Celtic Banter Archive January 06 2015

06 Jan 2015 23:09:29
Just seems no matter how successful Deila is with celtic, there will always be a witch hunt out to get him.

New complaint arises every week over utter nonsense. Because We bet Kilmarnock 2-0 and silenced a few folk, clutching at straws Deila now has folk slating tactics- saying we should be scoring more and the joke of a gripe about celebrating!

Question is there anything that Deila can do that won't have people on his case? Cause way things are beating Inter, getting to next round and say winning treble is not enough for this faction!

It is clearly and evidently "celtic minded" pi$h at its best! Best of it is, THE ONLY ARGUEMENT you hear about from this mob regards last season is this clean sheet record (ACHIEVED IN LEAGUE COMPETITION ONLY).how can anyone possibly in a sane state of mind even argue that at this stage last season, was a better than position we are in now?

Times change and this faction have got to remember they are not the superrace and ANYONE IS WELCOME AT CELTIC!

The only person on here talking about a witchunt is you, are we not entitled to criticise poor performance.You have still to tell me what's the difference between criticisin Lennon as you did last season and me doing the same to RD.The only difference is you wanted Lennon out, I don't want Rd out.

DN30

There was no joke, no flippant remark, no hint of criticism either it was a serious question!

A cannot think of ANYONE that falls for the need to be "Celtic Minded pi$h"

Celtic are a club that welcomes everyone regardless of colour, creed etc

A asked a SERIOUS question surely if NL (who a know is not your favourite) was celebrating afterwards the way RD is surely it is " a double edge sword" there is no way on earth NL would get away with that not a fkin chance! the vultures would be out for him because of EXACTLY his background!

As a previously said to you I could not care if Wurzel Gummidge was in charge (as long as Aunt Sally was not his asst lol)

A supported Dr Jo, Lou Macari, John Barnes it is not hard to SUPPORT RD but there is such a thing as "constructive criticism" circa 30 games into his plan the football is not great to watch and I am not the only one saying so

It is a banter/forum for a purpose to vent opinions / praise / viewpoints & stances

For the purposes of doubt and clarity we batter these Keyboards about the Scottish Media / press / tv /ex players does in the clearest defence of RD does anyone think they are going to allow him to continue this without "the beaks " or someone doing / saying something ffs spare me! but how can they? what can they write / say?

He is NOT Celtic Minded if he were Celtic Minded they would be saying by now "he should know better" or "that could cause trouble" they will not let him away with it forever! just remember it was pointed out early please!

ATVB JB7

Folks are genuinely getting hysterical on this forum these days! Take the missus out, catch a flick. Jesus.

Rayman there was every right to critise Lennon last season. Out of all cup competitions by january, winning scrappy results. This season we are in a better position at this point, but people still nit pick.

Just to be clear here, if it was the same scenario as last night I would be calling for Deilas head but its not the case.

All you have to do is look on this from posts after game and if that's not a witch hunt then what is it?

Jamie post was directed in general at a few who just snipe at least wee thing or try to find an angle regards Deila.

With Lennon, last season was a catrosphic f@ck up. From signings to cup displays, yet because of this clean sheet record season was deemed a success by this faction. There is a lot more excitement this season, yet cause this faction doesn't rate Deila they want him out door

So many posative comments about the game the other night and certain people still try and trawl for something they can call an RD bashing. The comments are 90% possative of the performance ffs, you guys are like a broken record, lighten up! Markie

Markie its the 10% though who won't give the guy a break. Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes the football has been boring and scrappy at times but he is doing his job well by being in all competitions and realistically will win league. This 10% attitude last season says it all

07 Jan 2015 13:52:19
You've been found out along time ago DN, in your haste to have anybody but Lennon as manager, (I'd say you would have had scooby doo), you found yourself backing someone that hasn't lived up to what is required so far. In your own usual way you attack anyone who has an opinion opposite to yours with this celtic minded stuff and the you all hate deila stuff. I don't know anybody who hates RD, I know plenty who have doubts about his abilities thou.Grow a pair and present an argument instead of the usual drivel we've been hearing.
Credit where it's due a good performance on Monday night, long may it last.

