09 Nov 2014 18:45:03
As no one on here has mentioned it, I feel I have to express my disgust at the small, and it was a small, minority of Celtic fans who did not observe the minute's silence at Pittodrie today.
I want to make it clear these type of fans have no business following our great club if they continue to embarrass both themselves and Celtic Football Club.
I believe the club donated £10,000 via the Celtic Charity Foundation to Poppy Scotland and during the week listed the names of Celtic players who had died while srving their country.
The poppy issue every year seems to embroil Celtic Fc in some controversy and gives our enemies in the press an excuse to write their one sided stories against the club I love.
I say again, I wear a poppy on this day with pride and I always will.

{Ed007's Note - Have you never heard the saying 'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it' Tim? You're dictating what people should and shouldn't do and who is allowed to follow the club, the wars were fought against exactly what you're doing here, dictating to people what they can say and even think. If you want to pay your respects then go to one of the memorial services not a game of football.
And I want to make it clear it's not your place to say who is and isn't welcome to follow CFC, I think we've got enough people claiming to speak for the support without you joining the clique. Just because you're proud to wear a poppy doesn't mean others need to agree with you, you're as entitled to wear one as other people are entitled not to. The quicker they ban the whole thing from football the better, it's a sham and not worth the hassle it causes every year, I actually find it funny how some CFC fans get their knickers in a twist over the whole thing, some people just need something to feel offended over, and need blow it all out of proportion.}

1.) 09 Nov 2014
Well said ed 100% agree nothing to do with football!

2.) 09 Nov 2014
Edd not often I disagree with you if ever but this time I agree 100% with Tim Football has no place for that sort of thing what those emm people did in the minuets silence is wrong and if you think they were right then you are wrong to in my opinion disrespectful at the least to the millions that were killed for freedom nothing to do with what some people think Catholic v protestant that is so shallow

{Ed007's Note - Who's talking about Catholic v Protestant? If you think a football stadium is the right place for this kind of thing there's something wrong with you in the head. These statements from the club's official website contradict everything the poppy stands for today. Note the club didn't have poppies on their strip today, it shows what they think of the whole farce it's became in recent years.

'Celtic Football Club is a Scottish football club with proud Irish links. The primary business of Celtic is as a football club. It is run on a professional business basis with no political agenda. However, the Club has a wider role and the responsibility of being a major Scottish social institution promoting health, well-being and social integration.'

'We ensure that all members of society, irrespective of race, creed or colour, are given equal chance, in line with the club’s own values. The club is open to all and we actively campaign to promote social inclusion and to end discrimination on grounds of race and religious belief.'

'Celtic Football Club is for people who want to support a football club that strives for excellence in Scotland and in Europe, is proud of its history, supportive of its local community and seeks to support the following aims: "To maximise all opportunities to disassociate the Club from sectarianism and bigotry of any kind. To promote Celtic as a Club for all people, regardless of gender, age, religion, race or ability.'

'Celtic is a club for everyone who believes in football as a medium for healthy pleasure, entertainment and social integration. The Club always has been and always will simply aim to be the team of the people.'

We keep getting told politics has no place in football so why's today any different?

3.) 09 Nov 2014
I totally agree with you Tim
I did post earlier but it didn't seem to get through.
They have every right not to wear a poppy, or disagree with various wars, but surely they could keep quiet for 60 seconds, in respect for the innocent people who gave their lives in 2 world wars.
The vast majority of these were conscripts, and lots of them were relations of Celtic supporters.
Whether they have a right or not to disrupt the silence, it is surely just human decency to not shout at the dead

{Ed007's Note - It's a football match, go to a war memorial if you want to pay your respects, go to Mass and say a prayer, why does everything need to be done in such a pompous attention seeking manner? The whole thing has been hijacked and the true meaning (what Tim and you are talking about) was lost a long, long time ago. As a rule of thumb if Britain's First and confused Neo-Nazis (a poppy and a Nazi salute???) are forcing something on you there's usually something sinister behind it.}

4.) 09 Nov 2014
I watched the game on TV and apart from shouting at the start it was silent. As usual it is being blown out of all proportion by the usual suspects.

