Celtic Banter Archive October 11 2011

11 Oct 2011 21:37:48
right im off catch all tomorrow


Tony {Ed007's Note - Night Tony, God bless mate.}

11 Oct 2011 20:50:32
you got to feel sorry for Fletcher hes just like another giggs of man utd and rush of Liverpool top class player who just happens to be born in a country that is pretty 5hit at football so he will proberly never play in a major international tournament

Tony

11 Oct 2011 19:31:13
Come On Scotland. Do us PROUD.
Come On You Boys In Blue

How can anyone disagree? Get behind your country ffs. Sad person. {Ed007's Note - It might not be the person's country.}

The problem on this page is to many scots support the Republic of Ireland as well as on the rangers page to many scots support england thats why people will press disagree {Ed007's Note - Some of the posters are from England, NI and Eire as well as other places, although you do have a point.}

I agree with you on the ROI one but not the one Rangers fans dont want Scotland to win. My mates are Rangers fans and die hard Scots. Its only when Scotland aren't in tournaments that some of them back England just to noise up Celtic fans. Scottish Celtic fans give their support to ROI no matter what. {Ed007's Note - I know plenty of Rangers fan that are fervent England fans and they aren't English, to think otherwise is ludicrous. Your mates sound like very mixed up people, how can a die hard Scot EVER support England, even as a wind up (though how that is a wind up again shows the mentality of your mates) in fact that is just plain pathetic TBH.}

Because its banter ed. They are not mixed up people its just banter. If NO one agrees with you ed all you do is try and bring them down catch a grip. So you know one Rangers fan that are fervent England fan and aren't English lmao. ONE Rangers fan yipee your the woman. You give it out edess all the time I take my hat off to you. {Ed007's Note - It is not banter to switch allegiance. I think the majority of people would agree. It must be hilarious when they belt out 'Flower of Scotland' then 'God Save the Queen' the following week. If you read what I wrote I said I know plenty, not one. I only bring people down who deserve, anyone who thinks switching support deserves it, you seriously need to question their loyalty to either team. No self respecting Scotland supporter would support England and then say it is just banter.}

I have to agree with the Ed here im a season ticket holder and ive seen Rangers fans with England Tops on maybe they are english born and bred if thats the case they sure have mastered the glasgow accent

tony {Ed007's Note - I don't really bother with international football, so anyone can support who they want. But to deny there is an element of Rangers fans that support England is ludicrous, for what ever reason they support them is neither here nor there, but they do exist. I'm not having a dig at any that do.}

I just seen Rangers fan. When i seen that i took it as one fan. I never realised when you wrote fan you ment hundreds sorry I'm not a mind reader. {Ed007's Note - The word plenty was a hint. It's not mind reading, it's words. No need to apologise for your own incompetence.}

Eh, she is the Queen of Scotland too Ed, so you can indeed support Scotland and support the Royal Family - As you can support scotland and the ROI - its not a crime, John McGeady was and still is a Scotland Supporter his Son Plays for ROI so I am sure he will support them also. {Ed007's Note - The song is still the ENGLISH national anthem. It has absolutely nothing to do with Scotland and actually the original version is offensive to Scots. I am not arguing with you over this, you are wrong and you know it. Who mentioned anything about the royal family? Every post is making you look thicker, I suggest you drop it. I am just going to delete your next post about CFC fans singing The Soldier's Song as I know that is where you will go. It was not part of the original post, it was you and your idiot mates assuming dual nationality in the name of 'banter'. Why would that wind up CFC fans apart from trying to cause trouble? Did your mates buy Motherwell tops to wear on cup final day just as a bit of banter. Another pathetic attempt from the small minded petty ABC (Anyone But Celtic). bunch of sad, twisted people.}

Who is talking about National anthems ? or songs - I never mentioned any song. I said you can support who you like, you turned it into a everybody hates celtic post WTF !!! {Ed007's Note - Take a deep breath and read the whole thread, you mentioned your die hard Scottish supporting mates that support England to wind up CFC fans. So WTF are you on about? Do you not even know what you are saying??}

