Celtic Rumours Archive May 01 2012

01 May 2012 22:23:35
Can anyone explain how that bill millers bid works? A incubated hybrid company that would be a newco but still retains its name and history? It makes no sense to me? Surely if it's a newco or any form of rangers are liquidated then it's goodbye to there history?

Campsie Tim

01 May 2012 22:02:06
Got sent a pic of possible away kit.Posted on sightings under "Is this real?"

Jungle Bhoy.

Yeah i seen that on TalkCeltic forums. I hope it's legit, it looks brilliant.

TerribleBeauty

01 May 2012 21:32:14
Hi Ed who was the guy with the syrup fig at parkhead, was it a wind up or what? {Ed007's Note - It was that bad NL moved seat!! I sent a pic to the LFC supporting Eds and told them it was one of their scouts watching Hooper. Others say it was Craig Whyte.}

Posted a pic on sightings of him,(doctored,of course).

Jungle Bhoy.

I was convinced it was Georios Traitorelli from that Paddy Power advert................what a syrup eh

Ed you were right to ask the Scousers site. Never seen anyone look more like a mickey mouser. Maybe John aldridge in the Liverpool rap video lol {Ed007's Note - It was the LFC supporting Eds I sent it to, I thought they had got Harry Enfield scouting for them now, which would explain a lot I suppose :-)

01 May 2012 21:11:59
Ed do you think Celtic will go for graig gordon if we can't get big Fraser and do you think he would be a good signing?
BigKev {Ed007's Note - Yes I think that will happen Kev. It could be a good signing if his injury problems are finally behind him, it is a bit of a gamble IMO. I would rather get Forster signed up.}

I think Forster could be holding out to see what happens with tim krul in the summer, rumours have him moving to Chelsea and some other clubs around Europe, perhaps Forster will go back to Newcastle to be number 1.
DannyBhoy

01 May 2012 20:11:11
Hi Edd, not a rumour, but have you any idea what kinda salary Mousa Dembele is on at Fulham? Do you think he could be a possible target for Celtic? Every time I see him he looks great and i've not seen too many clubs that are interested in him! I really think he is very underestimated. Hardly ever loses the ball and really good with both feet! {Ed007's Note - Fulham rejected a £10 million bid last year from Tottenham(??). Fulham's highest earners are on £40-45k a week and Dembele (who is out of contract next summer) is negotiating with them about an extension and a rise on his £35k a week current deal. I personally think he will move in the summer, even if Tottenham are still interested, they pay approx £65k a week to their top earners.}

Widney get out of bed fur that how much debt are tottenham in,if sky pull out they are all doon the swany..jc

01 May 2012 19:09:18
Just been on news one man arrested for damage to toilets at Parkhead on Sunday This is a disgrace I watched the video more than one face recognisable {Ed007's Note - The police are still investigating the incident, so that is only half the story you have posted.}

Glad to hear it Ed I can calm down now lol

I think that to be fair to the Police, they have stated that a lot of their officers had cameras attached to their jackets and were receording events. They intend to view the recordings and apprehend those guilty of causing offences.

ED007, I have not commented so far regarding damage to toilets. I have pal in police, and he had told me that police would be making arrests, he said some cops had those small cameras on their shoulders and this would be used to identify them, expect more arrests Timalloy
Ps see clown on t**tter that posted racist stuff against Bardsley also arrested
good to see police clamping down on all this.

Ive watched it too and i dont why the police have to investigate the incident ed,it clearly shows three or four police inside the toilet with the rankers fans and doing absoloutly nothing about there behaviour. {Ed007's Note - I meant they are still investigating the evidence, sorry.}

Tell the cops to ask their own officers who stood and watched, I'm sure they would make good witness'. Or of course they could look on youtube. It's a disgrace that these officer's didn't arrest these idiots at the time, maybe there was a handshake involved?

01 May 2012 18:05:01
Thai Tims on Scotland Today at about 1/4 past 6.

Jungle Bhoy.

They are training to play rangers next season

Superb cant wait to see them on thursday.

I'm a Rangers supporter and I watched the Thai Tims this morning on the news, they were brilliant, everything about them was honest.

