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19 Mar 2016 17:23:33
As poor as we were today I was pleased to see the reaction of all the players and how they responded to Ronny at full time. Hopefully this wonder goal kick starts a real togetherness, that can push us over the line. Also think we have to start playing Roberts from the start. He's one goal or special mazy run from bursting with confidence and really being a positive influence in our play. Time for everyone to really support the team and cheer the good stuff and encourage when things aren't so good. Hail hail!

Pattybhoy

1.) 19 Mar 2016 20:22:40
This has to be the team until Simunovic is back:

Gordon

Lustig Sviatchenko Mulgrew Tierney (assuming he is back by 2nd April)

Bitton Johansen? (this is the only one I am not sure off)

Roberts Rogic GMS

Griffiths

Brown and Commons have been utter pish and need dropped as we can't afford to carry them.


2.) 20 Mar 2016 19:43:48
Were people saying Rony had lost the dressing room . It doesn't seem so after Saturday, not only has he the players backing him but it seems the ticket buying Celtic supporters are right behind him . IT appears that the old adage those that matter don't mind, R D, and those that mind don't matter .


 

 

06 Mar 2016 19:36:46
Ronny must be delighted! This could be the big game that gets some passion stirring. Giving them a doing could maybe enthuse some of the fans and create a bit of feel good.

Pattybhoy

1.) 06 Mar 2016 19:49:16
I think a loss will probably put the final nail in Ronnie's coffin.


2.) 06 Mar 2016 20:24:29
That's the game Rab, stay positive.


3.) 06 Mar 2016 20:38:11
haha, never meant it to come across that way.


4.) 06 Mar 2016 22:10:37
I know, I couldn't resist it and it gives some people something to click disagree on. Hail, Hail.


 

 

03 Mar 2016 08:39:36
I really feel for Ronny. I was a fan and thought he would do well as I liked the way he spoke. But it just isn't working.
I think a lot of people at Celtic have to look at themselves and ask if they have gave everything.
Watching the game last night it was obvious a number of players aren't trying for Ronny. For me Scott brown is going through the motions and giving nothing, disgraceful for the club captain! He says all the right things at post match interviews, but his face and demeanour for me say I couldn't give a fat penguin.
He's not the only senior player not cutting it but he is the captain and should lead by example whatever the circumstances behind the scenes.
Does ed know what is being said behind the scenes? What's the plan? A cull of the players not buying into the new regime or is Ronny for the boot?
For me it has to be both now, which saddens me as I think Ronny could have done some good with the full backing of everyone. Fans included.

Pattybhoy

{Ed001's Note - I have said all along I know of players who were against Deila and making it as difficult as possible for him, one even said as much to me, though for obvious reasons I can't name him. I got shedloads of abuse on here for saying so, nothing has changed though. He still has players not bothering, he still has the board tying one of his arms behind his back, not just in terms of work in the transfer market but in terms of pressuring him to pick certain players to raise their 'sale value'. So I would not expect any cull, as there are a lot of players there Deila would have sold a long time ago if he could.}


1.) 03 Mar 2016 08:47:25
Well if there was ever a post to shed a bit of light on some individuals here, who ridicule the support of RD it was that one there. Thanks Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - I have to say I am not convinced Deila is the answer, but he has not had the chance to prove it one way or the other. It wouldn't matter who is in charge, change needs to come at a higher level before anyone will be able to create sustained success at European level. Well relative success I should say, as I am sure none of you expect Celtic to win the Champions League every year!}


2.) 03 Mar 2016 08:50:54
Ed don't waste your time.
There is no reasoning with the Ronnie out brigade. His family could be kidnapped and be forced to play a certain formation or player and they'd still moan.


3.) 03 Mar 2016 09:00:36
My only issue with RD is that with such a cavaliar approach, you need better players than what we have, or you get found out and picked apart. Is such an approach at CL level too much of a step up? I'm willing to give the guy another pop because as you say he's only had his hands tied by people who are payed to help the club, but don't. None of us expect to win it. But qualifying every year, you give the whole club a better platform to attract the players required and make in roads. But the board haven't shown any ambition or reason to achieve that either. Like you say, our problems are, and have been for before RD, bigger than our head coach.