{Ed007's Note - And a lot of the usual suspects are in our own support.}

5.) 09 Nov 2014
09 Nov 2014 22:56:36
ED007 what a sad reply, all I was trying to say was that those fans that booed a minute's silence were wrong, just as you are wrong to make it a personal attack on myself as you have done a couple of times recently simply because I share a different opinion from you good self.
No where in your reply did I see you condemn what happened today, that speaks volumes for you sadly.
I stand myself my opinions and MY RIGHT to express it.
I am big enough to handle all the criticism I get on here but when you resort to silly name calling (in previous posts) and todays outburst you let yourself down.
debate with me not call me names.

{Ed007's Note - Tim if you're coming on giving it the BIG I AM and I think you're wrong I'm going to tell you. You're the one on here saying who should and shouldn't be following the club and trying to preach right and wrong, as long as it's right to you though. There's people out there that would say you shouldn't be following the club because you're wearing a poppy and they'll think they're right. I think both of you are wrong for the simple reason, none of it has anything do with football? It's a total crock of $hit to me and to see grown men acting the way they do about (from both sides of the coin) is laughable to me when there's far more important things going on in the world.
I've mellowed in my old age and I'm a peaceful type of guy who is actually against war - I don't see the need to celebrate it, it's all for show and it's nothing more meaningless twaddle. If you want to pay your respects go to an appropriate place and do it, forcing people at a football match to do something they don't want to do isn't going to make any difference, they'll still send more and more young lads to die over £ and oil. I'm also a great believer in free speech, something you have advocated yourself in regards to the Green Brigade and our support, why so different over this? You can't just pick and choose whether you are for free speech. So no I'm not condemning or condoning anybody, I'm saying everyone is allowed their opinion and allowed to express it, it's one of our human rights, it's one of the things soldiers died for.
I've got uncles on my mam's side who served in the Army, one of them was so messed up in the head when he got out he committed suicide only weeks after leaving his regiment, a couple of his fellow squaddies turned up for his funeral and that was it, after 22 years serving that was all the contact the family had with the Army apart from a letter a few weeks later telling his wife they were stopping paying her his pension thing leaving her with 3 young kids to try and bring up in the shithole Scotland was in the late 80s. I pray for him every week at Mass, not just once a year and I doubt he cares if I wear a poppy or not. If a government takes the decision to send young men to fight in illegal wars over £ and oil the least they should do is look after the families of those who die and help those that are injured in action, they shouldn't need to rely on charity.
Just like people can't force their opinion on you, Tim, you can't force yours on others
It's ok though, I've checked and poppies don't affect asthma so we're covered for that one.}

6.) 10 Nov 2014
I think your getting your poppies mixed up with the minutes silence, I don't agree with the poppy appeal, cause I think the goverment should look after ex servicemen without any need to resort to charity, but that's different with the minutes silence, and what's politics got to do with it?, are'nt the only ones being political the ones that break the silence cause they make it seem like you are supporting the goverment by being silent rather than remembering a fallen relation.

{Ed007's Note - The whole thing is a sham to get money out of you, I'm not getting anything mixed up, it's all just parts of the same machine, a money making machine. War in itself is political and if you can't see why remembering dead soldiers isn't a political statement I'm not going to explain it. Do you believe all this pro-British anti-Muslim feeling happened by accident? The point is that none of it has any place in a football ground. If people want to wear a poppy and a cilice to show their respect then that's up to them, if people don't then that's up to them as well, I have no problem with either. If your fallen relation means that much go and pay your respects at an appropriate place, a football ground isn't an appropriate place to do it IMO.
Some of the BS I've read today makes it look like today's kick-off time didn't suit people going to a memorial service or their local cenotaph(??). I'm not saying who's right or wrong, all I'm saying is that it has no place at a football match, we got by fine for years without it so why is it so important now? I can't remember anything like this happening in the 80's or 90's. yet all of a sudden we must do this and that like everyone else is doing or else. I prefer keeping personal and emotional stuff to myself, I don't need to stand in a football stadium to remember what's went before us, football is meant to be the working man's escape from the $hitty reality of life. I go to Mass to pray, it's more appropriate.}

7.) 10 Nov 2014
Silences themselves just promote the wrong idea, force everyone to join in or its ruined. would be like having a minutes applause and then getting angry when someone didn't join in. or forcing everyone to sing the national anthem at scotland games

im sure they are great at the right place mind, just not in events like football.

{Ed007's Note - That's far too sensible, you're getting a yellow card for that.}

8.) 10 Nov 2014
Ed I agree exactly with all you have posted re- poppy appeal and observance of silence . Soldiers fought 1914-18 and 1939-45 for freedom . Now people want to prevent people from having choice whether to observe a silence or not . I have my reasons for neither contributing or observing but I think that is my right.

