Celtic Rumours Archive July 24 2013

 

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24 Jul 2013 23:28:01
Reports in Italy we are in for Marcelo Estigarribia of Deportivo Maldonado he is a Left Winger and has 32 caps for Paraquay he was on loan at Sampdoria last year and Juventus year before.

SharkyBhoy

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Watched a few games on the back of another potential target and diligently so. A key part of the guys pivotal play is beating and taking a tackle with the guarantee of a foul to make some room where his skill has run out.(sorry might not happen in Scotland with the same success where there are more hatchet men than than axe owners ).
We have had so many journeymen that looked ‘tasty’ over the years with, sadly, a non-start stigma haunting their ranks. Vic’s away and all the chat of men for boots is a little off the mark. We will be/are a different team every season. My point is if boots could be filled every year with tens of score notes we would be there (cl) all the time. I’m adamant that a spark of talent will take us or break us this year. ground hog (mystic meg source there Ed ).
A certain percentage of our signings get the celtic bug they are only human and they will fight….i don’t think personally we will spash-I know we wont. Before anything, ego, money or otherwise will fray a player or three next season. Let them go if that is the case for 1m off the asking as our deals have went and are tied to be done I hope. I want hooper to sell for 8 but the vultures don’t pay a fee for a wage driven epl bosman 2014……….
Plus point though haha….It’s the first time I’ve heard my sev mates talk about anything to do with the game in months….poor c., ts

actually let them revel in any tv funded coverage(sure it will be a issue for noise/treat)

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24 Jul 2013 23:25:11
Just heard that José Mourinho is looking to loan out Lucas Piazon, looks a great wee player from what I've seen might be worth while as cover if the wages aren't to high?

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No loans please, WE ARE CELTIC LOANS ain't GOOD ENOUGH, ENOUGH!

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Think I would rather chalobah from them, could maybe replace big vic for a season
craigy

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Excellent shout for Chalobah Craigy, he was a student at the school I work at, I've watched him play since he was 14. He reminds me very much of Vic, also more than competent at Centre Half as well. Reckon its more likely that he'll either go back to Watford or be eased into Chelsea sqaud though. Champions League experience is the only read draw we would have. Believe it or not his wages would also put him in the upper bracket of our structure too. Short term he would be a great addition but we have absolutely no chance of signing him permanently. Personally, I think we need to move away from any loan deals where there is no option to buy, unless its post xmas injury cover. Daviebhoy77

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Chelsea youngster Lucas Piazon is hoping to join a Premier League club on loan after enjoying a temporary spell at Malaga last year. The Brazilian told a newspaper:

In this next season, I will try to stay in the Premier League and to do a great season and come back stronger.
gbhoy

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24 Jul 2013 20:53:39
Just a rumour but I heard that we have enquired about Rhodes.Seems Lenny can use the Hooper cash plus £1m to spend on a striker and Rhodes is pretty keen on the move.Not from an impeccable source but third hand.Love it to be true but just can't see it. I do remember his old man reckoning Celtic would be a better move then Blackburn.ED 007: any gossip?. green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I've mailed someone who will know what is going on with Rhodes. I'll let you know when I get a reply.}

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I'd walk to Blackburn and give him a cokey back all the way to Glasgow. That's how much I'd love to see Rhodes in a Celtic top!

LM67

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Not a celtic fan, but I hope this is true. Fantastic wee player.

NE Gooner

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A think Rhodes would be brilliant at celtic. Really hope this happens but just can't see it mate.
HailHail, Jordi Bhoy

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Lol if only eh I wish we would pay what ever for him

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Can't see this happening, if we can't meet the 4.5million asking price for rudnev then there's no way that we will spend more on Rhodes

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Why can't we afford a big player. a read all these posts and its all about not spending big.in the past yr we have generated over £40m in transfers and cl money. pl get your finger out and wallet give the supporters what they deserve.

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Blackburn paid quite a lot of money for him and unfortunately I don't think we would pay what they would want. Maybe the board see spending big on Rhodes as a good invest, he has the potential to be a good premier league striker and could easily rise in price if we had him for a few seasons.

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Think we have to watch our cash but Rhodes would come in and do a job straight away. Even at £8m I reckon we would turn a profit on him after a couple of seasons if he scored goals in the Champ's League. I would enquire about Steven Fletcher too.

