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04 Feb 2025 13:30:14
Has KT actually signed a pre-contract? Normally these things are done with some official comms, pics etc. Nothing from either club and seen a few articles today saying he hasn't signed anything, only verbal agreement.
1.) 04 Feb 2025 15:28:07
We don't do a lot of precontracts so not too sure of the process/ etiquette, he's still an Arsenal player at the end of the day so can't exactly be working for celtic in any way right now (ie photo ops/ interviews/ etc) .
Part of me hopes we might have some sort of get out with it, I can see him playing for Arsenal at some point between now and May and geting injured and ruled out for a year.
{Ed007's Note - I'm 99% certain that pre-contracts need to be registered with the relevant FAs and UEFA/FIFA TMS, it's also worth noting I suppose that under English (UK?) law pre-contracts are not legally binding.}
2.) 04 Feb 2025 17:04:58
Are pre contract agreements pending a medical? Always thought medical had to be passed to validate the contracts.
{Ed007's Note - Spot on ????
3.) 04 Feb 2025 18:44:48
Ed, pre contracts are legally binding in England and Scotland. They may be subject to certain conditions and clauses but they are watertight.
The subtle difference is a letter of intent which whilst enforceable in England, it cannot be enforced in Scotland, as its viewed here as only an intention.
{Ed007's Note - www.blakemorgan.co.uk/the-enforceability-of-pre-contracts-in-football/
"The enforceability of a pre-contract will depend on the specific terms of the agreement. Pre-contracts are generally not binding under English law as they are usually marked ‘Subject to Contract’ and are simply a commitment by the parties to enter into a later contract. The difference between a pre-contract and a contract is that the parties to the pre-contract have not agreed the essential terms and so the pre-contract does not reflect the final agreement. However, if a pre-contract contains all the essential terms that have been agreed, then the pre-contract is effectively a final contract and is likely to be binding."
4.) 04 Feb 2025 19:31:30
Ed, my clear understanding is that these pre contracts are full contracts and come into force on the due date. Everything is detailed in them right down to weekly salary. This ties in with your good explanatory note.
No doubting, certain conditions need to be met, the obvious one is “pass medical. ”
Not wanting to be pedantic or drag this out but the original substantive point is has/ can KT / Arsenal get out of this? I feel the answer is no.
Can’t think of anyone who has?
{Ed007's Note - Yeah no need to get bogged down in it but just going by that article it's legally binding with FIFA but might not stand up in a law court. I found an article where former Pub League player Peter Odemwingie cancelled his pre-contract because he got a better offer.
My main question is though, has KT actually put pen to paper on the pre-contract or is it only a verbal agreement? Did Rodgers mention him today?}
5.) 05 Feb 2025 17:29:12
If and when Celtic do sign him and he completes a medical, his insurance will certainly exclude certain injuries and medical problems that KT has already had, they will be regarded as pre existing conditions . His medical is unlikely to state that these injuries have completely cleared up and are not likely to recur .
There won’t be insurance for repeat injuries.
03 Feb 2025 16:09:15
Rodgers and Lawell spotted at Glasgow Airport, flying to London.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 16:52:39
Doon to see big Jeffrey?
2.) 03 Feb 2025 17:03:56
Big Jeff Schlupp on the radar.
3.) 03 Feb 2025 18:13:38
Why is Lawell conducting transfer business? Is that even a chairman remit?
{Ed007's Note - Michael Nicholson has also travelled.}
4.) 03 Feb 2025 18:53:55
Ah the silent one ?.
5.) 03 Feb 2025 19:14:48
Were did you see this? Can’t see it this late in the day tbh. Not replacing Kyogo is a terrible decision. Couple injuries away from crisis up top .
6.) 03 Feb 2025 19:37:32
I hope they find a striker down there.
