Celtic Banter Archive June 30 2011

30 Jun 2011 23:24:42
Hemed untested was always going to be squad player chose to play in spain

Danns snubbed rangers and celtic believe he could hae done a job

Conway was never offered a contract as he said he does not want to live in gold fish bowl of playing for OF

Cuellar not worth 3 mil because of injury and lenth of contract could get him for nowt next season or peanuts at xmass plus come xmas he would be over injury

wallace not over yet but mad vlad will do anything to stop his players signing for OF wallace has said himself he wants the move

Goodwillie rangers dont value him at 2 mil and neither do cardif or any club as thomson has said he is for sale at that price and i dont see a big q at tanadice with 2 mil the fact of the rape case plus now another assult means you could spend 2 mil on a player who is sitting in bar L


anyone disagree with anything i have said please feel free to come back at me if you are gona be sensible lol


Tony"


Bottom line is tony, rangers so called warchest list isnt anywhere near what we are lead to believe. they have offered washers as wages to these players, craig conway has went to cardiff for more money fact, you wont pay the dough for goodwillie, y try to sign hemed if he wasnt gonna improve ur team? danns defo offered more money at leicester. u offered 300 grand for wallace. the kivhanisvili deal all over again. we have been getting slagged for years with the biscuit tin joke but it is rangers that are the biscuit tin team and have been for a while. u ave just offered new contracts to david healy and that algerian guy out of fear that u cant persuade anyone to come to you, both of which nevr got a game for u last season.

while we were very dissapointed to lose the league last year, it was also a project in transit as we spent decent money wisely inyoung players to build a good young squad that will progress 2gether for the next 4 or 5 years and be successful. you have even offered big bambi another year at 41 years of age, he cant even run for christ sake. im looking forward to the next few seasons at parkhead with optimism because the gers are crumbling and even second rate players wont go to you as u wont even pay them what they are worth even with the lure of champions league football. rangers fans are getting the wool pulled over there eyes by mr white (full of shi*e). we have had it for years, how th tables have turned. mon the hoops

Who you signing then Tony? Names please?

30 Jun 2011 22:41:33
Glasgow Rangers are champions we are not the team needing to do the signing as we havent lost any first team players , its the team who doesnt win the league who needs to improve. so even if we dont get anyone we will still run this league with the same team who played the last 6 games for rangers and conceded 1 goal

so bhoys concentrate on your own team before you start slagging the scottish champions

SUPER ALLY {Ed007's Note - I can't wait for the answers to this one :-)

Haven't lost any first team players eh. I'm pretty sure between Weiss, Bartley, Foster and Diouf there were a fair few first team appearances

Four points:

1. If that is the case then why are Rangers trying to sign new players.

2. Why did the outgoing manager Walter Smith state that Rangers must sign new players for this season.

3. Man Utd have made several signings alreday and they were English Champions. Don't think Sir Alex will be following your words of wisdom.

4. Once you do sign some players are you going to be annoyed because you don't need them.

This is a typical Govan Nun in total denial.

K.

Hey pal Lennon is CONCENTRATING on his own team hence all the transfer activity he is also planning ahead which is more than whyte is doing. My 2 pals Rangers daft say they need at least 4 first team players not squad members also if whittaker, bougherra and davis dont sign extended contracts their attitude must also be questioned BIG problems down copland road that need addressing now, our own team Celtic is being made stronger by a manager and board working in harmony something not in evidence down ibrox way Timalloy

Deluded

Miko

30 Jun 2011 20:16:44
"Tony - why hasn't he spent it. He has clearly identified targets he wants to sign - Hemed, Danns, Conway, Cuellar, Wallace and Goodwillie, plus those we don't know about. They were or are all available.

Hemed untested was always going to be squad player chose to play in spain

Danns snubbed rangers and celtic believe he could hae done a job

Conway was never offered a contract as he said he does not want to live in gold fish bowl of playing for OF

Cuellar not worth 3 mil because of injury and lenth of contract could get him for nowt next season or peanuts at xmass plus come xmas he would be over injury

wallace not over yet but mad vlad will do anything to stop his players signing for OF wallace has said himself he wants the move

Goodwillie rangers dont value him at 2 mil and neither do cardif or any club as thomson has said he is for sale at that price and i dont see a big q at tanadice with 2 mil the fact of the rape case plus now another assult means you could spend 2 mil on a player who is sitting in bar L


anyone disagree with anything i have said please feel free to come back at me if you are gona be sensible lol


Tony"
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Still don't buy what you're saying Tony. Everything at Ibrox is rosy, with ridiculous triumphalist outbursts, then when you don't sign you're targets, there is a list of lame excuses.

