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16 Sep 2016 08:16:20
Ed quick one.
I know we are losing coefficient points at end of season.
Do you know the way we were in pot 4 and Barcelona were in pot 1, who gets most points for a win, surely they are ranking us lower so we should get more points. Also does the scoreline as in 7 reflect negatively on points.

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{Ed007's Note -The opposition and scoreline are immaterial, every team gets 2 coefficient points for a win and 1 for draw in the CL group stages and beyond.}


1.) 16 Sep 2016 09:07:08
Do the qualifying rounds give points.

{Ed007's Note - Only if you're eliminated during them and except the Play-Off round because you go into the EL. If you qualify for the group stages you get 4 points.}


2.) 16 Sep 2016 14:51:06
It's quite the rich get richer. Barcelona qualify automatically
Celiac have to play qualifiers
(We're as some teams finish second or third in there league qualify automatically) . Then by uefas own admission as by the seeding we have to play teams that they have deemed better, and what's our reward for beating the odds the same. The champs league is a fraud how do they expect any team to evolve when it's all geared against you. The Europe league seems to be a fairer draw.


 

 

16 Sep 2016 08:11:52
Just to point a few results out
Alkmaar 1- 1 ten MaN Dundalk
Feyenord 1-0 man united
Spurs 0- 1 Monaco
Inter 0-2 beer sheeva
Obviously these results are no reflection of were the leagues are, but they are reflectory of the determination of the players and the shewness of the manager, I think that's were we faulted the other night. Not saying that Barcelona are not far superior team, but if you take the average length that a ball is in play which is between 50 - 55mins and we had 11 percent poccession and conceived 7 goals. Which means we conceived a goal approximately every 8mins and only held on to the ball for approximately 6/ 7 mind of open play. It doesn't make good reading. I think the was a stategic plan by Rodgers which didn't work, left the players nothing to work with and gave barce something that helped them the ball. Rodgers is a good manager and us still learning, which I have total faith that this won't happen again. It will be interesting to see the team thus weekend.

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1.) 16 Sep 2016 09:06:08
None of those teams are even close to Barcelona so I've no idea what your point is.

Also 3 of those games are Europa league which is a completely diff competition.

BR was at fault, the players are also at fault but the fans who had a romantic notion of us getting anything over in Barcelona can only blame themselves. Weve not been in the CL for 3 years and don't qualify year in year out so we have no real pedigree. Barcelona on the other hand have won there group 15 times lol there is no comparison. I was really disappointed with the score but hand on heart wasn't suprised.


2.) 16 Sep 2016 11:26:12
There is a way to play Barcelona and there is s way not to play Barcelona.


3.) 16 Sep 2016 11:39:05
That's deep aindoh.


4.) 16 Sep 2016 12:01:01
I wouldn't really say Rodgers was at fault it was Barcelona at Nou Camp. I thought the formation picked was what I had hoped for away in Europe. To me tiredness was a big factor. Brown was at fault the first two goals and DDV well say no more I haven't really seen him make a proper save at all yet and we all thought Gordon was bad. Said a lot before the end of the window we are too soft in the middle of the park and we needed a strong CDM or two otherwise we will get embarrassed against this group.


5.) 16 Sep 2016 12:36:42
Spurs 0-1 Monaco? Am sure it was 2-1 Monaco lol. Pointless post anyway none r in Barcelona class.


6.) 16 Sep 2016 12:54:27
Christ they are still at it.

quick coupla questions

1) at this stage and time do you think that celtic could possibly have / lured a better manager than BR?

2) at this stage and time do you think celtic could possibly have better players than Toure, Erik, Lustig, Brown, Sinclair, Forrest, Griffiths, Dembele?

If you answer is No to any of these - then you are deluded son, and you can go back writing posts for la la land where you expect Muriniho, Ibrahimovic, et al to join at the next window because they only have a year left on their contract and they said once they liked parkheid and ill leave you alone.


 

 

14 Sep 2016 12:08:23
I think I was pissed off more so because I hyped up myself. I believed going into match a draw was unlikely but possible, and that if we were going get beat it be 2/ 3 at the most. Looking back over unbiased without my green tinted glasses on. We got beat by a far superior team which cost more then we have ever spent on transfers I heard one commentator stating. It was inedivable. My expectations last night were quite unfair on a team that went to war on Saturday morning. It was always going to be our hardest game.
One positive, the cash spent on Sinclair you could even see last night against players that make what he gets a month in a day that he's well worth it.

Hail hail.

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1.) 14 Sep 2016 13:34:38
I was disappointed on deadline day - even though I said we should bank cash now and buy big next window - but on the day I was let down when the only thing Brendan bought was a Tuna Sandwich, all down to my expectation and 24 hr SSNHQWERTY

last night was expecting defeat - and knew it could have been bad - so not too deflated.


