Celtic Banter Archive August 13 2018

13 Aug 2018 21:10:02
ED, sorry in advance with this.

Cue hand grenade.

I don't think we will sign a single player of any significance with the official statement being we couldn't attract the quality we want and did not want to sign more fringe players. On top of that Boyata will be off (Not that that bothers most of us tbh) .

Secondly, we could win tomorrow, but we wont.

Sorry guys, just being realistic.

13 Aug 2018 21:35:01
If we defend like we have of late we have no chance and we have to show a bit of heart because we've crumpled away from home in some big games . but here's hoping we show up.

13 Aug 2018 21:40:07
Shug: who says we need to win tomorrow. 2-2.

{Ed007's Note - A couple of my mates have bet on that, Peter.}

13 Aug 2018 21:48:50
This is true Peter. However Greek stadiums are intimidating, noisy places. They will have a 12th man, they will sit in knowing we can't break them down now and its to be 34degrees in the shade. Its no happening.

{Ed007's Note - AEK are building a new stadium so the game is getting played in the 70k capacity Olympic Stadium, AEK's average attendance is less than 10,000.
The stadium will be like a ghost town tomorrow night.}

13 Aug 2018 21:50:36
How do you think it will go youself Ed? I think going over there and really going for it suits us. Hoping for an Anderlecht type performace. No fear just all out attack. We have better players.

{Ed007's Note - I'm going for a 2-1 win. McGregor to open the scoring and Hendry gets the second from a corner :)

13 Aug 2018 22:39:39
Ha ed I said today 2-1 with Hendry 1st scorer. He seems to get near quite a lot of the set plays that make it in to the box. He's due to connect just right with one.

13 Aug 2018 22:54:38
A goal from a corner? Is that even allowed for us? If we ever needed a victory it us tomorrow. I hope the team realise what it means for the club and fight for it. If they don’t we lose a fortune and the transfers will not be of the quality Rogers list no doubt contained. If we fall, so must Lawell. We are up against it because he isn’t half as good as his own PR when it comes to taking us up a level. He dithers and loses.

I’m confident we will give it a go. I’m not as confident we will succeed. I fear a sloppy defensive mistake will be our undoing. But if we play as we know we can, we can do it. It’s time to stand up and be counted for the manager and Rogers. Let’s hope they manage it.

14 Aug 2018 00:09:15
If we come out firing we will qualify. They looked honking at Celtic park and they don't score that many goals. We just need to cut out the crap dictate the game how we want to play it like we did away to Anderlecht and bury the many chances we will create. Sounds easy doesn't it?

14 Aug 2018 00:16:56
Celtic to score from a set piece Ed. That’s a brave shout.

13 Aug 2018 22:19:55
I may even stick some money on it mate. Hendry has been close a few times he could have had a couple last season in the midweek game v Dundee. Hope you are right.

14 Aug 2018 06:13:34
You do realise that the ball has to actually get in the box to score from a corner! Our corners are atrocious, and as bad I can remember them ever being! This would be a tough game to go into with a defence on top form, but to go in with the one we’ll have to play tonite gives me no confidence whatsoever! Hendry and simonovic aren’t good enough, it’s quite simple really! Hope I’m wrong and will gladly take pelters if I am, but just can’t see us coming through this with those 2 at centre half!

14 Aug 2018 08:58:25
Alright lads good luck in Greece make Scottish football proud but it will be dificult as for Rodgers as far as am concerned he is being shafted big time and boyata punt him get a new centre back and right ba k for the money.

14 Aug 2018 08:59:15
Also what about that lad at Dundee caulker a think.

14 Aug 2018 09:18:36
First goal for us is vital. If we go behind its going to be very difficult. Get first goal and its game on.

13 Aug 2018 22:19:48
Ed I would love big Hendry to get the winner for us. It is annoying with so many jumping on this Bhoys back. He has it, just needs time and more experience.

13 Aug 2018 22:26:39
Very specific ed 😀 have u heard anything about eddy being injured? Ma mate gets sent the teams all the time n it's always right, he said the boy that sends the teams has said edouard is out and griff will be starting.

{Ed007's Note - I've heard it from a few folk too, Steph but there's always these rumours before big games.}

14 Aug 2018 08:35:13
McGregor 1st goal 2-1 win is 60/ 1 Ed. Decent.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

13 Aug 2018 20:38:32
Away win tomorrow night, Moussa new deal Wednesday. One can dream!

13 Aug 2018 22:56:57
Moussa won’t start. Edouard said to be doubtful and Ntcham linked with Porto. Boyata refuses to play. The MSM are doing all in their power to undermine us. We should use that as motivation to part their balls.

