22 Feb 2025 11:20:44
Celtic XI: Schmeichel, Johnston, Carter-Vickers, Trusty, Taylor, McGregor, McCowan, Engels, Kühn, Idah, Maeda.
Subs: Sinisalo, Scales, Jota, Yang, Schlupp, Kenny, Hatate, Ralston, Bonnar.
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22 Feb 2025 12:16:01
Afternoon lads HH
Afternoon lads HH
22 Feb 2025 12:18:28
good afternoon mate. Lets get the 3 points
good afternoon mate. Lets get the 3 points
22 Feb 2025 12:20:31
Good afternoon friends.
Good afternoon friends.
22 Feb 2025 12:22:25
This game only oan celtic tv?
This game only oan celtic tv?
22 Feb 2025 12:24:47
It's on Prem2 if you can access it?
It's on Prem2 if you can access it?
22 Feb 2025 12:26:09
Cheers oab
Cheers oab
22 Feb 2025 12:27:11
I don’t think the Hibees have been beaten since we beat them.
I don’t think the Hibees have been beaten since we beat them.
22 Feb 2025 12:27:42
They say unbeaten in 12 including a 3-3 with Sevco JFP
They say unbeaten in 12 including a 3-3 with Sevco JFP
22 Feb 2025 12:27:54
HH troops
HH troops
22 Feb 2025 12:28:18
Gerry Bhoy 👍
Gerry Bhoy 👍
22 Feb 2025 12:29:11
Any win will do as always
Any win will do as always
22 Feb 2025 12:29:37
Jfp🍀
Jfp🍀
22 Feb 2025 12:30:14
HH troops
HH troops
22 Feb 2025 12:30:28
Edward 👍
Edward 👍
22 Feb 2025 12:30:31
Hi Gerry. Don't want to jinx it but been really enjoying watching us play this past month and hope we carry on the good form today - even after the CL game.
Hi Gerry. Don't want to jinx it but been really enjoying watching us play this past month and hope we carry on the good form today - even after the CL game.
22 Feb 2025 12:31:13
Weird Edinburgh folk
Weird Edinburgh folk
22 Feb 2025 12:31:18
Afternoon all
Afternoon all
22 Feb 2025 12:31:26
BB , yes any win will do but nice to get a 2/3 goal lead to take pressure off
BB , yes any win will do but nice to get a 2/3 goal lead to take pressure off
22 Feb 2025 12:31:48
HH All, they’ve had a wee run,but if we’re not too tired we should give them a pumpin
HH All, they’ve had a wee run,but if we’re not too tired we should give them a pumpin
22 Feb 2025 12:31:52
Strong team selection as it should be.
Strong team selection as it should be.
22 Feb 2025 12:32:14
Malika…👍
Malika…👍
22 Feb 2025 12:32:56
That wee matt Lucas looking linesman is brutal
That wee matt Lucas looking linesman is brutal
22 Feb 2025 12:33:27
Weird indeed Boab….i was working there yesterday….they think Edinburgh is the capital…..
Weird indeed Boab….i was working there yesterday….they think Edinburgh is the capital…..
22 Feb 2025 12:33:41
🤣
🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:33:54
Stirling is the capital 💪
Stirling is the capital 💪
22 Feb 2025 12:34:45
Fairhill's the capital of the world
Fairhill's the capital of the world
22 Feb 2025 12:34:49
Afternoon lads
Afternoon lads
22 Feb 2025 12:35:03
Steady Boab….unless yir fae the raploch in which case i agree 100%…
Steady Boab….unless yir fae the raploch in which case i agree 100%…
22 Feb 2025 12:35:17
NahBoab, When people ask me what the capital of Scotland is, I answer...The letter "S"
NahBoab, When people ask me what the capital of Scotland is, I answer...The letter "S"
22 Feb 2025 12:35:34
Fs
Fs
22 Feb 2025 12:35:42
Blantyre JFP near that handsome lad Mark
Blantyre JFP near that handsome lad Mark
22 Feb 2025 12:35:52
Defence sleeping
Defence sleeping
22 Feb 2025 12:35:56
That’s cracking football from them,that’ll wake us up big time
That’s cracking football from them,that’ll wake us up big time
22 Feb 2025 12:35:56
(swear)
(swear)
22 Feb 2025 12:35:58
Ur way ahead Kev
Ur way ahead Kev
22 Feb 2025 12:36:11
Ffs
Ffs
22 Feb 2025 12:36:21
Jesus I'm miles behind
Jesus I'm miles behind
22 Feb 2025 12:36:32
Think Al leave hate that when folk minutes in front
Think Al leave hate that when folk minutes in front
22 Feb 2025 12:36:38
So was trusty gerry
So was trusty gerry
22 Feb 2025 12:36:43
Still waiting
Still waiting
22 Feb 2025 12:36:50
Kev🤣
Kev🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:36:59
I will hold aff if I am that far ahead
I will hold aff if I am that far ahead
22 Feb 2025 12:37:00
Where was Trusty
Where was Trusty
22 Feb 2025 12:37:01
I don't believe it
I don't believe it
22 Feb 2025 12:37:04
Enjoy lads 🙄
Enjoy lads 🙄
22 Feb 2025 12:37:33
Full defence wide open
Full defence wide open
22 Feb 2025 12:37:38
Kev your nearly in yesterday….
Kev your nearly in yesterday….
22 Feb 2025 12:38:18
Think I'm about 2 more ns behind
Think I'm about 2 more ns behind
22 Feb 2025 12:38:28
Bob I will wait till rest start to cheer, don't need to go off
Bob I will wait till rest start to cheer, don't need to go off
22 Feb 2025 12:39:20
Kev….did Brian leave you his tele? 😊
Kev….did Brian leave you his tele? 😊
22 Feb 2025 12:39:35
Trusty chasing away up park then calmac no tucking in to cover.
Trusty chasing away up park then calmac no tucking in to cover.
22 Feb 2025 12:39:48
😂 😂 JFP
😂 😂 JFP
22 Feb 2025 12:40:29
😂
😂
22 Feb 2025 12:40:53
Jfp🤣🤣🤣
Jfp🤣🤣🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:41:03
Oor heids are still in Germany
Oor heids are still in Germany
22 Feb 2025 12:41:11
Troops...
Troops...
