Celtic Rumours Archive January 21 2012

21 Jan 2012 22:40:34
Ed if we win the league do we go straight into CL groupstage or do we have t qualify

Celticthomas {Ed007's Note - Both first and second place teams go into the CL at the third qualifying round next season.}

Champions pot and a second placed pot also, probs make no difference tho!?

That will be us and one of three from Hearts/St Johnstone/Motherwell then Ed lol

Bhaldrick {Ed007's Note - It could actually be that mate.}

Ed
it will be as they might have a licence problem with Uefa

Bhaldrick {Ed007's Note - Exactly.}

No mights bhaldrick,no accounts signed off n submitted to SFA. wonderfull! green jhedi

What's your knowledge of applying for the licence then Ed?
is it re-apply every year by a certain time .ive seen you post about accounts in lieu of getting a licence.
how soon would a club be informed that no licence will be granted to them? as the Sion debacle took months for Uefa to sort out

Bhaldrick {Ed007's Note - The SFA should not allow Rangers to even apply for a Euro licence under the terms of UEFA statues (laws). It is there in black and white for anyone to see and surely the administrators of our game know the rules of the game, or you would like to think so. If Rangers had submitted accounts that were accurate (31st December 2010) and it reached UEFA they would deny a licence (the tax issues alone are enough for the licence not to be granted). For next season they have failed to produce signed off accounts as of 31st December 2011:

“The licence applicant (Rangers, in this instance) must prove that as at 31 December of the year preceding the season to be licensed it has no payables overdue towards its employees as well as social and tax authorities in respect of contractual and legal obligations with its employees.”

Applicant clubs must also, “prepare and submit future financial information which is based on assumptions about events that may occur in the future and possible actions by the management of the reporting entity.

“The future financial information must include a brief description of each of the significant assumptions (by reference to the relevant aspects of historic financial and other information) that have been used to prepare the budgeted profit and loss account and cash flow statement, and also briefly describe the key risks that may affect the future financial results.”

Might need to discount Hearts Ed
as mad vald's accounts might be a bit risky to

and looking at the state of the rest of the clubs accounts Ayr United might be in with a chance of champions league lol

Bhaldrick {Ed007's Note - Get Accies in it lol.}

Ed ,
Given UEFAs law that you have laid out should it not have been the case that Rankers should not have been in Europe this season ? Also do the SFA/SPL not have criteria to fill here and some blame to take for filing the aplication ?
CelticMatt {Ed007's Note - It is questionable whether Rangers should have been granted a licence this season. Stewart Regan has said that Rangers tax bill(s) had not crystallised so it was fine to grant Rangers their Euro licence for this season. For a tax bill to crystallise one of two things must happen

A) The recipient of the tax assessment agrees with HMRC that the amount is owed.
B) A FTT tribunal finds in HMRC favour.

With the prior acceptance of the 'wee tax bill' (£2.8 million) by the previous and current owner this surely crystallises at least one of the bills. It is the date of this crystallisation that is leading to confusion and whether Rangers should have been granted a licence for this season.}

Why don't you all concentrate on your own team? {Ed007's Note - Because it is just TOO funny to ignore the shambles that is Rangers. We are all suffering from schadenfreude.}

21 Jan 2012 21:23:53
Real Madrid have picked up on Wanyama's performances. I expect a 2-3 year scouting program on him. fact they where at parkhead v r*ngers

Away and boil yer heid.

Ed I am surprised the HSE executive haven't served a notice on you after allowing the comment above!! {Ed007's Note - We have a legal disclaimer lol}

21 Jan 2012 20:40:04
Sign big forster up i say, i think last year he was maybe unaware of the size of club he was comin too, now i think the big man is starting to get comfy in his slippers...could be there for years if he keeps it up.
Bhrydo bhoy

Agreed , hes finding his feet now, would welcome a permanent deal. keir

21 Jan 2012 19:52:04
On Twitter 'Celtic looking to bring in big name euro striker on loan' I know it's a bit vague but anybody got any ideas or heard anything. What about you Ed? You appear to have your finger on the pulse.

Jamesy Dell {Ed007's Note - It seems the player NL wants isn't available to buy during this window but is available to loan.}

Please dont bombard Ed with names
however i have heard a possible target coming in from Germany.

Cheers Ed. Have you any inclination to a possible name? Berbatov has been muted today at the game (I can't see it and don't want him. I reckon he'd be a disruption to the squad and we can't afford him) Amauri has also been suggested by a mate, apparently out of favour at Juve. I've personally got a hunch that it's someone from the Bundisliga.

Jamesy Dell {Ed007's Note - It is not Berbatov!! I said yesterday that a player from the Bundesliga was on the radar Jamesy.}

Ive been hearing freddi kanoutes name a few times tonite

My money's on one of Marcus Berg, Damien Le Tallec or Giovanni Sio.

Giovanni Sio has just signed for Wolfsburg .