14 Aug 2018 07:54:23
Unfortunately that's just the way it is MP and won't ever change. Everytime we have a have a game this month a player will be linked away. Just read the Ntcham story on Newsnow, saying his agents have told Porto he will be sold if we lose tonight. Some of it you just have to laugh at.

13 Aug 2018 18:50:10
Did someone say game was on BT the Moro night? Can't see it on the listings🤔.

13 Aug 2018 18:56:04
Aye bt sports 2 I think 7pm ko.

13 Aug 2018 19:03:41
BT2 mate.

13 Aug 2018 19:09:20
I think it was only announced late afternoon yesterday Stevie.

13 Aug 2018 19:26:06
Chèers lads must be Virgin not updating their listings.

13 Aug 2018 19:37:44
It’s been on Sky listings for a while now but remember it’s an early kick off!

{Ed007's Note - You're joking! What time's kick-off, I've got Mass at 7 bells.....

13 Aug 2018 20:24:42
7 bells kick off ed.

{Ed007's Note - Ah bollocks :(

13 Aug 2018 20:58:47
Sorry Ed I never answered because I thought you were being sarcastic. Still reckon you might be haha.

{Ed007's Note - No lol I'm serious. Wednesday's the Feast of the Assumption so it's either go to the Vigil tomorrow or I need to be up early on Wednesday and I'm not an early riser.}

13 Aug 2018 21:05:56
I'm sure you'll have a link on the phone ed lol.

{Ed007's Note - That'd go down well lol.}

13 Aug 2018 21:23:11
Sure the big man will forgive you. Just break out the emergency beads and rattle out a few Hail Mary's before the game.

{Ed007's Note - He might forgive me but my mum won't.}

13 Aug 2018 22:42:04
Surely your priest will want to see the game?

{Ed007's Note - He can't just cancel a Holiday of Obligation Mass because Celtic are olaying lol.}

13 Aug 2018 16:40:59
Well ED and Everyone else, i owe you an apology. If Brown is out for the old firm, McGinn would have been perfect.

13 Aug 2018 17:15:05
Apology should be coming from the board if as has been reported mcginn was one of the gaffer main targets.

13 Aug 2018 17:20:19
Just watched the incident with Brown. Never an elbow, more of a clothes line I think they call it in the WWF. 😂 Seriously though huge difference between that and an elbow, an elbow your arm is bent and can cause serious injury. Naismith never even felt it cos you can guarantee he would of went down like a sack o spuds if there was anything in it.

13 Aug 2018 17:42:58
Brendan95, missing out on McGinn will prove to be our Board's biggest feck up in a very long time. It is akin to a striker having the ball on the opponents goal line, no-one near him, and he scoops it out of the whole flippin stadium. HH.

13 Aug 2018 18:12:54
I wish people would think of something other than McGinn to post about. He's gone, it's done get over it 😴.

13 Aug 2018 18:21:57
I don't think SB will have anything to answer for IMO more so when some one is caught kicking out at another player and receiving a yellow card in another game Naismith on the other hand I really can't see him going unpunished I also read a story that it was the BBC that reported the incident with SB to the SFA If that story is correct it would just show how bad this country really is.

13 Aug 2018 18:26:21
No further action will be taken against Broony or rat-face according Scottish news report.

13 Aug 2018 18:31:42
No case to answer for both Brown and Naiclass.

13 Aug 2018 18:40:04
It was a classic clothes line to be fair to Broony he should of followed up with a drop kick to the throat then pinned him for 3 🤣.

13 Aug 2018 14:23:05
I'd have prefered Mulgrew at CB this last year rather than Jozo and Boyata. Could have covered at LB for KT and in Midfield if needed. Always put a decent ball into the box, always attacked the ball well and also hit a mean freekick. Should never have been allowed to leave.

13 Aug 2018 14:37:18
Was also part of, if not the leader of, the anti RD cabal.

13 Aug 2018 14:37:37
Should never have been allowed to sign!
As slow as death. Great left foot but has almost no technical ability when the balls moving. He’d be brilliant at that walking football.

13 Aug 2018 15:05:23
A stand out for Blackburn every game by having no ability 😂 and there's me thinking the leader was someone from this page.

13 Aug 2018 15:18:15
A stand out in league one doesn't make him good enough to play for us.

13 Aug 2018 15:48:14
Did you ever watch him when he played for Celtic? How many times have we seen players do well in England but fail up here?

