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31 Dec 2017 14:08:01
Wanted to get back to transfer activity as the mad month approaches. Is there any transfers we know are likely coming our way. I have said I'd of liked a decent centre back, even better right back and a left winger to challenge or even out do Sinclair on the opposite wing. Saying that we've got one centre back coming in (unsure of the quality and Europa league cup tied) and news on a right back? How about musonda?

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1.) 31 Dec 2017 15:21:36
Don’t want Musonda if it’s a loan

Sign permanently or stay a prospect in the EPL reserves.


2.) 31 Dec 2017 19:37:14
Hate loans unless u can buy.


3.) 31 Dec 2017 21:19:59
I'd take a player on loan for 18 months if it's to benefit our chances in Europe. It's not always about making money on player but progressing as a team at a competitive level.


4.) 01 Jan 2018 01:47:54
A right back? Bring back adam matthews. Recently watching the team at throw ins has been brutal.


5.) 01 Jan 2018 10:22:36
PMCF I liked Matthews but I'm sure he scrutinized the club when he left. I think we could do better.


6.) 03 Jan 2018 03:24:57
We need to be more dangerous from set plays, but I don't think Adam mathews is the answer.


7.) 03 Jan 2018 23:16:12
If we hadn't played 10 games more than any other team in SPL . We would have 30 full days to train and practice set pieces . I am sure that would make us more dangerous from them.


 

 

 

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08 Nov 2018 22:31:09
Fantastic result tonight. Outstanding performance as a team. Couple individuals I thought were solid. I expected a win tonight as were hitting form, celtic Park buzzing and the result was a must.

Just glad the bhoys delivered, my only negative is I felt Lustig is still going to be the weak link in the chain. Jumping for headers missing the ball, not clearing the ball far away enough and lacking that pace when any winger comes near him. But collectively as a team we dealt with those problems. I'd hope we beat Rosenborg next and the final result will likely come down to the final game at celtic Park. On our day we can compete with teams at this level. Anyway celebrations the night. Wonder if the media will hype our results the way they've had the zombies for the last few weeks. Hail hail.

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1.) 08 Nov 2018 22:52:30
He’s still the best right back we have.


2.) 08 Nov 2018 23:51:53
Totally agree 4leaf, love lustig but father time is catching him, gets caught out of position too much these days.


 

 

15 Aug 2018 10:37:20
That was a sore one last night. Maybe a wake up call. We all acknowledge the champions league setup is a shambles it's all about the top 4 leagues making more money. But avoiding excuses we should of beat that mob last night. That was a disgraceful attempt. I think tactically we were slow at adjusting. Sinclair on 10 minutes earlier with moussa and it might have been a different story. My concern was how come the team could defend in the last 20 minutes but struggled for the first 70. Does it only matter when we have 20 mins left. I think a different approach might of been a better answer.

Now down to players. Centre backs Simonovic isn't good enough, hendry, I'd give a season in and out of the team gage his development. I agree he lacks ATM but he has the tool to be good just lacks experience. Right back I don't know if lustig could move into centre back but as a right back he's done. He offers nothing. Absolutely nothing if anything he's just a body on a pitch. That is it. Tierney is outstanding but I'm now concerned his pressing is causing more issues than good. Our best defender is up the park leaving the other 3 clowns at the back.

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1.) 15 Aug 2018 11:18:47
4leaf as I said before I love Lustig he’s got the Celtic big and he’s been a good servant but last night your bang on, he was just a body in the park. I thought put Gambia on and push Lustig to ch, but does he have it to be winnin the first ball against big battering Rams, getting to balls in behind, I’m not sure. SPL level no issue Europe not good enough.

Good point about Tierney but if you look at where the goals came from both Lustigs side and at home Lustigs side. Tierney very rarely gets caught up the park and his work rate attacking and defending is unbelievable. However now you’ve said it I will be keeping a close eye on it and report back to Brendan 😂.


2.) 15 Aug 2018 11:26:07
I don’t know what age you are 4leaf, but we have had wake up calls all of my life as a supporter. The problem is we never take the call. It’s on silent. We just say keep the faith, it will be ok. We never do anything to really make it ok, we just pray that it will be.

This year has been the worst ever. In the past we could use the no money moan. Not now. A total dereliction if duty and the man responsible for forgetting players cost needs to step down. And he can take his disco lights with him.


