Celtic Rumours Archive July 25 2012

 

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25 Jul 2012 21:55:08
Just seen someone asked if John Sutton is any worse than VoH....surely that is not a serious question? Big Jan was f***ing quality! Goals in big cl games against the likes of Man U and Barca and a last minute winner against whatstheirname who used to be in the league to keep 3iar alive, plus not far off a goal every 2 games ratio.

Mikey Bhoy

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Couldn't agree more mikey bhoy. big jan gave everything he had every time he stepped on to the pitch, a great servant to the club during his time here. john sutton couldn't lace the big mans boots.

scotty bhoy

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VOH wasn't quality mate (sorry)

Michael 1888

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Venegoor was anything but quality. Celtic career started well but totally tailed off. Very poor striker.

Drew

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On his day VOH could be very good, but a lot of the time he was pretty poor too. I am not sure he 'gave his all' for every game either. Do admit tho he did score some important goals for us. Hbhoy

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JOH crap,but better than JOHN SUTTON ffs are we CELTIC or mcallswell.

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25 Jul 2012 20:52:40
Awright Ed, first time I have put a post up on the site. Got a few points if that's ok

1) Now that Thomson is away who will now be taking control of the training sessions? I know Neil is quite hands on, however I feel the players would benefit from an experienced coach in there.

2) I feel as if we have to many dead wood strikers at parkhead at the moment - samaras murphy bangura, Simon cox would fall into that category I feel.

3) with the players that have left us this summer we should be in a position to go out and bring someone in on loan pay them 30k a week and still be saving money....very frustrating! {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site, and thanks.}

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I agree with most of your post mate, a part from Big Sammy, I know the guy dosn't sore enuf but the guy is quality and hardly ever gets the credit he deserves, The guy plays anywere he is asked and when hes on for theres no one beter in the spl, give him a break and get behind him. HailHail

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He just doesn't do enough for me mate. If some1 came in with a 2m bid for him I would bite the hand of them. But that's the thing no 1 is even interested in him

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Sorry but when Sammy is on his game he is unplayable. When he is not at his best he never hides, unlike Hooper and Stokes. Sammy is a real team player IMO. Hbhoy

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Serious question here how many times last season was samaras unplayable? Hooper & stokes can be nonexistent in games and then pop up with a goal.

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25 Jul 2012 11:20:51
Hi Ed,

Have you any idea if our champions league qualifyer will be televised?

DAMO1888 {Ed007's Note - I expect that only the away leg will be televised.}

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I would expect the game to be on CelticTV, Although it might be on a delayed broadcast from midnight

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Is the Helsinki game on the season ticket?

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25 Jul 2012 14:47:15
Whats your thoughts regarding signing John Sutton ?

Think he would do a job for us and take the knocks

Michael 1888

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He is crap............no argument, go down that road, we will be trying to qualifiying for europa league FFS guys are we celtic or CELTIC....JIM THE TIM.

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Come on. Step backwards when we are in a crucial time to move forwards. Got to set our sights on better that John Sutton

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The simple fact of the matter is that he isn't better than what we already have. He is under contract at Hearts so would involve a fee and he wouldn't be worth it.
Bee bee

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If that's all we can hope for then this is indeed sad times....

Iain

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I would hav thought that he has a good scoring record against us would be an attraction for us. better than murphy works hard and anyone who says we could do better is sutton any worse than VoH?

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Pure Colin nish. Cha67

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Can't believe that comment about Jan Venegoor of Hesselink. 178 career goals, 17 caps for holland and 34 goal in 76 for celtic. And this guy is asking if he was any better than John Sutton. Your embarrassing yourself mate. Scored against Man Utd and Barcelona in the Champions League for us not mention a very, very important winner for us in the last seconds against the Shame. The guy deserves more respect in my opinion. His legs went and he lost a yard of pace by christmas in the following season but he was a good striker and I wish we had got him a few years earlier. John Sutton wasn't even good enough for hearts last season under a manager who knew what he was doing. And to the guy who suggested he would provide work rate. Have you watched Sutton playing? I think you are confusing giving away fouls and being caught offside with working hard. This transfer suggestion is a nonsense. I think some people are so desperate for a signing now they have forgotten what Celtic class means.

We move on.


