Celtic Banter Archive December 06 2018

 

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06 Dec 2018 20:16:29
The number 7 is famous at Celtic for obvious reasons, with a suite at Celtic park named in its honour.
Players who have wore the number 8 have been very loyal to our club.
Paul McStay wore it since 1982 when selected. McStay was given 8 when squad numbers were introduced in 1992.
A couple of years after Paul retired, Alan Thompson was awarded the number 8 and when Thommo left Our captain Broony took on this well served number.
Its great to think of the honours won by these 3 players in the last 37 years.

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06 Dec 2018 21:15:25
Don't know where you got your info for that but Mcstay was wearing the number 8 well before the 90s.
He wore it all during the centenary year.
He was wearing it long before numbers were put on our jersey, when we just had them on our shorts.

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{Ed007's Note - Remember it was always just 1-11, Kev...

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06 Dec 2018 21:28:19
In fact he was wearing number 8 around 83/ 84. Dave proven was wearing 7 back then.
Mcstay worn number 8 in both the 1984 and 1985 Scottish cup finals.

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06 Dec 2018 21:41:49
I knew he did wear 7 early on ed but by time he made CM his own he wore the number 8 more than he didn't.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm just meaning back then numbers were more about the players' position on the park than anything else.}

06 Dec 2018 21:45:12
Kev read my post again. I mention he wore 8 from 82 .
He wore 8 in his debut v Qots 4-0 in scottish cup.
A week later he scored his first goal away to Aberdeen in a 3-1 victory, wearing 8.
Since the squad numbers were introduced they are the only 3 players to wear that number for Celtic. McStay also made that number his own from 82 to 92 when selected.

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06 Dec 2018 21:52:51
rubbish sorry Leon. Just realised you were talking about Mcstay wearing the 8 jersey and not the 7.
Didn't read your post right. Sorry.

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06 Dec 2018 22:03:37
Ye ed. Sure it was 8 and 6 that were CM with 7 and 10 as wide men?

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{Ed007's Note - The wingers were 7 & 11 in the old 4-4-2.}

06 Dec 2018 22:36:47
Didn't Burley wear No.8?

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06 Dec 2018 23:06:47
Great shout malkybhoy.
I got my information from Celtic squad numbers transfer markt.
It gives all numbers and who played from 1992.
Number 8 caught my attention cos there was only 3 players listed.
There was a gap from 1997 to 2000 but they left out Burley.
I only noticed it cos i was listening to the phone in and they were looking for Celtic number 10 in the quiz, but Dembele left. Trick question.
I think you would be good at taking on the pundits.

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07 Dec 2018 01:32:21
Number 7 used to be number of choice for me, but lately there has been a few horrors associated with it such as Ljungberg, Miku and Cifti.

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07 Dec 2018 09:32:10
Numbers aren’t important it’s the wearing of the jersey 🍀.

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07 Dec 2018 07:20:14
Really ed? Always thought it was other way about because burns worn 10.

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{Ed007's Note - When I was younger the No.10 was your main playmaker and usually your star man before the likes of Larsson, Beckham and Ronaldo made No.7 so popular. Traditional No.10s mostly played between the midfield and attack but some were wingers or up front just off the main striker where 'second-striker' seems to be the modern term.
There's plenty more but some examples of classic No.10s are Maradona, Bergkamp, Baggio, Platini, Zidane, Gullit, Zico, Totti, Ronaldinho and Messi.}

07 Dec 2018 11:46:18
Burley was 8 as I stupidly had the name and number on my top when I was a kid until it got swiftly changed to Larsson.

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07 Dec 2018 12:35:46
No7 was my 1st position inside right and that was early eighties.

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07 Dec 2018 13:08:19
Would anyone give forrest the number 7?

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07 Dec 2018 17:23:58
Welshy a always thought the old no8 was an inside right mate.

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07 Dec 2018 19:31:34
No10 my number of choice baggio maradona matthaus all wore it struggling to name a right good Celtic no10 Lambert wore it I'm sure when he 1st signed and Andy Thom but can't recall many more except Darren Jackson i also loved no9 but was never a striker.

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08 Dec 2018 01:48:24
Yes Cory, I would give no 7 to James Forrest.

