Celtic Rumours Archive February 04 2013

04 Feb 2013 19:36:31
rogic has scored his 1st goal and a hoops shirt 1 nil up away at hamilton for the under 20's

gunniebhoy

Stokes has scored now as well 2-1!

Mrs E

Excellent start. Hope he gets a crack at Inverness.

Melb Bhoy

The first of many for young Rogic I hope.

04 Feb 2013 18:08:00
I see Sturridge has now been ruled out of the England squad leaving Hodgson with only two recognised fit strikers in Rooney and Wellbeck. Surely a good chance of Hooperman making it into the squad now. weetam1888

04 Feb 2013 11:57:21
So it would seem football is corrupt on a global scale? I've been very suspicous of any UEFA/FIFA run tournament since japan/korea world cup. If I remember correctly the two hosts beat italy and spain to ensure they both reached the quarter finals and in both games there were decisions that dodgy doesn't begin to describe. Obviously done to maintain local interest in the tournament for as long as possible. Then came porto! we all know what occured in seville but the following year they were out the cl at old trafford at 90 mins. If I remember correctly 5 mins went up on the board, man united were denied a clear foul, porto broke away and scored, whistle! They then went on to win the comp a month before euro 2004 in, wait for it, portugal! who won it? greece of course! just before the olympics in, wait for it, athens. anyone smell a rat? All these events were struggling to sell tickets which has not really been an issue in germany 2006 or either of the euros since. Thierry henrys handball against ireland was the next one for me thus ensuring france went to south africa. You only need to compare the number of African citizens of french origin and those of irish origin to see why that was done. Personally I think our domestic game is pretty clean but next week we play a team with form for it! Will be interesting for sure and todays announcement may be well timed for us. Feel free to tell me if think i'm being paranoid! andybhoy

Not paranoid mate, I agree with you. I think UEFA would prefer Juve to go through and I just don't trust them. In a perverse way we might hold the key at home. If we can re-enact the amazing atmosphere of the Barca game, the Ref might get a bit nervy and give us an even break as I think most CL refs are swayed by the big clubs names. Over in Italy sadly we will get very little, I think we all know that. . . . green jhedi

Where there's betting, there's corruption and unfortunatley nearly every sport is vulnerable it.

Will be interesting to see what comes out of this. When you think its 11 v 11 and the officials involved as well, I would not think one person in the match would be enough to 'swing it' ~ Mrs E

Andybhoy - no paranoid just stating what has been and still is going on. Look at Dundeee Utd in the EC - It comes out later that they were cheated out of the chance because of the financial politics. It is not all done blatantly but the little gestures like a nice meal fro the ref and his team before a big match, gifts for the family (reminders of their visit!), all those little hospitality gestures do sway these guys. All of that and then why are the senior people soooooh reluctant to introduce proven goal line etc. technology. They even tried putting an extra man on the goal line and still errors were missed. Nah, rotten to the core the whole lot of them and they do not want to embrace anything that makes it fair and open. In this day and age with so much money and managers jobs at stake we still have it all boiling down to one man's decision and he does not (want?) get the benefit of seeing an event a second time. TinyTim

We have the 'paranoid' label copyright at Celtic after a century plus of numerous incidents and conspiracies.
However it is frightening and galling to see this exposed on such a world-wide scale and I agree FIFA/EUFA come under scrutiny.
Personally I don't see us getting past Juventus for footballing reasons as well as any other factors involving a 'fancied' side.
Unlike Barcelona who try to beat you at football - with the odd histrionics - Juve know all the tricks of the trade and more - as well as being not too bad a team.

Jungle Jim

The corruption isn't institutional its coming from corrupt Asian betting markets one a game by game basis, you forgot to mention how Fifa organised the Kennedy assassinations

I think the key here is there is too much pressure on the referee to make to right decision in a split second. We need some sort of tv replay, to take pressure off the referees.

I think your doing Greece a bit of an injustice, it was incredible that they won Euro 2004.

Quack

04 Feb 2013 15:13:58
It is institutional, it's not limited to sport, and it comes from the top down.
Mourinho had his career handed to him on a gold plate. pea

Lot of good points, @5 I think it is institutional, goes right down to who is awarded tournaments, I thought england deserved 2018 world cup but didn't get it because they didn't need to spend a lot to stage it. compared with russia and quatar who will need to build stadiums etc. a 1% kickback to fifa on all construction contracts would keep them at the standard to which they have become accustomed! The asian syndicates corrupt sport game by game but its rotten right to the top. andybhoy

Andybhoy are you suggesting in your original post that Seville was fixed for Porto to beat us?
Kevbhoy

Kevbhoy, we didn't get many decisions that night and porto got away with all sorts! can't think of any massive decisions the ref had but its a long time ago, don't think we'd have got a pen though!

Remember the amoruso incident when we played Juve, and how many times is a ball kicked out for a shy at kick off? jj

To pea, mourinho had his career given to him on a plate?yeah right. is that why INTER had to play BARCA. in the nou camp with 10 men for about an hour, still got through and went on to beat BAYERN. sounds like someone still ain't got over seville. . .

I think your conspiracy theory will fall down next year. The next World Cup is Brazil in 2014 with the Olympics in 2016.
There is no way Brazil will win the World Cup, the way they are playing.
Either Argentina or Spain will be the winners.

Its not necessarily about who wins it! more to do with raising the profile and public interest in the country that needs it most at the time and ensuring the tournament is a financial success, brazil is sports mad so selling tickets won't be a problem. what I was saying was when portugal and greece needed their people to get very interested they made sure they had a reason to be. andybhoy