Celtic Rumours Archive January 31 2019

 

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31 Jan 2019 22:56:59
Mulumbu. Commper. Gamboa. De Vries. (Hayes? Allen? Hendry? )

These seem to be the worst sort of signings in retrospect: reactionary impulse-buys. But did they get a fair shake?

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31 Jan 2019 23:21:22
Hendry will improve and play a part for us
Hayes was unlucky with the leg break and being up against our best attacking player in Sinclair
The rest were just not right for one reason or another.
In Allen we sent a better player on loan to hibs in young Henderson.

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31 Jan 2019 23:25:35
Hayes was rotten before leg break. Really failed to impress against Linfield slippery slope from there.

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01 Feb 2019 00:11:10
Footballs not as simple as being a good or bad player.

For me Hayes would never suit our style. He likes to go wide and cross balls in. We don't play like that, bizarre signing.

De Vries was simply terrible.

Gamboa had a hard time tbh, given games once every few months. Sometimes against world class sides then judged on it

Mulumbu would suit a Strachan style side. Strict positioning etc. Rodgers style requires a lot of movement and more agility in the midfield. Shame cos he's no as bad as people make out.

Hendry is just terrible. Compper injuries make it impossible. Allan. Who knows what that was about.

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01 Feb 2019 01:54:35
Most of these guys would have done well in other Celtic teams but if you look at the players they’re trying to compete with, it’s a hard gig to break into that team. While they remain at the club, they still give us value as strength in depth and keep the first team players on toes.

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01 Feb 2019 02:58:31
Kev I don’t post as much as I want to on here cos you generally post what I’m thinking 1st. But in this case I disagree I’d love Hendry to come good bit he’s a project that hasn’t and won’t work out just not good enough. Hayes is another who would probably run through a brick wall for us but in fairness so would I if I had the chance another not good enough.
Happy with the window tho never saw Burke as a no9 but that’s only from what I read of the bhoy but think he could do us a turn their prefer to see eddy in behind he’s got that killer pass in his locker. Weah looks a player but not as a lone striker. Agreed with you all along on sinky people don’t seem to see the overall contrite brings to the team
All in all up front we’ve got players far superior to the rest and as for our weak defence can anyone name an spl player we would have in place of any of them?
Here we go 10iar.

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01 Feb 2019 07:18:11
Welshy Jack Hendry has only been here a short time and was hung out to dry this season. Ye he is raw but he does have the attributes to improve.

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01 Feb 2019 08:13:09
Tesla you have contradicted yourself regarding Hendry. End of the day he needs more game time and at start of season it was looking likely Christie would be away but look what happened there.

Hendry needs a loan spell to get regular top flight football as he has potential. Personally I think he is a better option than Scott mckenna.

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01 Feb 2019 09:14:12
If you look at Hendry’s performance in the Aberdeen game at CP in Sept, he’s got all the hallmarks of a top quality CB. I think he’ll develop.

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01 Feb 2019 09:52:17
Hendry is still young and has plenty of good attributes but needs time to mature and needs to be playing each week to learn from the mistakes. CB’s don’t often peek in their early 20’s, Hendry could do with playing with a team like Aberdeen for 18months.

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01 Feb 2019 09:56:58
In the past I was a Hendry fan because I felt he looked comfortable on the ball and central defenders improve by age and experience.
Now I believe that Hendry can't do basic defending.
Against partick thistle in the cup he ran beside the goalscorer without as much as a challenge. He then found himself out of the squad for the next 5 games and then 1 game after that he was an unused sub. In those 6 matches Celtic conceded only 1 goal which was away from home in europe.
At that time Celtic looked quite comfortable at the back, then comes the killie away game where Brendan made a few changes.
Hendry comes in from the wilderness and in my opinion caused the 2 goals we conceded because he can't do basic defending.
When burke scored the equaliser hendry refused to try and close him down and gave him a free pop at goal and then the winner he lost the goalscorer he was marking at a corner.
As I said before I could see potential because he is good on the ball but the boy can't defend and you can't teach those basic defending skills like tackle, close down your opponent and don't easily lose your man at a set piece.
From that day I knew Hendry was not going to make it at Celtic which is unfortunate.