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06 Dec 2018 17:07:18
I am convinced Kevin Clancy is now a member of the Stop The 10 Union.
I always thought he was part of the chosen 2 him and Collum, not any more.
After disallowing last nights goal with no one obstructing his view, that will probably get him a place on the committee.
In his previous Celtic game v Livingston 0-0 he spoke to their forward for assault, half way through the first half, although the player did get suspended in his next match v Sevco, so all was good.4 points dropped in 2 games.
At this rate Clancy will be hoping to be made grand master of the Stop The 10 Union come the new year, although competition is at an all time high for this position.

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06 Dec 2018 17:55:50
Cmon Leon even you don't believe that nonsense. Agreed the goal should not have been disallowed but you have to remember referees see incidents in real time as they happen whereas pundits, commentators etc view these incidents in many replays from many different angles then slate the referees for making incorrect decisions. He gave us a penalty did he not? Which by the way I only though it was a penalty after the second or third replay. We only have ourselves to blame for not winning that match last night.

On a different note, Steve Clark is doing a remarkable job at Killie. I certainly wouldn't mind him at Celtic in some capacity or even future manager. His team organisational skills are second to none👍.

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06 Dec 2018 17:56:13
Lock your doors and make sure to look under your bed tonight wee man.

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06 Dec 2018 18:22:35
Sometimes I think referees who might be open to potential allegations of being pro-Celtic try so hard to be SEEN to be fair they go a step too far in order to be beyond criticism. Their desire to gain establishment approval makes both these soupers WORSE than their nipple exposing goat embracing counterparts. This for me plays a bigger part in their decision making than their incompetence.

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06 Dec 2018 18:44:02
It was a ridiculous 'honest mistake' as Benkovic was also having his shirt pulled when he 'scored' - yet he still gave 'Well the decision.
I have also mentioned that he failed to send off two Motherwell players in the second half who were on yellow cards after they committed later, bookable offences and were conveniently excused.

The bottom line will always be - as long as our players do their jobs and play to their potential, then the referee becomes insignificant and that was the philosophy of Big Jock and it still relates today.

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06 Dec 2018 19:16:29
Malkybhoy with his clear view of the incident what could he have seen to warrant a foul that all the cameras missed?

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06 Dec 2018 22:42:03
I've no idea what he thought he saw Kev, maybe Benko having a hold of the Motherwell players shirt looked far worse in real time. He wasn't cheating that's for sure.

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06 Dec 2018 22:50:04
Foul on gamboa was a disgrace foul all day long.

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07 Dec 2018 11:37:01
We missed a penalty and created next to nothing the whole second half. Celtic have had dubious descion against them since football was invented. We win so many honours by being better than the rest. Last night we were poor and it came back to bite us.

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07 Dec 2018 11:42:51
His brother and him support TRIFC. Madden ex season ticket holder. Many refs openly supported rangers fc over the years. How many celtic supporting refs with season tickets has there been?

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07 Dec 2018 13:42:56
Agreed mally and it was the guy who scored the goal who committed it seems a lot of people have been overlooking it but a definite foul for me and if it had been given we more than likely would have won the game and all the drama would have been lessened but another point I thought gamboa played well however Edouard looked less than interested in the game we really need to get a new striker in.

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07 Dec 2018 20:32:40
Pud do you mean Clancy is a Rangers supporter? He was a season ticket holder at Partick Thistle growing up. Not that it should mean anything but he is also a Catholic.

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06 Dec 2018 12:41:48
I think if you happen upon a formation or a system that works better than any other one, with certain players playing, you should keep playing it, I don't believe in squad rotation just for the sake of giving some players game time, in the olden days, these players would get their game time in the reserves, and be brought into the first team to replace a suspended or injured player, now you have wholesale changes, just sometimes, I think to show of, how strong your squad is.

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06 Dec 2018 17:56:30
Strongest 11 everytime👍.

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06 Dec 2018 20:15:33
I wouldn't criticise Rodgers too much for making changes. We had a big game in Norway last Thursday, then a cup final 3 days later, on top of that there was last nights game and the Kilmarnock match in quick succession, it's asking a lot to be playing an unchanged team in all these games.

I think if Clubs want a break in January then the season should either start earlier or finish later and spread the games out more. It just looks like they are cramming January's fixtures into December, which not only means a lot of extra expense for fans who aren't season ticket holders of their teams, but a lot of the time they are watching weakened teams so aren't getting value for money in the games they do go to.

When you look at the shambles of the scheduling of the 2 cup semi finals, the authorities need to plan the fixtures a lot better and try and ensure that fans can watch the best players more often than not.

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06 Dec 2018 22:51:07
It wasn't the changes that cost us the game griff pen miss and the poor refereeing was the culprit.