Stevensee88

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VoH was a Dutch Int ffs. IMO John Daly from Utd is a step back and Sutton couldn't lace his boots. Need to be looking for better quality than that.

Daz the Hoopy

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Crazy that ppl actually believe he is celtic class. Wouldnt get near the field so would be a waste of fee and wages, and also no chance of moving him on for a big profit/ Pointless and will never happen. Would rather play Watt and give him a chance

Skooter

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Jon daly scored 25 goals last season more than bangura and stokes and rasmussen put together and thats for dundee utd how many would he score for celtic ?? he isnt a classy striker but he scores goals and would cost about 500k probs 4 grand a week! a big target man who is dominant in the air ! just what we need i say! i welcome all arguments

chalky bhoy!

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If you could get some one half as good as VOH , we would have a good player on our hands.

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Geez a break chalky bhoy he would be in the exact same position as those guys and wouldnt score 25 goals for us coz he wouldnt be near the field. Good player but why add to the wage bill for someone that wont contend for a starting place. Use that money towards someone that will help us in CL and put pressure on hooper and stokes to start

Skooter

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Ok skooter thats a fair point however against ajax or any football playing side if we are struggling with the tactics i.e playing fast attractive football on the carpet we like any other football team should be able to change it ie. if needed play the long ball and play off a big strong centre forward..however we dont do it and havent done it for years because we havent got a big strong centre forwardin that role! jon daly may not be a big dazzling signing or celtic class(whatever that means anymore) but he could do a job easily....remember we are no longer a big spending club! so why not???

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If money is tight and the best we are talking about is the likes of Sutton, then Jon Daly is the man. Proven goal scorer in the SPL, last season the best target man in the division. Hbhoy

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25 Jul 2012 10:30:18
Happy birthday to Anthony Stokes who is celebrating his birthday today, Hail Hail Stokesy

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24 Jul 2012 22:15:40
ED,Have you any info,on who might replace Alan Thompson..?/?..Personally I'd go for Joe Jordan,but dont know if hes at any club..cheers,stevo {Ed007's Note - Joe Jordan would be a great addition to the staff. He isn't at any club but the way things are looking I don't think a replacement for Thompson will be brought in, if there was you would have thought it would be done by now.}

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If there was you would have thought it would be done by now.

Unless they were involved with another club. In particular a club that was involved with summer football.

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Big Joe would be a great acquisition, not just as a striker coach either.

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We need an experienced coach the best managers around inc Ferguson and oneil used them big mistake for neil if he goes it alone

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Don't fancy Joe Jordan. Never worked the last time he was here, should give someone else the chance

samson

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Stuart Baxter...?

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More money being saved then ED007.jimthetim.......ynwa.

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John Collins
Ska bhoy

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Moravcik...

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24 Jul 2012 19:10:53
if mensah signs on a free i hope nl also takes a chance with the nigerian bhoy efe , i would also rather see watt play than sign cox, couple of questions for ed , i asked if you knew how keatings and paul george where progressing on the injury front but never seen any reply ,and has the big bhoy from sporting lisbon came on trial as he looked to have done ok with cercle bruges last season,,,,deep river bhoy

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The only problem with africans is the buggering off to the african nations at important part of the season. that saying they both look solid.

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24 Jul 2012 18:08:07

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JB

{Ed007's Note - My e-mails weren't working JB but they seem to be sorted now, I was at the match last night and have an appointment this afternoon, but I will e-mail when I get back later. Everything was fine BTW, thanks.}

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24 Jul 2012 16:36:19
Sly sports saying Celtic have officially approached west brom about Simon cox! I haven't seen much of him myself, what do you think ed? Would he do a good job at paradise?

Green surfer {Ed007's Note - I'm not too keen, he's another striker that doesn't seem to score enough goals.}

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He turns like a bus, no pace, decent finisher when given a chance but will never get in behind a centre half due to lack of pace, one dimensional.....no no no

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Slightly better than daryll...eff off....jim the tim..............

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24 Jul 2012 22:47:54
Hi ed I was wandering if you knew of any reason why Lennon wasn't at tonight's game ? Is he looking at transfer target etc ? . Thanks j . {Ed007's Note - He was away watching Helsinki.}

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Thanks for the reply bud . Hailhail . {Ed007's Note - No probs.}

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