3.) 15 Aug 2018 13:33:39
I agree magicpole, our team has got worse and worse over the last two decades. Rodgers came in and it looked as though we may be taking a different approach and for the first two seasons it's seemed well. Yes the champions league qualifiers have always been tough but I felt Rodgers was supported enough to get us through them. However, this summer it has been more along the lines of get on with the job and once your through we may talk transfers. This is regressive attitude. You strengthen when your in power to strengthen. Had we another centre back another right back and explosive midfielder (even if it was a bench player to change a game) we would have made it through. The gamble, I recon would of cost the club £17 million for the quality required of 3 decent players plus the £9 million for Edouard. That is a large net spend of £26 million on transfers. The champions league group stage automatically nets you around £40million. The last two season the £30 million prize. The renewal of sponsorship, the sale of top players. The season ticket sales and merchandise. Celtic parks hosting events. The money is there.

That gamble on those player a could of been what pushed us that extra distance. And Scottish football would benefit as it would be the next jump for them financially as well. But for some reason the money men don't find it worth the gamble and we've got a team which I honestly don't think is any better than Strachan and Lennon's early team at the moment.


 

 

17 May 2018 17:22:08
Just for the sake of conversation let's say dembele does go in the summer and we accept an offer of around £20million. We know how the board works and out of that we'd be lucky to see £10 million out back in the pot and if the board are likely to be generous we may get a £15 million budget including all transfer fees.

Who do wee realistically see as a capable £6million replacement for dembele. For CL competitions?

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1.) 17 May 2018 17:39:35
Edouard.


2.) 17 May 2018 17:44:24
I can honestly see us making a splash this summer just to keep the orcs in there place. I also think we will smash out transfer record for the right player, maybe even twice.


3.) 17 May 2018 19:47:37
I'd hope for a lot more than £20mil for dembele that's for sure, it's time we stooped up our transfer fees and get what we deserve imo!


 

 

03 Feb 2018 22:01:56
Stoooop! With all the negativity. You'd think we've forgotten we have a significant lead at the top. We haven't been as clinical this season but nonetheless were still by enlarge the best team in the country.

I think that as mentioned earlier the pitch didn't do our guys any favours and the injuries done us no good. But on a whole a below par performance, the lads need a balling for that.

As for the complaints on recruitment. Yes I'm gutted that we've still got one or two areas needing strength but on a whole, playing a squad with an average age of 24. Even better 21 minus two of the old heads. To me that is evident to what BR is planning. If we get 3-4 season's CL football for 16 guys by the time there 25 heading to their peak they'll have plenty experience at that level. (Even if 4 left you'd still have 12 guys with that experience) this can only be a good thing.

With regards to plan b. We've been messing around with the formation for the last couple of games this is is trying to work out different formations. It worked against hearts let us down today, with such a massive lead in the league it's worth a gamble every now and then.

Disappointed but realistic we learn from this and move on. Expect better next week.

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1.) 03 Feb 2018 22:36:22
But is the point not, if you find a formation that works, shouldn't you just keep it, until it comes undone, and you get forced to try another one, and then you try some others till you find another one that works, don't see the point of finding one that works, and then the next game saying, "think we had better try something else for this game, just to see if it works as well",


2.) 03 Feb 2018 22:52:54
8 points isn’t really a significant lead in my view.


3.) 03 Feb 2018 23:08:56
It was 12 points this morning. Was there not a comment earlier about sitting static and other teams catch up we constantly need to try and improve.

The other option is with the likes of zenit around the corner knowing your options is better than going into to the game with 1 plan and untried alternatives. I'm not blind to say BR got it wrong today but i think it's to harsh to question the teams ability with 2 domestic defeats in two seasons.


4.) 03 Feb 2018 23:47:42
4 leaf that's far too sensible a post in the aftermath of our 2nd domestic defeat in 70 odd games, you should be posting stuff like we"ll be lucky to win the league and we"ve no chance of back to back trebles. Some on here need a reality check, they over react when we win and do the same when we lose, in their eyes we are either world beaters or we're pish . The reality is we are a very decent young side that is only going to improve and are streets ahead of anything else in Scotland. In Europe
we come up short for the same reason the rest domestically come up short against us. Money.


5.) 03 Feb 2018 23:51:46
I agree, but unfortunately there is some of our supporters that aren’t happy unless their moaning., having said that believing that we will win everything in a canter is wrong too, if Aberdeen had had taken something from us or sevco, they would be breathing down our necks, and we seem to have lost our spark this year.


6.) 04 Feb 2018 00:36:08
And if we beat all our draws and losses then everyone would be happy and if our women didn't need to sit down when they went to the toilet theyed be our boyfriends it's a league get over it 38 games most points wins not who got points here there and were!


7.) 04 Feb 2018 09:03:04
So your happy that we will win the treble this year at a canter then, no problem my concerns are over bigsammy has said everything is great.


