Celtic Banter Archive August 08 2015

08 Aug 2015 22:05:07
Had a look at the player list from Malmö vs Salzburg and compared them to when celtic played Salzburg and there were only 4 or 5 players from that team playing against Malmö and this didn't include the Brazilian Alan and Soriano, so Salzburg don't look anywhere near as strong as they were last year, so let's hope the result flattered Malmö

09 Aug 2015 00:30:56
Pat , it looked very much as if all three goals were nearly presented to Malmo.
If we do our job , and I am confident that we will we should go through .

09 Aug 2015 03:12:32
Wits up oaps am getting there bur come on hail hail we cando this trhoops x

09 Aug 2015 04:30:12
One too many shandys, maybe?

09 Aug 2015 05:03:06
Malmo are not doing well domestically. They are 6th after 18 games. i'm confident we will go through

09 Aug 2015 08:48:46
DN there's not many points between those top six mind bud. But yeah, I'm confident too. We can be beating any side in that draw over two legs. I must have worked it out wrong from the start. I was always confident about the first two rounds, but I was a bit iffy about the third but that's because I thought we could get an unseeded league route side! At this stage I wouldn't have fancied us against a Lazio or CSKA etc. can't see it, but I almost pray we sign one or two proven players if we get there proper.

09 Aug 2015 09:41:41
Salzburgs ST Alan has moved to China for the mega bucks an I think Soriano has had a bad injury. They have also sold that lad with the blond hair to Dortmund after the played us and really they were the best 3 player in the Salzburg team

09 Aug 2015 10:43:09
Jesus frewbhoy more than a couple lol feeling it now mind u no offence intended bhoys :) just hope a never went over to the dark pages the eds will b wantin to give a slap haha hail hail 3-0 the day

09 Aug 2015 12:39:38
The fact that Malmø is not doing that good domesticly worries me. It's so typical for scandinavian teams to do better in Europe when doing bad in the league.
That being said, I think you guys will make it anyhow.

09 Aug 2015 18:39:58
Boys we have discussed the RD revolution here many times. We are a year on. He had his style that all ayers now try and play. I for one have never bought into this style of play or the "dominating teams in Europe talk". I can't see how we beat Malmo. They are not a European powerhouse but Celtic neither are Celtic. We can't score goals. I give us very little chance of qualifying. You can back RD all you want and I am sure that if we don't qualify many posters will have many excuses as to why we didn't make it and I just can't see us making it so start your excuses now.

08 Aug 2015 15:27:16
Watching final score on my phone big Sutton Is on it and we're talking about man United needing a centre half says a lot of talk about stones to Chelsea or man United and he says going to put it out there guy north of the border vvd 7 million getting quoted Sutton says is a shocking evaluation and he's a better player than John stones

08 Aug 2015 15:34:01
Hard to judge but defensively, Stones looks a better prospect. Virgil is a rare centre back though. You don't get many more technically gifted than him. He's a luxury in ways. Yes Stones has played a run in the BPL but there is no way Virgil is only worth 7m if Stones is worth 30m.

08 Aug 2015 15:40:32
he said it on wed during the game as well , said if stones is valued at 25 million that's what we should be asking for vvd ,about time ex celtic men spoke out like this

08 Aug 2015 21:02:50
The reason the English players go for so much is because of the quota that all Premier League clubs need to have. VVD ain't English so he has no premium. Don't matter if he is better or not. We might get £9 mill and a sell on but we will do well to get a significant amount over that.

09 Aug 2015 00:38:50
Part of the reason , Cceltic players are sold at a fraction of the prices EPL players go for is that if Celtic look for example £20 m the interested club ask Celtic what wages is the player on . The buying club say that wage represents £5 m . So Celtic have to fight to get £7/8£10 +million no matter how good we think our player is.

09 Aug 2015 15:03:47
Naw it duzny. It always goes on what people are willing to pay. If you get a young untried player your bit going to offer him big wages, unless your mental. Whits the point in trying to unearth gems if you can afford to pay that money? If your scouting us good?

It has all to do with how he is as a player and how much they are willing to spend.

09 Aug 2015 21:06:53
Clubs who unearth gems pay very small wages compared to more experienced players. Either it is already in the initial contract or else a new contract is agreed to arrange for a higher wage to reflect the performance on the field .
You will recall Big Victor refused a new contract , as the new contract with higher wages would have allowed Celtic to seek a higher price for him .

08 Aug 2015 14:21:16
Right, Europe and insignificant investment aside for a post - tomorrows game.

What changes, if any, would people want to see?

I ask this because

a) I think a lot of the 'first team' could do with a rest.

b) With no disrespect to our domestic opponents, we are in a position, unlike say, Malmo, where we have a bit of lee way in RDs second season to give youngsters a chance to showcase.

