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29 Jan 2024 16:06:12
As far as my recollection goes, these are the players that Celtic have spent 6mil or more on.
Sutton
Hartson
Lennon
Jullien
Edouard
Jota
Carter-Vickers
The only debate could possibly be over Christopher Jullien however I thought he was great and he won us a cup whilst denying them one.
So either 100% success rate or 87% if you didn't rate Jullien.
Cue the happiest of happy clappers to tell me how much Larrson, Moravcek, Wanyama and Van Dyke cost.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make but Neil Lennon's transfer fee was £5.75m.}


1.) 29 Jan 2024 16:32:45
Ed, trying to make the point that if we spend decent money there is less of a risk.

{Ed007's Note - the Eyal Berkovic (£5.75m), Rafael Scheidt (£5m) and Albian Ajeti (£5m) deals says otherwise. Transfer fees are irrelevant as there are so many factors that can effect them and imo they are no way to judge how good a player is.
The wages we pay and the money we waste there are a bigger concern to me than the fees we pay for players.}


2.) 29 Jan 2024 17:06:18
I think you are saying that you get what you pay for, and it's something The Board seem to have either forgotten or abandoned?
The most recent of these was Jota and as well as signing a top class entertainer, look at the profit Celtic made on that deal.
The current squad has only maybe CCV and MOR that would make any big profit if sold with far too many that we can't even give away.
So the 'business model' seems to be failing below previous years and we are also not producing any 'gems' from our own academy.
Last summer's transfer window has really set us back a lot.

{Ed007's Note - How much profit do you think we would make on CCV? And if you get what you pay for why don't we fill the squad with players as good as MOR and who only cost £1.5m or even better on a free like Dembele was?}


3.) 29 Jan 2024 17:31:33
Afternoon All

I've got a Yoga Mat that I got from a charity shop and paid I think it was £1.50.
It's the most comfortable and professional 1 I've ever had.

I've got a Mat that I paid around £35 for and isn't that good.

Just saying.

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4.) 29 Jan 2024 17:38:32
The other model that seems to be effective is the loan to buy option. CCV, Jota, Edouard and now Bernardo to name a few. The flip side it’s easier to get rid of the players who aren’t good enough.

I’d be quite happy if we get 4 or 5 of those in over the course of the next 48hrs.


5.) 29 Jan 2024 17:38:35
What I have been saying Ed, its not what you pay, its about the player, their potential and how and if they fit into your team.

Flo cost 12 mil and he was useless but great at ine time and struggling before he went to them.

We need people out there who know players, know how to spot potential in decent young players who have been or are regularly playing.

Dembele was struggling after a good spell elsewhere and someone saw something in him and he came to us.

We clearly have no one at our club who can do that. It makes me think that is maybe why Ange turned to what he knew, the league he knew.

We maybe need a review of our recruiting and coaching as we are very poor at set pieces, attacking and defending.

{Ed007's Note - Our set-pieces at both ends of the pitch are atrocious.}


6.) 29 Jan 2024 18:15:50
Ed

Whipping in high bawz for Ter who’s being marked by CampseBhoy if we can get the cross pass the first man that is.

{Ed007's Note - ???


7.) 29 Jan 2024 18:57:29
I’m sure I had a post up about concerns of set pieces under Rodgers during his appointment. If you remember back to his last squad we were horrendous then too.

{Ed007's Note - The defensive side of things obviously needs work and arranging during training/tactics but when it comes to the offensive set-pieces surely the players can work on some things themselves, planning & plotting different things to gain the advantage?
Again though, for me, it comes down to that overall lack of physicality that runs throughout the squad like a stick of Blackpool rock.}


8.) 29 Jan 2024 20:04:02
We have been lightweight for far too long ED. Even 1 big solid CDM that we’ve all been shouting for to cause unrest in the box would change the whole scope of an offensive and defensive corners!

{Ed007's Note - ??


9.) 29 Jan 2024 20:31:02
£1.50 as a percentage of £35 is less than 5%.

I propose giving Brian G £1m which is 5% of what Mark Lawell has pi$$ed against a wall and let Brian sort out our recruitment.

We’ll maybe still be $hite but the players will be the utter bollocks at the downward dog and will have improved flexibility way daen the auld Pontius Pilates.

