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29 Apr 2024 01:26:01
If Ange actually gets over the line for 5th place with Spurs this season, will his EPL achievement be better than Rodgers TWO fifth place EPL finishes and FA CUP win with a very average Leicester side?
On the flip side, if we get rid of BR at the end of the season, as some are suggesting, is Jack Ross still in the running?
1.) 29 Apr 2024 02:06:47
Firstly, Ange's achievements aren't anywhere near what Rodgers managed with Leicester.
Secondly, the only way Rodgers will be leaving is if Dermot says so or if Rodgers quits which will never happen as he has mentioned on numerous occasions since he came back that he will be here for AT LEAST the 3 years of the contract that he signed.
2.) 29 Apr 2024 03:22:26
Who cares what Ange does in his career now.
3.) 29 Apr 2024 06:49:15
Jack Ross really ? brendan will be the manager next season.
25 Jan 2024 13:54:03
I’m not a fan of letting MOR go, but from a business perspective it’s a no brainer for me. I’ll likely get stick for saying this, but taking football out the equation, you’ve got a goal of making £40m or whatever by the end of the year. Someone comes in and offers you that money right now for a part of your business that’s potentially replaceable…. Plus you still get to strive for the additional £40m by end of year.
Again, not saying we should let him go. Just trying to see both sides.
Ed, any update on Timalloy?
{Ed007's Note - No mate.}
1.) 25 Jan 2024 15:23:49
A few reports have mentioned £20 Million.
2.) 25 Jan 2024 17:24:11
I think MOR will have plenty options in the summer and if he continues to impress his choices and value will keep increasing.
3.) 25 Jan 2024 17:59:33
HeretoMcStay
It’s all about opinions but that makes absolutely zero business sense to me he will still be worth north of £25 million come the summer transfer window his stock will only rise.
There is a £50M prize for winning the league and gaining access to expanded Champions League which selling MOR would jeopordise albeit I accept we could still ‘strive’ to win the league without him but why take the risk?
Atletico Madrid would need to stump up £75M to buy him now to completely offset the risk to Celtic of not winning the league and that's not happening.
4.) 26 Jan 2024 05:08:22
JFP, if he loses form, falls out of favor, or god forbid gets injured, then that money goes down. Again, not thinking with a football hat. From a purely business perspective you take the money now, eliminate risk, and try to double the profits.
Once again, not saying we should do it, but can’t think of any business that would risk their success on one individual staff member. Footballs a different animal and it looks like BR and MN recognize his value is bigger than just the P&L.
5.) 26 Jan 2024 10:15:17
prob our best player this season and even with him we'll be hard pushed to win the league without him it makes it very doubtful, bernardo is improving an could do a job in his place but he in my opinion has a bit to go to reach the level of mor. we do have hatate to bring back but although playing for japan he is finding his fitness after another fairly long lay of through injury, so makes no sence to let mor go at this time.
29 Nov 2023 15:04:14
Bit of a pointless rant here, but I’m a bit sickened right now. As the European hangover dissipates, I think it’s already time to reflect on the journey.
The fact is we’re not good enough right now. Last year we went toe to toe with Madrid for a bit, and this year we’ve gone toe to toe with pretty much every team only really being beaten by dodgy pens and red cards. That said, this year we’ve seldom looked like getting the full 3 points in any game. So where do we go from here? Surely we strengthen!
If you ask me we need 5 or 6 players. In a dream world how do we get them? In my opinion we spend 4 or 5 million pounds per player and get some real quality. We show ambition and bring in players who can change a game. Maybe we even find some fringe or youth players at top clubs, and bring them in with an option to buy. That model has worked well for us in the past as we can kick out the dross and ensure we’re buying quality.
What’s the problem then? The problem is finding the money. We’re going into a new transfer window and we need money. We’ve just brought in $25m for Jota 6 months ago and still have Scott Bain, Ralston and Mikey Johnstone in the squad. Taylor should’ve fighting for a place, not guaranteed it and that pretty much goes for every position. We’re not going to get 25m this summer, so the window we just had will likely be better than what’s coming up next. How is that even possible?
Unless the board finally back the team (not just the manager) then it’s game over. The fans are divided, frustrated and quite frankly feel cheated. To pay all that money to go to Italy and see Forrest in the starting lineup must have felt like a slap in the face to many supporters. I really feel the club is close to meltdown. 2 more performances like Sunday and there’ll be massive revolt. We don’t deserve to be in this place. We don’t need to be in this place. And tbh for a club as successful as ours and the gap so large in recent years you’d have to try very hard to get to this place. 25m for a single player, record turnovers, automatic CL qualification and this is the squad we have? It’s not a question of where did it go wrong or how did it go wrong… the question is, why have they let it go wrong?
1.) 29 Nov 2023 15:22:52
I reckon it’s because Celtic won’t pay the wages.
If a player today costs at least £5 Million, he will probably demand at least a £35K a week salary and Celtic refuse to pay those wages.
And I believe that’s why Celtic have regressed.
We only need to look at the latest Ibrox club, who are skint and yet they pay their players better wages.