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I think 3 million would be our whack on one player. remember we need more than one as apart from stokes and sammy there is nobody else. leaving ourselves really bare here. lawell and co are extremly cagey with the dosh and rightly so. maybe get someone up top in on a free with experience but I will be very surprised if the boat is pushed out past the 2/3 million mark for a player. I could be wronther in the champs leag being left until we are either in the champs league or europa

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This rumour comes up every window and is fuelled by wish-full thinking. However we are in the best financial position for decades and should be able to attract very good players and tie up our best players (that wish to stay at Celtic). I suppose one significant point if we did go for Rhodes, would be that he is young enough to be classed as an investment for the club in future years.

JJ

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24 Jul 2013 19:09:53
Cuenca from Barcelona on season long loan?anyone else heard this?id be surprised if this is true.Know he went on loan to Ajax and got injured.Dont even know that he is fit as yet.Ed any info on this? {Ed007's Note - He is still out injured and isn't expected back until September/October.}

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I don't think we'd be able to loan players from Barcelona. If they wanted to loan players out to get some game time, it wouldn't be to the spl. They could put him in their B team and he'd be playing better opposition.

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I'd have thought the same until I seen he was on loan at Ajax so they obviously do loan players.Dont see it happening though

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24 Jul 2013 15:58:43
Seen the report on lennons transfer targets in the daily rag today, saber khelifa and the lad rudnev (spelling) looking at both stats rudnev scored 14 goals in the bundesliga last season and saber khelifa scored 13 in 23 games watched both players on you tube and both fit the bill I think khelifa is a wee bit more technical but both would be a great addition to our strike force and should be affordable with the money we have generated!

What do you think bhoys?

Chalky bhoy.

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24 Jul 2013 16:30:04
Do not know much about the Tunisian player, but in the past players from hot climates like this do not handle our Scottish weather to good, cannot see him on a wet November night wanting to leave comfort of dugout, no go in my book, bring in Rudneyv. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Plus we could lose Khelifa for ACON tournaments in the future.}

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Have said already - Evian offer a number of players who would add to our squad. We were linked to the other striker (Sagbo) but it seems he is going to Hull. Suspect khelifa might offer a few more goals - sagbo perhaps a wee bit more like Marc-antoine fortune. With lassad, miku and hooper all away, I feel 2 strikers are still needed - but think lawwell will not want to pay the price for rudnevs. Jean-pierre Laguerre

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Lennon spoke about a prolific striker. this guy has 16 goals in 54 games from what I can see. I don't think the quality of defending in the french league is that great to thing he will score goals for fun here.

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24 Jul 2013 17:20:28
From speaking to a Hamburg fan today, he would be sorry to see Rudnevs go as he feels he is a really good technical goalscorer with a good work ethic. Sign him up PL!

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24 Jul 2013 18:51:05
ED007 surely Sevco should be taking part in any
"A CON" tournaments lol Timalloy

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Going be good to see a new face up front, hope he is a hero who hits the ground running and wants to stay.

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Yeah but how many goals have these players scored in the champions league group stages? Because that's precisely what we need.
Sometimes I think PL is far too careful and doesn't believe we are capable of taking it to last 8.
WE NEED A STRIKER WHO HAS CL GROUP STAGES GOALS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, against that quality of opposition.
Nobody can argue with this because its the level we're competing at and this is the level of quality we need to turn out if we have any ambition.

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This is the fourth evian player we've been linked to since nl was spotted at the french cup final, are the press going to go through the whole team? the guy doesn't look prolific but different sites state he also plays lw/ l mid maybe that's why his stats aren't great, have never seen or until know heard of him so it would be a fingers crossed and hope for the best if he signs, rudvens isn't exactly prolific either apart from one season in poland but looks a good player similar to hooper but is he worth 5 mill?, would be good enough for spl mind you . deep river bhoy

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We can't afford a proven cl goal score! We need to find our next star forward like we always do! The Latvian sound like a good target but if not surely there is un heralded strikers who will step up. Maybe balde but for all we know he's just another bangura for now

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Personally would love to finally see Rudnevs here, but I fear Celtic will not stump up what is required. Surely we are entitled to one slightly more expensive signing, the last 3.5m plus player was Efrain Juarez 3 years ago. Come on Peter, you have already made a lot of money.