Brian. ??.

{Ed007's Note - So are we not blaming Daddy Lawwell now? I thought he was running the show..... I can't keep up!}


10.) 29 Jan 2024 21:07:00
And Jullien was a big fearty of a CB! Total waste of money!


11.) 29 Jan 2024 21:12:54
Ed007 is 100% right the wages we pay are a better indication of how we value our player . I asked last week what was our wages cap?
I got no answer which is typical of our Board who in their “ business secrecy” keep us in dark about everything. I don’t think they are fooling anyone as clubs and agents of players we want to buy know our limits.

I would hope our wages cap was not set in stone as it could be a real deal blocker . If we had a cap at for example £40k per week and if we were to go another £5K, and that would get us a striker we wanted, it might be real stupid to not go the extra £5K .
Relations between our Board and many fans are rarely good, I think that’s because us fans are kept in the dark about too many things . Board have a right to confidentiality, but surely we also have rights.


12.) 30 Jan 2024 07:38:35
The below average wages, Celtic are paying ALL of our 9 summer signings proves Celtic downsized.

The question needing answered,
Why did Celtic downsize?


13.) 31 Jan 2024 09:30:36
JFP

I appreciate your trust in me.

I could go wild in a charity shop or bargain basement with £1m ?

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19 Jan 2024 10:30:20
Bayern Leverkusen were in the relegation zone when Alonso was appointed as head coach/ Manager.
Previously they had been a club that developed and sold young talents such as Havertz to Chelski.
Alonso changed that and as well as buying Boniface 22 for 20mil he brought in 3 experienced internationals as free transfers, Grimaldo 27, Hofmann 30 and Xhaka 30.
They now sit top of the German league just above Bayern Munich. just saying.

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1.) 19 Jan 2024 13:15:20
I get what you’re saying mate but let’s look at what Bayer Leverkusen offer players compared to us. Grimaldo is on 99k a week, Xhaka is 68k and Hoffman is 66k before we get into the fact that the Bundesliga is a massive league with big teams and the lifestyle in Germany is completely different to Scotland.

I know you mean that we should do something similar but the potential pool of players we would be in for is players that lower championship and league one teams are competing for. Our best bet is to try to buy young promising players but also trying to find players like Juranovic and in the past Hinkel who are competing in European leagues but aren’t at clubs who can promote them internationally or offer CL or EL.


2.) 19 Jan 2024 13:57:55
BB
We could easily afford to pay 70k per week, 2 things need to happen 1/ trim the squad to a manageable level. 2/ remove the wage cap which incidentally doesn’t extend to the boardroom.
I would also consider scrapping our youth set up for all the good it does us.


3.) 19 Jan 2024 18:11:55
Things don’t look great at the moment, there aren’t many deals completed anywhere yet. It’s pointless getting all worked up at this stage with two weeks left we could have a good window or a bad one . The fact that when Ange came in we were in need of a total rebuild, meant that his first 2 windows were very busy as we needed players all over Park . Things safe more specific now which might mean that transfers are slower coming in . Everyone connected with transfers knows importance moving on up to 8/ 10 players to make training more manageable.


4.) 19 Jan 2024 18:22:57
This has to be the most ridiculous thread I've read on here! You are compairng Bayer Leverkusen to us??????? No wonder they couldn't pay the facepainter!


 

 

17 Jan 2024 11:16:44
Marseille have just paid 8mil for Faris Moumbagna, are they a bigger/ richer club than Celtic?

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1.) 17 Jan 2024 11:27:43
We are are big club in a small league mate, until something is done about tv payments it will always be that way.


2.) 17 Jan 2024 11:28:53
Celtic have a club value of circa €90m this is inclusive of brand exposure etc. Marseilles is €270m.


3.) 17 Jan 2024 11:50:57
More income from TV deals etc and still in Europe. I'd say they are big club. Not bigger though.


4.) 17 Jan 2024 12:06:24
More money that is all.


5.) 17 Jan 2024 12:07:35
Marseille are probably the biggest club in France and their fans are crazy. I would say they gave more pulling power than Celtic.


6.) 17 Jan 2024 12:30:52
Thanks for that info KenLikeEh, never really thought of France as part of the big 5 leagues, just the big 4 and PSG.