02 Feb 2025 21:42:26
Jota done more in 20 mins than Yang has done in 18 months. Ran at players, inside, outside, direct, shots at goal, hit the bye line twice! Yang should have been loaned out or shown the door, he has something but unfortunately a bit like MJ, not in Celtic shirt. If we want to keep progressing we need to replace these type of players as soon as we know they ain't going to make it, BR looks like he is doing that but it might take time.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 09:27:14
We need yang for cover. At the moment we have:
Kuhn
Maeda
Jota
Yang
Forrest
In his defence, I think he has improved and works hard for the team. I just think he needs a goal and fans to get behind him to give his confidence a boost.
2.) 03 Feb 2025 10:27:49
He has been with us since July 23. He hasn't improved from I've seen, better with McCowan as wide man for cover. He will be gone by the summer if not today.
3.) 03 Feb 2025 10:55:01
Yang and Forrest for different reasons, bring nothing to the party.
Yang needs a loan move and Forrest, as one of the higher earners (£19K+ per week) , well, that money could be better spent IMO.
Maeda, Kuhn and Jota are all interchangable, all starters on any given day and can all change games.
We just need one more quality winger to make it four.
☘️ ? ☘️.
4.) 03 Feb 2025 15:27:08
Think that's a bit harsh on forest give him a contract on 5k a week he'd a modern day legend
Ps never thought I'd say that lol.
28 Jan 2025 08:36:15
See some stories we are after Evan Ferguson on loan. Only seen snippets on TV but he is clearly a player. Of all the clubs apparently linked none offer CL football and a realistic chance to win trophies other than us. That and the fact he is a big Hoops fan might have an influence. Saying that I've no real idea if he is better than what we have in Idah/ Maeda. Personally I think a loan deal is a better option for us now than rushing to sign someone and getting it wrong and/ or paying over the odds.
1.) 28 Jan 2025 10:47:14
We won't rush to sign someone that's for sure we've known for 6 months Kyogo wanted to leave apparently, Ferguson started off great and fell away not sure if down to injuries feel he similar to Idah in many ways, dtill and hope Idah will come good.
2.) 28 Jan 2025 16:30:46
You must be watching a different Evan Fergusson from me! From what I've seen the guy is hopeless, appears to have all the attributes and abilities of Oliver Burke.
3.) 28 Jan 2025 18:46:55
Looks like we are out of the running, SSN reporting that Brighton wanting a permanent deal and not a loan and German team are in for him.
13 Jan 2025 11:32:54
As we look likely to ship out Palma and are in need of back up wingers why not go for Martin Boyle? Out of contract in summer, proven in our League, looking back to his best after injuries etc? Yes folk will say he won't improve the team but we need cover and he is imo better than Palma and Yang, similar to JF. Short term 12-18 month deal. Seen articles asking if Hibs should offer him new deal so timing seems right.
1.) 13 Jan 2025 11:51:12
No no and no again. Palma is a better player than Boyle will ever be.
2.) 13 Jan 2025 12:02:02
Really Dc, in what world does Palma ever score a hat trick against Sevco? In fact even score?
3.) 13 Jan 2025 12:03:45
Is Boyle mot 32.
4.) 13 Jan 2025 16:00:47
Lads cmon! Martin Boyle u can’t be serious ?.
I’d go for Duk before Martin Boyle.
5.) 13 Jan 2025 16:05:44
Sometimes I really wander about people, someone touted Nicola katic last week on this site, I’m flabbergasted at the thought any of our fans could accept either of these for our team . It must be a joke, I fully accept Celtic don’t shop in particular windows for players but, come on.
6.) 13 Jan 2025 17:00:28
Not duk for me.
7.) 13 Jan 2025 17:10:17
Chinks this isn't fifa kid. Your saying because he scored a hattrick against sevco means he's a better player? So you obviously rate him more than khun and maeda? Because I don't ever remember them scoring hattricks against sevco. I honestly can't believe that is your response. Maybe when you grow up and start understanding the game more you will see how much nonsense that is.
8.) 13 Jan 2025 19:02:07
Me either Mally I’d have neither!
Not Celtic class. I would like to see us go in for Watson or Lennon Miller though.
9.) 13 Jan 2025 20:16:01
He has no resell value and up until recently had been very poor.