22 Feb 2025 12:41:57
Malika….did you see Bik McFarlane died yesterday…
Malika….did you see Bik McFarlane died yesterday…
22 Feb 2025 12:42:09
Great save Kasper, we’re at a sea here
Great save Kasper, we’re at a sea here
22 Feb 2025 12:42:31
Gonny get pumped here 🤦🙄
Gonny get pumped here 🤦🙄
22 Feb 2025 12:42:31
Hibs are in great form and we're always going to start quick. See this wee spell out and we will take control
Hibs are in great form and we're always going to start quick. See this wee spell out and we will take control
22 Feb 2025 12:42:55
Aye JFP, there were a lot of tributes, Mary Lou give a great one
Aye JFP, there were a lot of tributes, Mary Lou give a great one
22 Feb 2025 12:42:57
That’s true Kev
That’s true Kev
22 Feb 2025 12:43:40
A legend Malika.
A legend Malika.
22 Feb 2025 12:43:46
Least we can all moan about him no making changes 🤣
Least we can all moan about him no making changes 🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:44:05
Mon Celts settle down and do your stuff
Mon Celts settle down and do your stuff
22 Feb 2025 12:44:20
Very soft spoken,great ballad singer,
Very soft spoken,great ballad singer,
22 Feb 2025 12:44:57
1-0 down and the Huns getting millions….we’re in jeopardy…..😊
1-0 down and the Huns getting millions….we’re in jeopardy…..😊
22 Feb 2025 12:45:14
A song for Marcellla is class Malika….
A song for Marcellla is class Malika….
22 Feb 2025 12:45:25
Surely billions Jfp
Surely billions Jfp
22 Feb 2025 12:45:49
Sorry Foxi….your right…
Sorry Foxi….your right…
22 Feb 2025 12:46:06
This carry oan with them not playing advantage needs called out.
This carry oan with them not playing advantage needs called out.
22 Feb 2025 12:46:23
No rotation plus the Huns more money than us now that’s the cause here 🤣
No rotation plus the Huns more money than us now that’s the cause here 🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:47:47
It’s my favourite strip in league after us and they’ve the best football anthem anywhere.
It’s my favourite strip in league after us and they’ve the best football anthem anywhere.
22 Feb 2025 12:48:03
I think we have often conceded that type of goal against Hibsc
I think we have often conceded that type of goal against Hibsc
22 Feb 2025 12:48:42
I hate hibs as much as I hate hearts
I hate hibs as much as I hate hearts
22 Feb 2025 12:49:21
I hate every **** even Masel 🤣
I hate every **** even Masel 🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:49:38
Boab🤣
Boab🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:50:14
Kev hearts just slightly behind the Huns for meh. Hibs don't bother me but I'm no having a **** over them either
Kev hearts just slightly behind the Huns for meh. Hibs don't bother me but I'm no having a **** over them either
22 Feb 2025 12:50:40
Taylor obv wasn’t taught to get over it when shooting
Taylor obv wasn’t taught to get over it when shooting
22 Feb 2025 12:50:54
Huns,Killie,hearts all scum
Huns,Killie,hearts all scum
22 Feb 2025 12:50:56
If I’d £20 million I’d buy them….sign all Catholic Clubs players….get Neil Lennon to manage them….and I’d sell the naming rights to their stadium to Sinn Fein for a £1…
If I’d £20 million I’d buy them….sign all Catholic Clubs players….get Neil Lennon to manage them….and I’d sell the naming rights to their stadium to Sinn Fein for a £1…
22 Feb 2025 12:51:08
We look well off it here
We look well off it here
22 Feb 2025 12:51:29
Jfp🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jfp🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
22 Feb 2025 12:51:38
Jfp:-D
Jfp:-D
22 Feb 2025 12:51:47
Our time will come
Our time will come
22 Feb 2025 12:52:04
Hibs tried to get us put out of Scottish football gerry, they then made that agreement to play out a game against the mob which guaranteed them the league under mowbray. Fuuck them
Hibs tried to get us put out of Scottish football gerry, they then made that agreement to play out a game against the mob which guaranteed them the league under mowbray. Fuuck them
22 Feb 2025 12:52:55
Even Daizen looks tired
Even Daizen looks tired
22 Feb 2025 12:53:05
Kev didn't know that. Fuck them right enough
Kev didn't know that. Fuck them right enough
22 Feb 2025 12:53:34
There's some good folk in the Hibs support ;-)
There's some good folk in the Hibs support ;-)
22 Feb 2025 12:53:56
We have no friends or allies in Scottish football unlike other clubs
We have no friends or allies in Scottish football unlike other clubs
22 Feb 2025 12:54:11
Was under mowbray. Why I didn't want him as our manager in first place.
Was under mowbray. Why I didn't want him as our manager in first place.
22 Feb 2025 12:54:31
There may be some good uns but they are very hard to find
There may be some good uns but they are very hard to find
22 Feb 2025 12:54:50
Any the older Hibees I know detest the mob and see us as their second club...might be a generational thing.
Any the older Hibees I know detest the mob and see us as their second club...might be a generational thing.
22 Feb 2025 12:55:22
I don’t know OAB…..the post match Queens Park dressing room looked fenian friendly….
I don’t know OAB…..the post match Queens Park dressing room looked fenian friendly….
22 Feb 2025 12:55:32
Terrible there Idah,horrible touch
Terrible there Idah,horrible touch
22 Feb 2025 12:55:33
There's plenty about the band scene, especially the annual James Connolly parade
There's plenty about the band scene, especially the annual James Connolly parade
22 Feb 2025 12:55:42
Idah having a stinker
Idah having a stinker
22 Feb 2025 12:55:54
Taylor is having a stinker
Taylor is having a stinker
22 Feb 2025 12:55:55
Horrific touch Idah
Horrific touch Idah
22 Feb 2025 12:56:23
Aye right enough JFP I was focused on top tier
Aye right enough JFP I was focused on top tier
22 Feb 2025 12:57:45
That’s a horrid tackle from Taylor
That’s a horrid tackle from Taylor
22 Feb 2025 12:57:58
Get taylor of now
Get taylor of now
22 Feb 2025 12:58:01
Red?
Red?
22 Feb 2025 12:58:15
Believe it or not it was over the tri-colour they were trying to get us out league. Trying to force kelly to take it down etc
Believe it or not it was over the tri-colour they were trying to get us out league. Trying to force kelly to take it down etc
22 Feb 2025 12:58:24
Get Schlup dog on….