Ed, you must be making this up as you go along. I'm getting called thick off you when i never posted the last one about the Royal Family. Did you post that one yourself hoping you will get more people posting? That is sad. As. I've said before bringing people down for a kick. Can you check my IP number against the one that posted that one please. I await your apology. {Ed007's Note - Don't hold your breathe. If you can't have the decency to use name you take what you get. I have better things to do with my time than memorize IP numbers. The tone of the posts are the same so I treated them as such. Highlights the problem with people too lazy to even put a tag on their posts to back up what they say. It's not as if anyone knows who anyone is.}

Ed, I am not the same person, who has the rangers mates I am not trying to stir trouble just saying that it is possible to support both nations, without a hidden agenda - you can be a patriotic scot and support any of the other home nations in any sport you like, I know many a rugby fan who support Scotland and Ireland yet wear the British and Irish Lions shirt - so its just not allowed in Football ? get a grip {Ed007's Note - Who do they support when they are playing each other? It is not patriotic to support another country, that the the complete opposite. Patriotic means taking pride and being inspired by the love of one's country, get a grip.}

England are not called the Auld Enemy for nowt....and, incidentally..the chopped Scotlands Queen's head off, quite near Hampden as well

You leave your name instead of hiding behind a number. Does it matter if scottish fans get behind all the British teams? ROI are a foreign country lol. If I was to shout for a foreign country it would be Spain lol. It says that a name is not required or email. Have you changed the rules?
Who is it I email to discuss something serious about a person on here? Cheers
Andrew Collins. {Ed007's Note - No the rules haven't changed, at least anything I say has something to identify it with. If people don't leave names it leads to confusion, I would think that was obvious. If you use the 'Contact Us' form I will get your e-mail and deal with it accordingly.}

O.k Andy Murray V Tim Henman at the Tennis - you can want Murray to win because you are scottish and if he happens to lose, then you can support Henman because he is from the UK. Why can that not apply to Scotland V England, NI or Wales in the football without it being a problem - as an End note, the Rangers Fans who sing GSTQ are at the windup - Im not one of them - I am Scottish, My Spouse is English and a mad Spurs fan - who was shouting for Scotland to win the night, but last saturday at the Rubgy she was in her England top .. So you now know that This Die Hard Scots fan doesn't like to see England beat us, but if we are not in the competition then I have no problem supporting them, I do like every other person have a problem the commentators and 66 ... good night and thanks for letting me post on the site . {Ed007's Note - LMAO.....Tennis?? Are you being serious??? Is nationality such a big part of tennis, I have no idea? Isn't loyalty in that more towards your own taste of player like in golf? I still fail to see how anyone can jump about with allegiances to a national team. Andy Murray is playing for himself, just because he is from Scotland is immaterial, he is introduced as an individual sportsman. You lost all credibility with saying Rangers fans sing GTSQ as a wind up, and I am sure there are plenty of Rangers fans that will agree with me. That is actually an offensive statement to a lot of Rangers fans I know. Who are they winding up in clubs at the end of the night when they sing it? There are no CFC fans to wind up there, they are singing it because they want to and are free to do so within the confines and rules of their social clubs. You seem to be struggling with the concept of banter, patriotism, national pride and what they mean.}

Something serious on here?Grow up mate you sound like a total s**t stirring knob.If you don't like it don't read it.

Ed , please for your own sanity if nothing else , ignore these "Sanny's" , it took the clowns many many years to think up wearing England tops to annoy Celtic fans , no Scottish person of sound mind wants to see England win at anything , the players , management , pundits , bookies and commentators are that far up themselves it beggers belief , no doubt England will have nothing to fear in Poland and Ukraine next summer , wtf are Spain ! sick listening to them m8t . {Ed007's Note - I don't have a problem with Rangers fans supporting England, like I said I only watch international football as a football match. My point is that you can't be patriotic and then shout on another country, it is the complete opposite of patriotic.}

Oh dear what a touchy subject. Thats quite a few today ed! bangin through the topics today!

Ive persaonally alwways seen true patriotism as a bit well racist in some regards, but thats just me and would take a mammoth post to explain ( not that im impartial to the odd mammoth post lol) .

