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04 Feb 2025 13:30:14
Has KT actually signed a pre-contract? Normally these things are done with some official comms, pics etc. Nothing from either club and seen a few articles today saying he hasn't signed anything, only verbal agreement.
1.) 04 Feb 2025 15:28:07
We don't do a lot of precontracts so not too sure of the process/ etiquette, he's still an Arsenal player at the end of the day so can't exactly be working for celtic in any way right now (ie photo ops/ interviews/ etc) .
Part of me hopes we might have some sort of get out with it, I can see him playing for Arsenal at some point between now and May and geting injured and ruled out for a year.
{Ed007's Note - I'm 99% certain that pre-contracts need to be registered with the relevant FAs and UEFA/FIFA TMS, it's also worth noting I suppose that under English (UK?) law pre-contracts are not legally binding.}
2.) 04 Feb 2025 17:04:58
Are pre contract agreements pending a medical? Always thought medical had to be passed to validate the contracts.
{Ed007's Note - Spot on ????
3.) 04 Feb 2025 18:44:48
Ed, pre contracts are legally binding in England and Scotland. They may be subject to certain conditions and clauses but they are watertight.
The subtle difference is a letter of intent which whilst enforceable in England, it cannot be enforced in Scotland, as its viewed here as only an intention.
{Ed007's Note - www.blakemorgan.co.uk/the-enforceability-of-pre-contracts-in-football/
"The enforceability of a pre-contract will depend on the specific terms of the agreement. Pre-contracts are generally not binding under English law as they are usually marked ‘Subject to Contract’ and are simply a commitment by the parties to enter into a later contract. The difference between a pre-contract and a contract is that the parties to the pre-contract have not agreed the essential terms and so the pre-contract does not reflect the final agreement. However, if a pre-contract contains all the essential terms that have been agreed, then the pre-contract is effectively a final contract and is likely to be binding."
4.) 04 Feb 2025 19:31:30
Ed, my clear understanding is that these pre contracts are full contracts and come into force on the due date. Everything is detailed in them right down to weekly salary. This ties in with your good explanatory note.
No doubting, certain conditions need to be met, the obvious one is “pass medical. ”
Not wanting to be pedantic or drag this out but the original substantive point is has/ can KT / Arsenal get out of this? I feel the answer is no.
Can’t think of anyone who has?
{Ed007's Note - Yeah no need to get bogged down in it but just going by that article it's legally binding with FIFA but might not stand up in a law court. I found an article where former Pub League player Peter Odemwingie cancelled his pre-contract because he got a better offer.
My main question is though, has KT actually put pen to paper on the pre-contract or is it only a verbal agreement? Did Rodgers mention him today?}
5.) 05 Feb 2025 17:29:12
If and when Celtic do sign him and he completes a medical, his insurance will certainly exclude certain injuries and medical problems that KT has already had, they will be regarded as pre existing conditions . His medical is unlikely to state that these injuries have completely cleared up and are not likely to recur .
There won’t be insurance for repeat injuries.
03 Feb 2025 16:09:15
Rodgers and Lawell spotted at Glasgow Airport, flying to London.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 16:52:39
Doon to see big Jeffrey?
2.) 03 Feb 2025 17:03:56
Big Jeff Schlupp on the radar.
3.) 03 Feb 2025 18:13:38
Why is Lawell conducting transfer business? Is that even a chairman remit?
{Ed007's Note - Michael Nicholson has also travelled.}
4.) 03 Feb 2025 18:53:55
Ah the silent one ?.
5.) 03 Feb 2025 19:14:48
Were did you see this? Can’t see it this late in the day tbh. Not replacing Kyogo is a terrible decision. Couple injuries away from crisis up top .
6.) 03 Feb 2025 19:37:32
I hope they find a striker down there.
02 Feb 2025 21:42:26
Jota done more in 20 mins than Yang has done in 18 months. Ran at players, inside, outside, direct, shots at goal, hit the bye line twice! Yang should have been loaned out or shown the door, he has something but unfortunately a bit like MJ, not in Celtic shirt. If we want to keep progressing we need to replace these type of players as soon as we know they ain't going to make it, BR looks like he is doing that but it might take time.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 09:27:14
We need yang for cover. At the moment we have:
Kuhn
Maeda
Jota
Yang
Forrest
In his defence, I think he has improved and works hard for the team. I just think he needs a goal and fans to get behind him to give his confidence a boost.