Danjam

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To the nameless post about the amount of goals these guys have scored in CL, FFS. If they had scored a decent amount of goals in the CL we wouldn't even be in the running for this type of player, we cannot and will not be able to compete at that end of the market, The End:
Deep River Bhoy. Your right, the media will run through players until eventually and coincidentally we sign a player that they mentioned, we need to remember what we're up against in the SPFL, dross! Wills the board spend decent money on a proven striker and take the risk that he might not fit in or take the cheap option in case he doesn't fit in (and win if he does)
Not sure how accurate reports are, but Rudnevs is the one for me, doubt it'll happen and would aplaud the board if they pulled it off, like I said if he was prolific in the bundesliga we couldn't even consider a "Marque" loan

Bigbadjohn

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We don't need proven CL strikers. We done well last season without a proven CL striker. What we need is striker(s) who can score 20+ goals in the League first, good form in the Leagie would in turn lead to confidence and possibly more goals in the Cup competitions.

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Guys thanks for all the feedback to my original post, I for one am a little disappointed at the lack of activity .why would you come out in the media and say we are looking to bring in two players before Thursday deadline . and then all we hear about is hooper leaving for qpr . We are in a very comfortable situation financially and to progress into the group stages we are going to have to bring at least three more players that can hit the ground running .

Chalky bhoy

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We may also be looking at players who won't commit unless/until CL group stages are guaranteed!

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SOS Boy and the rest, if we don't need CL quality strikers then we accept mediocrity with the occasional lucky advancement in Europe. Not showing much ambition to be honest. I hope u all come back on here should the worst case scenario unfold and we have just the league to focus on from next month!
That going to b enough for u? Doubt it come dec and crowds are at 20k
About time the board backed the playing side of things, same old since I started going regularly back in the 80's
Stevo dundee

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Well tell us all the cl striker that we could sign? Players such as podolski and reus scored 4 cl goals last year I'd just like to know what cl goalscorers u want?

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24 Jul 2013 15:34:20
Hi Ed, I posted a few weeks ago that Hooper would be gone before the end of the month, its now looking like it, QPR (great ambition Gary, money talks )
Going by what I've heard, we will be going for the cheap option and hopefully unearthing another big vic type player.Saber Khelifa fits that bill & Artjoms Rudnevs is a big name dropped in to please the Celtic fans, a feel good factor, we tried but could not match the wages ect. PL you held out for big money for vic(rightly so) you've basically and get done the same with Hooper, now pay the money and get Rudnevs in, and the otheer buck for back up.
john88

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According to old Redknap they have been watching Hooper since his time at Grays Athletic. Why didn't they sign him then? bye bye Gary. JK

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Good luck to GH I think he will need a lot of luck to show what he can do for them.

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24 Jul 2013 21:09:40
Scott McDonald says it all. Good luck Gary we can only wonder now if you could have been regarded as legend. Bear1888.

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24 Jul 2013 14:36:37
SLY SPURTS

Celtic have accepted a bid for Gary Hooper from Q.P.R

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Been a hero. I wish him nothing but well. Now to replace with quality - I'd even make the argument of 2 quality players. e.g Doyle and Rudnev - coupled with Stokes and Balde and then young Watt on loan

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If this is true I would imagine this was more the clubs doing than Hoopers. I'm sure he would have waited on a Premiership offer for but the club have decided that 5m is reasonable and sent him packing back to the championship. Good Luck Hoops, doubt we will be seeing you at International level anytime soon but thanks for the memories.

DAMO1888

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I don't quite understand this move from playing in the champions league and for a massive club like Celtic and everything that comes with that to championship football with a club which is more than likely turning into the new Portsmouth very soon. Very strange I assume the money on offer is too good to turn down well until the administrators come in and pay you off but if that what makes you happy go for it all I can say is thanks for the goals and good memories all the best Gary.

Franny Bhoy.

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Hopefully this will be done and dusted today so we can quickly move on. He was a decent player for us but the "will he - won't he" saga has rumbled on too long. The £5m quoted is a good price for a player entering the last year of his contract. For some reason I don't think we have heard the end of this. He will most likely reject QPR in favour of holding out for an EPL team. It is getting tedious to say the least.

