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12 Jul 2020 20:10:40
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12 Jul 2020 15:30:12
Ed please excuse my ignorance but exactly how to transfer deals work? The Wolfsberger president has come out publicly and said we have made a bid for Weismann, but if this was the case wouldn't it either be rejected or accepted. I appreciate that we may not have even made a bid and their president is trying to drum up interest.

{Ed002's Note - The scouting staff will prepare reports on players and provide an idea about price; coaches will look at the players but have no idea about price; they will go to a Director of Football (or perhaps a mix of the finance director and others responsible for the monies) and say we would like this player and we think he will cost £x. Checking against available budgets, the club will likely approach his agent to ask if the player might be interested in the move and a broad idea about the package the player would want, and any broad idea about what the club would want - and what terms they may be open to (cash up front, spread over a year etc.). This sits inside the overall transfer process which looks something like this:

The same way as any other club do. The process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally to negotiate about a transfer and even to the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve the showing of serious interest (perhaps through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak formally to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.

Alternatively, a selling club may ask an agent to find a new club for a player and he will talk directly to potential selling sides about the fee, personal terms and interest.

The rest of the time agents will be on fishing trips trying to find interest in their players.

In terms of what happens when the negotiations take place, broad agreement (player available and open to discussions, understanding of the price) will already have been reached. The clubs will meet to discuss the details of the transfer fee, other costs associated with the move and the structure of the payments and any additional fees (e.g another €5M for winning the Champions League etc.) but this does not take a "few days".}

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12 Jul 2020 09:02:05
Morning!

Hearing that Celtic are close to taking Daniel Podence on loan with view to a permanent deal from wolves. Wolves signed Podence from Olympiakos for 17mill in January but has not settled. Just passing On what's getting said. HH.

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12 Jul 2020 11:15:16
Would love it to be true but i don't think it will happen.

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12 Jul 2020 11:34:24
He's starting for wolves today so it looks like a non story.

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12 Jul 2020 11:48:59
Can't see it with Moi and Mikey on the left. Should be focusing our attention on other areas.

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12 Jul 2020 13:12:42
Lol he just won them the penalty at the end of the half.

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12 Jul 2020 13:14:55
Just read the club have already torpedoed this. People using our name to drum up interest again.

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12 Jul 2020 16:54:30
Brave micky johnstone never going to be a major player for celtic.

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12 Jul 2020 18:24:44
Kev83

Disagree about Mikey Johnson he will be first team pick by end of season. Only injuries will stop him. IMO.

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12 Jul 2020 19:11:33
100 % agree ninja what a talent!

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11 Jul 2020 21:57:24
the wolfsberger has confirmed we have put a bid on the table for weissman.

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11 Jul 2020 22:54:01
seems griff in bother as well.

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11 Jul 2020 23:14:50
aye kev looks that way no excuse not to be fit.

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12 Jul 2020 00:51:49
Love the wee man, but its getting too mutch.

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12 Jul 2020 06:59:03
Annoyed with Griffiths that's just unprofessional. There was nothing to do during lockdown no excuses. Lennon must be raging with him.

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12 Jul 2020 09:18:36
Haven't seen the stories re: Griff, but if its just a case of him coming back overweight I say cut the lad some slack: there's a C.V. on fer feck sake. We all know, surely, that its hard to deal with sometimes.

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12 Jul 2020 11:11:42
He's a professional athlete who gets paid a considerable amount of money to be in top condition. Lockdown is no excuse.

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12 Jul 2020 11:20:40
He was supported and encouraged by the club and the fans the whole time he was out . it's not asking much to come back from lockdown fit av got boys that have managed it and they do t have the facilities he's got. disgrace.

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12 Jul 2020 11:26:16
Cavalcanti
Why does Griffiths get a free pass because of C.V.?

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12 Jul 2020 11:43:53
Could be substance in it with the stories about Griffiths coming out. Silly of him not keeping in shape when you see Klimala putting on 3.5kg of muscle during the break only for Griffiths to come back overweight he's only going to fall down the pecking order again. Bayo doesn't look to be in the frame for a start so another striker is needed.