Get Schlup dog on….
22 Feb 2025 12:58:50
Kev that's mental. Didn't realise Hibs were involved in that
Kev that's mental. Didn't realise Hibs were involved in that
22 Feb 2025 12:59:04
Taylor has been really aff it since the Tierney talk and then we signed Schlupp
Taylor has been really aff it since the Tierney talk and then we signed Schlupp
22 Feb 2025 12:59:41
McCowan weak as **** there
McCowan weak as **** there
22 Feb 2025 13:00:05
We are struggling here so far
We are struggling here so far
22 Feb 2025 13:00:17
How bad a ball was that from Kuhn
How bad a ball was that from Kuhn
22 Feb 2025 13:00:54
Aye gerry, they were driving force behind a guy called George Graeme, Harry Swan was hibs chairman at time.
Aye gerry, they were driving force behind a guy called George Graeme, Harry Swan was hibs chairman at time.
22 Feb 2025 13:00:55
So much possession but little to show for it
So much possession but little to show for it
22 Feb 2025 13:01:26
Hibs never forgave Celtic because players left them to join Celtic after we were formed . They had a wee bit of an anti Irish angle after that
Hibs never forgave Celtic because players left them to join Celtic after we were formed . They had a wee bit of an anti Irish angle after that
22 Feb 2025 13:01:40
Final ball every time has let us down
Final ball every time has let us down
22 Feb 2025 13:02:06
Only johnstone really standing out here
Only johnstone really standing out here
22 Feb 2025 13:02:50
These late offsides are crazy. Sure this wee guy was flag happy in a game recently
These late offsides are crazy. Sure this wee guy was flag happy in a game recently
22 Feb 2025 13:02:58
Arne Slot is a feckin awful linesman
Arne Slot is a feckin awful linesman
22 Feb 2025 13:03:16
Great save
Great save
22 Feb 2025 13:03:20
We are building up a bit of steam , after Tuesday night & woeful start .if we don’t let them score a 2 nd we will be ok
We are building up a bit of steam , after Tuesday night & woeful start .if we don’t let them score a 2 nd we will be ok
22 Feb 2025 13:03:22
He’s a ringer 😂
He’s a ringer 😂
22 Feb 2025 13:04:34
Mon Celts that's better
Mon Celts that's better
22 Feb 2025 13:04:53
Matt Lucas linesman hate him
Matt Lucas linesman hate him
22 Feb 2025 13:05:16
Sure that’s red card red card guy
Sure that’s red card red card guy
22 Feb 2025 13:05:32
Simunovic red mind
Simunovic red mind
22 Feb 2025 13:05:45
No that was the politico
No that was the politico
22 Feb 2025 13:06:11
Naw that was wee tory baastard
Naw that was wee tory baastard
22 Feb 2025 13:06:24
That was Tory B Ross
That was Tory B Ross
22 Feb 2025 13:06:27
Red card ross
Red card ross
22 Feb 2025 13:06:39
Wee prick
Wee prick
22 Feb 2025 13:06:48
Sure he’s done us over a few times too right enough
Sure he’s done us over a few times too right enough
22 Feb 2025 13:07:11
I never use the word hate but I seriously dislike Ross….wee Tory Brit feck…..
I never use the word hate but I seriously dislike Ross….wee Tory Brit feck…..
22 Feb 2025 13:07:14
Think they all have Boab
Think they all have Boab
22 Feb 2025 13:07:26
That was a shocking free kick
That was a shocking free kick
22 Feb 2025 13:07:39
Refs & assistants reckon things will be soon back to the good old days as Rangers 2012 will be able to donate like the dead club did to refs& assistants
Refs & assistants reckon things will be soon back to the good old days as Rangers 2012 will be able to donate like the dead club did to refs& assistants
22 Feb 2025 13:07:59
3 hibs down and out 😂
3 hibs down and out 😂
22 Feb 2025 13:08:21
They took a few casualties there 😂
They took a few casualties there 😂
22 Feb 2025 13:08:42
Huns worth billions out of CL and league back on 🤣🤣
Huns worth billions out of CL and league back on 🤣🤣
22 Feb 2025 13:09:11
That’ll be the shout
That’ll be the shout
22 Feb 2025 13:09:30
Is there a gunner in the crowd. 🤣
Is there a gunner in the crowd. 🤣
22 Feb 2025 13:09:50
Gerry :-(
Gerry :-(
22 Feb 2025 13:09:59
:-D
:-D
22 Feb 2025 13:10:24
Getting fuuck all fae this clown
Getting fuuck all fae this clown
22 Feb 2025 13:10:37
HT rocket required
HT rocket required
22 Feb 2025 13:10:42
Big Casper's starting to get ****ed off wi that linesman
Big Casper's starting to get ****ed off wi that linesman
22 Feb 2025 13:11:05
Synchronised diving are Hibs entering the new Olympics
Synchronised diving are Hibs entering the new Olympics
22 Feb 2025 13:11:16
That wasn’t a second corner there lol
That wasn’t a second corner there lol
22 Feb 2025 13:11:17
lol
lol
22 Feb 2025 13:11:50
There was a guy wae a big heid in our local in Shettleston before the game….annoying the barmaid….the barmaid said….sit on yir arse you….your heid is a snipers dream…..
There was a guy wae a big heid in our local in Shettleston before the game….annoying the barmaid….the barmaid said….sit on yir arse you….your heid is a snipers dream…..
22 Feb 2025 13:12:32
Railway?
Railway?
22 Feb 2025 13:12:45
A can’t slag heads off av got a medicine baw anaw JFP🤣
A can’t slag heads off av got a medicine baw anaw JFP🤣
22 Feb 2025 13:13:07
JFP 🤣😂🤣🤣
JFP 🤣😂🤣🤣
22 Feb 2025 13:13:39
That's like our ed except he's a snipers nightmare
That's like our ed except he's a snipers nightmare
22 Feb 2025 13:14:20
Walk like I've got a stone in my shoe
Walk like I've got a stone in my shoe
22 Feb 2025 13:15:37
Mark🤣 you walk like a steaming penguin
Mark🤣 you walk like a steaming penguin
22 Feb 2025 13:15:51
Mon Celts gie yerselves a shake
Mon Celts gie yerselves a shake
22 Feb 2025 13:15:53
(rofl) (rofl)
(rofl) (rofl)
22 Feb 2025 13:16:03
Surely the easy pass was better there
Surely the easy pass was better there
22 Feb 2025 13:16:44
The guy in front of me shouted at Wilo Flood wan day…..take the baw wae ye po
The guy in front of me shouted at Wilo Flood wan day…..take the baw wae ye po
22 Feb 2025 13:16:52
pee-heid.
pee-heid.