I rekon the guy mentioning the tennis has a relativley valid point in its way but maybe not so much in tennis but as you said ed its an individual sport nationalism rarley comes into it ( davis cup aside). I see nothing wrong if at a tourney your home nation doesnt qualify then you can pick a nation to 'support'. (if i read into the overall point correctly)

Where the line i feel must be drawn is doing the 2 at once. Its a tad like saying i support rangers but look out for celtic scores and hope they win cos ive got a bit of a soft spot for them too. Doesnt work for team sports (or historical) greatest rivals really.

As for this on the wind up thing, i fail to grasp how this works!! we sing this cos it winds them lot up, i support england cos it winds them up? eh? support who you want to support , not who you think you should support cos you think it will pee someone off. if you want to support your nation fine, if another thats fine, but you cant really claim to be a true (insert nation) supporter/patriot if you do. Sounds like hedging your bets to me, support both that way got a better chance of getting a positive result! Sing what you want to sing and wear what you want to wear but be prepared to face consequences should any of these overstep societys boundaries! or you encounter the wrong eejit at the wrong place and time whilst doing it or the police if it warrants it.

Nationality is just a place of birth and a flag to identify under to recognise those roots. it is not the be all and end all and doesnt denote who you really are, let you make that up for yourself! If you want to be proud of it fine but dont be two faced and switch allegiances at the drop of a hat.

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I think you see it like me. Patriotism could be looked upon as a form of racism in certain contexts, but if it is just rivalry it is fine. I like to see Argentina do well at World Cups because I grew up watching Maradona and then Batistuta playing and they are my two favourite players on the worldwide stage from when you get doe eyed over players. That is just my preference as I really don't bother much with international football, but need an interest when it is on. I wouldn't wear their shirt or sing their national anthem to wind people up. Football is one of the most tribal sports in the world, and although I don't follow much rugby, I would imagine it is the same, no 'patriot' should ever cheer on another national team IMO. Individual sports are a completely different concept where nationality doesn't make any difference. For years I liked Sergio Garcia at golf, that doesn't mean I was a Spain supporter.}

FFS - Tennis, Golf Rugby, darts, tiddly winks it doesn't matter the Sport -its just an example of people being allowed to have Duel Nationality without if being a problem or have an agenda attached to it, your comment and I quote you " No die hard Scot should ever support England even as Banter" Why not ? why can you not give another nation your support if your own is not competing, is this such a big issue in your world, do you honestly think that National Pride or Patriotism is somewhat dilutted if do ? Its silly to say your not Scottish if you support someone wearing a Union Jack .. Your British ffs - get over it and as for the Rangers Fans Signing GSTQ - I meant at old firm games but I am sure you already knew that .. {Ed007's Note - Do you know what patriotism even means? It is not only derby matches Rangers fans sing GSTQ. You don't know if I am British or not and TBH it is none of you business, assumption can lead to error.}

Cant argue with that ed racist in certain contexts but a rivalry is fine in fact quite healthy. Some of human kinds gretests inventions and acheivements come in the face of rivalry amongst nations and individuals.... although now i think that through that does tend to mean war... but not always, think youl get what i mean!

Also agree with the hoping a team does well bit. was kinda the point i was trying to make. There is nothing wrong with that whatsoever in my book. Think the problems that causes in scots though is generally these nations are a hell of a lot better than ours lol. How many of us who have cheered on another nation actually sat biting our nails, growing older, swearing at tv etc over it... very few i suspect. ok maybe the swearing at poor officials but you guys know what i mean. Or singing the songs, travelling across the globe to watch etc etc etc its not really supporting its having a soft spot for them. You cant really do 2 at once and especially if you claim to be a patriot as ed says no patriot should ever cheer on another nation, it defies the whole meaning of patriot in a lot of ways!!

cant make a comparison to individual sports at all. Although in general i think a lot of people do choose the british guy to support in these kinda things more often than not. Or our media say we should support them as it would be unpatriotic to not to. but once again this is veering into a whole other debate, not one for 1am! lol

For the record i support my legs and they support me does that make me unpatriotic? lol and like scotland they rarley qualify for tournaments too! but i dont go supporting other people legs like they were my own!