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12 Jul 2020 13:17:57
If it is true why should he get a free ride Cava?
Have the rest of the squad not been in lock down as well?
He's had time to make plenty Tik tok videos but can't stay in shape?

If its true and that is a big IF with the Scottish press then he deserves his baws booted.

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12 Jul 2020 13:42:44
Hi, Ninja67, Kev83 I'm not proposing a free pass or free ride. By all means boot his baws. I just feel that a certain amount of compassion might be in order, especially as he has a record of emotional or psychological difficulties. I don't know what these are--and I don't much care. I also think the support he has received from the club seems to have been superb.

I'm just saying these are trying times. The whole country is drinking more (and probably eating more too) . He does need to get with the program now, but so long as he does I'll be happy with that.

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12 Jul 2020 15:26:09
No excuses with the magnitude of next season to turn up out of shape. The clubs been good to him over the years with his troubles off field so he should have turned up in peak condition to make up for missing a big chunk of last season. Maybe he's injured and not been able to do a great deal of training from home who knows.

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12 Jul 2020 15:56:33
cava the club has stuck with griffiths through a lot of problems. Several of his own making like the refugee chats ect but it can't go on forever. Eventually they are going to say enough is enough.

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12 Jul 2020 17:33:20
Apparently the bid never happened ther using Celtic to start a bidding war.

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10 Jul 2020 19:04:53
We're supposed to have knocked back an offer from Milan for ajer.

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10 Jul 2020 19:28:10
Just seen that . Sky Italy reporting we knocked back an offer, have spoke to his agent to see if he would be interested in the move? Says celtic are looking for 27 million for ajer? Fair play if they get it lol but personally a don't think he is worth anywhere near that .

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10 Jul 2020 19:51:13
It is not what you think he is worth.

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10 Jul 2020 20:04:55
del bhoy he has a lot of potential and he will be a leader you can see the drive in the bhoy already a full international. a good season or two over there and he will be getting valued at 50 mill and so on. its about time wee made a stand and started demanding top dollar for our top players were a massive club and were right to demand it look at all our top stars that leave they go on to prove it in the so called big leagues. the days of our top stars leaving for pennies is over.

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10 Jul 2020 20:40:10
How is he not worth that. He's a regular Norwegian international with European experience and has 7 winners medals from the last 3 seasons. Damn right he's worth that.

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10 Jul 2020 20:50:02
Jeezo lads 🤣 a rate him possibly 12 -15 mill . He has potential but no where near vvd standard just yet . Still gets caught ball watching and out of position. Its all about opinion guys . That's mine.

{Ed007's Note - Ajer's a far better player than VVD was at 22.}

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10 Jul 2020 20:57:18
There's donkeys in engerlund being touted for money in excess of that.

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10 Jul 2020 21:26:10
When VVD came to us he was 22 with no caps, no European experience and had never won anything.
We just paid between 7 and 8 million no caps no European experience no medals.
A player of Ajers experience at his age is well worth that money in this market.

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10 Jul 2020 21:50:19
experience doesn't mean you are a better player.

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10 Jul 2020 22:02:51
I think 20million is top dollar if celtic can get 25million with a decent sell on then it's good deal. he's not going to be here forever and this time next summer he's a year less on his contract
Hard to sell a 1st team regular this close to the season starting but and with so much ahead.

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10 Jul 2020 22:13:08
Liam to buy that type of experience at that age from any other team from any other league you would expect to pay that sort of money at least. Look at guys like Stone going for 50 million. The full back man utd just sign from Palace after same age as Ajer less than 50 professional games. Double the price of KT and not any better.
Its about time we are getting proper money for these players.

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10 Jul 2020 22:30:50
i definitely get that point kev absolutely mate and we all want top dollar for any of our players that may be sold. to get that kind of money that's been mentioned for ajar would be some business. there a players out there for a fraction of the price that would be an improvement on ajar and i know i will get stick for saying that but my opinion for me julien is a far better defender and for 7million.

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10 Jul 2020 23:57:34
The reasons I've mentioned are why jullian was cheaper and truth be told I don't think he's that far ahead of Ajer. He isn't tough enough for me. Every team that plays us should be putting a heavy hitting centre forward against him.

