too slow and easy pass crap.

{Ed007's Note - Did you sit with your eyes closed for the 11 years Tam Boyd played for us?

12 Oct 2025 18:13:00
I loved a young KT but he currently couldn’t lace big Tam Boyd’s boots.

{Ed007's Note - I think Boyd gets overlooked by a lot of fans who forget or are obviously too young to remember how good he actually was.}

12 Oct 2025 19:15:56
Loved big tam what a player.

13 Oct 2025 09:17:38
Tomorrow Boyd was majestic on his day, had pace, cultured with both feet and loved a tackle, just a great defender.

10 Oct 2025 16:51:34
Celtic have NO CHANCE

According to the SMSM

That Bastion ( at least I think it said bastion lol) of football knowledge Kyle Lafferty has said Sevco will win title

We are all doomed.

10 Oct 2025 17:35:02
There’s a bit of hysteria on the go eh……. Hopefully if anything sparks a bit of togetherness on our side as we need it.

10 Oct 2025 20:24:03
The best part is they seem to think he is some sort of messiah because he stopped us from winning the 10, when in reality it was the Celtic hierarchy that stopped the 10. We beat ourselves that season.

He dropped them the like a hot potato for oil money, flopped massively and no one has went near him since because he's pish.

Now i do expect a bit of a resurgence under him at first but the best part is they will eventually start turning on him like they do with the rest. This one will bring long term pain for them which is brilliant.

Now this is obviously only possible if we sort out our own mess in the meantime as we can't afford to give them any momentum.

10 Oct 2025 23:49:05
In response mate. TBF. we are doing the exact same thing again. Do you trust this team to deliver 5?

11 Oct 2025 06:21:58
Absolutely, but only if the divisions weren't so obvious and team affecting .

In sevco new manager, people forgot the year before he won the league and Covid stopped play, it was stopped days before an ibrox derby, in which he was going to lose and it was a 5th loss in 9 games or something, he was on brink of sack and Covid saved him .

11 Oct 2025 10:31:36
You’re right Jaa,
Gerrard lost 5 games in 3 different competitions in the last 6 weeks before shutdown.

He lost 3 league games plus another 2 draws to go 13 points behind Celtic.
Sevco lost to Hearts in the Scottish Cup and also in Europe 3-1 at Ibrox.

The Ibrox pitch was a mud field which they ripped up before the end of the season was confirmed.
They were forced to put back a league match 24 hours because it rained on the Saturday and it was near impossible to play good football on the Ibrox surface.

11 Oct 2025 11:09:52
Compared to our board, Slippy will be nowhere near a threat to us.

The single biggest obstacle to us improving wear Celtic blazers and think they are doing a great job.

11 Oct 2025 20:49:28
He’s shat it anyway.

{Ed007's Note - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

11 Oct 2025 21:11:34
Class Jaa 😂.

12 Oct 2025 11:19:14
Can’t wait to get to work Monday and gaslight all the sevvies, act interested in the ongoings at ibrox and listen to there woes, simple things in life.