Evinguu

I am a quarter Irish (grandparent). Have probably one of the most Irish names yoiu could imagine, but im Scottish through and through and have pretty much no interest how the ROI get on in games. For your postger to say all Celtic fans support ROI is a disgrace and ranging on the bigoted.

Just to point out ED007, You read the post again and you will find it was YOU who first brought up the singing part, then you blame someone else for it TUT TUT, As for the song GSTQ, I bet at some point in your life ED that you have sung it at some point and also it is the UK national anthem not just the English anthem. UK as is the Union Jack which part of that is the Saltire. As you will be aware ED the Union Jack is flown at Parkhead also. So lets get a grip it is only a song and it was YOU who started the singing thing ED. the original poster only stated of supporting other nations and nothing about singing {Ed007's Note - I have never sang it in my my life, I can assure you of that. I have no problem with people who do sing it, my problem is with people who can support 2 different countries, there is no British football team so that argument is out the window. Why do Scotland have their own national anthem, that is different from England's? Any patriotic or 'die hard' Scotsman would never support England, most members of The Tartan Army I know would cheer on anyone that was playing against England in matches. I have never met any Scottish fan, apart from Rangers fans, who would even consider cheering on England.}

To all the muppets banging on about supporting Scotland and England,someone has put it on the main pages,have a look and see what people think about it.I'm a proud Englishman and we don't need any plastic fans supporting us.If your Scottish then support your own country and less of this British BS. Britain has nothing to do with football.If there was a GB team how many of your diddy players would even be considerd, NONE.I laughed last night watching Spain trounce Scotland,thats what REAL England fans do.Never read so much carp on here before, your Eddy is right its pathetic.I've heard of glory hunters at clubs but NEVER at internationals. HAHA saddos.You have my sympathy Bond dealing with that tripe. LMAO
England '66 {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate.}

England 66 , much as you are typical of the "up yourself" English football fans , i totally agree with your point my man , i would be more surprised if you were rooting for Scotland last night , but come next summer we will hear all the usual sh- te again and as usual England will flop , thats why Scottish , Welsh , Irish and just about every other nation dont like the English , apart from the thick Rangers fans mate .

I had the misfortune to be at the England v Turkey Euro Qualifying game at the Stadium of Light (f88n old Roker Park) a few years ago. What a terrible, hate-filled, xenophobic load of steaming that was.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - I can imagine. I dread CFC getting a Turkish team in Europe every time there is a draw.}

11 Oct 2011 16:24:47
why dont the manky mob fans just go on there on pages a free up ours so we can talk about decent stuff on this.
Its got a bit boring reading all the guff there saying on this ie tony gez peace mate , u nwould give an askit a sore head.
HH.. {Ed007's Note - It is a banter site, anyone can post. What decent stuff? There is not much happening apart from internationals right now, or do you want to start talking about whether Robbie Keane will sign in January?}

Good point there Ed and since you mention it whats the chances of Robbie Keane giving up the mega bucks and sunshine of L A and moving to the club he always supported as a boy Celtic i heard he is planing to charter a plane and pick up Gatusso head down to london pick up Lampart then of to birmingham and liverpool to pick up Given and Bellamy then of to Glasgow Airport where Gatusso and Lampart will sign for Rangers and the three amigos will sign for celtic all in all should make an interesting second half to the season. given might find it hard to displace big herman tho lol

tony {Ed007's Note - I heard AF was paying for the plane and throwing in Macheda on a 3 HOUR long loan deal to replace the legendary Weiss and the massive hole he left in the Rangers squad when Big Bad Sally didn't want him back. We all know AF does anything he can to help out Rangers, he has supposedly told the Wee Pea to forget any notions of moving to Real Madrid, he will be going to Rangers on loan if he keeps playing the way he has since he arrived.}

See i Knew Sir Alex would be there when we needed him so much for all the pi5h of him being hounded out of Ibrox

Tony

He wash hounded out Tony , he'd tell you that himself , many players are hounded out of clubs , doesn't mean they stop supporting the club .