TTTS I was wondering when you were going to pop your head out your shell.

I tell things as it is, I don't pussy foot around things. i'm straight to the point and will critise anyone who is not performing to the standard required to be an adequate manager or player at celtic.

Never wanted Mowbray as he was never going to be a success having took WBA down to championship and have mentioned this several times, but you overlook this cause conviently it suits you.

Lennons record speaks for itself! In a climate with no old firm where we should of been dominating, we underachieved under Lennon big time- no excuses! And let's not forget this was also the man who was begging for a mentor - Stuart Baxter. Last season says it all.

Your just bitter board got wise to his failings and got shot of Lennon. Nobody is allowed to slate his failings (crucially last season) in regards success in trophies and transfer dealings that left us embarrisingly without a striker that could score in Europe.

Its clearly evident this is the case with your anti-lawwell avatar. You only posted that cause Lawwell said "tally-ho" to Lennon

Dn30 for a man who tells it like it is didn't you know Lennon left celtic not how you see it. Also you slam Lennon for not having a striker to score in Europe but surely you can see in his final year someone else was picking and signing players just as the same is happening to ronny.

@DN Under Lennon let's look at the facts NOT your opinion.
Europe- Got to CL x2 with Last 16. Also won away games in Europe.
Overacheived.
League- 3 times 1st time in 4 yrs, comin back from 15 point deficit. Totally dominating other 2 with shut out record, 99 points, league usually over by December.
Overachieved.
Cups - not good enough.
Under Achieved.
Finance- Vast profits on transfers, with a few bad choices albeit but you have to spec to accum.
Made fortunes from CL
Over achieved.
This doesn't look like under achievement to me.

Rayman did you support the Hoops before Lennon was manager? It's all you seem to want to talk about and that's been months now. Its time to move on mate or take it to a Bolton site.

I am sure the Ed can confirm I was one of Lennon's most loyal supporters last season . That was last season, he was our Manager then, he was Celtic's manager then . Now he is an ex - Celtic Manager and now we neither have to support him or ridicule because he is no longer with us . Now we must get behind and support and encourage our Celtic Manager. We need our Celtic manager Deila to improve and do better
We won't do that by taking our lead from the Scottish media, including ex Celtic players who in order to fodder their own nest criticise and condemn Ronnie, no matter what he does .
Ronnie is trying to influence and change Celtic play and players in a way that has never been tried before. Wouldn't it be terrible, if bloody shameless anonymous posters who claim to be Celtic fans aborted his stay and we never found out, if he could bring greatness again, to our great club . Surely if we have the slightest love for Celtic, we would do all in our power to help Deila and his players .

@AH what a pointless post, don't you think a Celtic legend deserves more respect than what he gets on here. He did this this job despite him and his family getting death threats etc when many would have run. Considerin what he had to put up with don't you think he done a good job or you going to go off on some tangent about Bolton again.

@Rayman A pointless post (rofl) are you having a laugh? Every post you make is pointless bullsh*t trying to score cheap points like some daft wee boy. We all know what Lennon went through but that has got zero to do with his ability as a manager. You didn't answer the question, were you a Celtic supporter before Lennon was manager? I'd have you down as a Neil Lennon fan rather than a Celtic fan, it's all you ever post about, what age are you 14? If not stop acting like it and let Celtic fans talk about their team rather than your perverted infatuatin about Lennon. Is it the ginger hair that gets you going? Sharpen yourself up son you're just giving yourself a redneck on here and it's not pretty to watch. it's folk like you that put people off going to games, I'd rather sh*te in my hands and clap than sit next to someone like you at a game. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's folk like you that are all that is wrong with Celtic fans and you're not alone on here. What had Lennon done in the first 18 months as manager and you're on here slagging a guy that's been here 6 months.