10.) 13 Jan 2025 20:18:21
We should be looking at players like jota and isaksen.
11.) 13 Jan 2025 20:49:49
Looks like the Palma deal has stalled due to Fifa imposing a transfer embargo on the Spanish team ?♂️.
12.) 13 Jan 2025 20:57:12
Only 2 players in Scotland I'd be remotely interested in are Igamane and Cerny, Boyle is nowhere near good enough for Celtic.
13.) 14 Jan 2025 05:34:40
Igamane certainly looks real deal, it will never Happen but just imagine.
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08 Feb 2025 22:14:13
Maeda is obviously a totally different player to Kyogo and up until 6 months ago it was a mystery to most of us why Japan picked him up front ahead of Kyogo. I now know, he is extremely effective through the middle.
07 Feb 2025 09:33:45
Interesting article I read comparing Kvistgaarden to Kenny. It would be interesting to know what sort of level the Danish league is and if indeed Kenny would score in that company. He scored plenty in the Conference League and given a chance could turn out to be a great back-up.
1.) 07 Feb 2025 10:35:44
Did he not also score in the champions league qualifiers?
2.) 07 Feb 2025 12:51:50
Kenny is a more natural finisher than Idah.
06 Feb 2025 07:34:25
The way Jota has started is remarkable considering how little he has played in 18 months. I think we will be getting a better player than when he left. Positive dilemma for BR as to best front 3. Whilst Idah is doing great I can't see past, Jota, Maeda and Khun. All are playing so well it would be hard to leave any of them out. Meada looks like he can score 2 or 3 every game at the moment. BR probably starts Idah though so Khun or Jota benched.
1.) 06 Feb 2025 08:40:47
Why would you play a winger up top when we have a 9m striker that's scoring goals chinks? Sorry mate but not for me. Id be all trying all 3 of them with dropping a midfielder and trying one of them as an AM, but not playing as an out and out CF.
I like the thought of all 3 of them rotating and keeping them fresh and hungry.
2.) 06 Feb 2025 09:08:26
The quality of the bench is what helps us maintain the standard for the full 90. Ange may be gone, but, “we never stop”.
3.) 06 Feb 2025 09:45:54
We want to win every game and challenge for every trophy we enter so a strong pool of quality players is essential. We have the best squad in the country and ALL of them will play a part and I think the way we play sixteen of them will feature every game and ther is sure to be rotation depending on injuries, opponents and so many fixtures.
4.) 06 Feb 2025 09:54:11
DT, I don't disagree with the Idah argument. I love the big man and with a run he will score a barrowload of goals. For anyone looking in it would be hard to pick between Maeda and Idah as to who is the most accomplished CF. Maeda has been MOM last 2 performances and goals scored from central/ striker positions. Plus the sevvies can't handle him. Imagine him buzzing around Balogan and Soutter! Great dilemma to have and any 3 from 4 will do.
5.) 06 Feb 2025 17:33:50
It’s brilliant to have four really top class players for the three front positions, there is no better Manager than BR to rotate these players keeping them in peak condition, injury free and happy with their roles.
05 Feb 2025 22:23:21
Wee Daizen definitely got Larssons book for Christmas. Engles is a fabulous footballer, he is going to be huge for us. Also like the look of Kenny, bit raw but will score goals and reminds me of Braatback.
1.) 05 Feb 2025 23:33:26
I hope he’s like Brattbakk because Harold was always in the right place to score and miss loads of chances for Celtic.
I seen Bend It Like Brattbakk a few years ago and it was brilliant.