{Ed001's Note - Leicester have been cavalier in their approach all season, I doubt their squad cost as much as yours, but they are doing well. The difference is they have a team who all want to play for them, those that weren't pulling in the right direction (even record signing Kramaric) were moved out. Celtic have never done the same, as the board only want to sell when there is profit in it, so they want players played to improve value for a sale, rather than just got rid of. This is the problem when running as a business entity is prioritised over the football side. The priority should be to put the best team on the pitch within budget, not making profits.}


4.) 03 Mar 2016 09:01:59
That's a disgraceful attitude for any professional player.
Do you know the reasons for the players not doing it for Ronny? Is it a personal dislike?
Do you think Ronny is going to keep his job with all this against him?

{Ed001's Note - my personal opinion is that the player is just a lazy *censored* whose main issue seems to be not wanting to work hard in training. Though he makes numerous excuses, it always seems to come back to that. He just wants to lark about.}


5.) 03 Mar 2016 09:15:13
Well very worrying times ahead if the board intend to do nothing. The status quo just won't do.


6.) 03 Mar 2016 09:32:07
Does all of this not just prove that RD is not a strong enough individual. He is by definition a YES man. If he grew a pair, did his own thing and things improve, it would be difficult for the board to put pressure on him. If they then sack him, he could blow the lid on them. Unfortunately, when he goes, and he will, he will no doubt take the gag money to walk away quietly. If he walks quietly, other potential employers will just think he is a sh@t manager, if he blows the lid he might gain some respect. At present, he is piggy in the middle getting it from all sides. For his own sanity he needs to get out, if what Ed says is true.

{Ed001's Note - he can't talk about it either way, his contract, as do all contracts these days, include clauses forbidding him to talk about club matters. Even if he quit, there is a very real possibility of him being sued for breach of contract if he spoke out. That is why I hate recent players being used as pundits, it is years before they are in a position to spill the beans and be entirely honest about their own career.}


7.) 03 Mar 2016 09:35:20
Hi Ed,

I think you have just reinforced what I already suspected and seen on the park with my own eyes.

Using the clues you gave I think the player you are talking about is either Commons or Forrest and my money is on Commons. However, I realise you cannot confirm this.

I also think Scott Brown has downed tools. I would guess he either has an issue with the board or the manager/ coaches or all.

Personally I would really like all the fans to stop going to matches until we have a clearout of the board and owners and get ones in who want to take us forward and respect the fans. We can dream.


8.) 03 Mar 2016 09:46:05
"The priority should be to put the best team on the pitch within budget, not making profits. "

Nailed it. That's what I've been banging on about for years. The priorities are wrong and from a footballing perspective our transfer policy is flawed. Running a football club is different to running a chemical or pharmaceutical company. What I like about a lot of successful clubs is that they have footballing men making the financial decisions (obviously under degrees of guidance) , not financiers making footballing decisions.

Leicester are obviously the prime example at the moment Ed in terms of work ethic. I wouldn't grumble at some of their players mind, but that probably just shows again our poor levels of recruitment - even I suggested Kante on here before he moved to Leicester - but again you're right. The first thing you need is the willingness to work hard, learn and apply yourself.


9.) 03 Mar 2016 09:56:26
Rabmac I was thinking stokes commons mulgrew brown and forrest.


