Celtic Rumours Archive September 08 2012

08 Sep 2012 22:31:11
Just watched the Scotland game on Sly plus. What a calamity. COME IN CRAIG LEVEIN YOUR TIME IS UP. Its time the SFA brought in Gordon Strachan as he has proven himself to be a great manager. JK

Totally agree with wee Gordon for Scotland manager, I personally thought he did a brilliant job with us, never got the credit he was due, ok some hiccups along the way, but last 16 of cl 2 years running is some achievement, Steven Fletcher should be in the squad, Miller was taken off 20 mins too late, no Commons in the squad? Levein is out of his depth, the Watty Smith tactics at home won't pick up 3 points against anyone in this group. johnbhoy79

I watched the first half and it was rotten. Morrison, Naismith, Miller, Adam and Hutton were ineffective although McGregor and the young left back were on top of there game.
I don't rate Levein - far too negative - and feel he was found out big-time in his short stay in English football.
Wee Strachan has a wealth of knowledge and experience and his effervescent enthusiasm would be a real tonic.
However his past association with Celtic will do him no favours with the SFA.

JJ

The scotland squad was not based on the first 4games of this season, but over previous months... Where frankly - commons had a stinker of a season

If it wasn't based on the first four games of this season then how is Adam and Hutton in the first team line up haven't even kicked a ball all last season and kenny miller he's away playing at America if it was based on last season Forrest would be starting and Rhodes would be playing full stop 40 odd goals ?? Explain that

Chrissybhoy

Why would anybody pick a team who were maybe on form months ago ? That team selection was clueless. Pick the well known names and hope for the best. naismith looked like a player recovering from a serious injury, hutton has no form at all since leaving rangers. If that looks like bias then Im biased against putting off form players in World cup qualifiers. Shambles.
Yorkiebhoy.

Totally agree with you mate, scotland were rotten last night, team selection totally wrong...why naismith? Why miller? Wh adam? And don't get me started on hutton haha right what u said, hasn't had a decent game since he left oldco...forrest and rhodes should have been on from the start, would have made us a lot more fearless with genuine quality...don't get me wrong when miller lined up against us for oldco, I got nervous...I wouldn't feel that anymore as he's past his international best...get fletch back in the fold levvy heed! If not, u know where the front door is and get wee gordan in the hot seat!

08 Sep 2012 17:46:06
Further to a previous post regarding the reasons as to not supporting scotland ?
Well our relationship with the sfa is well documented plus jimmy johnstone less than 20 caps ! ! How ?
Tommy burns less than 20 caps ! ! How ? Two of the greatest players scotland has ever produced
Why so few caps ?
I know what I think

Exactly mate thats what iam getting at, filth at the helm since i can remember, and iam in my mid 30s,.,.kbarry

Jimmy Johnston without doubt but Burns was a great celtic man and a good player but he was not one of the greatest players scotland ever produced, get a grip, remember celtic are a Scottish team from Glasgow with irish roots. Also do you think Jock Stein & Alex Ferguson would not pick a player because they played for Celtic?

It goes tommy twists tommy turns tommy burns we love you, so a way back to your own page you little fool,.,.kbarry

Even when big jock was the manager he sometimes left out Celtic players for rangers players. Are you suggesting he was biased also?
Kevbhoy {Ed007's Note - I am actually happy when CFC players aren't picked, and for any squad. I don't like international football at all, I think it is horrible to watch so I would rather our players weren't risking injury, fatigue etc by playing internationals. Club football at big clubs has surpassed the international game and players know this.}

When Jimmy Johnstone played was in not some kind of committee that picked the players (Ed007 ?). All wrong and defo something amiss back then.

However, times have moved on when you look at the 5 most capped players for Scotland:-

Kenny Dalglish - 102 (Celtic & Liverpool)
Jim Leighton - 91 (Aberdeen)
Alex McLeish - 77 (Aberdeen)
Paul McStay - 76 (Celtic)
Tom Boyd - 72 (Chelsea & Celtic)

Tommy Burns was included in the management team of Scotland. Mrs E {Ed007's Note - The Selection Committee was used from 1872 - 1953, it stopped in 1954 when Andy Beattie took over for the World Cup. He resigned before the last match at the WC and the Selection Committee took over again. That continued until 1957 when Dawson Walker took over.
Johnstone didn't make his CFC debut until 1962 when ex-Rangers player Ian McColl was Scotland manager, he gave Johnstone his debut as far as I can see. McColl was succeeded by Jock Stein for his first stint at the national team. You probably missed it all due to the menopause and fighting for the vote.}

The ex Rangers men were out in force toaday on SLY. I.E. McCann and McLeish

Levein and co have made a laughing stock of the national squad. Lets ask ourselves why does Stephen Fletcher refuse to play for him? I thought that it was the managers job to play his best players from the start of the game and hopefully get a result.