8.) 04 Feb 2018 09:19:15
It’s not about losing a game. It’s about the complete lack of any threat. The complete lack of any co ordinated approach to trying to deal with Killie playing deep.

The performance against hertz was one if the best and yesterday one of the worst in the last year

The injuries knocked us but, we should still have had enough.

One shot on target shows you how poor we were. Nobody could beat a man. AlwYs taking the easier backward or sideways pass. Not until Eddy came on did we pick up a bit

I thought overall Hendry looked ok and time will tell if he can help makes us less porous.

Piss poor performance and gives us all something to think about. I’m hoping it was another one of those days. Too many of our more creative players created absolutely feck all.

A real worry now is facing Zenit with an even worse defence than we went into the window with if Ajer doesn’t make it.

Musonda was surrounded by three players at all times. Releasing the ball in those situations is the best move as they have too many players committed and we failed to exploit that.

A disappointing window was lessened by a great pwrformance on Tuesday. I think that formation is our best hope and Charly and Forrest should be the only swap if one is to happen.

Need to get our confidence back because if they play like that against them we haven’t a hope.

Any news on how bad the injuries were? Especially to Aje.


9.) 04 Feb 2018 09:53:13
I'd agree that well win the league easy. Cups are difficult a bad day at the office for one team and another team at there best means a cups anyone's game. But were mentally a much stronger team since the Ronny days. Again when we get the opportunity and it's a game we can risk it's sometimes best for BR to try something with the team he believes will work and might be the next step to us progressing yesterday obviously didn't work well get back to normal and not take risks again till were in the safe zone again.


 

 

17 Dec 2017 12:07:52
Seen a lot of MSSM commenting on the Mousse being sold in January. I completely understand the big guy wanting to move onto bigger challenges, making a bigger salary and getting his name across world football. He's used us for the platform he needs and so far has done us well. But to be linked to average teams like Brighton for £18 million. Is shooting himself down and I'd tell Brighton to gtf anything less than £25 million with 20% sell on; if they don't want sell on I'd say £30 million and we've got a deal. Money could be reinvested for 2/ 3 key players to the squad.

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{Ed007's Note - Even if there was any truth in the story I can't see Dembele being interested in joining Brighton.}


1.) 17 Dec 2017 12:20:05
I'd hope not. In terms of club stance moving to the likes of Brighton is a step down. Yeah he'd be in the PL (as over rated as it is) playing for a team that's aim is to avoid relegation isn't going to provide him with the goalscoring opportunities that will get him known. Plus if they're relegated he's back to where he started in the championship. He should wait for a top 8 standard English team. Or even a decent Spanish, french, Italian or German team. I'm sick of substandard English teams being able to attract players solely based on money when they have no ambition.


2.) 17 Dec 2017 13:33:26
I think Dembele has already proven he isn't a money chaser and want's to bide his time for something better than Brighton and with the money splashed around down south why would we accept a piss poor offer like that if it has any substance to it.


3.) 17 Dec 2017 14:38:44
if he is to move in Jan; I would hope it was to the continent and not to a struggling EPL team. Unfortunately, I think maybe the valuation and reputation built last season, may have decreased due to his injuries and lack of impact this term.


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2018 11:51:55
I think the issue seems to lie above Rodgers tbh. Careful who you call the leaders? Does that not sound like he's saying Brendan's meant to be the boss but he ain't pulling the strings?

Now reading between the lines could an element of him playing have been dictated to by the board. Same with boyara he's fit Rodgers let's us know. Then Boyata says he not fit, ensuring he's not cup tied adding to his value. No doubt both players want away but board room level will want top money and dictate the management of this situation.

To be fair I'd make sure we never accept anything less than £20million for dembele. I'm sure Memphis depay went from? psv for £25 million to Man U and never hit heights. Mbappe >£100 million. Demebelle was in a provisional squad to the world champions during the summer. We're not asking for the same value as Mbappe just to pay a reasonable amount for a player of demebelles quality.

If that does come in with a sign on fee is hope at least £10million was splashed today on another striker.

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16 Aug 2018 09:34:12
Jonbhoy to say 17 players for £25 million is showing you the type of players were having to look for that's under £2 million per player on average. Take away edouards 9 million and it's less than £1 million per player.

I take it your getting the quote from commons in the paper I believe it's actually closer to £22 million in total. We ain't paying for quality just quantity most of the time.

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05 Jul 2018 20:51:11
Sorry for the late reply. If KT doesn't want to go that's fine he doesn't go. I'd rather have KT who wants to play for Celtic than 4 £10 million players who use us as a stepping stone. When you play your heart out for the club the fans know your giving it your all. That's all we can ask.