Yeah I know but he hasn't played for them (thus it wouldn't be illegal according to FIFA rules), they have a ton of options up front and he is still young so there's an off-chance they might look to loan him out.

It was just an off-the-top-of-my-head list of German based players with a bit of a reputation. I don't see us getting an established big-name from Germany unless it's a guy just off a long injury lay-off or an older player not getting playing time but I could see us getting an up-and-coming young player who'd offer us something different up front.

All three of those players fit the criteria, and Sio I'm sure we've been linked with before.

21 Jan 2012 18:20:38
Hey ed, not a rumour but a question...have you any idea what the going rate for a player is in Poland? Cause I know a Lech poznan fan who praises they're striker Rudnevs all the time? Is there any possibility of Celtic having a look? He's scored 18 league goals this season... {Ed007's Note - Arjtjoms Rudnevs is a Latvian international. With the scouting system I am sure CFC are aware of him. He was valued at £5 million supposedly last year with a few EPL and European teams looking at him, but I doubt he would cost that. He looks a good player from what I have seen of him.}

21 Jan 2012 17:38:18
Ed can you tell me if commons played well today im from carlisle and couldnt see the game {Ed007's Note - He came on in the 58th minute and done OK.}

Go to the sports bar in the town centre.they usually have the Celtic games on 1 of their many t.v's mate.hail hail

I thought Commons changed the game when he replaced Samaras

I agree with the above poster gave us fresh impetus and some attacking threat from the left


Junglebhoy33

He pulled their right back out of position a few times and had a few good touches and passes. looked good and hope he is back to his best as it will be like a new signing.

Does no 1 else think we lack a creative midfielder who can get in the box and support hooper and stokes,ki is supposed to do it but i am not a big fan of him at all.

After a few games commons will his fitness back and will probaly play a vital part in winning the league. beleive he can regain his form of last season

BarryBhoy

21 Jan 2012 16:07:41
Paddy McCourt to Blackpool, apparently the rumour is hotting up?

I thinks its time he moved on how much do u think we cud get for him

How about unlimited ride wristbands for the whole squad for the pleasure beach? {Ed007's Note - Jamesy would LOVE that!!}

Yeah jamesy would love that ,but there is a hight restriction on most rides lol

Hail hail

It's all right,they have a Nickelodeon area now.

Jungle Bhoy.

Hed b as happy as a currant bun in his sisters knickers haha is1888 seriously tho ill b sad 2 c paddy go as he has got sum amount o talent only prob is his fitness n the fact we hav so much competition 4 places in his position i mean he never scores a bad goal theyre always crackers paddy mccourts f*nian army hail hail

He has scored some spectacular solo goals but he doesnt seem to be able to command his a first team spot, wether its because he has been labelled a super sub or fitness problems i dont know, but i think its time to cash in on him, will never be a regular first team player , were not struggling for midfielders by any means, keir

21 Jan 2012 14:28:31
Where's all the Scott Brown & James Forrest doubters today o/ ?

Not the most enjoyable experience but result ground out - Mrs E

Add the Forster doubters to that (he kept us in the game today)this is a priority for us get him signed

Scott browns too inconsistent, thats why he has doubters, forster in my opinion was lacking confidence, and looked nervy when he first came, theres no doubt that both have upped their game and playing to their ability now, willybhoy

Scott brown mite have scored but once again didn't have a great game
Paddy

I was one of big Fraser's doubters & will gladly stand corrected, the improvement has been great...what is it now 9/11 clean sheets ? Its the James Forrest doubters that really get me, we've had to rely on him too much in my opinion this season (esp in the early part of the season) to dig the team out of a hole. He's a crackin wee winger - Mrs E

Actually forgot about his assist as well but still for our captain to be the weak link in our midfield far to many times is unacceptable for me, I've stuck by him for years hopin he'd prove me wrong but it's worn out now. Suppose we're all entitled to our own opinions tho

Paddy

Ive not heard any1 doubt forrest to be honest hes been a revelation this season, cant fault him myself willybhoy

What game did you watch paddy, brown ran his guts out for the cause, he was faultless today

Agreed,i have been critical of brown but he did get thru a power of work and his set up for forrest was clever. green jhedi

How can you possibly say that brown was poor today...he was outstanding

Hes just not good enough, canny make a simple pass at times and turns into trouble far to often

Paddy

Brown was imense today. can only remember him losing the ball once and he won it back afterwards. Did all the running for the midfield as Wanyama didn't have the best of games!

I think the goal that Broony scored has made people blind to the amount of times he gave the ball away in midfield, he is average but miles better than Ki who was non existant...

Im a scott brown doubter and here i am he is rubbish

All these people who back Brown must remember that we paid 4.4m for a player who has got 12 goals in 130 appearances or so. A player at that price - who has been the main man in midfield for this long should have contributed far more - especially in a league as average as the spl. Look at Kris Commons last season who has got more goals in half a season out on the wing. He is not creative enough and doesn't chip in with enough assists. We have to look at the bigger picture and say overall he works hard but doesn't possess great ability. If anything Ledley is the only player who is capable from the centre of getting forwards and getting assists and goals. Something we haven't had for years because we haven't replaced what Stillian Petrov gave us.