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06 Dec 2018 12:20:24
Staffordshire polis putting our lot to shame currently knocking on doors lifting those responsible for wrecking toilets at the port vale stoke 21s game after footage appeared online. anybody see the symmetry.

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06 Dec 2018 10:40:25
What I'd like for Xmas.
A young, physical rapid RB
A dominating CH to replace boyata
A new left winger
A physical target man to hold the ball up.

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06 Dec 2018 11:13:46
Caught in two minds with the left winger situation. I think I'd like to see us get a striker in the mould of Dembele and see Edouard back in that wee gap between channels and lines on the leftvasking different questions. But then we have a situation where we have Sinclair as one of our highest earners pushed out the side.

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06 Dec 2018 11:31:37
Defgo need a striker that can hold the ball up and bring others into play.

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06 Dec 2018 15:14:04
A Danny McGrain, Billy McNeill, Bobby Lennox and big John Hartson will do Kmax.

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06 Dec 2018 20:04:16
And a Lubo ged.

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06 Dec 2018 22:39:17
Lubo was better than outstanding.

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06 Dec 2018 23:13:26
I’d settle for getting rid of some of the deadwood this window, of which we have a lot. Including A few of our recent baffling signings, Izzy and Mulumbo.

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07 Dec 2018 17:40:35
always liked the phrase celtic don`t buy stars they make them so in the january sales would like some exciting young potential preferably scottish.

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06 Dec 2018 09:17:19
As much as hate to say but Leigh Griffiths is not good enough now for us, he has not had a good season since scoring 40 for Ronny Delia side If he isn't injured then his form is poor Sorry time up for me.

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06 Dec 2018 09:58:54
He just signed a new deal, he is lacking match fitness and game time, he is the only real no 9 we have and will come good again. BR wouldn't have approved an extension if he didn't have full confidence in him.

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06 Dec 2018 10:29:32
Oooft the massive over reactors are out in force today eh.

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06 Dec 2018 10:59:37
kev83 is not and over reaction its my onion for a while, when was the last game Griff won the game and played well?

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06 Dec 2018 11:14:07
Being injured and unable to play makes him not good enough.
Geez piece.
The guy has a scoring rate of 1 goal in less than every 2 games.
Even not fully fit he's scored goals this season including Europe against suduva and the winner against rosenburg
When fully fit and with game time he will be back to his deadly self.

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06 Dec 2018 11:23:14
He's the most natural goal scorer we have. He's been injured and ill. He scored his first game back. He's the only decent freekick and corner taker. Saying he's finished at us is rubbish.

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06 Dec 2018 12:42:41
To be fair he has had so many injury problems - not to mention other personal issues - and has not been first choice for some time behind Dembele and now Odd-soaks, so it's very difficult to be at his best for 'guest appearances' and he looks frustrated as well.

However, I am sure BR must be looking at our striker situation with a view to bring in someone as apart from both Griff or Eddy not scoring enough; they lack other no. 9 attributes severely lacking at present.

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06 Dec 2018 15:01:27
Davie in my opinion your onion is wrong 😂.

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06 Dec 2018 20:06:49
Davie complete dross
Check the stats
Rosenberg?
St Johnston?

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07 Dec 2018 00:29:54
Anybody who thinks Griff is not good enough needs a serious reality check. His goal scoring rate is absolutely phenomenal and he can score them in real pressure situations. He’d be the first name on my team sheet.

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07 Dec 2018 18:32:38
He has to play every week to be effective. Don't think he's the kind of player to just be part of the squad. Difficult to give him first team football after splashing so much cash on Edouard.

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06 Dec 2018 07:08:20
Let's hope the Jan window brings a striker that knows how to hold the ball up and keep possession. because the 2 we have just now can't, we lose it far to often dye to our strikers hold up play plus they are to inconsistent griff hasn't got going dye to injury and not looking for and eddy has been up and down.

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06 Dec 2018 10:38:04
Outwith our current policy but Stephen fletcher offers exactly what I think we need, won't be popular but does anyone have a better option? Aus with a lot of the guys for Scotland too.

Don't want a loan that won't play in place of current strikers, no big money signing to halt progress of eddy, so an experienced striker who we can use away in Europe and against more physical team domestically would be ideal. Plus he's a celtic fan n why wouldn't he come to win trophies with us.

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06 Dec 2018 11:32:54
His injury record is on a par with jozo.