Hemed untested? Don't think so. The guy is 24 and a full internationalist. And why was your first signing target for a striker going to be a squad player. Surely the first striker you sign should be a regular for the first team, to strengthen your position.

Danns snubbed Rangers. You conveniently didn't say much about this one. Ranger's didn't offer him a high enough salary. If you did, he'd be a Rangers player today. Whether Celtic had any interest is irrelevant, if you wanted him, you should have paid the wages.

Conway. Oh yes, "he was never offered a contract", straight out of the Rangers book of excuses. You wanted the player, otherwise you wouldn't have spoken with him. If you'd offered the right money, then he'd have joined, irrelevant of any goldfish bowl.

Cuellar. Rangers were fully aware of his injury position and contract position when making their offer. You sold him for over £8m and he is a decent player. Given he has played in the premiership, £3m in not unrealistic. Rangers would know before making their offer that they could get him for no fee next season or a reduced fee at Christmas, so this is a bit lame, as he is worth £3m today.

Wallace. Agree with you on the Mad Vlad comments, but offering an initial £300k then coming upto £1m just shows the mentality of Rangers attitude to transfers. Don't think you'll get him though because of Mad Vlad.

Goodwillie. The position with the assault case is not new. He was charged months ago and and his case was given an initial diet at court today. The media are reporting it as something new. As such, Rangers were well aware of both the assault and rape cases when making their offer. Are you saying that it's justifiable to pay £1m for a player who has a strong chance of going to jail. Don't think Celtic would do this. In fact, we wouldn't want someone with this type of character at our club, but this seems acceptable to Rangers. Whether he is innocent or guilty is irrelevant, he has too much baggage. The transfer window between English and Scottish clubs does not open until tomorrow, and I'd expect to see more activity from English clubs next week in respect of Goodwillie.

The bottom line is, Whyte is not prepared to deal in the market in the manner he "suggested" he would to Rangers supporters, or rather conned you into believing. Remember the triumphalist boats of how much you had to spend.

I don't think you have justified your argument Tony. How can you justify not signing ALL of your targets. Was it all the big bhoys fault

K.

K it quite easy hemed wasnt worth more than 8thousand a week. danns we dont no what he was offered but he went to leicester for the money. cuellar not worth 3 million imo leave until newyear .conway didnt want a move to the oldfirm. there is a limit and its rumoured to be no more than 30thousand per week and the only player mentioned worth that is cuellar.but only if hes fit like i said leave until november december and have a look then goodwilly wouldnt touch cant behave himself wallace what we offered is fair i have been on this page saying im not for overpaying for any player it seem to me anytime we are linked to a player the club they are with think they can charge what they like and the player wants his wages doubled . what manner did whyte suggest because i have watched every interview and read the papers dont no were your going with that one. what you have said is the targets we have up to now not signed like i sayed i am not for overpaying simple as that. we have done that enough times. whyte has said we need 4-6 players and is working on that infact to justify it is simple we had a price they had a bigger one and for the players on offer not worth it simple big rab by the way making the blind see

Hemed full international he has played 1 game ya thick moron {Ed007's Note - Does that not make him a full international?}

Just because Mr Whyte has money, what makes you think he plans to spend millions on Rangers?...and don't tell me its because "He said so in the papers".

A couple of our benefactors have more money in their back pockets than Mr Whyte does yet we are hardly big spenders.

Also, most of Mr Whyte's apparent £700mil is tied up in real estate. Do you all expect him to flog a couple of hotels just to provide Rangers with 3 or 4 players? I think not.


Personally, i believe he is right not to want to big the £2mil asking price on Goodwillie although im suprised any sort of bid has been made due to is on-going court proceedings. As for Wallace, i hope the bid was 1 million fag coupons and not £1mil...the boys is absolute 'Colin Nish'.