We have to scout players based on their performances for other teams. In Mulgrew’s case we don’t have to, we saw first hand how poor he is.

It’s frightening that you identify him as a way to improve our defence.

13 Aug 2018 15:51:54
I lost count of the amount of times he tried his wonder balls across the pitch only to put it straight out. He wasn’t good enough for us two years ago.

13 Aug 2018 16:07:41
Read my post properly. At no point did i say go sign CM. My post said i would rather him than either JS or DB this last year.

We can sign players for being a stand out in the Scottish championship but not league 1, although now playing in the Championship. Ah that made me laugh thank you.

13 Aug 2018 16:07:57
How does it not? We have signed players from poor teams in the past Scunthorpe, Notts Forest, Dundee etc.
Surely it’s based on players ability and not what they play against each week. If that’s the case we may as well shut the doors cause we play against poor teams so that means all our players are rubbishe.

VVD strutted the SPL and he’s doing the same down south because he had the ability.
Wanyama, Forster, Ledley all good players who have went from a poor league in most people’s eye to doing good elesewhere.

We sign people for their ability not the league they play in. If Mulgrew can hold his own, score goals and be an important players against average opposition he could do it back in Scotland.

Would I want big Charlie back, it’s lazy scouting and not progressive so no, but could he do a job. Yes.

13 Aug 2018 16:23:26
Well said Jsean. Atleast you are able to read properly.

13 Aug 2018 16:30:48
I wish we had taken a chance on Charlie Austin when he was playing in the lower Leagues. Would have come up here and got 30+ a season. These players are learning their trade against adults not being pampered.

13 Aug 2018 11:45:25
Right regardiing tomorrow night we're still in this from midfield up we're way ahead of Athens but we all know our defence is gash kt exception so we have to keep it tight (stating the obvious a know) But for 90 mins surely our cbs can cut out the mistakes. and jozo every bit as bad as Jack he gave the ball away 3 times In dangerous areas against hearts but we can score so come on bhoys we can do it but I'll be behind the couch way ma beer obviously.

{Ed007's Note - Oh aye, AEK must be bricking it to face Rogic and Forrest again lol

13 Aug 2018 13:29:12
We can beat them if we turn up, not too sure we will though. They need to regroup and dig deep. Defensive ballsups again on Saturday with Jozo and Hendry does not make for a calm disposition. That aligned to an awol midfield creating jack, is also a great worry.

I shall hope we get it right, but it’s hard to feel a great deal of confidence after Saturday where apart from KT, they all played badly. The worst thing is AEK aren’t that good.

13 Aug 2018 14:20:47
In all honesty, Sinclair, Forrest, Griffiths and big Eddy have been nowhere near top form in the last 2/ 3 games and although Rogic turned it on against Livingston, he was off the pace in the AEK game.
We really need them all to be up for this and show much more fight, determination and desire than went on at Gorgie Road.
I would really like to see Eddy and Griff play-off each other, but I realize BR will go with one up front because of the 'fear factor' and jittery defense. However, we are out as it stands and need at least one goal and probably more, so we need to play to our strengths and that has to be attacking play, with Olly and Broony protecting.

13 Aug 2018 16:50:24
SPL form is no indication of European form .
If B R does what BR is good at then Saturday's form and many changes will just be a memory . A reverse before European game often gives the bhoys a wee edge.

13 Aug 2018 18:29:36
I'd start with this tomorrow and if we really chasing then bring on Sinky, Lustig for Gamboa so he can play CB and have Forrest and KT as RWB/ LWB and Rogic in behind Moose and Edouard in a 3-4-1-2

Gordon,
Gamboa Hendry, Jozo, KT
Brown, Ntcham
Forrest, McGregor, Edouard
Dembele.

13 Aug 2018 11:11:53
Does anybody know what's happened with Gamboa? i thought he was starting to perform a bit better, especially after Rosenberg away where their entire attack came down his side. I'm not saying he's been brilliant, but im a bit surprised he's been dropped out of the squad completely?

{Ed007's Note - Gamboa picked up a knock in training the tail end of last week.}

13 Aug 2018 11:26:32
Cheers Ed, was hoping that it was something to do with an injury, was hoping to see him get a run of games and maybe find a bit of form. The boy has scary pace, think if he got a run of games he could be a revelation (could be wishful thinking)

{Ed007's Note - I still think he could move on before the window closes but the English window closing early cuts down a lot of possibilities for him.}

13 Aug 2018 12:36:10
A fair comment as he's already said plenty times he'd like to sign long term. Lots of more serious matters to attend to, immedietly.