22 Feb 2025 13:17:03
Kuhn has been murder
Kuhn has been murder
22 Feb 2025 13:17:07
Game is just stop start. Need to wake up
Game is just stop start. Need to wake up
22 Feb 2025 13:17:34
Come on Idah wake up,look up
Come on Idah wake up,look up
22 Feb 2025 13:17:39
They have all been shocking here
They have all been shocking here
22 Feb 2025 13:17:47
Chalk and cheese from Tuesday
Chalk and cheese from Tuesday
22 Feb 2025 13:17:53
Idah poor poor poor
Idah poor poor poor
22 Feb 2025 13:18:02
Idah has been piss poor
Idah has been piss poor
22 Feb 2025 13:18:03
My brother goat a heed like an orange oan a toothpick.
My brother goat a heed like an orange oan a toothpick.
22 Feb 2025 13:18:10
Why does he not pass there
Why does he not pass there
22 Feb 2025 13:18:15
😊
😊
22 Feb 2025 13:18:40
Needing a team head wobble at half time man.
Needing a team head wobble at half time man.
22 Feb 2025 13:18:54
Get Shlupp on for GT move Daizen up front and take Idah off for jota
Get Shlupp on for GT move Daizen up front and take Idah off for jota
22 Feb 2025 13:19:11
Every 50/50 decision goes against us here
Every 50/50 decision goes against us here
22 Feb 2025 13:19:58
I know I’m in the minority but we still need a Broon replacement in the middle of the park.
I know I’m in the minority but we still need a Broon replacement in the middle of the park.
22 Feb 2025 13:19:59
Expected that with McLean. He's another current
Expected that with McLean. He's another current
22 Feb 2025 13:20:08
It did Calmac there though
It did Calmac there though
22 Feb 2025 13:20:12
Hit
Hit
22 Feb 2025 13:20:47
I'm in that minority too jfp
I'm in that minority too jfp
22 Feb 2025 13:21:10
Engels doesn't look as comfortable oan the left side.
Engels doesn't look as comfortable oan the left side.
22 Feb 2025 13:21:16
I think Idah will come good here,it’s his type of game, plenty of low crosses and get his foot in front. I’d give Maeda a rest after 60 mins
I think Idah will come good here,it’s his type of game, plenty of low crosses and get his foot in front. I’d give Maeda a rest after 60 mins
22 Feb 2025 13:21:22
I'd hook Idah at half time
I'd hook Idah at half time
22 Feb 2025 13:21:28
Idah having a horror show
Idah having a horror show
22 Feb 2025 13:21:35
Another Mjallby and a Larsson wouldnae be bad either JFP
Another Mjallby and a Larsson wouldnae be bad either JFP
22 Feb 2025 13:21:37
Oh no
Oh no
22 Feb 2025 13:21:58
Pish game over
Pish game over
22 Feb 2025 13:22:19
Jez oh,offside
Jez oh,offside
22 Feb 2025 13:22:22
Brown had many good games but he also had many poor games especially in his later yrs for us
Brown had many good games but he also had many poor games especially in his later yrs for us
22 Feb 2025 13:22:36
Been a shocker Celts
Been a shocker Celts
22 Feb 2025 13:22:37
Is it off at least
Is it off at least
22 Feb 2025 13:22:50
Awfully defending again
Awfully defending again
22 Feb 2025 13:23:05
he is and we are riding our luck
he is and we are riding our luck
22 Feb 2025 13:23:06
He look oan there
He look oan there
22 Feb 2025 13:23:18
Not off
Not off
22 Feb 2025 13:23:19
Looks on
Looks on
22 Feb 2025 13:23:24
Why can’t we buy a centre half that can put his head on the ball.
Why can’t we buy a centre half that can put his head on the ball.
22 Feb 2025 13:23:24
Mcgregor sleeping there again
Mcgregor sleeping there again
22 Feb 2025 13:23:27
Aye Kev,looks on to me
Aye Kev,looks on to me
22 Feb 2025 13:23:29
That’s us beat here
That’s us beat here
22 Feb 2025 13:23:37
Well oan
Well oan
22 Feb 2025 13:23:46
Never coming back
Never coming back
22 Feb 2025 13:24:22
Ffs
Ffs
22 Feb 2025 13:24:29
Well on
Well on
22 Feb 2025 13:24:30
Absolutely shocking today
Absolutely shocking today
22 Feb 2025 13:24:39
Long way to go,and they will never keep this pace up in the second half,
Long way to go,and they will never keep this pace up in the second half,
22 Feb 2025 13:25:01
We can come back fae this, but we need to improve massively
We can come back fae this, but we need to improve massively
22 Feb 2025 13:25:02
Gonny get pumped
Gonny get pumped
22 Feb 2025 13:25:13
Ida and Taylor ball watching
Ida and Taylor ball watching
22 Feb 2025 13:25:49
Been awful all over the pitch and a few of them need hooked
Been awful all over the pitch and a few of them need hooked
22 Feb 2025 13:25:55
Trusty playing him on and then not getting there
Trusty playing him on and then not getting there
22 Feb 2025 13:26:14
Mcgregor had to get out to Boyle. Giving him that amount of time to cross is criminal.
Mcgregor had to get out to Boyle. Giving him that amount of time to cross is criminal.
22 Feb 2025 13:26:16
From the highs and praises of midweek to this debacle!
From the highs and praises of midweek to this debacle!
22 Feb 2025 13:26:17
Keepers ball all day
Keepers ball all day
22 Feb 2025 13:26:34
Where’s the centre halfs?
Where’s the centre halfs?
22 Feb 2025 13:27:00
Foxi trust is picking his man up. Boy just pulls of idah and taylor
Foxi trust is picking his man up. Boy just pulls of idah and taylor
22 Feb 2025 13:27:35
No chance the keeper is getting there.
No chance the keeper is getting there.