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01 Feb 2019 10:05:18
Where have I contradicted myself?

He had a fair run of games and was hopeless. Why do you think he's our last choice CB right now? Even Rodgers said he needs to develop more.

He's not 18 either, he's almost 24 in a few months. So when will he be ready? 27?

As for Christie, I never said Christie was a bad player. I actually always said Christie was a good player even before his loan to Aberdeen.

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01 Feb 2019 11:05:05
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Footballs not as simple as being a good or bad player. "

Well Tesla if your saying that do you not think Hendry deserves a chance of regular football on a loan spell considering fact he has only played a grand total of 70 professional first team games in his whole career at age 24? Surely you will agree he is inexperienced at age 24 and a loan spell to a team like Aberdeen would do him well?

Was using Ryan Christie as an example of how successful his loan spell was.

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01 Feb 2019 12:11:49
I don't and can't see at any time that Hendry will come good yes he has had one decent game but that's it I am sure he is 23? So not really a young man as far as a footballer is concerned I am sure he is a good lad but not a good enough player for us I really hope he can prove me wrong.

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01 Feb 2019 13:15:56
Tony2bhoy he is not going to come good unless he gets game time. Also most CB come good at 26/ 28 so he still has time on his hands.

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01 Feb 2019 16:10:56
IMO Hayes isn’t good enough for Celtic.

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01 Feb 2019 18:55:31
There are many Celtic fans who think nobody playing for other club in Spl are good enough for Celtic . There are also many Celtic fans with the benefit of hindsight love to say many players Celtic had signed were not good enough . It is easy to decide afterwards but I am sure our recruitment staff felt that if things worked out everyone could do a job . Injuries, loss of form, not able to adjust to big club, all can affect new players . It's a bit of a gamble with most transfers but if the new player gets off to a good start, they usually come good.

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01 Feb 2019 19:58:34
I would partly agree Hibsboy, Hayes isn’t good enough for this Celtic team but in a different era he’d have gotten into the team and done well. Hendry is a different proposition. He’s young and needs to gain experience. How many of us thought Ryan Christie would be a first choice AM when he came back from Aberdeen? I think we should be careful with Hendry as we should have been with Andy Robertson when we had him.

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01 Feb 2019 20:28:29
It's got nothing to do with him being from SPL for me.

I liked Hartley, Robson, McDonald etc

Hendry looks like he's a long way from being ready. Mentally he looks like playing for a big club intimidates him

He's replying to people criticising him on Facebook.

No room for being a snowflake at a club of this size. If you play poor you should be told and criticised.

That's why we are a big club.

We could try and develop hendry in next couple of seasons, but why?

We can easily attract a player twice his ability. It's to our detriment waiting for inferior players to catch up.

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03 Feb 2019 09:53:05
I thought mulumbu done well in games I seen him, away to red bull in particular (I think) he was our only midfielder who won a tackle n passed it well.

Probably the right option v them in January as well tbh. Allan seemed like a Rodgers type player, guess its hard when 2 out of 3 spots in mf are taken wi Broon n calmac so only 1 spot up for grabs for the other 4 CMs.

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03 Feb 2019 10:53:49
If, as has been suggested, Mulumbu was the dressing room tout who was telling stories to Fatman Kris Boyd then I'm glad he has gone. Obviously I have no definite knowledge and am commenting only on the rumour which may be right or wrong.
He did look like a talented lad when he was at Killie though and I had hoped he could have brought something a bit different to our side. Obviously he won't play against us for the rest of the season so I hope he can do some damage to the sides around us in the league. HH.

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31 Jan 2019 22:52:02
Jeremy Toljan in
Mulumbu out.
Miller out.

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31 Jan 2019 23:05:41
Do you know if there is an option to buy Kev?

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31 Jan 2019 23:11:05
Don't no bud. But here's the thing even if there is no option to buy it doesn't mean we can't bid for them if We want to.

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31 Jan 2019 23:26:59
Let’s see what he’s like first before we start throwing money at him.

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31 Jan 2019 22:48:00
Toljan signed, just announced on official celtic twitter.

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31 Jan 2019 20:15:11
Celtic website says manny pèrez and gutman have both signed and gone back to USA to develop. Thought Gutman had gone AWOL?