{Ed007's Note - I'm sure it'll happen, Stan.}

13 Aug 2018 08:59:23
So much doom and gloom bhoys. We are still in the CL i have every faith we will score at least twice tomorrow. We are a better team than AEK with better players. We will win the league at a canter as we have the best squad in Scotland by a country mile and yes we will lose again this year. We will sign more players in the next 3 weeks who will strengthen the team. Mcginn was a squad player at best, rat boyata is a bomb scare and will go. Don't know why everyone has their knickers in a twist. going to be another great Celtic year so what if we have a couple of glitches. HH 3 to go till 10 in a row.

13 Aug 2018 09:43:41
Calm down Mmi that's too positive a post for on here, You'll take Pelters for that one 🤣.

13 Aug 2018 10:40:25
MMi. I know we will win the league, that's not really the issue.
The issue is whether the club backs the managers judgement or not. For what he has achieved these last 2 seasons, I think he has earned the right to the boards backing.
Most posters on here have been saying for a long time that our defence needs strengthening yet we have reached a stage where we are having to play important Champions league qualifiers with young inexperienced centre defenders. This is why we have got into difficulties in this tie. These problems could and should have been rectified months ago.
I don't look on this view as being negative, I look on it as just stating the obvious.
I never quite understand why wanting the team to improve is seen by some as being negative, whereas being happy with the team standing still or going backwards is seen by these same people to be a positive.
It's a funny old world.

13 Aug 2018 11:06:05
So you believe The reason we've got into difficulties in the tie is because of the young inexperienced central defenders Gerry? Nothing to do with our creative players not managing to break down their defence more than once?

13 Aug 2018 11:30:52
Stevie the goal we conceded was poor Lustig made a hash of it then ajer let his man run free.
The goal we lost to Rosenborg started when Hendry misplaced a forward pass.
We scored 3 times against Rosenborg, and we were 1 up when we lost the goal to AEK so the creative players are doing their jobs, if we had won 1-0 we would be in a very good position, it's these defensive lapses which are making life difficult for us.

{Ed007's Note - We then failed to score in Norway, scored one goal against a poor Greek team with 10 men and didn't score any at Tynecastle. 3 goals against Livingston isn't exactly performance of the year material is it?
Our lack of goals, even last season, seems to be overlooked and the defence gets the blame for everything, we should have created a lot more and scored another couple against AEK but once again players like Rogic and Forrest let us down.}

13 Aug 2018 12:06:52
That's just nonsense Gerry, I know our defence is far from perfect but it's not as if we're scoring 4 and conceding 4. It seems that we should never concede in your book . "If we had won 1-0 we would be in a very good position"? If we had won 3-1 we would have been in a better position.

13 Aug 2018 12:36:26
ED. I'm certainly not arguing that our midfield and attack don't need improving, last season we struggled to break teams down and I believe even Sevco scored more goals than us. That is why we have to give the manager what he needs to get better players in if we can afford to.
I do think though that when we step up a level our defence makes too many errors. These days in European games it's a big advantage if you don't concede at home, as well as we played in the home game against Rosenborg that one goal we lost made it a nervy second leg. We have to make sure that if we do concede at home then the opposition score it through good play by them and not as a gift from us.
What you say about us creating and scoring more I agree with you. But it sort of sums up the complacency inside the club that because we were successful last season we don't have to spend any money this year.
We have suffered in previous years by not investing from a position of strength. I hope we don't make these mistakes again.

{Ed007's Note - We've got to make sure that we score more goals than our opposition, where's the demands for the free-flowing attacking football everybody usually says Celtic play? Where's the flair in our team, the exciting attacking players? We've got 3 top strikers on our books and they don't get enough service to their job properly and that's affecting results.
On the live chat on Saturday everybody predicted us to win 2-1 or 3-1 so we expected Hearts to score, what we didn't expect was another toothless display by the AM department - maybe we should start expecting it.}

13 Aug 2018 13:02:45
Stevie. I'm not saying we should never concede a goal, but we should at least make the opposition earn it.
The goals we lost against Rosenborg, Livingston, and AEK were all gifts from us, we can't afford to lose goals like that.
I was disappointed with being unable to break AEK down last Wednesday but the goal we lost before half time and the sending off meant that they could park the bus and they were pretty good at it.
I would love it if they gift us a goal tommorrow like the one they scored against us, but I wouldn't bet on it. We'll have to earn it, that's what we have got to make them do.