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11 Jul 2020 01:09:13
Kris Ajer will be a top player in a few years and we are quite right to ask for top dollar!

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11 Jul 2020 01:50:09
I'd bite your hand off for that kind of money for Ajer. His development stalled last season for me.

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11 Jul 2020 04:45:30
Big Ajar is my favourite Celtic player.
I love his desire to win and the way he will celebrate his late tackles, like they are goals.
If he decides to stay at Celtic he will be our future Captain.
It would make a huge difference to Ajar’s game if he played on the right side of the defence. He is constantly played on the left side of a back 3 and he is always played on the left side when he is partnered up in the central defence in a back 4.
I hope he stays and Celtic buy a top class left footed CB and then we can utilise Ajar’s full potential on the right side of defence.
I loved it when he filled in at right back. His intelligence was exceptional, the way he would always play in a low ball straight to Edouard’s feet.

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11 Jul 2020 06:59:46
Stones 50m. Maguire 90m. Ajer is a better prospect than either of those.

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11 Jul 2020 07:08:21
Dont sell any of our top players would be my option. don't buy my season book to watch a bank balance.

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11 Jul 2020 10:26:24
ninja. its just the way we operate mate but i know what you mean some season we just have to knock all offers for big players back and keep the squad together and add 1 or 2 quality signings to kick on in Europe and keep dominating and some seasons big offers have to be accepted. every player has there price no matter what club you play for look at neymar one of barcas top players a 200 mill cheque was wrote and he was off.

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11 Jul 2020 10:32:35
I also love big ajers heart aswell there's no denying that. i actually prefer him at RB I've never seen him have a bad game there and his best game in a Celtic jersey for me was couple seasons ago in the mestalla he was the best player on the park.

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11 Jul 2020 14:31:54
Hope this American left sided cb have always said ajer better on right Pittodrie last season?

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11 Jul 2020 15:55:59
Agree Stones is always the example I use. Said at the time to my pub league supporting friends VVD was 10 times the player of Stones and we sold him far too cheap. Joelington is the example I use for Edouard. If true we've every right to slap £40m on Edouard he's worth every penny of it and sick of us losing our best players on the cheap only to see their value double after a season in a better league.

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11 Jul 2020 19:37:35
Kev your right about Julien he’s a big rubbishbag when up against any big centre forward. As for Ajer yes raw but that bhoy is going to be some player hope he stays.

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11 Jul 2020 19:57:55
julien has improved us massively at the back and he's the best thing to the finished product we will be able to get our hands on.

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11 Jul 2020 22:33:56
If Maguire (spelling) was playing up here, and if he was being offered at £9 million, people would be saying, no way is he worth that.
Him and Stones bring a new meaning to overpriced.

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11 Jul 2020 22:53:38
Feeck me aberdeen wanted 10 for that carthorse and people saying only 12 to 15 for ajer.

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12 Jul 2020 11:53:54
Cant understand why Ajer isn't rated higher on here. He is young and will make mistakes. I think his reaction to mistakes is top quality. He hurts and that will make him more determined to improve. Boyata plays for the number one ranked country in the world. Ajer is a far better footballer and will become a better defender. We will struggle to replace him.

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10 Jul 2020 11:55:07
A report has mentioned that Edouard could be changing his squad number to 7.
If true it would indicate that Edouard is signing a contract extension.
I think it was Kev who predicted this would happen months ago. 👍.

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10 Jul 2020 12:01:37
It was just a Twitter wind up.

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10 Jul 2020 12:27:48
I’ve just noticed that Mike.
Edouard is also number 22 for France U21s,
Maybe he is superstitious and hopefully he will still sign an extension.

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10 Jul 2020 12:56:03
First thing I checked on the pre-order for new top if they've changed his number!

I like the number 7 being vacant this early though, gives us a bit of hope for a marquee signing right up to deadline day. normally followed of course by #LawwellOut trending but last summer went well.

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10 Jul 2020 10:40:07
Is there anything in this USA defender being a target for Celtic?