01 May 2012 16:55:37
Judging by Neil Doncasters' spiel on Radio Shortbread last night , it would appear that the powers that be are likely to drop their breichs and bend over for Rangers , the cases of Crystal Palace and Plymouth Argyle are totally different to what is happening at Rangers , this is being done for financial reasons nothing else , there has never been a team allowed to walk straight back into the TOP division of a national football league , it can only happen here in Scotland , if Rangers are in danger of being relegated next season , the rules will be changed accordingly to keep them up , it is a total joke . {Ed007's Note -

01 May 2012 15:29:09
Well Whispering Sally has just shown that he clearly hasn't a clue what is happening.

He has stated that both offers consist of newcos but don't involve liquidation.

Eh, Ally ... are you just thick?

K.

It depends on your interpretation of thick............A newco running in tandem with an oldco (continuing to pursue a cva) does not amount to liquidation. Liquidation would arise should there be no purchaser, however if a newco is set up and the assets transferred into it then there would be nothing left to be pursued through liquidation.

To the first response.

This isn't going to happen. Any creditors agreeing to a CVA in the oldco will not allow the assets to be transferred into a newco. If the CVA were to fail, then there would be no assets for the creditors to go after.

K.

01 May 2012 14:20:36
Gary Hooper insists he wants to stay at Celtic and fulfil an ambition by playing in the Champions League.

The striker has been consistently linked with a move to Southampton, who had a bid for the player turned down in January.

With the Saints now bound for the English Premier League, speculation over Hooper’s future has again resurfaced.

The 24-year-old though says he wants to help his team reach the group stages of Europe’s premier competition.

"There are always rumours about that," Hooper said.

"But I have two years left on my contract, I am scoring goals and I am loving my football.

"There is a big chance for us to play Champions League football next season and that has been a personal ambition of mine for a long time.

"I loved playing in the Europa League this season and I think the game away to Udinese is one of the highlights of my career. I would love the chance to sample the Champions League now."

Hooper netted his 24th goal of the season in Celtic’s 3-0 win over Rangers at the weekend and says he gets a buzz from playing in Glasgow’s east end.

"I am happy playing for Celtic and yesterday just underlined that," he said.

"The crowd, the atmosphere, the feeling when you score at Celtic Park - I think it is amazing."

Jungle Bhoy.

Great stuff to hear from him, there have been points at this season when I thought to myself not fussed if he goes now! N I think it hasn't been his best season even tho he has scored 24 goals which is great ! Personally I think he will go and prob end up at Southampton due to his personal history and relationship with the manager there. If we got decent money for him n I think he's worth at least 8million push for 10mill tho! Overall great signing great biz deal and would have cash to go n get a new Bhoy! Different option too, remember lawell is a good business man too.
Cb {Ed007's Note - Reading have also been watching Hooper recently.}

01 May 2012 13:38:35
After Sundays superb performance and result, some time for some reflection..........
Rangers games?........we obviously love to win them but we obviously hate to lose them. What if Sunday was the last one for 3 seasons minimum?
According to Jorg Albertz, our Champions League prospects will suffer, just like Rangers in the 90s - due to lack of competition. Really? Going with the apparent logic that 4 'hard' games against them would be preparation for the CL - then what if we manage to win both qualifiers - 4 harder ties than Rangers? And actually make it into the Champions League where 6 games of the highest level await. Season upon season inprovement. Look at this years Europa League. How much improvement can we envisage from this young side? And I don't remember anyone telling me how weak the league was when they were gloating to 9 in a row.
The media are pulling out all the usual reasons why Scottish football will suffer without a 'strong' Rangers. (Obviously disregarding their fans threats of boycotts). Their arrogance knows no bounds, and has bankrupted both themselves and (almost) the rest of Scottish football for trying to chase them for years. You can trace the decline in standards of our league and national side right back to the 'Souness revolution'. Their REAL problems started in 2001 when a certain Martin O'Neill backed to the hilt by Dermot Desmond, showed that Celtic suddenly meant business. Murray feared the Rangers supports reaction to potentially being left behind, and embarked on the path that leads us to today. If Rangers survive, where will they play?
Considering their support have once again showed their true colours (we are the people....we are the victims....punish other clubs that we owe money to...we are too big...you need us....we are Scottish football...plus threats to SFA etc) the complete arrogance and inability of their masses to see what Rangers have done is staggering. (A bit of humility goes a long way lads). They must be punished, but I feel they may well be kept in the SPL - we will see.
Scottish football is at a once in a lifetime crossroads. Other clubs may well flourish without Rangers 'competitiveness' for a few years. Many fans may return to watching local teams - who knows? Celtic have changed their whole business model in recent years and our fans have accepted it. We will no longer sign big names in their prime - we are going to be, in effect, a selling club. Will the Rangers support accept their inevitable changes? Can they? Doubtful.
Big changes are on the way in Europe, with the CL being expanded to a rumoured 64 clubs - at the demise of the Europa League. This may not be the last time Motherwell or D.Utd qualify. It should become easier for us. Life goes on, football evolves - and Scottish football must evolve also.
The Rangers fans should accept the inevitable, and remember, life goes on........as the song said on Sunday 'When will we see you, again?'....if ever?...............kbt1978