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Good luck to the bhoy was outstanding for us hopefully now push on and get somebody in quick

Bhoy

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I hope this brings an end to this long running saga. I think we will miss him terribly but we have to respect his wishes. Where he goes and what level of football he plays is none of our business. The lad has been terrific for us and I think deep down we all appreciate what he has done for Celtic. After all, the only reason anyone is being critical of him is because we rate him as a player. If he was useless we'd be glad to see the back of him, so perhaps some of the negative reaction to him leaving is actually a veiled compliment to the guy.
So for my last time of saying, best wishes Gary and thank you for everything. You have behaved with dignity and I for one wish you well.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

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Would agree with the first reply other than Doyle, he's mince and I hope gets nowhere near a Celtic jersey

Iain

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Agree with ChrisBhoy one hundred percent.

Danjam

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24 Jul 2013 12:32:43
Tonight's ET going with story "Celtic's transfer target hits stumbling block"
Apparently Celtic contacted Hamburg and refused to pay the £4.5m asking price, for Rudneyv.
Ok I agree do not take everything at face value written in press, but I can see Lawwell haggling over the fee.
In my eyes the fee is not excessive, if we want £4.5m for Hooper surely we must replace him with player of similar or better ability, and by all accounts Rudneyv would be a good signing for us.
Your thoughts bhoys/ghirls and wee Pat? Timalloy

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Would love Rudnevs but this 500k less than this fee would buy you Philipp Hosiner. Who would do as good a job and I would guess he wouldn't command as high wages.

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I don't know too much about rudnevs but I agree if he is of hooper calibre 4.5 m is reasonable especially after12 bundesliga goals last year

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Totally agree mate, but I've been hearing the guy would need to take a wage drop aswell so don'nt know if that has any bearing

Tompo88

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Well Hosiner is a target for EPL teams so we could be priced out of wages at somepoint. End of the day PL wants 5mil for a striker with a year left, but won't pay 4.5 for a striker to come in a replace hooper tells us everythin we need to know, he wants top dollar for our players but isn't willing to pay top dollar for a player. We won't sign anyone decent, we will end up settling just like we did last year with miku and lassad!

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For those wondering about rudnevs - he is a real bundesliga type striker. by that I mean he is lean, a clinical finisher, and good with his head as well as his feet. Key thing about rudnevs is he 'only' about 6 feet he is very very good in the air. A bit like Henrik Larsson - he 'plays bigger' than he actually is. Would be very effective in scotland. Jean-Pierre laguerre

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I see we have been fed the usual bull by Lawell again. Type in the following on an Internet search "Peter Lawell will hand Neil".

You will then get a story where he confirms we will spend 5 million on a player who will add value. Surely if Lennon is looking to buy Rudnevs he must think he can add value (replace Hooper) so why won't we spend less than 5 million on him?

Story put out just to sell season tickets.

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Its the usual with PL, always splurts BS to sell tickets. I believe we won't sign any of the players mentioned, and will end up with squad players nowhere near good enough for first team.

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Totally agree with most of the sentiments-me and all my mates are totally disillusioned with the signing policy. We're not stupid, we know in the current climate you have to be sensible, but there is a fine line between being prudent and treating the fans like mugs! If we don't spend the Wanyama/Hooper money on top quality I'll be contacting Peter Lawell, because on the one hand we get all the platitudes about being the best fans in the world/how big a club we are etc, etc, on the other hand we take an age to do anything, and never show any true ambition-with the most recent example being Steven Fletcher. And it's not just that one case it's the way it's always been since I started watching Celtic. Paul

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When I typed rudenevs name in to wikipedia it says his current club is Celtic signed today 4 year deal for you5.2 .mil hail hail keep the faith Davie
tenerife {Ed007's Note - Don't trust Wikipedia as a reliable source, anybody can edit the information on it.}

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I think the signing policy is good but a marquee signing wouldn't go wrong! The Dutch bhoy could be what we need at the back, I think rogic will come on a good bit balde looks right rough around the edges but he could be the next drogba or next bangura! Only time will tell I'm sure when Garry signed we never knew what we were getting

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