22 Feb 2025 13:27:54
I blame both cb’s a straight forward ball in & neither get a head on it . Basically that shouldn’t happen & as Ed says often CCV not big enough. If we had dominant C B ball wouldn’t even been played in
I blame both cb’s a straight forward ball in & neither get a head on it . Basically that shouldn’t happen & as Ed says often CCV not big enough. If we had dominant C B ball wouldn’t even been played in
22 Feb 2025 13:28:13
Too many of them thinking they just need to turn up after Tuesday.
Too many of them thinking they just need to turn up after Tuesday.
22 Feb 2025 13:28:44
Watched it again there Kev is bang on Mcgregor to busy pointing and doesn't get out to boyle
Watched it again there Kev is bang on Mcgregor to busy pointing and doesn't get out to boyle
22 Feb 2025 13:28:48
A can’t see a revival here draw would be something at this point
A can’t see a revival here draw would be something at this point
22 Feb 2025 13:28:51
Youre right JB
Youre right JB
22 Feb 2025 13:29:26
Hibs have been up for it and first to every ball…Celtic just off the pace….Rodgers needs to change it at half time….get Idah aff….Jota on…and Maeda through the middle.
Hibs have been up for it and first to every ball…Celtic just off the pace….Rodgers needs to change it at half time….get Idah aff….Jota on…and Maeda through the middle.
22 Feb 2025 13:29:28
Balls in the air for a while keeper should be coming
Balls in the air for a while keeper should be coming
22 Feb 2025 13:30:37
If anything a see Hibs scoring another couple
If anything a see Hibs scoring another couple
22 Feb 2025 13:31:23
They are showing some stats and, apparently, WE had 76% possession. Wonder if that includes picking the ball out of the back of the net TWICE??
They are showing some stats and, apparently, WE had 76% possession. Wonder if that includes picking the ball out of the back of the net TWICE??
22 Feb 2025 13:31:34
Hibs 24% possession
Hibs 24% possession
22 Feb 2025 13:32:02
Just us fannying about other than 2 defensive lapses
Just us fannying about other than 2 defensive lapses
22 Feb 2025 13:32:08
You only need a few percent if your sticking it in the net
You only need a few percent if your sticking it in the net
22 Feb 2025 13:32:21
Maeda is deed oan his feet, we are drilling him in to the ground.
Maeda is deed oan his feet, we are drilling him in to the ground.
22 Feb 2025 13:33:05
Long as the mercurial Yang doesn’t come on🤦🙄
Long as the mercurial Yang doesn’t come on🤦🙄
22 Feb 2025 13:33:15
Get big schlupp on for a start
Get big schlupp on for a start
22 Feb 2025 13:33:19
Still not sure about trusty and idah think we could have got better for the money
Still not sure about trusty and idah think we could have got better for the money
22 Feb 2025 13:33:34
Trusty was great the other night
Trusty was great the other night
22 Feb 2025 13:33:42
all players have off games ffs
all players have off games ffs
22 Feb 2025 13:34:28
Idah still really raw doesn’t make the right decisions or look up enough
Idah still really raw doesn’t make the right decisions or look up enough
22 Feb 2025 13:38:40
Idah always looks like he's had nine buckets
Idah always looks like he's had nine buckets
22 Feb 2025 13:38:43
It is inevitable that Celtic wouldn’t come near the standards of Tuesday night . The whole team put in a tremendous effort . What shouldn’t happen is that a high ball into our area isn’t either goalies or Cb .Our goalies never come out . How can Trusty ‘s contribution be playing scorer on side & not challenging
It is inevitable that Celtic wouldn’t come near the standards of Tuesday night . The whole team put in a tremendous effort . What shouldn’t happen is that a high ball into our area isn’t either goalies or Cb .Our goalies never come out . How can Trusty ‘s contribution be playing scorer on side & not challenging
22 Feb 2025 13:38:56
I agree we’re drilling Maeda into the ground……the club let Rodgers down massively not replacing Kyogo….even if he didn’t let it kill his joy….
I agree we’re drilling Maeda into the ground……the club let Rodgers down massively not replacing Kyogo….even if he didn’t let it kill his joy….
22 Feb 2025 13:39:20
Trusty seems a better defender when we are under the cosh imo. Think he switches of when we are dominating.
Trusty seems a better defender when we are under the cosh imo. Think he switches of when we are dominating.
22 Feb 2025 13:40:42
That second goal was several players fault imo. Mcgregor, idah and trusty.
That second goal was several players fault imo. Mcgregor, idah and trusty.
22 Feb 2025 13:40:54
It's not just idah, the whole team have been sloppy. Hopefully get a big reaction and an early goal 🤞
It's not just idah, the whole team have been sloppy. Hopefully get a big reaction and an early goal 🤞
22 Feb 2025 13:41:13
3 changes made tells you everything
3 changes made tells you everything
22 Feb 2025 13:41:52
Kev . Probably right .Maybe Scales may have been a better choice .i think he would have at least challenged for high ball
Kev . Probably right .Maybe Scales may have been a better choice .i think he would have at least challenged for high ball
22 Feb 2025 13:42:07
Unusual for Brenda to change it at halftime
Unusual for Brenda to change it at halftime
22 Feb 2025 13:42:48
Mick he's no choice
Mick he's no choice
22 Feb 2025 13:43:00
BR not a happy manager today
BR not a happy manager today
22 Feb 2025 13:43:02
Who’s off for Reo?
Who’s off for Reo?
22 Feb 2025 13:43:17
McCowan
McCowan
22 Feb 2025 13:43:20
Mccowans
Mccowans
22 Feb 2025 13:43:31
👍
👍
22 Feb 2025 13:44:12
Welsh will keep us from getting upper hand
Welsh will keep us from getting upper hand
22 Feb 2025 13:44:13
It's the first real CL 'hangover' all season and it's disappointing but understandable. Changes had to be made and it could have been 6-7 candidates. This is when squad players show if they are Celtic class.
It's the first real CL 'hangover' all season and it's disappointing but understandable. Changes had to be made and it could have been 6-7 candidates. This is when squad players show if they are Celtic class.
22 Feb 2025 13:44:17
Schlupp for Taylor?
Schlupp for Taylor?
22 Feb 2025 13:44:27
Aye Gerry.
Aye Gerry.