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06 Dec 2018 11:43:55
If we are signing Stephen Fletcher we might as well pack up and shut the doors.
The guy is a DUD he's always been a DUD.
His scoring record is shocking.

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05 Dec 2018 23:52:41
Easy to over-react immediately after the final whistle of a bad result and I know the SEVEN changes will be a hot-topic with supporters, but the game should have been wrapped up by HT - if not for yet another honest mistake and a poor penalty miss.
Benkovic goal would have changed the whole game and Griff had a great opportunity to stake his claim, both incidents were costly.

However, it is also apparent that some players are well short of their best and there were far too many poor passes, slackness and mistakes, especially at the back.
Gordon's distribution (even when he has plenty time) is atrocious and Gamboa is just not good enough and we do not have a No 9 that can hold the ball and play-in others.
Add to that a bit of tiredness and fatigue from the past week or so and you get punished like tonight.

Motherwell, were an average team tonight, but when we failed to put them to bed in the first half, for the reasons mentioned, it gave them encouragement and possession.
The past three games have seen us score only the one goal - thanks mostly to Christie - and we really do need to get another striker in the door as well as a decent right back as soon as possible.

The result is a set-back, but it's not a crisis. The games in hand, should look after themselves, as long as we get back to winning ways against the league leaders?
The busy schedule will take it's toll on other teams as well, so points will be dropped all over, as was proved in Govan tonight.

One last word on officials; it's not only big decisions that affect games; there were two Motherwell players who were booked that went on to commit further yellow card offences and were 'excused'. That is not an excuse but a fact.

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05 Dec 2018 23:51:12
Do you guys think that the changes tonight in particular Scott Brown being back in the team slowed down the attacking flare that has Been present in the last few weeks? Maybe time to bring the legend on from the bench.

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06 Dec 2018 07:54:49
Think it’s too easy to question wether bringing brown back in contributed to our poor showing last night. Browns been a major player for us for 10 years now and in my opinion still has a lot to offer. Luckily for us that the injuries to brown and ntcham haven’t hampered us due to McGregor and Christie stepping up but even with the 7 changes last night we should still have had more than enough about us to have won that game. We can’t hold brown etc accountable for the constant poor distribution from Gordon or the constant passing the ball right across the back line to and fro inviting the opposition to come onto us. As Brendan said himself too many individual performances last night and not playing as a unit cost us big time, that plus missing the pen and having a perfectly good goal chalked off. That result last night feels like a defeat giving how late we lost that goal mixed with the score line fae Govan.

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06 Dec 2018 12:50:20
Think I noticed when Brown was out and McGregor took that postion. McGregor didn't sit as deep as Brown. Brown goes back to the CH to collect ball so let's the opposition push up another 10/15 yards, making the midfielde more congested.

Thought Motherwell bullied our midfield last night which suprises me with Broony back.

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06 Dec 2018 12:54:36
There were a few under par again last night and we have struggled to score goals in last five games (barring Hamilton away) - even when Sinclair and Eddy came on, they too were pretty awful to be honest.

One thing I don't like is that Broony does get involved in too much tippy-tappy passes along the back-line and several times we came unstuck with poor control and mistakes that would have been punished by a better team. OK we need to keep possession and look for space and forward runs, but we need to quicker and more positive like when McGregor was in that position and gave more of an attacking influence.

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05 Dec 2018 23:49:25
I didn't watch the video, and Andy Robertsons heart is probably in the right place, but I think it would make me cringe a bit seeing a millionaire footballer imploring people to give to food banks, much the same way it used to make me cringe when I would see Bob geldoff, begging money for Africa, if all these millionaire footballers, gave the same percentage of their earnings to food banks as ordinary folks do, the food banks would be overflowing.

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06 Dec 2018 06:42:55
I would much prefer it if we did not need food banks. This could easily be achieved if we went after tax dodgers instead of brutalising vulnerable people in need of benefits. Another thing would be to get rid of the torrie government who are passing legislation that increases the divide in society.

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05 Dec 2018 23:46:25
I know the lads have been doing well the last few months but to say im frustrated with the result tonight is an understatement!
Not happy at all, its more the fact we should be finishing teams off. At 1 nil they always have a shout as it turned out. Also every time we make a lot of changed we drop points, yes we need fresh legs but 7 changes was extreme.
As i said need to start finishing teams off!

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06 Dec 2018 00:42:15
As the emotions die down I think BR got it spot on missed pen and good goal ruled out but we still have to see the game out seeing the game out means it's down to us as a team.

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