2.) 03 Feb 2025 10:27:49
He has been with us since July 23. He hasn't improved from I've seen, better with McCowan as wide man for cover. He will be gone by the summer if not today.
3.) 03 Feb 2025 10:55:01
Yang and Forrest for different reasons, bring nothing to the party.
Yang needs a loan move and Forrest, as one of the higher earners (£19K+ per week) , well, that money could be better spent IMO.
Maeda, Kuhn and Jota are all interchangable, all starters on any given day and can all change games.
We just need one more quality winger to make it four.
☘️ ? ☘️.
4.) 03 Feb 2025 15:27:08
Think that's a bit harsh on forest give him a contract on 5k a week he'd a modern day legend
Ps never thought I'd say that lol.
28 Jan 2025 08:36:15
See some stories we are after Evan Ferguson on loan. Only seen snippets on TV but he is clearly a player. Of all the clubs apparently linked none offer CL football and a realistic chance to win trophies other than us. That and the fact he is a big Hoops fan might have an influence. Saying that I've no real idea if he is better than what we have in Idah/ Maeda. Personally I think a loan deal is a better option for us now than rushing to sign someone and getting it wrong and/ or paying over the odds.
1.) 28 Jan 2025 10:47:14
We won't rush to sign someone that's for sure we've known for 6 months Kyogo wanted to leave apparently, Ferguson started off great and fell away not sure if down to injuries feel he similar to Idah in many ways, dtill and hope Idah will come good.
2.) 28 Jan 2025 16:30:46
You must be watching a different Evan Fergusson from me! From what I've seen the guy is hopeless, appears to have all the attributes and abilities of Oliver Burke.
3.) 28 Jan 2025 18:46:55
Looks like we are out of the running, SSN reporting that Brighton wanting a permanent deal and not a loan and German team are in for him.
13 Jan 2025 11:32:54
As we look likely to ship out Palma and are in need of back up wingers why not go for Martin Boyle? Out of contract in summer, proven in our League, looking back to his best after injuries etc? Yes folk will say he won't improve the team but we need cover and he is imo better than Palma and Yang, similar to JF. Short term 12-18 month deal. Seen articles asking if Hibs should offer him new deal so timing seems right.
1.) 13 Jan 2025 11:51:12
No no and no again. Palma is a better player than Boyle will ever be.
2.) 13 Jan 2025 12:02:02
Really Dc, in what world does Palma ever score a hat trick against Sevco? In fact even score?
3.) 13 Jan 2025 12:03:45
Is Boyle mot 32.
4.) 13 Jan 2025 16:00:47
Lads cmon! Martin Boyle u can’t be serious ?.
I’d go for Duk before Martin Boyle.
5.) 13 Jan 2025 16:05:44
Sometimes I really wander about people, someone touted Nicola katic last week on this site, I’m flabbergasted at the thought any of our fans could accept either of these for our team . It must be a joke, I fully accept Celtic don’t shop in particular windows for players but, come on.
6.) 13 Jan 2025 17:00:28
Not duk for me.
7.) 13 Jan 2025 17:10:17
Chinks this isn't fifa kid. Your saying because he scored a hattrick against sevco means he's a better player? So you obviously rate him more than khun and maeda? Because I don't ever remember them scoring hattricks against sevco. I honestly can't believe that is your response. Maybe when you grow up and start understanding the game more you will see how much nonsense that is.
8.) 13 Jan 2025 19:02:07
Me either Mally I’d have neither!
Not Celtic class. I would like to see us go in for Watson or Lennon Miller though.
9.) 13 Jan 2025 20:16:01
He has no resell value and up until recently had been very poor.
10.) 13 Jan 2025 20:18:21
We should be looking at players like jota and isaksen.
11.) 13 Jan 2025 20:49:49
Looks like the Palma deal has stalled due to Fifa imposing a transfer embargo on the Spanish team ?♂️.
12.) 13 Jan 2025 20:57:12
Only 2 players in Scotland I'd be remotely interested in are Igamane and Cerny, Boyle is nowhere near good enough for Celtic.