22 Feb 2025 13:44:33
Said it earlier, Engels doesn't look comfortable on the left. Midfield doesn't look balanced when it's like that
Said it earlier, Engels doesn't look comfortable on the left. Midfield doesn't look balanced when it's like that
22 Feb 2025 13:44:53
Jfp🤟
Jfp🤟
22 Feb 2025 13:45:30
Need a quick goal to have ny chance but we look shaky at the back as well.
Need a quick goal to have ny chance but we look shaky at the back as well.
22 Feb 2025 13:45:46
Unlucky McGregor - Hibs shutting up ship…
Unlucky McGregor - Hibs shutting up ship…
22 Feb 2025 13:46:18
How is that a booking.
How is that a booking.
22 Feb 2025 13:46:31
Onceabhoy . That’s the big problem 2/3 goals might get us nothing
Onceabhoy . That’s the big problem 2/3 goals might get us nothing
22 Feb 2025 13:46:35
We're gonny burn maeda out
We're gonny burn maeda out
22 Feb 2025 13:47:05
At least we have strengthened and put best team out this half.
At least we have strengthened and put best team out this half.
22 Feb 2025 13:47:41
The more Maeda plays the better he gets
The more Maeda plays the better he gets
22 Feb 2025 13:49:40
That was out of play ffs
That was out of play ffs
22 Feb 2025 13:49:56
That was out
That was out
22 Feb 2025 13:50:15
I think BR would have planned to have best team on after 60 mins , but 2 nd goal meant he had to bring them on earlier . He wanted best players on when they tired a bit
I think BR would have planned to have best team on after 60 mins , but 2 nd goal meant he had to bring them on earlier . He wanted best players on when they tired a bit
22 Feb 2025 13:50:32
Full ball out there lol
Full ball out there lol
22 Feb 2025 13:50:45
That's miles out🤣
That's miles out🤣
22 Feb 2025 13:50:49
Ffs
Ffs
22 Feb 2025 13:50:55
We look more tired than hibs
We look more tired than hibs
22 Feb 2025 13:51:27
We play more games than hibs
We play more games than hibs
22 Feb 2025 13:51:29
Hibs had mid week off
Hibs had mid week off
22 Feb 2025 13:52:01
Shouldn’t we be paddy lol
Shouldn’t we be paddy lol
22 Feb 2025 13:52:23
Not 1 decision going our way and it’s not unintentional
Not 1 decision going our way and it’s not unintentional
22 Feb 2025 13:52:38
We've played a mental amount of games and some at a very high level. We were always going to have a bad yin at some point
We've played a mental amount of games and some at a very high level. We were always going to have a bad yin at some point
22 Feb 2025 13:53:34
Midweek Rangers2012 news gave ref and assistants some lift
Midweek Rangers2012 news gave ref and assistants some lift
22 Feb 2025 13:53:45
We are getting murdered by cross baws.
We are getting murdered by cross baws.
22 Feb 2025 13:53:45
If we don't score before the hour mark it will be tough to get anthing at all. Officials making the most of the situation as expected.
If we don't score before the hour mark it will be tough to get anthing at all. Officials making the most of the situation as expected.
22 Feb 2025 13:53:52
Ffs kuhn.
Ffs kuhn.
22 Feb 2025 13:53:52
Hibs going down like bowling pins
Hibs going down like bowling pins
22 Feb 2025 13:53:56
We are physically miles off it and that's the difference
We are physically miles off it and that's the difference
22 Feb 2025 13:54:15
Gerry agreed 100% but I still hold the club culpable for not replacing Kyogo and overloading Maeda…..the club knew for a year he was leaving…
Gerry agreed 100% but I still hold the club culpable for not replacing Kyogo and overloading Maeda…..the club knew for a year he was leaving…
22 Feb 2025 13:55:09
Wouldnt say there was much in that??
Wouldnt say there was much in that??
22 Feb 2025 13:55:22
That could be a red
That could be a red
22 Feb 2025 13:55:34
JFP, there is no excuse for not having Kyogo's replacement identified. As you said, it was not a surprise move.
JFP, there is no excuse for not having Kyogo's replacement identified. As you said, it was not a surprise move.
22 Feb 2025 13:55:41
Thats a slip. Never a red.
Thats a slip. Never a red.
22 Feb 2025 13:55:55
Jfp true but I'm hoping that was down to Rodgers not wanting what was on offer
Jfp true but I'm hoping that was down to Rodgers not wanting what was on offer
22 Feb 2025 13:55:55
Never. Get on with the game
Never. Get on with the game
22 Feb 2025 13:56:08
TT 👍
TT 👍
22 Feb 2025 13:56:31
Why do player accept not competing for drop baws??
Why do player accept not competing for drop baws??
22 Feb 2025 13:57:22
Think referees sometimes influence it Kev?
Think referees sometimes influence it Kev?
22 Feb 2025 13:57:59
Aye but you tell him naw. No where in rules does it say the ref can do that.
Aye but you tell him naw. No where in rules does it say the ref can do that.
22 Feb 2025 13:58:12
JFP 1888 . I am sorry there are a number of assumptions there . BR told us in Jan . We knew mths before. ( not a yr) BR says he has last word on transfers . That means Celtic Board couldn’t sign player without B R’s permission
JFP 1888 . I am sorry there are a number of assumptions there . BR told us in Jan . We knew mths before. ( not a yr) BR says he has last word on transfers . That means Celtic Board couldn’t sign player without B R’s permission
22 Feb 2025 13:58:19
Calmac poor so far today
Calmac poor so far today
22 Feb 2025 13:58:20
Cant see anyone scoring today
Cant see anyone scoring today
22 Feb 2025 13:58:47
Gerry….whats more worrying is most of the successes were on Rodgers list or former players…..Khun…..Idah…Shlup….Scmichael….…..Jota….Tierney….wtf has the good football doctor sourced?
Gerry….whats more worrying is most of the successes were on Rodgers list or former players…..Khun…..Idah…Shlup….Scmichael….…..Jota….Tierney….wtf has the good football doctor sourced?