7.) 17 Jan 2024 12:39:04
The French Tv deal is worth between 15 to 20 times more than the woeful Scottish Tv deal each year.


8.) 17 Jan 2024 14:54:50
Is it our lamentable TV deal that is keeping SPL among the poorer leagues .
Thankfully we maybe able to improve our Deal . Scotland’s newest club have managed to unilaterally improve their deal with SKy and the assistance of Mr . Donaldson. No doubt our Board will be poring over the fine print of their agreement and by next season at latest we will be able to negotiate our deal.


9.) 17 Jan 2024 17:39:54
We have such a smalll population and the guys running the show in Scotland are terrible at there job.


10.) 17 Jan 2024 21:06:12
Like Ireland too many so called football fans in Scotland prefer to watch EPL so our followers are even smaller.


 

 

20 Dec 2023 13:32:52
What about Giorgos Giakoumakis as a striker option for January.
Currently plays for Atlantic United in the states, big strong athletic and a proven goal scorer.
I think he would do well in our league and suits Brendan's style better then Kyogo.

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1.) 20 Dec 2023 14:06:43
Giakoumakis was awarded the MLS player of the year and he has another 3 years left on his contract.


2.) 20 Dec 2023 14:25:28
I am sorry, I have to disagree with u, it isn’t necessary that the league doesn’t suit him, but the refs and VAR operators have a particular dislike to seeing anyone playing for Celtic standing up to opponents. As it was the last time free kick and a card against Celtic is the shout, every time he nears an opponent.
Refs and VAR operators in Scotland are trained different by Dallas and Crawford Allan, trained as true blues.


3.) 20 Dec 2023 14:56:19
Giakoumakis played Sevco 5 times and was undefeated with a 12-4 Aggregate scoreline.
He was booked 3 times in those games.

Giakoumakis was also booked 3 times in 5 games that John Beaton was his referee in Scotland.

Quite a few cautions, considering Giakoumakis seldom played the full 90 minutes whilst at Celtic.


4.) 20 Dec 2023 17:37:32
GG also could not get out our club quick enough. yes he's a good player but had absolutely no stomach for a fight to get his place in the team. I get it that folks will come on here and say Ange preferred kyogo and Ange drove him out. But fact is he was willing to go ANYWHERE to get out of celtic, hence why he's ended up in MLS backwater to see out his career in his late 20s. Not for me.


5.) 20 Dec 2023 17:43:04
Alexander lind.


6.) 20 Dec 2023 17:45:28
Always seemed that GG got a yellow within a few mins of coming on as a sub. Good player, would be great if we still had him.


7.) 20 Dec 2023 19:17:27
Today I've read that we are looking at GG and Jota for a return and reckon it's wishful thinking Tims or mischief making Currents?


8.) 20 Dec 2023 19:39:50
I would have them both back as players but they both left for money, not honours or our Jersey, money, so as people who want to play for this club, not for me.


9.) 20 Dec 2023 20:11:24
After the return of Pi$$ ye aff Pete and Rodgers and Lennon’s reappointment being being discussed if Brendan is plugged the return of GG and Jota would be positively welcomed.

‘As a dog returneth to its own vomit so a fool repeats his folly" (Proverbs 26:11)


10.) 20 Dec 2023 20:13:02
Maedainparadise. don't you see the guy managing us who done the same as gg and jota.


11.) 21 Dec 2023 08:06:58
But ange the messiah wouldn't play the big man.


12.) 21 Dec 2023 18:11:26
DRB, the last Manager did exactly the same but we don't hear a lot of complaints about him.

It may be because he left at end of season but GG left as that Manager didn't fancy him as our main striker and his ego needed massaging, so an American team offered him lots of cash and off he ran.

Jota went on holiday and a man offered his agent a big bag of cash, so he went to play in front of 5000 a week, or in Jotas case, 5001 as he watched from the bench.

What would prevent them from doing the same as soon as another club opened their wallet.

Neither was very loyal to the club.

Our current Manager, I agree, did the same but he brought us a lot of success, so deserved his shot, probably more than Ange as he was here for such a short time.

