08 Feb 2016 12:53:14
Hi Ed

Everyone man and their dog has an opinion on Celtic at the min and i an no exception, i have a question which i have formed my own opinion to but just interested in youra and the other contributors to this forum. Do you think the players have downed tools for RD?
The more i watch the tram the more it seems that they're just not putting in the required effort.
It looks to me as if they've gave up on him for whatever reason and he can't get them back, i'm not privvy to insider info as i'm sure a lot of folk aren't but there is something clearly wrong within the team/ training ground, just wondering what your thoughts were?

Cheers.

{Ed007's Note - We've got too many big time Charlies who think all they have to do is turn up. I'd back any manager against players not pulling their weight, it's unprofessional for a start and if pulling that jersey on (for stupid ££ a week) isn't enough to motivate someone then there's plenty of players out there to replace them.}

1.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 14:01:19
There is no question there are guys who are just going through the motions, Tierney and Griffiths are about the only two who seem to be giving their all, every time they play.
However I worry that he will over-use Tierney and put too much responsibility and mental fatigue on young shoulders?
Others like Ambrose and maybe Lustig do give the effort, but their actual performance and ability levels are lacking.
Guys like Commons, Johansen and Bitton have rarely been out of second gear and I actually doubt Bitton has a higher gear as he is so slow.
New arrivals from United in particular have found the step-up and expectation too much for them and I hope he gives a chance to the other new signings more often and freshen things up - before it's too late for him and our 'Double Hopes'.

2.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 13:40:51
Cheers Ed

I don't buy into the whole playing for the love of the club persona some put out, these guys are supposed to be pros. Like all of us they work to get paid.
If some aren't pulling there weight. Irrespective of whether they like the manager or not, professional pride must surely make them put the required effort in?!
I honestly only see this going 1 way and that is it will ultimately end in RD being removed from his job, but if he falls alone then shame on the club and players alike. They are all equally culpable for the situation we are in as a club.
A little perspective however is required. We are top of the league with a game in hand and have only lost 3 matches this season but the standard of football on show has been very poor at times.

3.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 13:54:00
ED007 did Boerighter leave the club or is he still picking up his wages for doing nothing.

{Ed007's Note - He's still there, Tim, it's baffling. His agent held talks with PL last summer and in January regarding a settlement to cancel his contract and both times they've came to nothing. Either Boerrigter and his agent are stubborn money grabbing sods or PL has really tried to lowball them with the pay-off.}

4.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 14:04:32
Ed I feel it's a similar situation with moyes and man utd. Overpaid players who think they know better and don't have to try or listen as they feel they have more pedigree.
All you need to do is look at Griffiths. He's taken on board what Rd is saying and knuckled down and reaping the rewards.

{Ed007's Note - Moyes was never the right man to take over from AF, the job was simply too big for him, Utd are a mess behind the scenes and it stems from AF neglecting the scouting, coaching and the academy.
For us it's a matter of breaking the bad habits the players who were already here have picked up. Players coming from other countries will ease into it with no problems because they've been doing it for years.}

5.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 14:46:20
I'm not saying it's right, but that's why I think that clubs like Celtic need experienced managers.
Players probably think they know it all, especially when they have won titles and cups, if a manager comes in with no experience and tries to change the habits of these players, then I think that a lot of players will just look at him and think, how can you tell me how to be successful.
I'm not saying that it's right, I just think that you need a very strong willed character to overcome this.

{Ed007's Note - RD was more experienced than NL was when he got the job.}

6.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 17:09:05
The thing is ED, Neil lennon had won things as a player, I still think that made him too inexperienced, I just think this is too big a job for a manager with little or no experience, but I think that's the type of manager this board wants as they can keep a tight grip on them.

{Ed007's Note - Plus they're cheaper, Gerry. That's THE most important part.}

7.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 18:37:19
Brian Clough at Leeds Utd is probably the classic example of player power and look what they lost.

8.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 18:48:02
Ed I am confused about this cheap option thing. I thought Roy Keane was offered the job first is that right. If so how can it be the cheap option as Keane would have cost a fortune.

{Ed007's Note - Keane himself said the contract offer 'failed to rock my boat'. Have a read at this:

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29525723

Or even better get out and buy his book!}

9.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 19:39:57
I read his book ed, but I can't believe for 1 minute that he wudnt have been offered a lot more than Ronny.

{Ed007's Note - Well whatever he was offered wasn't enough and we were obviously even trying to get Keane on the cheap. The article even sheds light on how long CFC have had that approach when he says he felt like he did negotiating to join as a player. And all the while PL has been taking more and more out of the club.

10.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 21:05:51
Rayman mate, Ed's right Keane was told by PL "take it or leave it" "it's yours if you want it" but no scope in negotiating mate

Keane turned it over to the EPL's football management association who were surprised at it there was also the fact his No.2 was already chosen (RD)

RK was underwhelmed about the whole process (y)

11.) 09 Feb 2016
09 Feb 2016 00:36:44
Why blame PL tho ed he is only an employee.

{Ed007's Note - If you don't understand PL's job I'm not wasting my time explaining it to you. Far too many supporters don't understand how the club is ran and I'm bored trying to explain it. It's obviously beyond a lot of your comprehensions.}