13.) 14 Jan 2025 05:34:40
Igamane certainly looks real deal, it will never Happen but just imagine.
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31 May 2025 09:49:56
With Newco thinking (deluded) they will spend spend spend now is the time for our board to be truly ambitious. Spending big doesn't guarantee anything (Trusty, Idah, Lager recent examples of performance not matching outlay) but we need an injection of quality, pace and dig across the team. We are soft and can get bullied far too easily. Don't know how many players we need, but with Jota and Hatate out/ playing catch-up probably around 5 players. A young and pacey CF is a must. Should be an interesting cpl of months and will tell the manager, and us, if the board are going to support him.
1.) 31 May 2025 11:33:10
Am a big fan of Idah and I am happy with how his season has went, Trusty is a no for me not fast or hard enough for me, my priority is a hard as nails Cb who is commanding who a don’t know ?♂️.
2.) 31 May 2025 13:42:48
Idah won us the League and Sottish Cup with his goals!
3.) 31 May 2025 14:37:47
Nobody else playing. that's some achievement.
4.) 31 May 2025 14:52:55
The Board hasn’t got the final say as to whom we sign . BR has managed to get himself the final say whether we sign a particular player or not .
World wide football haven’t an agreement on whether manager has final say or whether it should be Director of football or Head of Football Organisation .
There is an argument that Manager lives or dies by results on pitch, hence he should have final say as players either brings him success or failure . . The other argument is that manager’s come and go and so cannot be trusted to build for long term . Director of Football is normally long term and thus is likely to plan long term. The problem we have is if a Director of Football is thought to do very well he. will be head hunted by the very cash rich EPL teams.
5.) 31 May 2025 15:25:21
@ Troy Colour : I think your in the minority on Idah - £9m he needs to producing a lot more than he has.
We need 20 goals / assists a season from our CF.
I think this will be a defining season for him and if he’s not scored a few by the Jan window he could be sold.
{Ed007's Note - I think you're in the minority on Idah, 20 goals a season from a guy who was our back up is fine by most people who aren't hung up on a fee, I don't want my CF having any assists, I want a CF that'll put the ball in the net, that's his job. By this time next year Adam Idah will have scored more than 50 goals for Celtic.}
How much do you think a striker that can score 20 goals & give you 20 assists as well would cost? Only 2 players in Europe had more than 20 assists in the season just finished, Maxime Lestienne & Xherdan Shaqiri and both of them are wingers.}
6.) 31 May 2025 19:45:40
The big man just needs better service, it was non existent in the cup final with Rodgers boring backwards, sideways, backwards, sideways dross, get the ball into the box and big Idah will score a barrow load of goals for us, great finisher too, which will improve more with decent game time.
{Ed007's Note - I have consistently said that Idah was a better out & out striker than Kyogo, he has that natural poachers ability to sniff out and get on the end of chances like your LG's or Gary Hooper, the sharpness in front of goal will come with more consistent game time & confidence but also as you say he needs proper service, get balls into the box, get wingers hitting the byline and crossing it into the danger area and let Idah attacj the ball in and around the goal. The lad's a unit so let's use that instead of getting out to the wing turning back or inside and the ball ending up back with CCV.
Far too many fans are quite happy to run players down and no matter what happens nothing will change their mind for fear of admitting they're wrong, because of their price tags Idah & Engels will always have their detractors whereas Trusty gets a bye so they can slag Liam Scales...
Look at our recruitment, good, bad or indifferent - look at the money and success Celtic have had in the transfer market and not once have we found a left back better than Greg Taylor...
7.) 31 May 2025 20:54:26
The squad definitely needs some upgrading. And hearing Rodgers comments that some of our best players may be sold in the summer, then even more work will be needed from our slow moving board. I'd say a new LCB, CAM, RW and CF is required. Also need cover for KT at LB. Will Rodgers rely on Forrest or Yang to provide cover before Jota returns after a lengthy injury? Personally I'd rather we loaned Yang out for a season for regular games as there is a player there. On some of the players leaving, who could he be referring too?
8.) 31 May 2025 21:17:13
I think it's imperative we get Taylor on a new deal.