2.) 29 Nov 2023 16:34:53
That's a big part of the problem buzz . here2mcstay. don't think we need 4/ 5 this window as I don't think monkeys are good enough to take league from us . now were out of europe I don't think they need to replce hart until summer, what I'd like this widow is a midfielder with bite energy and mobility and a striker, then do the full rebuild on summer.
3.) 29 Nov 2023 16:44:14
The problems may well continue until the end of the season because the January window is not the best to do major rebuilding (5-6 players) and as you say we still have too many surplus dross that will not bring in any real cash or even the slightest interest other than loan offers. I'm sure things will pick up when the injured players return - unless of course we suffer further casualties. Another concern for me is the current predictability of our play and the lack of pace and invention to combat the constant bus parkers. Europe has been a step too far once again for the current squad available and I've already posted today about the Boards lack of ambition and investment in the right avenues.
I know we are top of the table and unbeaten, but we have dropped points this season in games we should be winning - especially if Kyogo was used and 'fed' in his customary style.
4.) 29 Nov 2023 19:28:31
By and large Celticpay high wages, and that explains why we have far too many first team players around the club .
There are many myths about the maximum wage Celtic currently pay and that C Mac G as captain gets the most . That could be true, however I think with signing on fees and other payments including possibly re - location packages it can be difficult to know how much is spent enticing players . Judging the difficulty in moving on players who disappoint, Celtic seem to be high payers for average players, why should they be mean over better players . I don’t remember us not agreeing terms and conditions after agreeing transfer price.
5.) 30 Nov 2023 04:57:16
Maybe that’s the case Buzz but surely 25k a week buys you better than some of the garbage like ideguchi and the Korean buoy that’s disappeared etc. that’s pulling on the shirt.
DRB I know you say we’ll still win the league but to be hobest the other mob are irrelevant. The only reason they exist these days is out of hatred towards us. I honestly believe their hatred towards us is bigger than their love of their own club and that’s their business model. They doubled down on the poppies and paratroopers and minutes silence and all that other stuff because the product on the park is poor. They’ve got people infiltrated into their blogs with “board” knowledge, just to pander to the fans. They’ve got puppets and cheerleaders everywhere, and that’s their model until they can compete on the park and somehow fix their finances.
Anyways, back to the point. We need changes and although I still believe BR can get the best out of this team, he does deserve a couple of top players.
I dunno. Yesterday was soul sucking and I go back and forth between whether we’re on the right track or falling off the rails. Drawing at home with a very average Motherwell side followed by an uneventful trip to Italy was just a bit much this week. Hopefully we smash Levein this weekend and all will be rosy again.
6.) 30 Nov 2023 09:10:08
According to Stephen McGowan the journalist,
the most any of our multiple signings get per week is £16K a week.
That’s 10 signings counting Iwata permanent contract.
It’s little wonder that Sevco have a higher wage bill.
There’s no doubt we have downsized which doesn’t make any sense, with the cash Celtic have in the bank.
7.) 30 Nov 2023 17:09:32
Buzz boy . I honestly surprised with you guoting any member of the SMSM, even Stephen McGowan, they are certainly not a group that I would rely on to quote about Celtic . I just don’t believe he or anyone else has access to that information and especially about all or nearly all purchases .
Stephen McGowan has a reputation for having early news about Celtic interested in particular players, but there are many others that he doesn’t seem to know and also that although he has Celtic in strong position to buy, they disappear.
04 Oct 2023 23:40:59
I might be Mr. optimism tonight, although I don’t know how as I’m absolutely gutted, but I’m actually proud of the boys tonight. Maybe it’s because I didn’t really fancy us going into the game, but I thought we dominated a game at the highest level. We’re playing in a pants league that regardless of finances struggles to allow us to attract top talent. Combine that with the fact that we only get to play decent teams a couple of times a year (and no disrespect to the SPFL teams but most of them setup to frustrate us rather than challenge us) … I mean even Man U can’t compete at this level and look at their squad, money and league they play in.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t expect more, and I’m not saying I’m happy with the result. However, I am saying I was very impressed with the way we played today. I thought we dominated the game and deserved to win. If we clear our lines, Hatate incident gets a red, and/ or Palma’s goal goes in, I think there’d be a few different posts on here.
Again, it’s not all bright and rosy, but we didn’t just lose to some Cypriot mob.
1.) 05 Oct 2023 00:37:53
Good Post McStay.
I was also happy with our second half performance.
The marginal decisions went against Celtic tonight but that’s what happens when we’re on such a poor European run.
2.) 05 Oct 2023 00:39:45
I feel tonight just like the Lazio fans did four years ago when Nitcham got the winner in Rome in the 95th minute. I watched the game tonight with some friends who support Lazio as I live in Rome. Before I had a chance to say anything they admitted that they had stolen the game as Celtic were by far the better team. The Lazio team we beat home and away just four years ago was far superior to this team. It's true they are not some Cypriot mob but they aren't far of it. Unfortunately in football the better team doesn't always win.
3.) 05 Oct 2023 00:45:42
I couldn't agree more ??????????.
