30 Aug 2014 20:10:12
Commons is very unhappy at what is happening at Celtic at the moment and has made the club aware that he would like to leave.
The dressing room is already proving to be a uncomfortable place as many of the more senior guys are unhappy with the drastic changes in training and in the setup. The younger guys have embraced the change along with the foreigners, but the senior Scottish players have apparently been a bit stubborn.
As I've posted before Virgil, much like Forster was told that he could leave if we didn't make the CL and so he will be moving on before the window closes if we receive a offer of 8mil.
The club have also told Zaluksa, Balde, Griffiths, Boeriggter, Rogic, Atajic and McGeouch that if offers come then the player can leave.
Griffiths will not be joining Hibs though as they can't finance the deal. A few of the young guys will also be sent on loan, with Notts County looking at Twardzik and possibly McGeouch if he's not sold.
Scepovic should be announced tomorrow or Monday, and there are bids in for 5 other players, with the hope of signing 2 or 3 by Monday.
One of whom is Gustav Wikheim from Stromsgodset, so it looks like Deila has decided to get in another guy he knows is comfortable with his way. The others are unknown so far.
30 Aug 2014 21:04:26
Tbh there is none of they players i'll be that bothered about moving on even commons. Aye was a brilliant player last season and basically carried us with his goals but at 30 we won't get another chance to get a fee for him plus he just isn't good enough for europe same as most of our players
Obviously commons wouldn't be chuffed about being benched but this was a tactical decision. Sure scott brown said not too long ago the training was great, but I agree withlast message, I would sell kc he is too slow, and our last chance to obtain a fee for a 30+ player
I think you are selling Commons a bit short there GunnieBhoy, Commons deserves a medal for what he has done for us last season (no pun intended). We don't need a fee for him, we are rolling in it! We need him to do what he done last year. He was good enough for Europe before so he must still be. If it wasn't for Commons, last year would have been a different story. Commons is not the problem we have, he has solved us more problems than he has ever caused. 30 is not old, he has lots left.
The way I'm told it is that Commons isn't overly taken with the new management team, and he wasn't happy with the contract offer at the start of the summer either. With no sign of a better offer coming and the current system change not suiting him, he has decided that if a offer comes from the epl then he'll go back down south and take what will be his last big contract.
It was also noted that Deila and Collins have spoken positively about Watt, Griffiths and a few others but then those same guys have been told they aren't in the managers plans or in Commons case been dropped to the bench. This has upset a few players as they feel the club is making it seem like certain players are causing problems.
Imo if it was me I would be unamused and would find it hard to support the changes, especially when you are looking at loan guys coming in to take your place. None of whom are coming off the back of any success at all.
This could be a long season.
Ed do you know of bids for 5 players and an intention on our part to sign 2 or 3 more by the deadline? I was just expecting Scepovic and possibly a Van Dijk replacement if he is sold
{Ed007's Note - No.}
30 Aug 2014 22:06:06
I agree for the most part about loans not being the way forward, however at 31, neither is Commons. Don't get me wrong, he's been a great signing for us but if an offer comes in, we should take it.
Get rid of the deadwood as well, free up the wage bill to make a couple more signings. Hopefully although unlikely keep Van Dijk.
I know Ronny hasn't made the best start but he needs to be given a proper shot at this. If the players are moaning about changes to the training methods then get them to ****. The wages they're on and the performances they've given so far in return has not been acceptable. We should get behind the manager, not the players and inflate their egos even more.
Doboworth
Totally agree with you the players get a good pay for doing not a lot recently go with the changes give the manager a chance and you never know things might just work out it's amasing how it's the Brit players moaning and the others just getting on with it maybe they need to take a good look at themselves and embrace the changes.
I'm not suggesting I support certain players reactions to the new setup, however everyone knows that a few bad results doesn't end up with players being sacked.
There has been a good social scene amongst players over the last few years, but with guys who were considered leaders like Hooper and Forster going that has left a big void on and off the pitch. Guys like Commons and Brown are key figures in the same way, we currently can't afford to lose them during a really important period for theclub imo.
Browns contract talks are due to start over the international break so we will see what the clubs intentions are with him shortly.
Don't remember anyone saying get rid of lubo and he was 33 and just as slow as commons. becareful what you wish for.lots o moans about club sellin best players and not replacing.Pot and kettle, commons is our best player or 1 of. what's the chances o getting better without 5m spent?
Rayman
commons and lobo were different breeds….and should not be compared…
totally different players with different skills sets
Fran respect your post but really don't understand the part u said commons was good enough for europe before? any game iv seen him in europe even last season when he was bang on form he was rotten. He isn't fit enough for the cl tbh he looks knackered after an attack and at that level we need players who will get up and down the park especially away games. Just my opinion if we are going 2 sell him then better doing it now while he is till youngish 30 isn't old so would get a decent price
@paradise, that's where your completely wrong, different player different times obv, but the main thing here is they were 1 o our better players. period, don't go slagging the board off about sellin our best players when you doing the same thing.
31 Aug 2014 09:37:14
Peter Lawell tells us Celtic are one of the best run clubs in the world? Peter Lawell also states that the loss of Rangers has cost Celtic £10million a season. I don't agree with either statements. Firstly when teams such as Liega Warsaw and Maribor beat us in a competition that generates us £15 mill and we have a football budget of £32 mill wich dwarfs the money available to Warsaw and Maribor then how do you justify the first statement? We are as far away financially from Maribor as Real Madrid are to us. So Mr Lawell, your definition of best run club can onlybe about our balance sheet and not our standard of play. (The product on the pitch).You have money in the bank because we can't help ourselves. We have an addiction and that addiction is Celtic FC. You are not providing a quality product at this moment, and some of the Celtic addicts or supporters as you know them, are now in remission and that will continue ( with or without Rangers), and due to the product, fewer season tickets are being sold. Understand Mr Lawell it's about he product. We now have a poor product on the pitch overseen by an inexperienced manager. Winning the league this season is not a given!
Point 2, losing £10mill a season due to Rangers demise is stretching the truth. We can all do the maths and at best even allowing for a drop in season ticket sales at full price is about £13mill at worst over 2 seasons not £10 mill a season. £13 mill down is still a lot of money, however why drop the price by £100? That is around £5.00 off per match. I will gladly pay the extra £5.00 if the product is right but it's not. We sell less season tickets and less supporters come to matches because the product us poor. If you were in any other business and ran your company on the basis that you run Celtic you would be facing losses. So please if you must spin a story, do your sums first. Finally, I believe Serb striker Stefan Scepovic is not coming to Ctic due to the salary offered to him? So we again are going to have a poor product for 2014/15 season? You have a playing budget of £32million and the product is poor. So if you want to tell us we are the best run club in the world, make better use of the £32million. That is you job Mr Lawell, when are you going to start to do it?
Commons was good last year but the year before was honking if he ain't willing to adapt so be it
Griffiths should never have been at celtic in the 1st place
Can't believe ambrose is not on the list
Is keeping the better players not the same as investing in the team? So what if we don't get a fee for Commons in a couple of years? If we get 2 decent years from him is it not a good idea to keep him?
Commons is undoubtedly unhappy because the new management want the team to actually do training. its disgusting that these players are being asked to do any physical exertion for their 1000's of pounds a week wages. its not as if they are professional athletes!?!
You know what Commons is not the manager of Celtic, so if he ain't happy about having to actually train then he can go.
SPL level player at best, a ghost in Europe and so far this season very very poor.