FuriousD

You go for your top targets first and if you don't get them, you then go for your second choice, then third, then fourth, etc. etc. Rangers haven't got any of their first choices, so any players that now come in are second choice at best.

Whyte said there was £25m available for players, that being £5m each season over 5 seasons, but there would be more available in the first season if McCoist required it. Very clear.

K.

So 5million and more if he need it he never said how much more or if it part of the working capital which i suspect is the case so i think ally will choose wisely not a lot of money for a club of rangers stature but where in a better place this year than last year imo big rab by the way

He hasn't chosen very wisely so far, as everyone has said NO.

K.

K.that choose for you do you think every target celtic go after they get or is theres a limit? lets see whos smiling end of 2011/2012 season i can tell you im happy with the last three seasons big rab by the way get a point over with out insulting anyone

Rab, the point is that Rangers have got none of the targets they have gone for. If this was my team, I'd be very concerned.

Of course Celtic will go for players and lose out, but already we've brought in Matthews, Wilson and Wanyama and are looking good for another 2 or 3. We've also brought in I think 3 players for the future. I'm absolutely delighted with this.

Our major target has now got to be a goalkeeper, although I trust that Lennon and Lawwell are working hard in this regards

K

Blinkers are well and truely on....Miko

30 Jun 2011 18:09:49
"Tony - what is your point. If he doesn't spend it, then it doesn't matter how much he has.

The only evidence of him spending any money on Rangers, is him and Ally going to the same hairdresser for matching shampoo and sets.

my point is he has money as Yet he has not spent it if Dermot Desmond wasnt so bloody tight you could be competeing in the transfer market with Man U Arsnel, Man City as whyte is rumoured to be a millionaire where as dermot is a billionair in comparison whyte is skint lol

if you are going to direct a question direct to me please leave your name so i can answer direct


Tony {Ed007's Note - It won't matter what money owners have once the FFP rules come into place. Clubs will only be able to spend what they make. Mr Abramovich at Chelsea has always stated his intent for Chelsea to eventually fill their team with players that have came through their system along with some quality additions bought in if required. Manchester United have scoured the globe also to try and find young players who will be first team players by the time the FFP ruling comes into effect}"
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Tony - why hasn't he spent it. He has clearly identified targets he wants to sign - Hemed, Danns, Conway, Cuellar, Wallace and Goodwillie, plus those we don't know about. They were or are all available.

Having the money is irrelevant, if he isn't spending it on the targets that Rangers have openly identified.

It's very clear - he isn't offering the players the wages they want, and isn't offering the clubs the sale price they want.

Resigning Healy and Weir isn't setting the heather on fire - no one else wants your pensioners.

K. {Ed007's Note -Good evening to you K-Dot}

Got to laugh at this pensioner jibe yea davie weir is getting on a bit but lets be honest here bhoys hes not coming up against world class strikers is he even celtic cant attract EPL standard strikers and as for healy he is the same age as bellamy and you are very interested in him so what has age got to do with it. as for whyte losing out on players maybe he dosnt think they are worth the money they want paid or what thier clubs value them at take goodwillie for instance utd want 2 mil whyte says hes not worh that 3 other teams have made offers but none have offered 2 mil so whyte just might be right.

if newcastle offer big herman to celtic for 4 mil lennon would tell em to go jump not because celtic are skint because big herman aint worth 4 mil agree

Tony

Tony

Ed007, Tony, Billyboy just looked on other site cannot believe this, one bear wrote and i quote "now that goodwillie has been charged will that put R.....s in a STRONGER position to get him? The other ed0010 replied "maybe but we would have to negotiate contract so no wages paid if he was in jail"Honestly you could not make it up Timalloy PS can you imagine big Jock Stein with this scenario goodwillie's feet would not have touched ground on his way THROUGH the door at parkhead

Healy's the same age as Bellamy....hahahahahahahahahaha...that's where the similarities end...what a moonman....Miko

30 Jun 2011 17:33:15
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Tony - what is your point. If he doesn't spend it, then it doesn't matter how much he has.