4.) 05 Oct 2023 09:57:07
McStay my friend Enrico agrees very good post.
Very hard to accept to get zero from the game you know. But the thing is like you say some nice football and Enrico can see different style of play starting to come together from last season.
Yang is very young but continue to improve he have some very nice touches last night.
Diazen gives his all everytime guys.
01 Sep 2022 16:08:48
Can anyone confirm if we still need 8 homegrown players for Europe? If so, who are the 8 that we’d register?
1 Calmac
2 Turnbull
3 Ralston
4 Taylor
5 Bain
6 Welsh
7 Forrest
8… MJ/ McCarthy? Does Siegrist qualify as homegrown?
1.) 01 Sep 2022 16:14:18
Forget Siegrist, I just realized they have to be at the club for 3 years while U21.
2.) 01 Sep 2022 16:41:48
I think its 4 homegrown (academy) and 4 association so Calmac, Forrest, Ralston and Welsh cover that and Turnbull, Taylor, McCarthy and Bain fill that out, which I believe works out due to a rule requiring 2 GK in match day squads for Europe.
3.) 01 Sep 2022 16:59:37
Sounds like McCarthy will stay then.
4.) 01 Sep 2022 17:47:46
Scott Robertson is also still here so potentially could be included in the squad.
04 Jul 2024 00:29:57
Jonbhoy I thought it was a wind up tbh. Do people not realize how a negotiation works? If PL is indeed involved then hats off to him for lowballing and potentially getting a guy on the cheap.
I can assure you that MN, CM and the likes are making decisions. PL can, and will, advise as needed but at the end of the day if PL was a control freak and money grabber he’d have just stepped back into the role immediately when DM left.
As much as I love this site, and Ed and a few of the posters deserve some sort of award or compensation, this negative PL narrative is probably the worst part. Like you say, some people really would blame PL if the toilets were broken the mora.
03 Jul 2024 14:28:06
In theory that signing on fee idea sounds good mate, but will the player really be just as motivated to play and stay with us after getting a big upfront payment? I assume the club would structure it and pay it out over the course of the contract. However, if that’s the case, why not just pay him the wages he wants because it all works out the same, no?
Sorry Ed, stupidly posted that ?as a new post on the banter page too.
{Ed007's Note - ????
07 Feb 2024 18:20:27
I think if DD was unhappy at recruitment he’d have made a decision and communicated that before the January window.
31 Aug 2023 20:36:51
Agreed mate, it’s the main reason I visit the site. It’s about time more people listened to you as well!
{Ed007's Note - Behave yourself ??? But thanks
31 Aug 2023 19:57:24
All I’m saying is the whole team have been playing below par for quite a while now. And to your point, maybe as a captain you’re the first one to get the finger pointed at you when that happens. I’m just not a fan of the negativity right now. Wee Taylor done us a right turn last year and now people are calling for his head, and you always stood up for Starfelt who was vilified as well… so I agree you’ve got zero influence ?.
Point taken, you can have your say on Calmac!
{Ed007's Note - It's just all about differing opinions ?? although I am always right!}
20 May 2024 15:02:15
First off congrats to the boys and thank you to everyone on here and Ed, for keeping a brilliant site going throughout this season. A bit late to the show, I know, but life’s been busy.
@Buzz, for me the biggest problem with VAR is consistency, and I actually believe they’ve set it up to be that way.
Every week they switch the people doing VAR. How can you ever expect consistency when every other week someone different is making the decision? I’ll even take that a step further, why not just have 4-6 people in a room every Saturday, offsite in some remote office, each assigned to their own game and monitors. Then throw in a supervisor or two into the room that can verify and sign off on decisions.
This way every game gets the same set of eyes every week and to some degree share the same point of view (or at least grow to) . They’ll be set up for success and to improve decision-making together, as opposed to pointing the finger and critiquing each others errors on national TV and in papers.
I’m not sure what I’m missing, cos it’s not rocket science. Standardise it and consistency will be a natural progression.
09 Apr 2024 15:19:01
T2B I thought the exact same thing. Bernardo against them at Parkhead was almost like for like there, no? I mean that’s not just bitter or green tinted… literally it’s an exact like for like as far as I can see.
04 Apr 2024 17:39:45
Great to hear Timalloy!
03 Apr 2024 04:47:24
Buzz, our board crack jokes at the whole ref thing. Even DD thinks”penalty Rangers” is funny. Either the club stop talking about it, or they do something about it. Either they take it further or shut the fluck up and move on. They need to be our leaders not our pals.
06 Mar 2024 03:53:43
Buzz, outstanding research and insight. These are the types of stats the SMSM should be writing about instead of commenting on ridiculous phone in clickbait or comments from a £40m superstar now struggling for a start in Brazil’s second division.
If these stats are true, does nobody think it’s a wee bit strange that refs aren’t being appointed post these complaints? Does that not maybe put pressure on refs to not upset the apple cart? Out of interest Buzz, do you know if a ref is paid less for doing a championship game? i. e are they ever financially affected as well?