9.) 31 May 2025 21:24:37
Idah, is a good old fashioned, hard working £2million striker.
10.) 31 May 2025 21:34:55
@troy colour good shout. The boy is brutal. Folk saying he won us the Scottish Cup. Definitely didn't win us it this season. Was that bad he didn't even feature in the highlight package ???.
11.) 01 Jun 2025 14:25:56
If Taylor really wants to go, Celtic have to let him go . I have been proud to support Taylor since he joined us, but no man is irreplaceable and we shouldn’t keep Taylor against his wishes. Is he not confident that he will get enough game time with Tierney back, then why shoul we have confidence. At the moment we have a striker and a half. Idah is full time striker in that is his position all the time he plays.
Maeda is half a striker as he is equally adept and is certainly needed playing as a winger . Is it co - incidental that out two ROI players, Idah and Scales are the most criticised player at Celtic Pk just now. I cannot argue with Aindoh’s valuation of Idah’s ability, as I always thought that a club who isn't short of a couple of £’s shouldn’t shy away from price of a player who they want, especially if he can contribute £20 goals playing less than half time available . The valuation of a player is best left to those who are professional and have experience and know how.
12.) 01 Jun 2025 21:39:53
I really feel Roger’s doesn’t play to a striker’s capabilities, yes our wingers and midfielders make up with plenty of goals but our style really leaves a striker isolated at times, this I think feeds into the anti idah things we hear, we saw just before kyogo left that when used wide he seemed more in game and for some a better player, idah for me needs a better balance of our overlapping defenders getting to by line and delivering a good cross over the wide players constantly coming inside and the ball switching across pitch 20 yards from goal, in kt (when fit don’t shoot me Ed for mentioning him ) we know we have one of the best crossers in the game, hopefully idah or a new cf can get on end of some of these .
26 May 2025 23:03:49
Hearing CCV saying he needs total rest. In hindsight ALL our players BR wanted to start in Cup final should have been rested when league was won. Maeda looked done in the final as did a few others.
1.) 27 May 2025 09:21:50
In hindsight, the team that humped Aberdeen at Pittodrie might have been the answer, but the supporters would have went raj bongo if that team had lost. IMO, we have been running on empty since April with a few exceptions. Over the season the players gave everything.
2.) 27 May 2025 11:09:42
We had plenty of games after league was won to rest players . give run outs to squad players try out youths before the final . but the manager refused to do it.
3.) 27 May 2025 12:08:32
Why didn't we start with the same team that thumped them 5-1?
4.) 27 May 2025 13:15:01
Celtic mad . You are 100% correct .
Celtic have been running on empty, maybe a quibble since when, certainly sometime 6 to 10 weeks ago.
5.) 27 May 2025 13:48:49
Deep river Bhoy2 Resting all players from league was won, may have resulted in us losing Cup Final by 3-4 goals and two or three rested players suffering bad hamstring injuries, resulting in them out for rest of year . But nobody knows what can happen in the future as far as football is concerned .
Either BR is good enough and experienced enough to decide how to prepare for the games ahead .
This season team had too many game pre new year . We had great wining style easy on the eye . Over the last while we had too many matches lacking our pressure, quick passing and intelligent running off ball . Hopefully we can have something sorted out for next season.
25 May 2025 10:07:09
Possession is a worthless stat. Most of our possession was passive and Scales probably had more touches of the ball than any other player. Too often when a pass was on players took the easy option and went backwards or sideways. Hatate is the only player who can do this and without him we are a fairly average team. Khun can go anytime he likes, no fight and why he started over Forrest is truly baffling. Aberdeen clearly had a game plan and penalty practice was part of it whereas 3 of our penalties were terrible.
1.) 25 May 2025 11:08:08
Celtic play against packed, well drilled defenses almost every week and when we play (like yesterday) without creativity or flair in attack, opponents gain in confidence and belief.
Another issue with me is the lack of a decent free kick taker and with the amount of corners we earn, we should capitalize more.
Overall, we had a great season, although there are areas and positions we need to improve with quality - not quantity.
I also feel switching Maeda week in week out from wide to centre eventually caught up with him as he was expected to be Kyogo as well. Disappointed, but we need to learn from it.