11 Oct 2011 15:29:13
while we are pondering why Neil Lennon gets singled out for abuse maybe you can enlighten me why we Nacho Novo got and still gets singled out by celtic fans i agree not to the same level as NL does ie Bombs and Bullets etc but he gets hate mail not to mention a celtic sung by many away celtic fans with the words ( die in your sleep with a bullet from an 1ra gun )take a look at his twitter page the poor guy still get abuse lol


tony {Ed007's Note - The song is out of order. Is it racist or sectarian? No. Maybe CFC fans have got it in for him because he went to Rangers instead of CFC, just like NL didn't sign for Rangers and has now played and managed CFC and is subjected to a level of hatred never seen before towards one man. Again Tony it is a minority and confined between both clubs, NL's hatred is across the country and nobody wants to admit why, or they are that gullible they don't know why they feel the need to abuse him at every ground.}

I agree Ed its a mystery why there is so much hatred towards him from such a cross section of football fans you can see rightly or wrongly why some Rangers fans despise him but as for the reasons the Hearts,Aberdeen,Motherwell etc fans do to is a mystery

as for we Nach he is like NL the more you guys hate him the more we love him

Tony

tony {Ed007's Note - Have a ganders at these Murderwell fans Tony. That wholesome community family club!!!}

Ive been reading these comments on and off all day and there are quite a few valid points across the board. Lennon has done things he shouldnt be too proud of ( havent we all) but does anyone deserve this kind of hatred? ok maybe hatred is too strong a word but in certain cases of goings on recently maybe its not. Lennon as a player was mainly there to irritate his opposition, wind em up, just so happened he was rather good at reading the game, winning the ball back and moving it on to try and start creating. He also had a knack for winding the fans up for some of his more rash and dubious challenges. Now this isnt the only reason he is disliked. There are the imbiciles who will use the religious / nationalist / republican rubbish to sput their bile. these are the people who this level of hatred should be aimed at! those who constantly bring this rubbish to the fore! not a man who is just doing his job. Yes he can be a bit arrogant shall we say, hes a professional sportsman its what they usually are! u need a bit of arrogance to get to the top, this has bred through into his management and he still reminds everone of lennon the player who most hated, they would admit he was good but an annoying wee sh!t. This is one of the reasons i think he is disliked everywhere he goes. This aided with all the referee crap last year, which he had a part in but most of which in my opinion was blown way over the top by the media and those wishing to jump on the lets blaim lennon bandwagon. I agree with a poster ( cant remember who) who said he should show more humility in defeat. There is an aura of excuses at times, never, they wanted it more, the were the better team we will get em next time positive comments, there is always a we let em win, or a refs decision is the main focusing of his questioning. Lennon doesnt bring this up himself he is asked what did u think of A,B,C and lennon being lennon will tell what he thinks. Telling people what you think riles a lot of people up esp if it sours a victory for another team hence fans disliking him again. Yes there are the acts i alluded to earlier and others have aswell. But basically it is a state of small mindedness by a lot of people that just look at everything at face value and dont scratch the surface to look into other explanations of what was said, how it was said etc etc. I for one dont love lennon, or dislike him, hes just a bloke in my eyes who isnt perfect and isnt an angel by any stretch of the imagination. I just wish the furore surrounding someone like lennon was channeled in a more appropriate way into aa subject that actually has some real influence on the world around us.

Right im affy good at going on and on, wish on forums like this folk could see what u typed as you type it so they can say shut up now!

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - That's a great post mate.}

Tony you never mentioned the time Nacho Novo got attacked walking down the street with his wife and baby that was in the pram. The minority of both set of fans are just SCUMBAGS. The abuse that some of the players and managers have to put up with just for wearing the blue of Rangers and Green of Celtic is nothing short of SHOCKING.
BBEAR {Ed007's Note - Like you say there are a minority idiots on both sides, we don't need to drag up everything that has happened, two wrongs don't make a right and there is absolutely no excuse for it.}