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31 Jan 2019 20:27:33
Someone found out he was on a flight to American and never researched it right.

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31 Jan 2019 20:30:17
Something doesn't seem right with this.

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31 Jan 2019 20:40:23
What clubs are they getting loaned too?

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31 Jan 2019 20:43:20
delstarr76, what isn't right is the way some so-called fans react to news when it comes out. Gutman never said he wasn't coming, the club never said he wasn't coming, it was the hit whoring media who spun a story and some people lapped it up. HH.

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31 Jan 2019 21:19:29
What doesn't seem right 2 promising young players sign and we loan them back. not exactly unheard of.

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31 Jan 2019 21:30:50
Bob 2 days ago gutman was AWOL and now all is well weird how a lot reported he was gone and now turns up again.

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31 Jan 2019 21:51:24
delstarr, who said he was AWOL? Did our club say it? Did he say he was going and not returning?
The fact that he was being loaned back to his US club anyway suggests there was no need for him to hang around in Glasgow. And the fact that Celtic chose to wait until today to make the announcement is no big deal. HH.

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31 Jan 2019 22:09:20
The press either getting it wrong or just telling blatant lies seems strange to you delstarr?

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31 Jan 2019 22:37:55
In the papers and on here as well. So this is what we have become, sign 2 Unknown’s and send one to Nashville fc and god knows who. The team needs a boost now not next year or the year after.

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31 Jan 2019 22:40:23
Its an Iran-contra sort of thing. Sell him to us, ship him out to Caracas in a celtic foundation t-shirt. Buy some kitsch Maduro miniatures with the proceeds. Everyone's a winner.

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31 Jan 2019 22:42:23
Kev in Scotland that just doesn’t happen.

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31 Jan 2019 22:48:25
Is this what we've become?
So now you have a problem with Celtic buying up good promising players and loaning them out for experience. Like every big team in the world does?

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31 Jan 2019 22:59:40
Have you seen them play. Or just YouTube what do you know now about them.

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01 Feb 2019 00:13:13
Gutman was not AWOL and the shved deal was done weeks ago

Lawwell told them to leave and return on deadline day.

To make the end of the window look better.

Don't believe me then check my post from days ago. It's exactly what I said he was AWOL for. Ed can confirm if yous look back.

Terrible tactics from Lawwell.

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01 Feb 2019 01:14:06
Seems to be the business model of lots of big clubs, get some promising young players in whilst at a lower value and loan them out for some experience.

Quite happy with this window tbh.

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31 Jan 2019 20:11:25
Both Americans have signed but both being loaned to American teams.

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31 Jan 2019 21:52:27
Do you know What teams?

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31 Jan 2019 23:35:36
Read the American blogs it's all there, it's not a big deal, what's the problem with loaning people out for experience? Look at Ajer and Christie. stop being such bloody snobs.

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31 Jan 2019 18:35:40
Jeremy Toljan Done Deal Loan until end of season no option to buy.

Celtic have approached Man City about an 18 Month Loan deal for Philip Sandler.

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31 Jan 2019 18:59:15
Sound 👀.

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31 Jan 2019 19:22:46
We will see.

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31 Jan 2019 19:23:00
Where are you getting the info? The report I read said there is a buy option.

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31 Jan 2019 19:24:45
@Daithi94 show us the contracts, both usual gossip from twatter.

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31 Jan 2019 19:30:38
Where has the Sandler link come from?

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31 Jan 2019 19:56:19
On sky sayin agreement reached between clubs n toylan will b here, hear he can play right and left back, n if he's at dortmund i wid assume he must b decent. let's get behind him even if its only for 6 months or whatever hh.

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31 Jan 2019 19:57:18
Jonbhoy there have been conflicting reports all day say there is and there isn't.

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31 Jan 2019 22:55:50
Shved confirmed on a 4 and a half year deal. HH

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31 Jan 2019 17:58:47
According to reports, Toljan deal done👍.

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31 Jan 2019 18:14:35
But he's going to Napoli?

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31 Jan 2019 18:20:38
Permanent or loan?

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31 Jan 2019 18:59:28
Can’t be right, Rich T said he wasn’t coming.

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31 Jan 2019 19:04:48
His current club on wickepedia is Celtic.