2 the poster above broonie was magic in his season 4 the hoops after that he had 2 deal with the trauma of his sister passing away which would b hard enuff 4 anybody there r people who would b off work 4 months n months due 2 a family bereavement n yet he still stuck at it which shows the strength of character he has he has also 4 the past 2 years up 2 n including this season been playing while carryin an injury which required surgery n thats cos he plays 4 the cause n doesnt let anybody down the boy gives a hundred percent cum rain hail or shine he is energetic gives us such dig in midfield n i think he drives the team on he has that wind up part of his game n psyches out players so well ala keane lennon etc i think the players around him drive their performances up wen broonie leads by example he mite not hav scored a lot of goals but he scores vital goals the 1 where he got it rite up that t**t diouf n had him in his pocket 4 the whole game n yesterday wen it was a tight 1 0 lead he also wen he plays on the right gives gd cover 2 the right back n he can come inside 2 give us a solid 3 in the middle wen its needed wen u nd players 2 stand up n b counted he never shirks the task n u gotta admire that n just like super joe ledley hed play wherever nl asks him 2 as hes all 4 the team nl has faith in broonie as do i IS1888

Also you have to remember broonie was played out of position and carrying injuries, i think hes great, keeps chasing down balls and gets into tackles, every team needs a player like broonie, Keir

21 Jan 2012 14:21:30
I really do hope we keep hold of commons because after watching us win today in really difficult conditions he turned the game for us


Junglebhoy33

Always thought he was an exceptional player.like i said a few weeks ago.get the problems sorted,and we have a great player again

Spot on mate. Get him fully match fit and he'll be like a new signing again. End of Sammy tho.

Richybhoy

Richybhoy totally agree with both your comments! Celtic became a real threat when Commons came on! Looking forward to seeing him back to his best! Sammy needs to have a proper look at himself

Nonsense! Sammy has been great for the past few months. He had a bad game today but so did a few others. He was our best player in europa league!

Sammys been consistently gd n been a major reason we reversed the 15 point gap he wasnt at his best 2day but its 1 game dont start bein like the currant buns n turnin against ur players manager or club we r celtic supporters faithful thru n thru r we not?i no i am n wen we were so far off the pace i never once panicked thats wot keepin the faith is n in lennon we trust just b happy we hav a quality squad n there r games wen both commons n sammy will b important 4 us in the run in 2 the title n treble hail hail is1888 ps big forster was exceptional again 9 clean sheets in 13 games im sure they said on espn am i correct in sain that ed mate?its games like that 2day that make champions

Sammy is p**h! He doesn't look interested half the time! He's only scored about 5 goals in two seasons! Not good enough! Get him out!!

If commons gets match fit he will take sammys palce no probs, im actually hoping for this to happen, commons is gonna be vital in the run-in as was proven today!

He contributes a helluva lot 2 the team n has been in great form recently as many folk on here hav agreed if u asked nl id bet hed say the exact same he is a great team player n 2 the poster above u clearly havent watched celtics last 11 spl games n he did really well in europe 4 us as well go back 2 the dark side of the force we r celtic supporters faithful thru n thru is2999

Commons for sammy every time,even a half fit commons offers more to the team than sammy.

Funny how after a subs appearance of 30 odd mins so many people r ravin about commons n slaggin off sammy who has been excellent in our undefeated run n europa league campaign n yet quite a few posters were slaggin commons 4 the last few months sayin get rid of him as soon as we can that he was a whale n all this other rubbish how fickle people can b c instead o slaggin players wen theyre strugglin or goin thru a bad period or in sammys case had 1 average performance
in the last wot 15 games? at least n the whole team only got goin in the 2nd half we had gd possession but not a lot of penetration so dont single out 1 player even wee forrest who sparked in the 2nd half was average 1st half but as usual sammys an easy target 4 all u part time fans who really should go n support the dark side if thats how loyal u r 2 players hail hail IS1888 ps commons is a top player but sammy has been 4 us as well n both will make contributions 2 the treble it is a team game after all n it was strachan who said sammy is the best team mate anybody could wish 4 works 4 the team takes stick fae fans still always wants the ball n he creates space n openings 4 his teammates

21 Jan 2012 11:58:07
{Ed007's Note -

Team for St. Mirren:

Forster; Cha; Rogne; Mulgrew; Ledley; Brown; Wanyama; Ki; Forrest; Hooper; Samaras.

Subs: Zaluska; K Wilson; Matthews; Commons; Stokes; Izaguirre; McGeouch.

21 Jan 2012 09:11:57
mornin ed just a wee few word,is there any transfer
activity this mornin for us?,stef1967 {Ed007's Note - Not much happens with transfers at the weekend Stef except scouting/watching players.}