2.) 25 May 2025 12:13:47
Spot on Chinks, I don't know who is worse to watch us or Man City!
3.) 25 May 2025 13:33:40
With Kyogo off, Kuhn off-the-boil, and Jota and Hatate crocked, its hard to see where that moment of magic can come from in our present side : ( If it comes down to hustle and tussle there's always teams that can go toe-to-toe.
4.) 25 May 2025 13:41:52
Hi All. I think we took the win for granted before the ball was kicked. Nor the first or last time it will happen. RESPECT THE OPPOSITION.
5.) 25 May 2025 15:52:58
We surely have the right to be disappointed, but we don’t need to find it funny that at the end of a very long difficult and successful season, we weren’t able to get it over the line against a super defensive Aberdeen side who if they had failed to win on penalties would had to face whatever the fans threw at them because of their ultra defensive tactics didn’t deserve to get anything out of match . It’s a long time since we lost a final only 5 domestic cup finals this decade and last by Kilmarnock 2011-2012, so I am sure us fans don’t know how to react . Most of our supporters are so eager for success in every competition that they have never compared us to Man City .
Our biggest difficulty was since January SPL matches became more and more meaningless, . A combination of tiredness and meaningless matches was very poor preparation for a Cup Final.
24 May 2025 18:02:24
That one for me is on BR. Forrest should have started over Khun all day long. Then when we are still controlling game take off 3 players and from then we 100% went off the boil. McCowan and Bernardo showed today why they are squad players. Keep Engles and Idah on the pitch and I think we win in normal time. Aberdeen are a poor side and to lose a treble to them is criminal.
23 May 2025 08:58:16
Kasper, Johnston, CCV, Rocky, Taylor, Calmac, Engles, Bernardo, Mandate, Idah, Forrest
That's my 11 but suspect Scales and Khun will be in.
Whatever BR selects will be too strong and although finals can be edgy and tight if we score first we will run away with it. 4-0 with Idah double.
1.) 23 May 2025 13:41:40
Decent team?.
03 Feb 2025 10:27:49
He has been with us since July 23. He hasn't improved from I've seen, better with McCowan as wide man for cover. He will be gone by the summer if not today.
13 Jan 2025 12:02:02
Really Dc, in what world does Palma ever score a hat trick against Sevco? In fact even score?
02 Aug 2024 15:31:06
Was decent anytime I watched him. Apparently available for £2m, which is worth a punt I'd say.
18 Jan 2024 22:50:20
Hi is a Player.
29 Sep 2023 18:52:58
Fantastic news, when he plays we play. Best midfielder in the country when he is on it. I think this will kick start his season. HH.
03 Mar 2025 21:52:11
For real, we would stroll it. Have you seen how some of their EPL teams are, Spurs and Man Utd struggled against Sevco! Villa are one of their EPL top teams and we gave them a run away from home.
25 Feb 2025 17:43:13
All about opinions but the manager at this point clearly believes Maeda is a better option a CF than Idah. I don't consider it a ludicrous notion, he has been played as a CF for large parts of his career, successfully at both club and international level. His performances for us, even last season where he played a few times there show he is equally effective either out wide or through the middle.
{Ed007's Note - And the stats back that up do they, how many games has Idah started as striker since Kyogo left and how many has Maeda?
Japan play with a False 9, that's why they choose Maeda..}
06 Feb 2025 09:54:11
DT, I don't disagree with the Idah argument. I love the big man and with a run he will score a barrowload of goals. For anyone looking in it would be hard to pick between Maeda and Idah as to who is the most accomplished CF. Maeda has been MOM last 2 performances and goals scored from central/ striker positions. Plus the sevvies can't handle him. Imagine him buzzing around Balogan and Soutter! Great dilemma to have and any 3 from 4 will do.
04 Feb 2025 07:08:20
An AM that will contribute 25/ 30 is a big ask. Be lucky if we get that from Idah. Otherwise agree.
03 Feb 2025 21:36:31
If we had put a bid in early for the value needed he would have come to us. Dragged our heals and low balled as per. One that might haunt us as he was def the top target. Manager even spoke yesterday to say we might need to wait until summer to get who we want . Didn't say it was him but seems likely.