Celtic Rumours Archive August 01 2012

01 Aug 2012 23:13:27
Decent footballing performance middle to front tonight, big vic is never ever a Centre half.
We need a clever experienced striker as much as a Centre half.

We were knocking the ball around well, left to right, in to out and so on but the movement from Hooper first half was shocking and got worse when he and Stokes were on. Countless times Forrest,Matthews,izaguirre and commons were looking to cross and we're flat footed and stationery in the middle. Its like they are expecting to be pinpointed in a crowded area by a wide man at full tilt with only a glance to assess options.

Need a striker who thrives on lateral movements and goes in behind.

The biggest bug bear for th fans I would imagine is were only a couple of pieces away from being a well drilled dangerous opponent on the continent, but its the same bloomin pieces as last year and the year before and it wouldn't cost the earth to rectify.

Must have been 45-50k attending tonight, first competitive game this season. The fans will keep our side of the bargain by coming to games,history shows this, so where's our reward. Five mil total for three players won't lead to a dodgy yorkshireman owning our club and its belongings will it?

No! Money out board

Jamie Mac(circa 70kpw cut too)

01 Aug 2012 21:42:05
Although we had plenty of opps to score yet again we're in deep trouble due to a sucker punch in defence. When is our leaders and I include dermot in this that lack of ambition will cost us. Been screaming out for about a decade for a commanding ch n here we r again. Fan support unquestioned, lawell???
Stevo Dundee

I think with another game under our belt, we will be comfortable enough to get through. Hooper has clearly been on an all inclusive holiday though. Looked miles overweight. Begs the question- if we needed some "proper" games to get sharper, why not play home and away vs Motherwell over the last couple of weeks? At least they would have had something to play for, and it would have been in both teams interest to have a couple of proper games. Just a thought.

What we needed the night was a striker like sutton hartson or V.O.H

It wasnt the defence fault for the goal it was just a unlucky deflection after a good save

We are not in deep trouble we won 2-1, this is a team 18 competitive games ahead of us and it showed for parts of the first half and in our slack finishing when we caught up with the pace of the game ,yes it will be tricky next week but we should be good enough to go through , i do agree we need an experienced cb and we need another cf who offers something different to stokes and hooper .,,,,deep river bhoy

We would all love to splash out on new players and its clear that a bit of cash for a quality CF and CB would make a massive difference. However i think the way that Lawell has run the club and financed Lenny's signing whilst all the teams around us have imploded then you can't really question the guy. I feel safe with him running the club and unfortunately this is the new reality. Rather be in our shoes than 'The Rangers/Sevco/Club12'
CBP

Deep trouble? I was under the impression we are 2-1 up at the half way point?

Mikey Bhoy

If we had the two players we have been begging for we would have won comfortably, a Central defender and a big powerful striker and I think we would have run riot

2 players we have been begging for? We will never need to beg for players! Come on bhoys!...I know the daily rags try to fill your mind with negativity every morning but it aint half as bad as they tell you!

Mikey Bhoy

First of all well done to the bhoys, good result lets finish them off in the second leg!

That being said i dont get the logic in only buying players if we get past helsinki, we need to improve the squad the defense is poor its as simple as that, everyone can see it. If we stick to the defensive players we have we'll lose alot of goals in my humble opinion.
Buy the fecking players we need now and stop stalling and penny pinching im sick of it!!

Again you are having a go at peter lawell and yes he does have a first name, first game and a win , yes we need a centre half and a striker but so does every team in europe , most of the quality will not want to come to spl so peter lawell has a very difficult job and i for one thinks he does it very well but i suspect he could get us puyol and you still would lambast the man

Don't think PL is responsible for signings.Cash is made available at the start of every season.We seem to have managers,including Lennon who don't see a CB as a priority.I agree with most posters on here.I think a CB is a must but we'll see who Lennon buys.