2.) 14 Sep 2016 16:28:06
It's not a simple question of matching player's current club's valuation ( which is now crazy due to the ridiculous money in the ( EPL) but we usually would have to pay a small ransom to encourage players to move from main stream football to our critically ill league . We should be grateful that Sinclair and Toura appreciated playing for B R whose reputation got us Dembele as well.
I Ann sure everyone involved in recruiting players to Celtic tried this summer, and met with some success but let's face it even if we had signed a couple more £6- £10 m players we would still have been beaten by the Barcelona team that has been rested and fully prepared to play at their best . Giving away early goal only wrote the script for the rest of the game . Note Barcelona wern't prepared to sit on four or five like other clubs have they kept going for goals until the last second .


 

 

13 Sep 2016 22:07:14
I honestly think Gordon by not been on pitch tonight has just nailed himself as #1. With no doubt.
I also think with us 1nil down to the best side in club football. Dembele should not b takn the pen, think captain or Senior man like lustig should of taking it.
Scott Sinclair, build a team around that lad what a talent that shUn out it that performance.
Gamboa I know it was his debut but you can see the defencive rust on him

Also when you play 5 at the back and 2 holdING mids we were never going to keep ball and we are always inviting them on to us. If you do not wan best strike force to score then starve them. Don't let keeper just lash ball up pitch and invite them on.

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1.) 13 Sep 2016 22:27:41
Totaly agree with you, the weakest part of Barcelona is their defence, by sitting back and surrendering the midfield is suicide, did Barcelona not get beat 7-0, by Bayern the other year, or am I getting mixed up.


2.) 13 Sep 2016 22:38:02
Captain Hindsight.

100% guarantee if Lustig or brown take and miss that penalty, you're on here saying it should be attacking player, or Moussa as his confidence would be sky high.

He took it- he'd 2 from 2- and he missed. It happens. It'll happen again.


3.) 13 Sep 2016 23:04:34
Don't give me captain hindsight shit. You could tell by his game tonight he wasn't in it. if a senior player toik it and miss it they can take the flax. But he's 20 and still trying to settle, on a high from scoring a hat trick against the huns and now he's sitting their after missing a big one. Yes if he scored he be superman, burst he missed at 1nil so do one with your if he, he didn't and now at twenty and still settling he has to deal with it. You try getting him in to a game for this weekend.


4.) 13 Sep 2016 23:25:52
You're talking utter gash. Go have a word with yourself - your entire point is based in hindsight. If it wasn't, it'd have been up before 7:45 tonight.


5.) 13 Sep 2016 23:29:55
even messi, neymar and suarez miss pens.


6.) 13 Sep 2016 23:39:45
What a load off mince lol.

The guy who scored a hatrick at the weekend was always the logical choice to take it and the poeticpatient is spot on you would moan if broony missed or lustig.

The miss imo is completely irrelevant and we got shown up by a perfectly good team. We were all full of beans after Saturday about how great we are and that's true in the domestic front but in Europe we and Scottish football are miles behind.

And i am puzzled at the short term memories of some fans that have slated CG for long enough but now want him back in the team after the gk has played 3 games, kinda hypocritical but hay ho.
And i'm just waiting for tierney to start getting it which seems to be happening already.

The CL really brings out the worst in some fans and some need a reality check.

HH.


7.) 13 Sep 2016 23:43:56
We haven't got players with enough ability to put Barcelona under pressure in their defence. In the first half we did get a couple breakaways that showed weaknesses .
I must say I counted 6 Celtic players in the Barcelona half once in first half .
We had to have a defensive mid-field covering our back line . We didn't do that well enough as Barcelona could run and slip the ball through our midfield and defence, leaving different players in our team not knowing what to do.
Let's hope we have learned, get some attacks going and protect our defence .

{Ed007's Note - Iniesta coming on at half-time changed the game. I didn't think our first half performance was that bad, Chris but we just couldn't touch them in that second half.}


8.) 14 Sep 2016 00:38:50
You seem to be missing the point I'm trying to get across at 1nil and with a pen, a very important one to add, if it's converted puts all the pressure on Barcelona and alleviates ours. A senior man taking and missing yes if he misses can and will get abuse but can handle it. At twenty that was a pressure pen and he fluffed it, hope for our sake it doesn't get to him. I'm not for one min saying if he scored we win game but am saying it would be different game with us having more confidence on the ball
Ye ed iniesra bossed game when he came on.
Do you think ratikic knee into browns are was a reflection upon the game. We were breaking they still had good numbers in defence but chose to take one for the team, something we lacked that your not even getting go, it some up there whole ethic disrupt your play, keep our play goingames and never Chang our style, and it is some style.


9.) 14 Sep 2016 02:29:02
I did get your point- I just thought (and continue to think) it's nonsense.


10.) 14 Sep 2016 08:50:08
I got your point too we missed a pen and got skelped 7-0.
Your also a CG fan which is unusual but everyone is entitled and all that.

I think bhoys the harsh reality is Barcelona had another gear in them and we are out of our depth playing the elite.