The only evidence of him spending any money on Rangers, is him and Ally going to the same hairdresser for matching shampoo and sets.

my point is he has money as Yet he has not spent it if Dermot Desmond wasnt so bloody tight you could be competeing in the transfer market with Man U Arsnel, Man City as whyte is rumoured to be a millionaire where as dermot is a billionair in comparison whyte is skint lol

if you are going to direct a question direct to me please leave your name so i can answer direct


Tony {Ed007's Note - It won't matter what money owners have once the FFP rules come into place. Clubs will only be able to spend what they make. Mr Abramovich at Chelsea has always stated his intent for Chelsea to eventually fill their team with players that have came through their system along with some quality additions bought in if required. Manchester United have scoured the globe also to try and find young players who will be first team players by the time the FFP ruling comes into effect}

30 Jun 2011 17:00:00
You can only gamble if you have money tony.
Jamie mac

Come on jamie the guys got money he might not spend any of it but he does have plenty

Tony

Tony - what is your point. If he doesn't spend it, then it doesn't matter how much he has.

The only evidence of him spending any money on Rangers, is him and Ally going to the same hairdresser for matching shampoo and sets.

30 Jun 2011 16:42:25
I'm impressed with the way Celtic are going about their transfer business this close season. Getting deals done, and getting deals lined up that look as though they're going through. It looks like we have a very good scouting system in place and a lot of work was done in identifying targets before the end of last season.

Good to see we've learned from last season when Celtic were telling the media they we interested in the likes of Sol Campbell, Craig Bellamy and Jamie Bullard.

Looks like the dark side from Castle Greyskull seem to be happy to link themselves with players who then reject them.

Like Westwood, Danns, who all rejected Celtic to?And your soon to be knocked back bye Bothroyd. {Ed007's Note - Danns? CFC never offered the player a deal in any way.}

I think i am also correct in saying that we never offered Westwood a contract. Forster was and probably still is Lennon's desired goalkeeper. {Ed007's Note - There was initial talks with Westwoods representatives but as far as I am aware they never got too far down the line, CFC were nowhere near offering him a contract, sadly IMO}

Celtic have so far tried to sign 3 players and have signed 3 players , Kelvin Wilson , Adam Matthews and Victor Wanyama , we had a bid turned down for Fraser Forster , we may go back in with an improved offer or move onto another target , we are close to signing Omer Damari and are looking at Mustafa Amani and Knowledge Musona , Rangers have been knocked back 4 times already , with only a 1 year extension for David Healy to show for your efforts , no serious transfer funds by the look of it

30 Jun 2011 16:12:11
STV reporter, Grant Russell, posts on his Twitter that the picture doing the rounds on Facebook and Twitter (also in the Dodgy Sightings page of this website) of someone being unveiled at Celtic Park is NOT Victor Wanyama. The person who snapped the picture had asked at the time to get a picture alongside the new player but was told he couldn't as things were still "under wraps". It was also speculated that it was Rhys Murrell Williamson. A youngster who we got agree to a pre-contract a few months ago but he has denied being in the picture. No one knows who this man is but it's certainly causing a buzz.

The silly bit though is if the reporter from STV knows that it isn't Wanyama, then why doesn't he just tell us who it is. If it's simply a player for the Youth Team, it's going to leave people very disappointed, the longer they leave it to unveil the name.

30 Jun 2011 15:42:15
Goodwillie arrested and charged with assault(again) so now has two charges over his head. He got convicted of assault in stirling last year, maybe The year before. He has previous for this so its fair to assume at least one more conviction is coming his way. Maybe if he goes to jail rangers could afford his wages on a work placement? Only way that nyaff will be at the darkside lol lol lol lol lol

Ed007 is this true he faces more charges if so dont these guys have a brain that everything they do will be scrutinised yet they dont seem to learn from their mistakes no team will go near him now if these charges are true Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Afternoon Tim, David Goodwillie has been charged over an assault in Glasgow, he does seem to have a habit of getting into situations that he would be better avoiding.}

30 Jun 2011 15:12:18
A wish people would stop hiding behind "transfer window not opened yet", tony deals can be done and agreed at any time of the year mate, jus cant register for the new club til it opens. De gea signed for man u yest for example. Season starts very soon, too soon for ally, so if he had dough he could be Sounding out players. Not embarrasing rangers fans with cheap bosman kbs and Desirory fees come up with sumthin else Jamie mac

I know what you are saying jamie but i think that as the transfer window draws nearer to closing a lot of the EPL clubs will be getting rid of some real good player because of the squad limit size i think its 25 (i hope this is the case) so it would be foolish to spend what little cash we have before the windows open. its like buying a holiday the nearer you get to the date the better the deal you get.