{Ed007's Note - At least you can scroll past his posts - I need to read them! ;(

Jim1972 no your right, my mistake. It wasnt Lennon who signed Balde, Pukki, Bangura to name a few.

Your also right, it was Lennon who left off his own back and there wasnt a couple of directors along with Lawwell who wanted him gone after last seasons shambles.

Rayman yes let's look at the facts. How was the most important part of your kindly produced stats apart from league, his cups stats? Not good enough- End of discussion

07 Jan 2015 19:21:22
Now tells us how RD is good enough DN.

@ AH point scoring? You reply to everyhin I post practically seems the only 1 here tryin to point score is you. As usual you prefer to insult rather than post anything.

@Rayman It just seems like I'm answering every post you make because you try to hijack every thread to get people talking about Lennon, it's you that's the troll son and not a very good one at that. Still no answer on when you started supporting Celtic? It's usually the first shout of blawhards like you "I've been following Celtic for 125 years now" as if you're some kind of Superfan. Half the time your posts are just the same rant over and over again, we don't want to be talking about Lennon day in and day out. you're the second most boring person on here but it's a close yin. Even the ED007 seems to think you're a bit on the boring side by the sounds of it.

TTTS very silly question- League a certainty, In both the scottish cup and league cup AND still in europe.

I can see where you are going with this, all that doesn't matter. Means nothing without "clean sheet record"

Rayman, 5 trophies out of 14 was it. I would not say that was an achievement, more like a Complete Underachievement

Christ Rayman. Lennon a Celtic legend you must be on the whacky backy.

Stein, Jinky, McNeil, Larsson and many others from days gone by. Please don't insult these greats by having Lennon in there

06 Jan 2015 20:35:42
Aberdeen fans on twitter not happy Niall McGinn was sitting in the Celtic end with Stokes last night, Rumours are he celebrated both goals. Hilarious! JCGE

I think McGinn should be suspended for at least 12 games . What he did was certainly worse than I Black who got 12 games and it was only because he played for Sevco that he got 9 suspended. A long suspension and two or three injuries would help Celtic to win the league easier.

Haha Stan it would be even funnier if his manager had given him a lift to the game as mcinnes was in on the t.v. panel ☺

Always really liked McGinn, his pace would be great & welcome by RD in the formation he is trying to implement, Always thought it was very petty for NL to let him go!

Why the long ban Chris 02? Did he BITE you in excitement at the scoring of the first or second goal lol?

06 Jan 2015 23:30:27
Seen wee McGinn in the shamrock bar in Santa ponsa last summer! Always liked him! Doesn't matter who he's playin for now! He'll always be a tim! :D

Mcginn had his problems with Lennon, but I would have him back in a second. We would get goals from him and through him and he would certainly play many more games than Forrest.

Maginn had his problems after he received Bomb treats, he had been injured prior to then and was back in training . He never played well after that for Celtic and could you blame him On his day he was quite good for Celtic but them bas.ds finished his Celtic career .

Agree JJ we would get more out of him than Forrest scores more assists more and isn't injured all the time

06 Jan 2015 15:38:55
Can I ask you Ed and everyone else what is your take on RD's post match celebration in particular away from home?

Obviously now it is becoming more of an issue/talking point with Sly commenting on it last night

This is not a criticism of RD it is just that if NL was doing this a have a feeling that there would be headlines or he would have "been spoken too" regarding "inciting the crowd" or "he should no better" etc. and would be booed off the park by the opposing opponents fans

Is the fact that because RD is not "Celtic minded" that they cannot "label him" why he i'd getting away with it? Is it a matter of time an external force tries/gets him to curb it?