Evinguu come on mate you are definitely a Bear in disguise lol

Tony

You have to ask yourself - outside of celtic park - why does NL get so much abuse - NI catholic at Parkhead? So was MON - and so is the lad McGinn? there have been countless others throughout history and they have not suffered the same abuse- its not just at Ibrox - its practically every ground in the SPL - {Ed007's Note - Niall McGinn????? Are you serious?? Paddy McCourt? They received threats as well.}

Do they suffer the same level of abuse as NL does ? no they don't and thats the question I asked ? why NL {Ed007's Note - They were sent packages, I think that is far more serious than anything that gets shouted from the stands, don't you?}

You forgot Anton Rogan , who was abused by Nothern Ireland fans in the late 1980's and early 1990's , for joining Celtic .

11 Oct 2011 15:13:12
right thats one can of worms open an at least i got ppl talking lol (most of them about me not to me)

lets see if we can get the fingers typing again

heres a question for you guys to ponder there has been a lot of talk about players changing allegiance to other countrys for example Shane Duffy, Darron Gibson,and Daniel Devine after representing NI at all levels except senior levels jumping to the Republic regardless of what the countrys are do you think this is right

Tony {Ed007's Note - I'm not saying it is right Tony, but they are all allowed to do so under current FIFA rules. Why are you only highlighting Irish players? It doesn't mean players that do so should be subjected to racist abuse either, whether we agree with the rules or not, they are the rules.}

Im only highlighting irish players because that is the most prevalent just now i think its wrong i know its within the rules but none the less its wrong if you choose to represent a country at say under 21 level that should be it i hate when i see players regardless of which country they play for jump ship to suit their own needs. maybe im just being blinded by loyalty take me for instance ed i have dual nationality if i was a footballer who played for scotland and the usa came in for me i would like to think that i would look at it as the usa didnt want me at under 16,18 and 21 level so why now and i hope i would tell em to go shove it

Tony {Ed007's Note - That is why McCarthy chose Eire(at U-17 level), Scotland had shown no interest in him and McGeady had been in the Eire youth set up since Under-15s. They had made their choice as kids.}

11 Oct 2011 14:54:22
ref

So what you are saying Tony is if Lennon was a protestant Rangers player/manager he would still get the abuse, bullets and bombs. Take off your blue tinted specs and smell the coffee.


if as you say lennon was a protestant rangers manager no i dont think he would get the bombs and bullets but i still think he would get the abuse as i have said before that behaviour came from a very small moronic section of rangers fans and i take great offence to all rangers fan being classed the same as those morons. i dont class all celtic fans of being disrespectful poppy burning morrons just because a small group of them are.

Tony

So why would he get the abuse if he was a rangers manager/player what would be the reasons for this?

Gers fan hereI think the guys personality goes a long way to the problems as he seems to rub anyone who hears him speak up the wrong way. Whether he does it on purpose or not is another matter that only NL him self can answer that one. So basically what im saying is that Tony makes a fair point no matter what club he was at i still think he would get a lot of abuse and i personally don't think he'd have it any other way he was a scraper on the pitch why would it stop now.
Ps forgot to say his face is offensive to mirrors

Mon the Gers! {Ed007's Note - Who's face, Tony's? We kind of guessed that ;-)

I will have you know Ed im a handsome devil

Tony {Ed007's Note - That's not what Tim has said, he is only after your money ;-)

Ref the poster who wrote
So why would he get the abuse if he was a rangers manager/player what would be the reasons for this?

if you will read my post further down i have expressed my personal reasons why i dont like neil lennon and i think some of them not all will be universal amongst all the people who dont like Neil Lennon.

Tony

11 Oct 2011 13:10:22
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11 Oct 2011 13:00:18
Ed correct me if im wrong but do the winners and the runners up of the Spl go into the same qualifying round of the Champions League.

if this is the case then i think Administration is a def if we lose the tax case because even with a 10 point deduction i think the worst we could do is second


tony {Ed007's Note - Yeah Tony, both team enter at the 3rd qualifying stage next season. I said this ages ago, I don't actually know why some people seemed to think the winners of the league went straight into the group stages, qualification is set up well in advance.}