Tony

Hey jamie you use the words cheap bosmans can you tell me who celtic has signed and for how much

Tony

Hi Tony are you not getting worried that all your targets have said no while Lennon seems to get his men and THEY SEEM TO WANT TO COME TO CELTIC
dangerous game to wait until august to see who epl teams let go you need to get players in early Timalloy

I'f im correct here, 25 players is the EPL squad size limit BUT most (if not all) teams do not register players under the age of 20 in the first team squads, so guys liked Wiltshire & Ramsay at Arsenal don't need to be registered to appear in the first team. {Ed007's Note - Under 21s do not need to be registered in the 25 man squad}

30 Jun 2011 15:05:31
ref

So everyone that you have been linked with/said NO to Rangers are all red herrings in the hope that Celtic will sign them. Thats good to hear that will mean that you will be signing no one then as we will either buy them or they are not really wanted by rangers

here m8 this is the defenition of the word Banter as in Banter Page

ban ter/ˈbantər/
Verb: Talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way


an exchange of light, playful, teasing remarks; good-natured raillery.

you Muppet

muppet = slang a stupid person

look it up

Tony

You seem to be getting a little touchy Tony is that panic setting in because your old board told you that Whyte was not right.

Look at my previous post m8 thier is a natural order to things like concerned, worried extremely worried then panic right now im only still concerned lol

Tony

Hi tony at least you and "billyboy" can come on our site and have a laugh and some banter try kidding on your own darkforces sight and all you get is F...K O.F no sense of humour to go with your no new signings At least our ED007 is open to most things (legal) what about it Ed010 on R.....s site open your debate to EVERYONE Timalloy

30 Jun 2011 14:57:24
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Davis on verge of quitting rangers for Everton. , news going about

about where m8 the burger van outside parkhead this is not news this is wishfull thinking on your behalf m8 any ways he cant quit he is a footballer with a contract not the bloody tea boy

Tony

30 Jun 2011 14:14:26
here is Lennons trying to buy every guy on the market so there will be no one left to buy for rangers just like last season lol

last season you had enough players to make three teams but still couldnt put out a decent one to pip the mighty gers to the title again last season we won the League by one point if celtic can bring in a good goal keeper, midfielder, three defenders, and a partner for hooper then we might only win by goal dif this coming season ( thats if rangers dont strenthen)LOL

Tonydom

30 Jun 2011 14:03:47
hey Ed ive got Big T on the back of my rangers top was thinking of changing my name by deed poll to Oliver Tony then i can get BIG O T put on it what do you think lol

tonydom {Ed007's Note - Should go down well at the Temple of Doom Tony}

30 Jun 2011 10:12:44
On SSN talk of Bellamy coming back to parkhead, would be a great aquisition for the hoops.

Also hearing on alot of sites that a big CB coming in and also alot of rumours about the young man u keeper coming in kuszczak as well, alot of info but also alot of names with regards to the CB, but what ever player comes in will hopefully do well in the hoops.

Ed any solid news about wanayma whether it's a done deal or not?

Cumby Bhoy {Ed007's Note - The Wanyama dean is done and dusted with just a work permit to sort out, which CFC already knew would be needed. There is a picture of Wanyama at Celtic Park on our CFC sightings page}

Hi Ed007 what is truth about Damari? Sky say deal and wages agreed BBc say still talking and no offer yet made who do we believe? Timalloy {Ed007's Note - The deal is very close to being finalised from what I have been told Tim}

{Ed007's Note - The picture of Wanyama has been taken down until I can find out if it is him, there is a rumour going around it might be of another youngster who has signed}

30 Jun 2011 09:11:32
bellamy linked again

30 Jun 2011 08:21:26
It says on Omer Damari's wikipedia page that his current club is Celtic. ED - I assume they are jumping the gun a bit? {Ed001's Note - it is not worth looking at wiki, it regularly gets edited by people to suit themselves.}

Press over there say he has signed for Celtic

This is what it says on his Wiki - In June 29, 2011 it was agreed that the young striker will sign a 3-year contract for Scottish giants Celtic for a fee of £2 million[2] It has been said that his anus has been primed and ready for a good rogering int he coming years.