10.) 03 Mar 2016 10:02:56
You talk a lot of utter nonsense green lantern! You never say anything constructive or back up any of your arguments, you simply rave and rave away about people who have a different opinion to yourself and make them out to be having some sort of witch hunt! So just to be clear, because it's obviously difficult for you to understand - I'm not a Ronny hater, I like him, what I hate is the bloody football we're having to watch! This whole season has been a complete brass neck and everyone from the board to the players, via Ronny are complicit! I agree with Ed, I've heard stories also, it happens at every club though, you always get cliques, troublemakers, and it's becoming more and more the norm for the manager to not solely choose the players he signs! So it's not black and white! Ronny got the plaudits for last season ending well so a 5 year old kid would know that he also has to take it on the chin now! With identical circumstances Paul Hartley would have done a better job with us! I don't think he's quite ready but I like him! He's not the biggest in stature but he's got plenty of fire, he's got a bit about him! He's done great every year he's been in management, he's not had a bean to work with, he's made the most of it though! As the saying goes you adapt or you die! I want a change now!


11.) 03 Mar 2016 10:26:52
Ed, as you say, if RD quit, there would be gagging clauses, but if he was sacked, all bets would be off. Is that not what is meant when they "part by mutual consent" as in paid to keep quiet. Can you not then tell then to keep the cash and spill the beans, not that anyone ever does! That only leaves a Kellyesque boycott to force change because there are no other options to the slow painful death.

{Ed001's Note - being sacked does not end your requirement to stick to contractual obligations.}


12.) 03 Mar 2016 10:41:04
If sacked, your contract is terminated. Anything after that would be by mutual agreement. Same clauses cannot apply when your are no longer an employee. This would be a breach of employment law. They can have no contractual hold over someone they no longer employ.

{Ed001's Note - that is simply not necessarily true. It is not that simple. You can be sacked by a company but still held to confidentiality clauses. I don't know where you got that rubbish from, but it is a load of bollards.}


13.) 03 Mar 2016 10:55:57
So how long can a former employer hold you to a clause in a contractual agreement, in a contract they have since terminated?

{Ed001's Note - seriously you need to realise that there are numerous circumstances that can make a confidentiality clause last well after the contract has ended. I really do not understand why you are having difficulty with this, otherwise no company would use them as it would mean any staff with access to confidential information would be unsackable! The terms are laid out in the contract, so it would really come down to that. Not sure what you are having difficulty with, sacking someone does not mean dissolving all agreements between you, that would be mutual termination of a contract, not being fired.}


14.) 03 Mar 2016 11:19:09
Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand how much of a hold an employer could have over an ex employee. If that is the deal RD accepted then I'm afraid the ones that walked away deserve respect, and by the same token RD has to accept all the criticism coming his way. He may have thought he could rise to the challenge, but if he knew the score, then the buck stops with him. He is a likeable guy, and he has my sympathy but he is the yes man most suspected he was.

{Ed001's Note - every employer potentially has that much of a hold if they choose to insert confidentiality clauses in an employment contract. Though I doubt Celtic's will be as onerous as say GCHQ, but they will certainly have some kind of confidentiality clause, which is why so little gets out about players' misbehaviour in football. Just ask Ryan Giggs about the potential for unwanted tales to escape without these clauses being in force.....}


15.) 03 Mar 2016 11:52:23
Wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out who the individual is not trying in my view

Yeah in my working life I have signed confidential clauses keeping quiet and also keeping others quiet you breach it you can end up in court trust me on that.


16.) 03 Mar 2016 12:18:46
This is true, My last job had confidentiality clauses and also I couldn't work for a company of similar nature for 9 months and I couldn't work for a rival company within a 10 mile proximity for 9 months even after dismissal, So being sacked makes no difference. I think its BS really.


17.) 03 Mar 2016 12:43:49
Still don't think CFC would like to end up I court, sort of detrimental to initial aim and would be an admission they had something to hide. Sorry, I know I'm going on, but like many am really pissed off at where things are going just now.


18.) 03 Mar 2016 12:52:25
Had the same clauses in my contract in a cellphone company, no work for other cell companies for 12 months even if i got sacked. It makes sense when a person that got sacked has a bigger reason to make a situation.


19.) 03 Mar 2016 12:53:45
@Gordo87 - You may be right about Stokes but I'm sure Brown and Mulgrew, both work hard in training.