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10 Jul 2020 11:11:39
Apparently yes left footed centre back but can play left back aswell bags of pace and strong good in the tackle being said serve bid between 1-2 million looks a good signing if true being labelled as a wonder kid.

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10 Jul 2020 12:15:05
Like the name of his first senior club. Bethlehem lol.

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10 Jul 2020 13:51:33
Is going to be in the same position as the 2 FBs we have that can't get work permits?

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10 Jul 2020 14:13:10
He's younger so that might work out well with the permit I hope we get this boy he looks good but would prefer the boy from psg tanguy kouassi.

{Ed007's Note - Tanguy Kouassi has signed for Bayern Munich.}

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10 Jul 2020 15:02:09
That's a shame thought we woul try get him cheers for the info ed.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

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10 Jul 2020 17:45:50
Is he the guy you mentioned Ed when the rumour about Sissako was about? Sure you'd mentioned him being the better prospect of the 2. Clearly must been if Bayern have poached him.

{Ed007's Note - Yes mate I think it was him.}

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10 Jul 2020 19:16:19
Them bloody Germans are poaching all the good prospects lol.

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10 Jul 2020 20:43:20
The boy fae American has recently been capped so wed probably get a work permit on appeal I would think.

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10 Jul 2020 09:53:08
Darryl Currie and another well respected journo saying we are definitely working on a deal for big fraz.

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10 Jul 2020 12:12:35
The story I'm hearing is that our offer is already on the table. Forster's first choice is to play in the EPL, that's why he left after all, be it at Southampton or somewhere else. If that doesn't happen, he'll be back up the road.

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10 Jul 2020 12:59:03
If that's the case, I would much prefer a 'keeper who's first choice is 100% Celtic; no second thoughts, regrets, doubts or distractions.

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10 Jul 2020 13:20:33
We can’t hang about for Forster to see what options he has. Our season starts in 3 weeks and we need a first choice keeper. Bain is a good back up for me but not a number 1. I’d love us to sign big Forster but if he’s dragging his heels we need to move on.

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11 Jul 2020 10:12:00
What we need to do is put a time limit on our offer if we haven't already. Sign by. Or deal off and we move on.

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07 Jul 2020 21:50:51
I have seen a post on Instagram about Celtic making a move for Balotelli if Edouard moves on. Surely this was just a click bait post, or does anyone know if there is any truth in it?

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07 Jul 2020 22:12:34
No chance mate bull sting.

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07 Jul 2020 22:13:57
Guys had his problems and a lot of em but on hi day is an amazing player maybe Lennon couldfix his bad attitude and get him playing again remember reading sumfin years ago that mourinho said he had the talent to be the best in the world.

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07 Jul 2020 22:45:15
Wouldn't want him anywhere near our team terrible attitude one of the laziest players I've ever watched don't rate him one single bit. Way to big a risk to take especially this season.

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08 Jul 2020 00:39:06
Can you imagine it. balotelli being moulded by the man management maestro that's Lenny. you would spot the fallout from the Shetlands. Catastrophic comes to mind. I say get him signed for the pyros.

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08 Jul 2020 12:12:43
He's the ladt thing we need he would single handededly derail the 10.

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08 Jul 2020 14:29:15
Him and Joe Hart.

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08 Jul 2020 20:56:23
My friends Enrico is very frustrated with mario he could have done great things in his career but for one reason or another it hasn’t worked out. He is a good lad but has issues.

Not for Celtic I am afraid and like some of the guys say it is far to big and important season ahead.

Enrico now back from walking his dogs and it is now time for glass of grape juice 🍷.

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09 Jul 2020 05:35:15
Firstly I can't see this happening.

Top player on his day and he'd rip our league a new one but obviously comes with too much baggage.

But when we're also being linked with Fulham's second choice goalkeeper and wingers from Tranmere, I'd have him in a heart beat 😂.

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10 Jul 2020 00:29:57
Balotelli has seen Paree, there is no way you can keep him down on the farm, he is now a waste of space, he is not as good as he thinks he is, but better than everyone else thinks he is, but football is a simple game, once you master the minimum of the simple bits, you succeed by mastering the dedication and the commitment and self sacrifice, Balotellis head can't figure that out.

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