BR is back, he was the best choice at the time and deserves a chance to turn this around. But he needs to board to back him properly. They did it last time, so we are in an even better position to do so.

I want fresh faces in, players of quality with experience, not guys who want to be loved and paid over the odds.


13.) 21 Dec 2023 23:43:31
It is likely GG left because Ange didn’t give him the game time he felt he earned However another reason possibly for him leaving was the bias referees who wouldn’t let him off with any contact with defenders without waving yellow card
What annoyed GG most was defenders got away bad tackle after bad tackle without GG even getting a free.


 

 

16 Dec 2023 13:12:55
Buzz
Rumour on twitter at the time when Shay Given left was that Macari had his bookies debt paid off in exchange for letting him go.

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22 Mar 2024 17:59:50
JMHO but I think the current squad would beat the 2003 team, they are all in their late forties now.

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01 Mar 2024 15:30:33
Even if we win the double OAB3, I would still be apoplectic with the board and we need a plan to in a timely manner remove every single last one of them starting with the Lawwells.
On the same theme anyone hear how the Celtic trust meeting went in Graces last night, tried to attend but couldn’t get parked and gave up.

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02 Feb 2024 15:58:15
Great post JFP
We have just come out of the sh1tiest of sh1ty mcsh1ty transfer windows on top of the summer disaster and none of us are the least bit surprised.
Rodgers repeatedly stated we need 4 players of quantity in, meaning 4 first team starters, instead we got Kuhn who is maybe halfway there.
He repeatedly stated we don’t need any more projects, so we get another prospect that half of Norwich are calling one of the worst players to play for the club. (Not his fault and he will get my support whilst on the pitch)
Mark Lawwell as you have eloquently pointed out was nowhere near qualified for his role at the club. He has overseen the transfers of 17 players, of those 17 Palma is a first team regular that divides opinion, Nawroki gets game time because CCV is injured and Bernado because Hatate is injured.
That makes 1 out of 17 (6%) are a success.
Peter Lawwell whether he is involved in transfer business or a million miles away from it is now a toxic and divisive figure at our club and needs to go. I would estimate that now more than 50% of fans cannot stand him and I don’t see any harmony until he retires to enjoy the millions he has made from us.
It cannot be co-incidence that in his time away we signed CCV O’Riley Starfelt Jaka Hatate Kyogo Juranovic Maeda &Jota.
It cannot be co-incidence the since he walked in the front door our last European knock out win walked out the back.
Finally on Lawwell every time he turns up a the AGM and tells us how wonderful he is and the cracks a sh1tty inappropriate joke about The Rangers whilst laughing at us I feel like smacking his smug puss.
That brings me to the rest of the board, all of the been there far too long, modern successful businesses turn over their directors every 4 to 6 years to keep everyone fresh and keep new ideas coming through. As you say JFP some of ours have been there for over 20 and are starting to resemble the old board and we know how that ended.
But it is not just the board we have 3 Strachans 2 Lawwells and 2 Desmond’s involved in running parts of the club, that’s not just nepotism it’s just plain lazy.
So given the impasse between the board and the fans what do we do about it as they won’t listen or communicate.
Starve them of monies? We can’t not renew our season ticket us we want to go see the club we love and are fearful of losing our seat for years to come, my grandson has been on the waiting list for years without any joy.
We can’t stop buying merchandise or food as the allows the club across the city to close the gap.
So protest is the only thing we have left and I don’t mean the type of protest to get NL out with the chucking of barriers etc, but we need organised peaceful but loud protests outside of Celtic park on a regular basis, we have enough bloggers and X users with big followings to organise this.
We also need regular protests during the games perhaps ‘sack the board’ chants on the 72cd minute to signify the monies hoarded in the bank.
Anyway thanks for reading - rant over.

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29 Jan 2024 16:32:45
Ed, trying to make the point that if we spend decent money there is less of a risk.

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{Ed007's Note - the Eyal Berkovic (£5.75m), Rafael Scheidt (£5m) and Albian Ajeti (£5m) deals says otherwise. Transfer fees are irrelevant as there are so many factors that can effect them and imo they are no way to judge how good a player is.
The wages we pay and the money we waste there are a bigger concern to me than the fees we pay for players.}


 

 

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23 Jan 2024 21:14:53
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