Ed, i am pretty sure this had been getting spouted in quite a few places, like sportsound etc at the start of the season as i thought this was the case for a while myself aswell. Was also in those wonderful daily tabloids too !! wonderful pieces of journalistic endeavour, wit and insight in these papers every day , i just cant get enough!! and also if memory serves correctly this was also spouted from the mighty Rangers PR dept.(and maybe celtic too at somepoint)

Evinguu

11 Oct 2011 11:36:41
Good Morning Ed, see nothing much has changed since I have been away still arguing about tax case and Tony still posting obscenities at posts that do not agree with him, I agree with other posters why come on here when you know we are not going to agree with you, then get angry when posts go against your own opinion?
Germinator you seem like a reasoned bear, of course we are going to talk about tax case, all your lot would do same if roles reversed. It's all the bears who are putting their heads in the sand, as if the tax case is not happening, also the court case with Bain and now probably McIntyre, then their dispute with other law firms, Whyte is spending what little money he has left on court cases and lawyers fees, hence these friendlies to raise much needed cash.
Germinator, are you honestly not worried that a so called billionaire cannot find cash to run your club?
Neil T {Ed007's Note - Morning Neil mate, I hope you are keeping well.}

I aint gonna worry till i know what im worying about as was said Neil no-one knows what is happening ... lol for all we know gers might win the case and sue HMRC for bad publicity and for trouble the caused (now i aint suggesting that this is gonna happen obv but to be honest is as plausible as any other point raised so far) none of us have a clue therefore we all speculate with what info we have heard or read.

Id say a gers team that is performing so well in the league given the possible trouble ahead is encouraging. Id also say that Whyte wil have a plan .... he must have and i really dont see himself totally makign himself pulic enemy no 1 without somesort or fallback plan if we lost the case .... (i can only imagine what the idiot/moronic fans out there would do if he screwed us).

The world has changed in recent years given the recession all people have been affected by it ..... In this day age no chairman in the world (with exception of Man City) is pumping major amounts of money into the club without a profit plan. (see Desmond!) Id say the fact he has made his money means he knows what he is doing with it a hell of a lot more than any person on this site does, therefore aint gonna be so ignorant as to try and assume so.

lol just a wee quick short answer for ye Neil !(can u tell the boss aint at her desk this morning !)

Germinator

Have a look here and see if you can see the self made billionaire at Rangers.


fourfourtwo.com/lists/thefootballrichlist201112thefull100.aspx

A can honestly say this has been one of the best posts on here in the last 2 weeks !

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

Germinator: you sound like a rangers fan that's in the know, but did u hear about the meeting last week at ibrox ? A guy a work with knows a somebody at ibrox & he said Craig Whites plan b was go into admin, take the 10 point hit say top of the league n have no tick ? Just a genuine question no trying to jobby stir or that?

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny {Ed007's Note - If he done that it would be like admitting full liability, the monies would still be owed and then the tax case would still need to be resolved. It all hinges on the tax case, Rangers can't just decide to go into administration, they would need to back up that move through their accounts. If their finances are that bad that they can justify administration right now it would paint a much darker picture than anyone has envisaged. Until the outcome of the tax case is known nobody knows Rangers over all financial situation, not even Mr Whyte.}

I agree with Germinator im not going to worry about what might happen or what might not happen whatever happens it wont be the end of Rangers we will just have to deal with it you Celtic fans have to deal with what is happening, strikers that dont score and defenders that cant defend a manager that although his heart is in the right place he is tactically naive


Tony

11 Oct 2011 11:12:04
Ed

ask Celtic fans what they remember of kyle Lafferty and yes the first thing they will say is Cheating B*****D got Charlie sent off but as i have said in the past i know live in the highlands and if you ask Inverness Caley fans what they remember of Neil Lennon they tell you Cheating B*****D got Juanjo sent off.

Lafferty done wrong got punished Lennon done wrong no repercussions.

this types of behaviour goes on in football and is inexcusable and everything should be done to stamp it out what really pi55es me of is comments from ppl like Bigirishmac thinking his beloved team is immune to it.