{Ed007's Note - It's everybody's right, Chris, and nobody should be bullied into doing something they don't want to do just to appease the bleeding heart masses. Everyone has their own personal reasons for doing things, it's a modern thing to need to shout it from the rooftops what your reasons are. The only people you need to justify yourself to is yourself, your wife and your God, everybody else's opinion, including mine, is irrelevant.}

9.) 10 Nov 2014
How very apt we should mention freedom of speech but fail to mention remembering those who defeated Hilter and gave us that right.

Where and on what occassions the victims of war should be remembered is not the arguments here, nor was the actual wearing of a poppy, it was fools disrepsecting a minutes silence which is quite simply good manners.

They were an embarrassment to themselves, the rest of the support and the Club. If you had any respect at all for peace, you would not have considered this. It was the upmost disrespectful thing to do and up there with the crass display that went on at another Glasgow football club that many Celtic fans mention.

Have we also now fallen that low we consider making fun of an illness/disability banter?

What an utterly shameful thread this is and Tim - you would have been better not mentioning the embarrassment, it went without saying most decent fans and the ones who really do want to live peacefully were cringing.

10.) 10 Nov 2014
10 Nov 2014 09:14:34
Just wanted to raise a few points:

1. The second world war was not about stopping the Nazis, despite what the revisionists would have us believe. It was about Imperialism, either by acquiring new territories or fighting to retain the ones you already had. Remember, the concentration camps and ethnic cleansing did not come to light until after the war.

2. The poppy and remembrance day is no longer just about veterans from the world wars. It now includes veterans from all conflicts since world war 1. This paradigm shift was deliberate and was devised to try and stop people showing their anger towards veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan.

3. Just because it is state sponsored killing does not make it right. The British Armed Forces have killed hundreds of thousands innocent people across the globe and as a result have put us all at risk of terrorist attacks.

With that being said, I would like to ask people angry at our fans not respecting the minutes silence a simple question. If you had been beaten, tortured, intimidated or killed by the British Armed Forces, would you be bullied into showing respect when you go to watch your football team play? What to remember is that some of our fans lived through the troubles in Ireland and either them, their friends or family have been victims of the British Armed Forces. Even many of our Scottish fans have friends and family who have been victims of British atrocities.

11.) 10 Nov 2014
Its as if you didn't read the very first sentence ed wrote in his reply. No one is saying we agree with the people who choose not to remain silent. just that its not up to us to decide what they do

12.) 11 Nov 2014
If you had been beaten, tortured, intimidated or killed by the British Armed Forces, would you be bullied into showing respect when you go to watch your football team play - who bullied anyone? There was a choice here.

What would I do - I would not show up at a match in November, make a wee noise then go back to using their free education, healthcare, welfare state, social housing etc. So you can see why many have a issue with these 'principles'

Whoever made the noise are anonymous to most and the world just sees it as a 'Celtic fan' -thats how sh*tty their principles are.

13.) 11 Nov 2014
^^^^^^^ This post was brought to you by Mrs MDMA on behalf of UKIP. If you don't agree with the numerous illegal wars and invasions the British Army have done you shouldn't be using the NHS or our schools that's Scotland in 2014 for you. Mrs MDMA can be spotted down the Louden on a Friday night, gouching out her tree waving an Israeli flag and leading a staunch rendition of the Famine Song screeching about the Poles and Muslims "coming over here and taking our jobs, claiming benefits, using our nhs resources." I can see it in hospitals already "so You've got cancer have you, before we treat you we need to ask you a couple of questions, I'll get your name later but first the important stuff Q1. Do you wear a poppy? Q2. Were you born in this country? Q3. What school did you go to? Q4.. what did your family do in the war,any war will do as long as someones done something in the Falklands, Iraq Ireland or Afghansitan? What do you mean you're family came over here to escape a BritUSA illegal invasion of your country and don't give me this bull about the invaders bombing your village or killing your friends and family, where's your f&^5ing poppy! Sorry we can't help you then, don't they have doctors in your own country?" I'll tell you, Some folk on here have some neck on them lol

14.) 12 Nov 2014
Are you f&^5ing mental, oooffft!

The post is about. och never mind

Poppy obsessive AH