11.) 14 Sep 2016 12:57:51
we weren't playing the elite - we were playing the elite of the elite

we are thinking back to that brilliant night, at 1-0 up, watt broke free and we were 2-0 up against them. and held on at 2-1

what we should be contemplating is the last time we were there it was 6-1, we have improved greatly - but so have they!


12.) 14 Sep 2016 13:19:04
Brilliant point Digi, and in addition:

The fact they are the elite of the elite is why that 2-1 result was spoke of (and continues to thought of) in such high regard.


 

 

12 Sep 2016 12:04:13
Cruising too work and seven nation army by white stripes came on. The instrumental part that everyone knows "dummm dum dum dum dummmmm" (sorry don't know how to right it) lines up perfect for (apologies in advance for trying to write it the way it be sung)
"Ahhhh moooosa dem belleee" 60,000 singing in Celtic park. Try it been stuck in my head 5th ours now.

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1.) 12 Sep 2016 18:00:01
All the way round work today had that in my head.


 

 

 

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10 Sep 2016 02:47:02
I don't know but as I've being drinking myself I hope you have being drinking yourself and your being pessimistic and poor griff won't make it. Dembele won't need luck against that lot, he has class (something they lack) and hopefully please god he now has a bit of confidence and he's settled because he has skill in abundance.

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07 Sep 2016 11:07:09
What about the sunshine band? Did kc leave? Did he get too big for his boots?

Nah nah nah nah nah give it up.

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28 Aug 2016 00:25:57
Nice price but wait not good enough for West Bromwich but good enough for celtic in champs league.
We should pass and go bigger. Maybe as a squad player but realistically, he's not getting his game at West Bromwich nor has hever so he'd have to prove himself and learn how we play and we have that with janko. Just go and get florian klein (stuttgart) only one year left, gets his game for club and country (austria) and had a good euros.

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27 Aug 2016 14:14:13
Let's see what this keeper can do, easy to say br rates him, I hope Aberdeen test him.
Glad to see sviatchencko back.
Surely games like today is were janko should be learning his trade and getting experience instead of giving bombs care in important matches.
Mixed feelings on mcgregor but if he is what I believe to be which is groomed as holding mid. The bench against Aberdeen is good for him to watch were he should be instead were he does be.
Should development not start to be getting game time at this stage.
Grif may start to need a rest.
Love Roberts and sinclair and his attitude.
Quite happy with the rest.
Should win.
Great squad.
Commons. ahhhhhhhhhhh

Oh by the way I'm never happy if you haven't noticed always will look for improvement, because we can always improve.

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26 Aug 2016 10:14:48
Well said shugmckie. He had a good 9 months which he was exceptional (everyone remembers that) but that was a long time ago. Problem I think with him is arrogance. By the sounds of it he was offered a couple of decent contracts which were not up to his evaluation of himself. He's done nothing for a good while and has been mostly a passenger. Now forrest I wanted rid and was gobsmacked when he got offered new deal, but you can see why, were as it seems johanson has/ cant/ doesn't want to give anymore and for that he has go but with a thank you for what he has done. There is one or two that can join him also.

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16 Sep 2016 14:51:06
It's quite the rich get richer. Barcelona qualify automatically
Celiac have to play qualifiers
(We're as some teams finish second or third in there league qualify automatically) . Then by uefas own admission as by the seeding we have to play teams that they have deemed better, and what's our reward for beating the odds the same. The champs league is a fraud how do they expect any team to evolve when it's all geared against you. The Europe league seems to be a fairer draw.

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16 Sep 2016 09:07:08
Do the qualifying rounds give points.

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{Ed007's Note - Only if you're eliminated during them and except the Play-Off round because you go into the EL. If you qualify for the group stages you get 4 points.}


 

 

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14 Sep 2016 11:57:15
That made me smile.

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14 Sep 2016 00:38:50
You seem to be missing the point I'm trying to get across at 1nil and with a pen, a very important one to add, if it's converted puts all the pressure on Barcelona and alleviates ours. A senior man taking and missing yes if he misses can and will get abuse but can handle it. At twenty that was a pressure pen and he fluffed it, hope for our sake it doesn't get to him. I'm not for one min saying if he scored we win game but am saying it would be different game with us having more confidence on the ball
Ye ed iniesra bossed game when he came on.
Do you think ratikic knee into browns are was a reflection upon the game. We were breaking they still had good numbers in defence but chose to take one for the team, something we lacked that your not even getting go, it some up there whole ethic disrupt your play, keep our play goingames and never Chang our style, and it is some style.

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13 Sep 2016 23:04:34
Don't give me captain hindsight shit. You could tell by his game tonight he wasn't in it. if a senior player toik it and miss it they can take the flax. But he's 20 and still trying to settle, on a high from scoring a hat trick against the huns and now he's sitting their after missing a big one. Yes if he scored he be superman, burst he missed at 1nil so do one with your if he, he didn't and now at twenty and still settling he has to deal with it. You try getting him in to a game for this weekend.

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