Excellent post my friend..........green jhedi

Liked your post mate. I agree with all of it. with regards to punishing Rangers i agree they have to face the music. I though would rather see them stay in the SPL and take points deductions for the next 3 seasons because i love the old firm matches and i don't like the idea of them not being there for another 3-4 seasons working through the leagues. I say let there nexco play SPL next season with said sanctions and NEVER let them forget WE (the 11 other SPL teams) had them by the B**locks and forever hold it over them. Its just my opinion lads. I loved every minute of the game on sunday, the atmosphere was magic, i would miss it dearly.

Shuggybhoy67

Guys - most Rangers fans do realise the gravity of the situation and mis-management of finances that has gone on. On a personal level I can see that the appropriate punishment has to be meted out and that this will always be thrown back at us, newco or not. On the bright side, however, even if it takes a while our next tiltle be either be no 55 or no 1. I'm sure the latter will be celebrated just as much (if not more) than the former.....

Cheating to 9 in a row! Tarnished?

Cant see how it will become easier for the likes of motherwell etc to qualify. The co-efficients will only spiral downwards unless celtic reach the last 16 annually, at the moment, the rest of the spl arent ready to compete in the europa league, and probably wont be for a good few years. Difficult to keep it up!

01 May 2012 12:57:58
Just watched the Thai Tims singing the Celtic song on Sky sports news. Heartwarming

01 May 2012 10:50:42
All this talk of the champions league is contagious and mouth watering, however i really think we have a better shot in the Europa League at making an impact. Agree/ disagree?

Completely disagree

You want to test yourself against the best! {Ed007's Note - I said last year that the way things worked out, our Europa League section was of CL quality. We never qualified but we weren't humiliated as a lot expected. Getting into the CL group stages would be considered a success to me, then you just take it as it comes, look at Apoel Nicosia this year. We need to get back to the nights of teams fearing coming to CP and see how things go from there. Even the final is a total surprise, Barca aren't the Batfink of Europe after all.}

Could be very difficult to even qualify for cl there will be a lot of good teams in the 2nd round , teams like maribor and malmo

I would defo love to see us in the group stages of the CL without a doubt. A strong Centre forward and i'm still keen on a Centre half and hopefully we can get there. Mrs E

Yeah true but we are celtic we have neil lennon, we have learnt from our mistakes, we are a season/year older and i can see the quarters plenty of millions, wether we sign 1 2 or 3 experienced players or not its the Qs,.,.kbarry

Europa league IS our best chance of making an impact...BUT thats only because it an easier tournament due to lesser opponents than CL. Champions League is were we deserve to be because we are champions of our domestic league. We deserve our crack at it and the more experience we gain playing at that level the better chance we have of making an impact in it. Anyways we get to have our cake and eat it because if we fail in the CL qualifiers then we fall into the Europa League. We get a crack at both which is great. {Ed007's Note - We need to stop this 'settling' for a EL spot, we have the chance of CL football, let's go for it and see what happens, the money difference between the two competitions is huge for a start never mind the prestige. Last season we were in a CL quality EL group and done ourselves proud and were unlucky, were our opponents 'lower quality' than some of the CL teams this season? Not in my opinion anyway. Let's drop the negativity and concentrate on trying to gain entry into the CL, (I agree that champions of every country should be in it, with perhaps one qualifier between champions of the smaller nations to cut down numbers), if we fail to qualify then deal with the EL, until then though let's be aiming for the top tournament, as I said earlier Apoel Nicosia have shown this year what a decent well organised team can do, who's to say it's not CFC's year to do that? There are always surprises when you see the groups getting drawn and think to yourself 'What are they doing there'. With a couple of new signings, a bit of luck plus we are in the 'easier' champions route, then qualification is 'doable', nothing is certain but let's have a bit of faith, hope and pride instead of already looking at all the minuses involved and already settling for the lower level EL.}