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31 Jan 2019 19:24:33
I could go into wiki and change his club to Whitburn juniors.

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31 Jan 2019 19:36:38
Go and do it now then jon.

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{Ed007's Note - Anyone - usually it's some kind of simple idiot that does that stuff with players etc - can edit Wikipedia, if you look now it has been changed back to Dortmund.}

31 Jan 2019 20:46:55
Not Whitburn Juniors.

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31 Jan 2019 20:47:52
What's the point in 6 month loans. its pathetic.

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31 Jan 2019 21:47:51
Gedceltic
The boys page has now been locked but have a look a Morelas page.
All you need to do is log into your wiki account then got to a page and hit EDIT.

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01 Feb 2019 00:08:02
Already been changed back.

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31 Jan 2019 17:01:18
Broony signs 2 year deal 👍👍.

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31 Jan 2019 17:49:02
Great for Broony and Celtic, Toljan is a done deal according to German press.

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31 Jan 2019 17:52:38
Absolutely delighted he has agreed a deal.

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31 Jan 2019 18:21:18
Permanent deal?

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31 Jan 2019 19:21:53
Proba ly just a loan.

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31 Jan 2019 14:25:41
The ss have turned down a 5mill bid from stoke for McKenna sly saying they want 8mill.

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31 Jan 2019 15:26:08
If ever there was proof that the money has gone mental in the world of football it's that statement.

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31 Jan 2019 15:50:04
Exactly. They're asking 6million too much for him. Donkey.

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31 Jan 2019 16:11:55
Totally agree about the guy - and I'm relieved we never followed up reported interest as he never impressed against us so far.
However, I do agree with Scottish clubs holding out for as much as possible from clubs with more money than sense and whose valuations and market has gone raj-bongo with crazy fees for average tat.

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31 Jan 2019 16:37:53
Basically wee will be priced out even players in Scotland now once a boy the lunatics run the asylums now.

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31 Jan 2019 17:12:27
A report saying Stoke and Aberdeen have agreed 7m for McKenna.

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31 Jan 2019 18:13:40
There is a difference between being priced out and saying he's not worth that and we ain't paying it.

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31 Jan 2019 12:14:58
Reports say the RB from Dormin not coming in.

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31 Jan 2019 13:49:20
What reports?

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31 Jan 2019 14:31:46
No doubts from the Main Stren Scottish Media.

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31 Jan 2019 14:38:23
Off to Napoli is the rumours, Transfer office is now closed.

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31 Jan 2019 15:10:14
Report I read said Napoli were interested, I guess to some that means they are signing him.

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31 Jan 2019 15:33:15
Obviously. why would he pick us over Napoli if that was the case?

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31 Jan 2019 16:10:49
Plenty reasons tesla. Game time the main one.

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31 Jan 2019 17:18:59
Napoli have been interested for about a year and still havnt signed him. All they are doing is keeping tabs on him which means nothing.

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31 Jan 2019 09:00:24
Celtic hoping to tie up a loan deal with Dortmund for Toljan with an initial £1.2 loan fee and then potentially paying £4Million in the summer

Also hearing Celtic have had a bid rejected for Reece Oxford of West Ham Celtic were hoping to have him in on loan to cover Benkovic.

Overall it seems it will be the Ukrainian and Toljan to be announced today with Morgan Hayes and Mulumbu leaving all on loan deals.

Also expect Brown to be announced on Friday that he has signed a 2year deal.

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31 Jan 2019 10:16:38
He's training with Dortmund this morning.

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31 Jan 2019 10:46:49
Keeping himself fit for Sunday.

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31 Jan 2019 10:51:28
Aye and the same window Robbie Keane was training with spurs that morning before he joined Celtic too.

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31 Jan 2019 11:10:42
Seems we have people in Germany so it doesn't matter if he's training.

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31 Jan 2019 11:18:37
I’m in work this morning but that doesn’t stop me accepting a job somewhere else in the afternoon does it.

Apparently we have representatives in Germany trying to push the deal over the line. This boy would be a real get for us. The type of player that will take us forward. ED have you heard anything this morning?

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{Ed007's Note - Nothing different from what's out there already.}

31 Jan 2019 13:41:51
So no rb then.

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