People Who Live in Glass Houses Shouldnt Throw Stones

Tony {Ed007's Note - I know what you mean Tony. As you know the conversation was about why I don't like Kylie as a player, you (and others) accepted my reasons as it is purely on a football basis, that is why I was comparing him with Hooper. It gets really annoying when Rangers fans need to twist things round and bring up stuff from years ago to try to justify more moaning about NL. Like I said, loads of Rangers fans seem to have a perverse fascination with NL and hate him more than they love their own club. Is there nothing they can think of that is recent or even relevant to the conversation? Nobody mentioned NL except for some of his legion of fans from Rangers, why are so many Rangers fans so interested in constantly talking about the CFC manager? Maybe they doth protest too much and it really is a case of 'If we can't have have him him nobody can', mention his name and a percentage of Rangers fans start to sound like the crowd waiting on Take That coming on stage. It is very strange and nobody can explain the hysteria. I wonder if they show their wives/partners the same amount of excitability? Lennonmania is still sweeping the country, is anyone old enough to remember when Elvis briefly visited Scotland?}

Gers fan hear I've got nothing against NL as a player/manage/person I just think he is just awful to look at {Ed007's Note - Being ugly isn't a crime, eh Tony? ;-)

Bet tony looks like he went dooking for
apples in a chip-pan

viewparkbhoy

Hey ed i never posted the above lol but come to mention it he is rather ugly lol

Tony {Ed007's Note - I know you didn't Tony. I knew you would be able to stick up for ugly people though ;-)

As players go..Kyle Lafferty couldn't tie Neil Lennon's shoe laces.. NL by far the better player.

Neil Lennon managed to play quite anonymously in England for years ! You never ever get anyone actually in the sport speak badly of him..the reaction he provokes in rangers fans is mob mentality..as in, 'its all right to wish him harm cause everyone else I know does'..this is sheer nonsense and shameful. He's the type of guy who may very well leave celtic if things don't work out but you can bet your very last shilling..he will most defenitely be back !!

The reason they hate Lennon is because he is a northern irish catholic that joined Celtic. When he played in england he was free to play for his country he joined celtic and that was it end off a quiet life he has been hated ever since.

Lennon strikes me as a bitter twisted man just an opinion . morris

11 Oct 2011 09:57:56
.... Just a bit of advice to the celtic men out there who seem to get their kicks outta assuming gers have already lost the tax case. Fire and shoot your mouths off all ye want, and a message to all the bears .. listen to them....

Now like everyone on this site (regardles of what they preach) i dont have a clue of the outome of this tax case. Dont know if we should win it , lose it .... a reasonable settlement fee etc anything. However what I do know is that if.. IF we lose the case and get deducted points after admin. Then celtic fans had better pray really pray that we dont still end up winning the league, cos that my friends will result in the biggest bragging rights in a LONG time and will not be forgotten. Same goes to all the bears out there dont just assume cos were told that everything will be rosie with this case be prepared for the worse cos then everything we get will be a bonus and dont shoot ur mouth off about the league being won etc..

If celtic fans wanna have a go regarding the tax case then lap it up the best thig we can do is make them eat their own words....done !

Germinator

Well said 2 things that are FACT we dont know how much if any money rangers will pay the taxman and we dont know who will win the league. We can put our opinions across but at the end of the day that is all they are opinions. In my opinion I think rangers will have some money to pay back not the £50 million everyone goes on about but a substantial amount will be paid to the taxman. Secondly Celtic will win the league. REMEMBER this is my OPINION.

What you and the majority of Rangers fans don't understand is that if and when they lose the Tax Case - it will not be just a case of administation and losing 10 pts - it will mean Liquidation i.e - Rangers no More . {Ed007's Note - No it won't. I would be absolutely astounded if Rangers went into liquidation and nobody has ever said that is a possibility.}

ED007 - Prepare to be astounded . If Rangers go into Admin , Whyte gets his money (guaranteed) - there will not be enough left for HMRC and other creditors . HMRC will not "deal" - result Liquidation . {Ed007's Note - Why not wait to see if they lose the tax case then go into administration and deal with it all at once. Wait, that does look like what Whyte is doing. Nobody anywhere has ever said liquidation is a possibility.}