22 Feb 2025 13:58:48
Everyone been poor
Everyone been poor
22 Feb 2025 13:59:12
Cal-Mac sums up the lethargy and lacklustre performance of the whole team
Cal-Mac sums up the lethargy and lacklustre performance of the whole team
22 Feb 2025 13:59:14
Jfp very true mate
Jfp very true mate
22 Feb 2025 14:00:38
Yes the players who either didn’t play on Tuesday or didn’t play first half haven’t showed themselves any better than those who have better reason to be tired
Yes the players who either didn’t play on Tuesday or didn’t play first half haven’t showed themselves any better than those who have better reason to be tired
22 Feb 2025 14:00:41
The summer is where the doc will be truly judged
The summer is where the doc will be truly judged
22 Feb 2025 14:00:56
Can’t even see a goal coming
Can’t even see a goal coming
22 Feb 2025 14:01:27
If it goes to 10 points tonight they will want another feckin star on their shirt
If it goes to 10 points tonight they will want another feckin star on their shirt
22 Feb 2025 14:01:50
League back on 🙄🤣
League back on 🙄🤣
22 Feb 2025 14:01:59
Boab. No one expects....THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
Boab. No one expects....THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
22 Feb 2025 14:02:54
The doc has already been judged….anybody who calls himself a football doctor and wears a daft hat wae a feather bringeth judgment uponeth himself says the Lord….
The doc has already been judged….anybody who calls himself a football doctor and wears a daft hat wae a feather bringeth judgment uponeth himself says the Lord….
22 Feb 2025 14:03:10
Trying to walk it in
Trying to walk it in
22 Feb 2025 14:03:47
Kev . Absolutely, that was stupid
Kev . Absolutely, that was stupid
22 Feb 2025 14:04:04
So many chances to shoot
So many chances to shoot
22 Feb 2025 14:04:12
Think I shouted dig it! 8 times there
Think I shouted dig it! 8 times there
22 Feb 2025 14:04:39
They mustn’t have heard u
They mustn’t have heard u
22 Feb 2025 14:04:52
Yes
Yes
22 Feb 2025 14:04:56
Yes
Yes
22 Feb 2025 14:05:02
Yasss
Yasss
22 Feb 2025 14:05:12
We’re back in it
We’re back in it
22 Feb 2025 14:05:14
(clap) (clap)
(clap) (clap)
22 Feb 2025 14:05:41
Yes Maeda , take him out of it & we have nothing
Yes Maeda , take him out of it & we have nothing
22 Feb 2025 14:05:44
Cmon Celtic in about these Fenian Ba$tsrds
Cmon Celtic in about these Fenian Ba$tsrds
22 Feb 2025 14:05:47
When I said can’t see us scoring I meant 3 😂
When I said can’t see us scoring I meant 3 😂
22 Feb 2025 14:06:02
Lovely football then a bit of luck.
Lovely football then a bit of luck.
22 Feb 2025 14:06:09
Yaassssss
Yaassssss
22 Feb 2025 14:06:22
Yesss
Yesss
22 Feb 2025 14:06:22
still time and now that we have a goal, let's go
still time and now that we have a goal, let's go
22 Feb 2025 14:06:23
Fuuck sake gerry 😂😂😂
Fuuck sake gerry 😂😂😂
22 Feb 2025 14:06:28
Some pass Hatate
Some pass Hatate
22 Feb 2025 14:07:08
Kev the dug running the internet wheel is tired the day
Kev the dug running the internet wheel is tired the day
22 Feb 2025 14:07:12
Yyyaaaasss I switched to Celtic TV for luck but am 3 minutes behind noo ha ha
Yyyaaaasss I switched to Celtic TV for luck but am 3 minutes behind noo ha ha
22 Feb 2025 14:07:55
Trusty needing to step aff, every time he tries that he leaves us wide open.
Trusty needing to step aff, every time he tries that he leaves us wide open.
22 Feb 2025 14:08:19
I have a new supplier which is top class but no sound only on Celtic Tv
I have a new supplier which is top class but no sound only on Celtic Tv
22 Feb 2025 14:08:40
This is worse game Kuhn has had in a long time
This is worse game Kuhn has had in a long time
22 Feb 2025 14:08:51
Da that's a bonus
Da that's a bonus
22 Feb 2025 14:09:18
That boy miller for them looks a decent player btw
That boy miller for them looks a decent player btw
22 Feb 2025 14:09:42
Kev khuns been non existent
Kev khuns been non existent
22 Feb 2025 14:09:48
Maybe time for Yang
Maybe time for Yang
22 Feb 2025 14:10:04
OAB?????????????
OAB?????????????
22 Feb 2025 14:10:24
There’s never a time for Yang
There’s never a time for Yang
22 Feb 2025 14:10:38
No sure OAB kuhn can pull a bit of magic out his arse at any moment
No sure OAB kuhn can pull a bit of magic out his arse at any moment
22 Feb 2025 14:10:40
Not for me , I turn off the h.n bastards on Sky BT, & Prem . No matter how bad C Tv are I can listen to their nonsense no problem
Not for me , I turn off the h.n bastards on Sky BT, & Prem . No matter how bad C Tv are I can listen to their nonsense no problem
22 Feb 2025 14:13:22
Pass the ****ing thing jota!!!!
Pass the ****ing thing jota!!!!
22 Feb 2025 14:13:34
That looked a penalty
That looked a penalty
22 Feb 2025 14:13:35
:-o
:-o
22 Feb 2025 14:13:43
Gotta score there
Gotta score there
22 Feb 2025 14:13:52
Too greedy, brilliant football,but selfish
Too greedy, brilliant football,but selfish
22 Feb 2025 14:14:01
Got to pass to kuhn there
Got to pass to kuhn there
22 Feb 2025 14:14:03
Fuck me Jota…
Fuck me Jota…
22 Feb 2025 14:14:11
Fsss Jota
Fsss Jota
22 Feb 2025 14:14:13
That’s a goal if he passes
That’s a goal if he passes
22 Feb 2025 14:14:28
Never a pen lol
Never a pen lol
22 Feb 2025 14:14:35
Make it count FFS
Make it count FFS
22 Feb 2025 14:14:41
Fuck me Jota. Greedy
Fuck me Jota. Greedy
22 Feb 2025 14:14:55
That’s criminal no passing
That’s criminal no passing
22 Feb 2025 14:15:23
He has to pass that for a goal. So greedy
He has to pass that for a goal. So greedy
22 Feb 2025 14:17:20
Cmon Celtic….
Cmon Celtic….
22 Feb 2025 14:18:39
What's this carry oan with the balls on the cones rather than with ball boys?
What's this carry oan with the balls on the cones rather than with ball boys?