Any thoughts folks? ATVB JB7

Personally I like it. Nothing wrong with him showing a bit of passion and thanking the fans

Think it's great before RD was supposedly lacking passion now we are being told it's over the top by another ex player that thinks it's great to put the boot in (Andy walker). Some of Celtics play last night was excellent RD will drag the whole club into the 21st century don't understand how anyone as stated in previous posts can think he's Lawells pupet

Yes all well and good celebrating but we are fans who are used to playing in the champions league and winning being clear at top of the league by now, so celebrations like that for a win over Kilmarnock seems over the top to me

He already explained that is a thank you to travelling fans. Also have you noticed how the vast majority of such fans are right behind him?

A don't think he's Lawwells puppet, A think he was 4th or 5th choice, a think he was a cheap option, A think PL ran out of options or was running out quickly of options

A don't think RD is a puppet!

Hi GJ no doubt about it fans are right behind him when he does, as a have said before that is some passion but as someone else said it is beginning to get "highlighted"

So how long before someone says "curb it"? why can they ask him to then when they have not done so already? He is only showing passion! so how do you the measure the "zealousness" of it?

One thing is for sure if he was "Celtic-minded" he would NOT be getting away with it IMO because someone would be saying he should no better! or he is "stirring it"

A hope a made that a bit clearer atvb

It really is a matter of concern, whether Deilaa celebrates too much after our games. We really need to look at ourselves . Why can't Deila celebrate as he wishes? Wouldn't it be worse if we had nothing to celebrate.

Jamie it doesn't matter what choice RD was. Its the same policies as trying to sign a player, sometimes you don't get first choice and end up signing 3rd, 4th, 5th etc. As long as they do the job is all that matters.

It's funny our away "fans" are always more supportive of the manager than our home fans who are more supportive than the forum shoite stirrers

Yeah GJ I think he will continue to do it as the away support continues to outshine the home support.

@wee1888 I think your missing the point if you think that is him reacting to the fact that we just beat killie.

He is entitled to celebrate with the fans when we win, it was a big result last night so well done and enjoy it. I never pay any heed to Andy Walker, his comments are always negative and he comes across as a buffoon who has convinced himself he is a genius

To be perfectly honest I don't believe a second of it! He did it before the Dundee game at Dens and the team turned in an completely toothless display! It's all an act if you ask me! I don't have anything against RD I just don't believe he is the man to take the club forward! As a team we have taken a giant stride backwards! Just my opinion

@edinbhoy I don't think I am missing any point, if he was not celebrating beating Killie what was he celebrating it certainly wasn't going top of the league.

Point 8 agreed DN30 As discussed on Sat does not matter as long as results & performances are acceptable

point 9 does not merit a response!

I honestly don't understand the fuss regarding RDs celebrations, after all the abuse he gets from the media and most shocking of all the fans, why not celebrate a victory a lot of the media didn't think we could win eg the surface and form of our last two games.killy.

It is terrible the number of Celtic fans are influenced by what the Sottish Media says and writes .
Come on bhoys, react to what you see before, during and after the match, not what negative jealous ex-Celts and other journalists who are also negative towards Celtic tells you.
As long as Deila doesn't run across the pitch bare- arsed we shouldn't be too worried .

Jamibhoy, it may be your opinion that point (9) doesn't merit a reply .
However everybody might not think
that, Nobody refers to the nonsense you post as warranting or not warranting a reply

17 ) you are right it don't merit a reply it would not have got that reply if you had put up such a negative reply in the first place!

Jamiebhoy,
You can't help yourself, bhoy, even when you have nothing to contribute you still have to reply to me .

Maybe you should seek help.

06 Jan 2015 08:39:19
Linked with the young Accies left back Stephen Hendrie again today, can't say i've noticed him much (even though they're supposed to be my wee team lol, shameful) Anyway Ed, Accies sympathisers, is he any good & are we really after him? Cheers

Hi Anton from what I've seen of hamilton he looks like a good player. Him and Ali Crawford. But better than we have?

He's out of contract in summer but west ham are after him too. He wants to play EPL but he's also a Celtic fan so he will have a tough decision to make

I wouldn't be sure he has that big a decision . There may not be that many in for him

06 Jan 2015 11:07:47
I thought they really played well last night.
I hope they can get the Commons situation sorted out, as I feel he is our most creative player.
He might be a bit inconsistent, but when he plays well, he is head and shoulders above anyone else in the team in my opinion.