So since celtic players didnt play for scotland 20-30yrs ago you still hold a grudge against the sfa despite the fact celtic players now want to play... Maybe some of the fans should get out of the dark ages and help promote the scottish game

Don't care about caps for tic players. Its the booing from the home crowd that done me. Jinky,lennox, aitken, mcstay, mclair and judas to name a few. And yes still hold a grudge, and why not? Oh and we do promote the scottish game, thru Glasgow Celtic. Hbhoy.

I agree that most celtic fans are not great scotland fans is as you say because the unashamed bias toward celtic players.johnstone/burns are examples of that but i recall them moving the best r.b in the world d.mcgrain to l.b to get jardine in team and mcneil not getting more caps ahead of that diddy mckinnon .scotland who gives a s...e

Holding grudges from a different generation will never help the national team progress... Just going to keep the scottish game in the dark ages by cOnvincing yourself that no one wants them to play for our national side

The scandalous way Tommy Burns was treated by the Scotland set-up was not from 'some bygone era' but from the last decade. First Watler Smith was appointed over his head when Bertie Vogts was sacked, then when the treacherous auld get left us in the lurch in the middle of a qualifying campaign they appointed that other ex-Rangers buffoon McLeish. They also delayed sacking George Burley until after the fans' choice Gordon Strachan found another club job. And don't get me started on the way certain Celtic legends were treated by their country (McGrory, McNeill, Lennox, Johnstone, Hay, even Dalglish and McGrain).

08 Sep 2012 16:06:12
Just another reason why i dont support the scottish national team: snodgrass in before forrest, miller(whitecaps,canadian football) in before £8m rhodes, i know transfer value sometimes counts for nowt but the scots could have a £23m strike partnership up top, craig levein(padraig post) will only have himself to blame, c'mon the serbs,.,.kbarry {Ed007's Note - I'm not watching it KB, what kind of crowd is there?}

James forrest has along way to go before he is anything like the multi million pound player you suggest.
knocked off the ball too easy, out the games for long long spells and always goes down softly looking for fouls.
He has potential but right now no better than guys like johnny russell at dundee utd.
It also sickens me to see a celtic support(100% scottish club) showing support for the opposition because celtic no longer have many good enough scottish players to be first picks. {Ed007's Note - At least you aren't over dramatising anything. Go for a wee lie down and the sickly feeling should pass.}

Charlie Adams just produced one of the most frustrating performances i have even seen in a Scotland shirt. For every good thing he done good, he done something bad. And Levein should have a look at himself for not telling him he isn't taking every corner and free kick we got. 12 corners 1 of the was good at a push. His other free kicks went the same way. Though he made some good runs and created a few good chances the same applied because he had chances to play people in and made the wrong decision a few times, although apparently his sisters pants are the best lol. Scotland were very wasteful and should have won.

Naismith missed a 1 on 1 and Kenny Milller missed a few really good opportunities...maybe if Craig Levein convinced them to imagine Fraser Forsters face when they are bearing down on goal, they might add a bit of conviction and composure to there finishing lol.

To the first reply, i never suggested anything about forrest and multi million pounds i was talking about fletcher and rhodes. Please read properly before replying my amigo and to Ed i dont know the capacity as i say i dont support scotland mate,.,.kbarry {Ed007's Note - It's cool thanks, I got it from a match report.}

Fine not supporting scotland but ridiculous to say c'mon the serbs. just stay neutral

To the op you never mentioned fletcher? read it again yourself it sounds like forrest your talking about

Iam the original poster jordan rhodes=£8m
steven fletcher=£15m
=£23m
Use your nut,.,.kbarry

Every Scotsman should support Scotland,that Includes Celtic fans. {Ed007's Note - I don't and who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't be told?}

Kbarry you don't support Scotland, why does it bother you that much to write a post about it?

08 Sep 2012 13:07:40
looks like sammy could miss the 1st cl group game with a suspected dislocated elbow playin for greece

gunniebhoy