04 Feb 2025 16:55:52
Every person (manager included) has a right to be agreived at our lack of ambition. Our board have small town mentality and are content to be ahead of our rivals and pick up CL money year on year. When people say this player or that player is out of our budget what's that based on? Certainly not our balance sheet or market values. We were paying £6m -£7m for players almost 25 years ago. Fees have ramped up about 4 fold since then so fees of £15m should not be unthinkable for us. Large fees don't guarantee success but we have to show genuine ambition to make a real impact in the CL. Smaller teams (stature and budget) have managed this over the years. We have stood still, lose top players, sign a few like for like replacements etc. Had we signed a quality CF and robust midfielder this window with Jota and KT coming it would have been a real sign we would throw the dice and go for it. Instead we tread water, face the prospect of winning the S Cup with a weaker team than we had 4 weeks ago. Kyogo going wasn't ideal but I think everyone was of the view it would be okay as surely we would not be daft enough to sell our top scorer and No1 striker with no robust back up plan. Winning the league year on year is fantastic but we should be looking beyond that.
1.) 04 Feb 2025 18:03:54
Tierney and Jota were here before when we failed to make an impact in the CL.
2.) 04 Feb 2025 19:10:14
There were fans less than 2 weeks ago complaining that we over paid for Idah . BR who knows more about how we didn’t get a striker in is far more conciliatory than those of us who don’t know any details.
3.) 05 Feb 2025 10:12:20
Why pay 14 million for a player worth 10 at most. It makes absolutely no sense. We complained that we paid 9 million for Idah when we should have paid 6. We can't gave it both ways.
Kvistgaarden may or may not come in during the summer but by then, there will potentially be other players available for around 10 million who may fit the bill better, and he may have more suitors.
We may find another Kyogo for 5 million, who knows but what we have will have to see us through till summer, so it's pointless going wound up about hat could have been.
4.) 05 Feb 2025 14:01:04
That ‘s a problem, Maedainparadise A player is worth whatever buying club is prepared to pay . Obviously Brondby didn’t want to sell Kvistgaarden this window and he wasn’t breaking down doors wanting to leave . So it was a sellers market . Even if we agreed £14 m they would have conditions that would make it almost impossible for us to agree .
Our fading star Kyogo was priced at £10 m in the believe nobody would match that for a 30 yr old who form had dropped seriously, but Rennes did, if it was their manager who insisted on them buying, did Board members watch Kyogo in training and sacked him for authorising exorbitant price .
Kyogo didn’t exactly please Rennes with a record least touches of 7 in over 60mins.
03 Feb 2025 10:27:49
He has been with us since July 23. He hasn't improved from I've seen, better with McCowan as wide man for cover. He will be gone by the summer if not today.
13 Jan 2025 12:02:02
Really Dc, in what world does Palma ever score a hat trick against Sevco? In fact even score?
02 Aug 2024 15:31:06
Was decent anytime I watched him. Apparently available for £2m, which is worth a punt I'd say.
18 Jan 2024 22:50:20
Hi is a Player.
29 Sep 2023 18:52:58
Fantastic news, when he plays we play. Best midfielder in the country when he is on it. I think this will kick start his season. HH.
06 Feb 2025 09:54:11
DT, I don't disagree with the Idah argument. I love the big man and with a run he will score a barrowload of goals. For anyone looking in it would be hard to pick between Maeda and Idah as to who is the most accomplished CF. Maeda has been MOM last 2 performances and goals scored from central/ striker positions. Plus the sevvies can't handle him. Imagine him buzzing around Balogan and Soutter! Great dilemma to have and any 3 from 4 will do.
04 Feb 2025 07:08:20
An AM that will contribute 25/ 30 is a big ask. Be lucky if we get that from Idah. Otherwise agree.
03 Feb 2025 21:36:31
If we had put a bid in early for the value needed he would have come to us. Dragged our heals and low balled as per. One that might haunt us as he was def the top target. Manager even spoke yesterday to say we might need to wait until summer to get who we want . Didn't say it was him but seems likely.
02 Feb 2025 20:31:59
I hope that BR bites the bullet and plays a bit more cautiously. Wingers are great if you have the ball, against Bayern we will be chasing and they will have 60-70% possession most likely. 4-5-1 with Bernardo and McCowan added to the usual 3. Might even put Maeda up front and ask him to play as a left winger, CF and right winger. ?.
02 Feb 2025 16:59:10
I was nearly spot on!