22 Feb 2025 14:19:06
Should of be a wack added but it’ll be no more than 4
Should of be a wack added but it’ll be no more than 4
22 Feb 2025 14:19:52
Yesss
Yesss
22 Feb 2025 14:20:01
Yasss
Yasss
22 Feb 2025 14:20:06
Lovely biscuits
Lovely biscuits
22 Feb 2025 14:20:14
Yesssss
Yesssss
22 Feb 2025 14:20:14
Might be out
Might be out
22 Feb 2025 14:20:23
Looks out
Looks out
22 Feb 2025 14:20:35
Yesssssss
Yesssssss
22 Feb 2025 14:20:41
Out
Out
22 Feb 2025 14:20:49
Fs man
Fs man
22 Feb 2025 14:21:03
Pish wasn’t that earlier when full ball was out
Pish wasn’t that earlier when full ball was out
22 Feb 2025 14:21:10
It's out
It's out
22 Feb 2025 14:21:20
Cut aff
Cut aff
22 Feb 2025 14:21:34
Pish
Pish
22 Feb 2025 14:21:45
Pish biscuits
Pish biscuits
22 Feb 2025 14:21:49
1 rule for 1 and another for Celtic
1 rule for 1 and another for Celtic
22 Feb 2025 14:22:18
Let’s see it then
Let’s see it then
22 Feb 2025 14:22:46
D O B
D O B
22 Feb 2025 14:22:47
Am no so sure there
Am no so sure there
22 Feb 2025 14:22:59
Got to be about 10 minutes
Got to be about 10 minutes
22 Feb 2025 14:23:35
Hand there ?
Hand there ?
22 Feb 2025 14:23:44
Speed the play up ffs
Speed the play up ffs
22 Feb 2025 14:24:36
Thought it was clearly out?🤷
Thought it was clearly out?🤷
22 Feb 2025 14:25:02
Looked out to me tae.
Looked out to me tae.
22 Feb 2025 14:25:16
Jota got to hold thw line better.
Jota got to hold thw line better.
22 Feb 2025 14:25:45
I think the point is the decision was made it was a goal and did camera angle PROVE otherwise?
I think the point is the decision was made it was a goal and did camera angle PROVE otherwise?
22 Feb 2025 14:26:47
Kings 11 get that decision
Kings 11 get that decision
22 Feb 2025 14:27:08
Var can't definitive tell if the curvature if the ball touches the line so on field decision should stand
Var can't definitive tell if the curvature if the ball touches the line so on field decision should stand
22 Feb 2025 14:27:15
so Kasper passed back to him!gets ball out quickly for it to be
so Kasper passed back to him!gets ball out quickly for it to be
22 Feb 2025 14:28:10
Surely you wipe kuhn aff here and put kenny oan here
Surely you wipe kuhn aff here and put kenny oan here
22 Feb 2025 14:28:47
Hope he scores a howitzer now Kev 🤣
Hope he scores a howitzer now Kev 🤣
22 Feb 2025 14:29:18
Kev agreed. All guns for last 8 mins
Kev agreed. All guns for last 8 mins
22 Feb 2025 14:30:24
Get it in box ffs!!!!
Get it in box ffs!!!!
22 Feb 2025 14:30:33
Taking far too long to get the ball into the box still
Taking far too long to get the ball into the box still
22 Feb 2025 14:31:22
Playing like we've 45 mins ffs
Playing like we've 45 mins ffs
22 Feb 2025 14:31:27
The jota 1 was the chance that had to be took
The jota 1 was the chance that had to be took
22 Feb 2025 14:32:21
Aye poor poor decision from him
Aye poor poor decision from him
22 Feb 2025 14:32:26
Why did trusty put that out for corner
Why did trusty put that out for corner
22 Feb 2025 14:32:41
Ffs Trusty
Ffs Trusty
22 Feb 2025 14:32:52
Pure panic fae him
Pure panic fae him
22 Feb 2025 14:33:33
Not today I don’t think.
Not today I don’t think.
22 Feb 2025 14:33:33
And that wasn’t a foul
And that wasn’t a foul
22 Feb 2025 14:33:39
Damage all done in the first half when we were sleepin
Damage all done in the first half when we were sleepin
22 Feb 2025 14:33:54
Looks like we are beat so annoying weekend gubbed
Looks like we are beat so annoying weekend gubbed
22 Feb 2025 14:34:34
Aye lads, hoping WE were due a last minute goa but does not look likely
Aye lads, hoping WE were due a last minute goa but does not look likely
22 Feb 2025 14:34:55
Kevs stream prob done lol
Kevs stream prob done lol
22 Feb 2025 14:34:57
Get baw in Bix!!
Get baw in Bix!!
22 Feb 2025 14:35:18
all over
all over
22 Feb 2025 14:35:22
Cheers lads. Have a good weekend. ☘️
Cheers lads. Have a good weekend. ☘️
22 Feb 2025 14:35:25
Troops
Troops
22 Feb 2025 14:35:31
Pish poor after the Bayern performance but we need to bounce back on Tuesday v Aberdeen
Pish poor after the Bayern performance but we need to bounce back on Tuesday v Aberdeen
22 Feb 2025 14:35:32
Adios all,till next week.Keep the Faith
Adios all,till next week.Keep the Faith
22 Feb 2025 14:36:26
Ach well, stilltop of league with points to spare but need to do better
Ach well, stilltop of league with points to spare but need to do better
22 Feb 2025 14:36:27
His subs or lack of them is bizarre sometimes. Need a goal and a sitting oan the bench
His subs or lack of them is bizarre sometimes. Need a goal and a sitting oan the bench
22 Feb 2025 14:36:37
Take care everyone
Take care everyone
22 Feb 2025 14:36:58
Shit happens. HH
Shit happens. HH
22 Feb 2025 14:37:33
thanks again Ed
thanks again Ed
22 Feb 2025 14:38:06
Have to come out and challenge the decision
Have to come out and challenge the decision
22 Feb 2025 14:38:24
We were **** first half
We were **** first half
22 Feb 2025 14:41:14
Poor performance all round but A Idah is extremely poor. Another striker must be a priority
Poor performance all round but A Idah is extremely poor. Another striker must be a priority
22 Feb 2025 14:43:09
It’s not unusual to go from highs especially away in Europe to lows next game . Away to Hibs no gimme , But we need the new club to drop points before we do again
It’s not unusual to go from highs especially away in Europe to lows next game . Away to Hibs no gimme , But we need the new club to drop points before we do again