That's it Gerry when he plays well, that's the issue this season. I would keep him for Domestic only as in Europe he just can't cut it.

Is it suspicious that Commons was left out of the winter break? Supposidly an uncl passed away, RIP. I really hope he gets another year offer to take it to a 2 year deal. His form seems to dip with this hanging over him but last night was a brilliant display. He deserves his deal on last season alone!

HH

ShottsBhoy

06 Jan 2015 15:43:26
Kev T none of our players have it cut in Europe this season! Forgive me if I'm wrong but who scored the crucial goal against spartak Moscow 2 seasons ago to get us into last 16 of CL? Who scored the vital 1st against Karagandy to get us to get us on our way to the champions league last year? Yes he mite not be European class but there's a lot worse than him in that team!

Agree with you that in Europe the whole team has been poor this year but Commons in Europe ( penalty that hit the bar against Spartak ) has been missing for 4 years.

Anyways we all know that we only qualified from the group because a full strength Benfica missed sitter after sitter against a Barcelona b team

06 Jan 2015 17:52:56
Aye penalty that hit the bar and where did it end up? And I would hardly say he's went missing in 4 years mate.now anthony stokes for example is another matter! His record in European football is shocking! Not wantin to single stokesie out but if u use him as an example,we paid what 1 million for him and a couple of hundred grand for commons! Look at goals commons gives us(from midfield) even in Europe he's got a more than stokes! Just think commons gets treated very harshly on here considering what we payed and what he's given back that's all.

Supposidy an uncle died . Does that mean an uncle died or that you think some-one lied about the death .
I think Stephen Ireland proved the telling lies about relatives death doesn't work out . I expect Commons and Celtic to be better than that .

What you sniffin now chris?

D1888 - am not a hater of Commons, I think he has been a superb buy but like all players age catches up. I don't think we should give any player over 30 more than a years contract. We have seen before with Commons that he can have a bad season and so far, the Killie game apart he is having another.

I would say that Rd cannot change this team as it was an overall great performance IMO. Yeah it was Killie we beat but if Lady Luck was on our side we could have had double figures.

Jim Jim
An uncle doesn't supposedly die as posted early .
Celtic or Commons must have said an Uncle of Commons died . Therefore we don't do a Scottish Media, we believe it

Last time I checked supposedly just meant what is generally believed. Perhaps Shotts wasn't 100% about such a subject so didn't want to say for definite.

You post some pretty sensible stuff, but why you jump on peoples backs without reason but just for the sake of it irritates the hell out of me. I mean, almost accusing Shotts of accusing somebody of lying about a death! What's that about? Calling folk on here anti celtic or celtic haters at every opportunity. What's that about? Using the word fans as "fans", as if you're the only proper fan. Having the audacity to say this forum has "shoite stirrers" too! Then there was the whole Ambrose thing the other day which for once you were right to keep shut about. Should adopt that approach a bit more often.

@Chris02. Calm the head son! I was meaning that I heard his uncle died and I was unsure if the rumour was true or not stop being a c*ck!

I was quick to write him off as he has no pace but he is like the 'Lampard' of the SPL. A goal scoring midfielder with the ability to change the game with a bit of magic but has no pace. If City can find a position in the team for Lampard who is to say we can not with Commons?

It seems to me you were not sure that Commons uncle had died because you were unsure if the report was true or not . I would leave the the not believing either a statement from Celtic or a Celtic player to the media or supporters of other teams .

The complaining about calling fans who ridicule Celtic, the manager or players as anti or haters, I have regularly asked for alternative names that maybe would be nicer . As far as those who post all the negative about Ambrose, I find it difficult to use words to describe them . Did any poster on here post that Ambrose set up our second goal last night . Why quick to condemn him and not give him credit for setting up the goal. Is there a reason?