13 Aug 2018 13:46:14
The goal we conceded to Rosenborg was actually a well worked goal by them and the Livi one didn't really matter unless you were the bloke next to me who had Rogic 3-1 lol. With every goal conceded if you want to dissect it, there's a blame somewhere along the line. Defenders like goalkeepers will always be remembered by mistakes, whereas mistakes and misplaced passes by attacking players get overlooked. We haven't conceded more than one in any game this season and only conceded 4 in 7 competitive games. Could and probably should be better but the AEK and Hearts results were more down to our lack of creativity.

13 Aug 2018 15:48:22
Stevie. You sound even more complacent than the club.
I hope Brendan doesn't send them out tommorrow night telling them that conceding a goal doesn't really matter.

13 Aug 2018 17:03:05
Gerry I said conceding the goal to Livi didn't really matter which it didn't as it was last minute, game was won. Is that the best you can come back with? Still blaming everything on our young defence? No blame on our attacking players for scoring just once in last 180 mins of football. I hope Brendan doesn't send them out 2moro night saying scoring doesn't matter or we are definately out.

13 Aug 2018 16:57:57
Ed you and I have been saying for about 6 mths, our defence has been getting pelters but really we are not creating and scoring enough goals . Our lack of cutting edge means both Ntcham and Brown pushing too far forward leaving our defensive area short of numbers and no room to make any mistake .

13 Aug 2018 06:31:11
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 13th August 2018

13 Aug 2018 01:51:35
Micah Richards to be released by Aston Villa, anyone think him and maybe a Robert Huth type maybe good options for us?

Huth also a freebie, both experienced but mote importantly strong aggresive defenders. Wouldn't get bullied off the likes of the Hearts gimps.

{Ed001's Note - Micah Richards has been heavily criticised by his managers because he is always last on to the training pitch and first off it. Lazy blert he is.}

13 Aug 2018 08:11:39
Huth not a bad call.

13 Aug 2018 09:06:45
I’d have both of them in a minute good solid players and plenty of experience.

Rodgers would manage Micah well.

13 Aug 2018 09:56:55
There must be good young cbs out there that are on the fringes of first team football that we can get.

13 Aug 2018 23:17:58
Good Young centre backs that don't cost in excess of £10m each are about the level of development of Ajer and Hendry.

13 Aug 2018 00:32:29
First of all may I say that there is no CRISIS at the club in the true sense of the word as SMSM would like us to believe. Yes the result against AEK was disappointing but they are hardly pushovers. There defence last season in the league was as tight as a drum and they never lost a europa league game in 8.

For the record WE ARE STILL IN THE CL QUALIFIER. Up against it, agreed, but still in there fighting. Yesterday's result was woeful but if we're honest it was coming the minute the team sheet was read out. IMO we chanced our arm and got what we half expected. Sacrificed 3 points if you like.

Defeats are not nice but it's hardly going to dent our title challenge. We lost out on John mc ginn which was annoying. Bigger and better players have came not came and gone. Boyata must be sold and replacements must be brought in. Brendan has put a rocket under Lawwells arse and is not the first nor the last manager to do so publicly. PL has no option but to respond.

One thing you can say about PL is that on the financial side he has been magnificent for Celtic but 90% of his role is geared towards that side of the club and to a degree I can see why. We won't go bankrupt chasing shadows. Davies Provan hit the nail on the head when he said in his column that our European aspirations ended in seville and that the board should stop feeding us the drivel that we still have aspirstions there.

Fans can't be fooled and with all due respect the signings of young Lewis Morgan for example are not to compete with the big guns in Europe. I've said before domestic dominance is essential for me. Tell me who hasn't chanted BR is here for 10iar and I'll show ye a liar. Right now every club in Britain outwith the 4 in the CL would love to be in our position.

Things will come good I'm positive of that. Once it does SMSM will find some other way to attack us. Our crest won't crack and has been solid for 130 untainted years. God bless Glasgow Celtic🍀.

13 Aug 2018 01:16:56
Attabhoy Patdabhoy lol.

13 Aug 2018 07:08:51
I believe the issue is that wages are up 40% since BR joined. He wanted McGinn but we spent £3m on Kouasi who has not made it and never will. So there is another £20k a week added to the wages. To be honest BR has improved players but his recruitment has been mixed and i think PL is looking at the financials and maybe expected more players out the door before more come in? don't know but just a feeling. Either way it needs resolving quick. We do have 5 or 6 that should be moved on but you need to find someone willing to take them. Not easy.

13 Aug 2018 10:49:20
Johnny I think your being kind when u say mixed, it's been bloody woeful.