So my team:

Bailly

Janko
Virgil
Boyata
Tierney

Brown
Henderson

GMS
Rogic
Armstrong

Griffiths

Gordon has done well so far this season and changing a keeper may be viewed as more detrimental than most positions but I'd just like to see a bit of Bailly. I'd like to think he can genuinely challenge for No.1. Was immense in Germany.

Janko and Tierney quite simply to replace full backs but keep Virgil and Boyata together to develop their understanding further.

Hope Henderson gets a run out. Could partner Bitton or Brown to be fair. Just put Brown in as I think he's fitter than Bitton.

Rogic is a player that I was really looking forward to and I've put him with the young GMS and SA. But Commons could easily come in and do a job.

Griffiths. Only real option.

Too many changes? Perhaps even in defeat it would be worth the time?

08 Aug 2015 14:38:21
Good shout Jim more so I would say in right back

08 Aug 2015 18:14:05
I thought Henderson went to Dundee Utd on a years loan?

08 Aug 2015 19:49:27
JT. the only one exception I would make is Gordon, Its all very well getting a rest however for keepers its a different story, they need to be match sahrp.

08 Aug 2015 21:20:33
I would be happy with that team Jim as I would like to see some guys rested for Malmo and some of our youth and fringe given a chance to prove themselves.

Finally, I would like to add that we can't keep signing players if we want to see the young players developed.

08 Aug 2015 21:42:39
Commons infront of rogic for me but not a bad shout the rest

08 Aug 2015 22:34:35
Think there was talk of it Junglebhoy but I think he's still with us.

08 Aug 2015 22:38:49
Wouldn't mind seeing some youngsters given a chance, but geez a break with the players getting rested. It's August

09 Aug 2015 09:34:19
Would love to see this sort of rotation but don't think as many as that will happen, RD has been good at giving youth more chance however he said last season he wouldn't change too much after the poor start we had. RabMac spot on we can't keep signing players and give youth a chance.
I understand comments from supporters wanting a couple more and better quality however I'm just happy we have a guy in charge wanting to develop youth in a way we should have done 3/5/10/20 years ago (take your pick).

08 Aug 2015 09:32:46
Won't be buying that kramer has signed for feyenoord

08 Aug 2015 11:18:02
dn30 will be gutted ,,imo he was another averge low budget option anyway ,and dn3o will agree cifti is the better long term option

08 Aug 2015 14:45:40
Lmao deep river bhoy, your right mate lol. Do geniunely believe Kramer would of done a job for us though.

08 Aug 2015 21:27:14
I'm glad we did not sign him as I don't think he is any better than what we already have.

As much as I would love us to sign a striker of note, I would be equally glad to see some Donnelly and/or Miller given a chance this season.

08 Aug 2015 00:27:18
Hi Ed and all

Not posted in over a year for various reasons that I won't bore folk with. Ed hope you are doing better buddy.

I just wanted to say I am pretty astounded at the level of negativity just now, we have played 5 competitive games this season to date - won 4 drawn 1 scored 9 conceded 1.

We should be very happy to be in this position.

Looking forward to the Malmo games quietly confident, a lot more than in previous years of qualifiers.

Yes we need strengthening but there is not a team in Britain or Europe that doesn't.

C'mon guys let's get behind the hoops, I am now 5000 miles from Celtic park but as buzzing as ever about the new season.

CeltStu

{Ed007's Note - Nice to hear from you, Stu. I'm fine thanks and hope you're doing well.}

08 Aug 2015 00:41:29
Good thanks Ed,

Moved from Dubai to Houston. Think the company are trying to get me further from Parkhead!!

Glad to hear you are good.

Anything further on this rumour of a striker? Cheers

{Ed007's Note - It's alright for some!! (sun) You didn't leave Dubai because a couple of rowdy Scousers turned up all bubble-perms and knocked off DVD players did you?
I've not got a clue who the striker Radio Snyde are on about, player like Kramer and Sergio Araujo have all been mentioned before.}

08 Aug 2015 02:46:23
Celtstu nobody is complaining about the results, its the striker issue that is main concern. Are people automatically "negative" now because they are questioning signing Cifti, a player who is not as good as Griffiths?

08 Aug 2015 03:11:02
Haha thanks Ed, too many deluded Sevconians in Dubai, now I get to detest the Texas Rangers.

Didn't realise it was a Snyde rumour! That won't be happening then.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha the cheeky git was asking about the scousers as I am in Dubai now.}

08 Aug 2015 03:12:05
CeltStu

Houston has to be better, mate. Just got to Tulsa myself. let's try to catch a game sometime.

08 Aug 2015 10:55:23
Keep calm and we can all judge once the window closes. Even if we signed another striker now there is no guarantee he would settle before the Malmo games or that he would score goals right away.

I am reasonably happy with the strikers we do have and realise it can take players a while to get back up to speed in the new season.

Ciftci is not yet at the fitness level he needs to be to play the role and for that reason I would start Griffiths at Parkhead when we play Malmo. If you cast your minds back to last season, it took our players about 6 months to get the required fitness levels, so we need to give him time to bed in.