But in theory if he went for £40 million I'd wish the board invest but probably unlikely to happen.

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05 Jul 2018 12:31:36
I'd accept £40 million it's a crazy number even for KT, but football is a crazy money down south. If someone came in with that kind of offer it's to good to knock back. If that was invested and the club offered a further £10-15 million transfer fees your looking at taking the club to the next level. But a it's and buts. £25million I'd knock back atm.

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18 Feb 2018 18:48:51
Ridiculous statement, everyone's happy with Thursday then after a recovery half fielded (not even reserve now everyone's injured) team and a 0-0 and you can't see how we'll win the league. How about we see how we get on in Thursday let that result deal with itself recover then, field a strong team and smash the rest of them?

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18 Aug 2018 20:42:00
Aye I will welcome him back if he "crosses the field, present himself before the fans, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own a**e. " Then I may welcome him back and whilst he's at it a public announcement of the sacking of his agent. Otherwise he can rot in the under 19s or be punted to the next club that offer >8million for him.

No one's bigger than the club. He lacks the quality to even make a step up from a team like Celtic. person that he is.

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15 Aug 2018 13:33:39
I agree magicpole, our team has got worse and worse over the last two decades. Rodgers came in and it looked as though we may be taking a different approach and for the first two seasons it's seemed well. Yes the champions league qualifiers have always been tough but I felt Rodgers was supported enough to get us through them. However, this summer it has been more along the lines of get on with the job and once your through we may talk transfers. This is regressive attitude. You strengthen when your in power to strengthen. Had we another centre back another right back and explosive midfielder (even if it was a bench player to change a game) we would have made it through. The gamble, I recon would of cost the club £17 million for the quality required of 3 decent players plus the £9 million for Edouard. That is a large net spend of £26 million on transfers. The champions league group stage automatically nets you around £40million. The last two season the £30 million prize. The renewal of sponsorship, the sale of top players. The season ticket sales and merchandise. Celtic parks hosting events. The money is there.

That gamble on those player a could of been what pushed us that extra distance. And Scottish football would benefit as it would be the next jump for them financially as well. But for some reason the money men don't find it worth the gamble and we've got a team which I honestly don't think is any better than Strachan and Lennon's early team at the moment.

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14 Aug 2018 13:56:59
Not worried timalloy. I'm going in with full faith. I think the media bulls**t may be causing an over reaction. There is definitely something going down with the boards support of transfers but I think the player and managers are on the same page.

I'm going to throw it out there and say 3-0. We dominated that team last week they just parked the bus. But I recon we'll go out all guns blazing. Players available. Another game under the belt. The team we have are filled with champions players who know how to win, who are hungry to win and want to display there talents on the champions league. I don't see why we can't if we give it our all.
Hail hail.

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09 Aug 2018 09:18:24
After getting to sleep on it. The performance for the team was pretty decent. Held the ball well moved about the park well, lacked the end product. But again moussa is our strongest forward and he's out again (something that needs to be looked at) . Midfield was pretty solid but again lacked a defence splitting pass. I said last night Roberts and Armstrong would of been the player who could of changed that last night, we've lost them we now need quality replacements and Yes. I'd of brought Roberts on for either Forrest or rogic.

Is it just me or is sincy predictable, if I was a right back I'd of loved playing against a guy that runs down the wing and then always cuts back on his right foot, he's lost that ability to drive take players on and have that final product. I recon it's a confidence issue but if no improvement in 6 month's he's served his time. Move on.

Defence I seen a lot of noise that only 1 (Tierney) is good enough. Personally Ayer is the only CB I've seen in a decade in the same mold as VVD for us. Boy is young, strong (will get stronger) , fast and can pass, take players on and can head a ball. He's going to be a star in a year or two. Hendry is young he's decent got to get that bit of experience before we'll see the best of him but the two of them were solid the last two European games. Which brings me on to the biggest problem area, poor lustig. Loyal servant but I've seen a sloth move faster than him. His days as a right back are done, he'd be better either in the middle or brought on later in a game when other people's legs have gone. His pace is causing both him and us problems in the game now time to bring someone else in regardless how much cover we have there.

If we make it through I think we need another Right back in for the season, another centre half (yes wip out 8-10million) for someone half decent. And another centre mid of quality would be good someone who offers something different. I'd like to say another left mid as I think both Forrest and Morgan are suffice out right but left needs strength.

What your thoughts?

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09 Mar 2018 19:43:12
Absolutely buckled pmsl at Stevie's comments 🤣🤣.

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