20.) 03 Mar 2016 14:48:23
It has to be someone that carries some influence in/ over the team!

So then it's Commons/ Brown / Mulgew or Stokes chopping 1 of that list I plump for Brown

Leaves you three chop 1 of that list I go Muglrew

Leaves you 1 person still there, 1 person on loan take your pick folks?


21.) 03 Mar 2016 15:17:15
I really don't think it's SB at all.


22.) 03 Mar 2016 15:01:54
001 Mate oor Ed, would have given us a pointer lol via my dissection / synopsis so pipe up buddy

Did you give him a day off? He gets more time aff than Santa :-D.

{Ed007's Note - I was sitting in the doctor's waiting room earlier editing sites on my phone - if I take a day off the whole place falls apart.}


23.) 03 Mar 2016 15:01:54
001 Mate oor Ed, would have given us a pointer lol via my dissection / synopsis so pipe up buddy

Did you give him a day off? He gets more time aff than Santa :-D.

{Ed001's Note - Ed007 forgets he sleeps more hours than most people are awake each day, bless him. It is an old people's thing. One minute he is awake the next he is nodding off for 40 winks, or 3 hours roughly. Then he is awake for an hour before he nods off again. Old people do that a lot I have noticed.}


24.) 03 Mar 2016 16:41:15
Forget all the theories about the board, players not wanting to play, confidentiality clauses, the only thing that no one can argue about is that Ronnie just is'nt a very good manager, he is a very good public speaker, but if you go back and listen to that lecture on youtube, and do it with a critical ear, I think you;ll find a guy that's just been winging it.


25.) 03 Mar 2016 17:21:15
Oh Ed, you alright buddy? That arthritis playing up? You picked a good day to go plenty upset the day mate, betcha you so glad you went last night eh? :- (

001 you be lost without 007 buddy am slightly older than 007 just resting the eye lids never sleeping

PS so am I right in the one of four? :-) (y)

{Ed007's Note - I was just up about meds thanks. Of course you're right, I've been telling you for long enough who's been causing problems, it's nothing new from him either. People forget NL had the exact same problems with Commons.}


26.) 03 Mar 2016 18:16:43
Good Ed, your health more important than the fitba (y)

Yip I thought so bud I pay attention :P

Chalk that one up to being right again on to my fifth pack of chalk this year alone :)

{Ed007's Note - Awww Here you go.. (*)


 

 

26 Feb 2016 19:09:36
Does anyone know if there are any apps I can load on my firestick to stream the games?

Pattybhoy

1.) 26 Feb 2016 19:36:11
Wookie.


2.) 26 Feb 2016 22:06:35
blackbox is best for firestick its a small build takes little memory.


 

 

24 Feb 2016 07:21:48
Question for timalloy, who do you place your penalty bets with? It's not an option with my online bookie. I see bar a had another pen against Arsenal last night.

Pattybhoy

1.) 24 Feb 2016 17:13:14
He can sign a pre contract with clubs in the summer unusual contract but true.

{Ed002's Note - No, James Forrest has a contract like any other player. It finishes in June and he can sign a pre-contract with any non Scottish club now if he wishes. The interest is from Norwich and Les Ferdinand is also considering a scout's report on him.}


2.) 24 Feb 2016 17:13:47
@pattybhoy I am with Sly but other online bookmakers do it also shop around for best odds and offers. Myself I never had my penalty bet on last night, how stupid am I?


 

 

 

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03 Mar 2016 09:15:13
Well very worrying times ahead if the board intend to do nothing. The status quo just won't do.

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03 Mar 2016 09:01:59
That's a disgraceful attitude for any professional player.
Do you know the reasons for the players not doing it for Ronny? Is it a personal dislike?
Do you think Ronny is going to keep his job with all this against him?

Pattybhoy

{Ed001's Note - my personal opinion is that the player is just a lazy *censored* whose main issue seems to be not wanting to work hard in training. Though he makes numerous excuses, it always seems to come back to that. He just wants to lark about.}


 

 





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