I stick by my original post and if you don't think we're in trouble then look at our away record for a start. Your confident we'll keep a clean sheet then? Spare me the comments about ending up like that other mob as well by spending money. I'm not asking for £50 million here. Ivan Ramis was/is available for about £3m, he'd shore up that defence quick time. NL has stated since the start of this year that there was money to be spent then changes tune and toes party line about having to sell first. Fed up of it mate. A mix of quality scouted young talent with a couple of experienced players what we need. Even if we had to sell why not get rid of Ki when we had the chance, there's your money for a top defender. No, as usual we'll try and get through by the skin fo our teeth and then what? A loan signing too late to bed in and we get knocked out in last qualifier? Wake up ffs. Steveo Dundee

IMO PL is doing a great job with Celtic and financing NL. I think our manager knows his priorities as he had signed a CB pre-season but the polish lad got a bad injury and the deal fell thru. As for Ki while he is away on olympic duty I don't believe any deals can be done. Hbhoy

01 Aug 2012 20:19:44
Hey Ed's and Bhoys!
Not sure if ye can post this...but just to let ye know im watching the game on usagoals on their 3rd link and its a perfect streaming!the bhoys are on top but the fin's look quick on the break away and hard to break down 0-0 all nearing half time!

Hail Hail!

I also used that link. was a great match and shame about the goal but celtic played great just apart from final ball in some cases.

Sami and brown and matthews played amazing tonight

01 Aug 2012 18:58:22
team to face HJK Helsinki: Forster; Matthews, Wanyama, Mulgrew, Izaguirre; Forrest, Brown, Ledley, Samaras; Commons; Hooper
Subs: Zaluska, Stokes, McCourt, Kayal, Lustig, Rogne, F. Twardzik

01 Aug 2012 17:52:17
just wonderin has embdy seen this team playin ? r they a physical team or a passin team ? wit cin we expect fae them the nte only really know theyv got a hearts reject up front thats it

gunniebhoy

01 Aug 2012 15:34:13
Game is on premier sports tonight lads
Conor67

01 Aug 2012 13:35:33
Does anyone know any pubs in Glasgow that are showing the game tonight? It's my birthday today so out for dinner and can't make it along to the match.

Many thanks,
Linnie88 (getting auld) {Ed007's Note - Happy Birthday Linnie. I'm sure a few guys will know a decent pub to go to, I think The Hoops Bar at the Gallowgate will have it on and usually has live music as well.}

Linnie whit ah man ye share yur auld bifday wae wee pat 1 aug,
kwality son

Happy birthday Linnie mate.Hope you have a good one.Not sure who would be showing it,sorry!

Jungle Bhoy.

Cheers Ed :)

Does anyone know if Failte's will be showing the game?

Rhoderick Dhu at the start of Waterloo St showed the Ajax game and was full of Celticfans when I was in or the Admiral bar just along from it is a Celtic stronghold........DH

Brazen bud
FozzY

Tennents on Byres Road.

K-Dot.

PROBS ON ONEILS MERCHANT CITY

Tennants in Byres Rd

Molly malones

01 Aug 2012 12:30:35
Right.We all set Bhoys and Ghirls? Last i heard there was around four thousand tickets left for tonight.Brilliant,lets get the place rocking tonight as i think we really could influence matters on the pitch.Seasoned internationals have left Parkhead stunned by the atmosphere,Footballing royalty,maldini,Eto,Ronaldhino and more have walked away eulogising on what they witnessed.My own favourite? YNWA v Barcelona,stunning, and still brings a lump to my throat every time i see it.Even O'Neill looks stunned on the clip.In the last few years,thanks to the Green Brigade,we have added to our song book,but tonight, around kick off,lets return to what our support are famous for.YNWA,show the Finnish players they dont just play our team on these nights,they have to take us all on.In lennon we trust,Time to step up and show our players what, and who, they play for.We could make this a very special night,im sure we are up for it!..........green jhedi

I agree re:YNWA against Barca and it had more meaning that night due to the Madrid bombings that day.If i remember correctly the Barca players all said they were really touched by the support that night.Let's raise the roof tonight and show the world Scottish football hasn't died with Gers and let them see we are more united than ever.Good luck to Lenny and the Bhoys tonight.I'm hoping for a 2-0 win.

Jungle Bhoy.

BRING BACK THE THUNDER

Linnie88

I agree with both your posts mate - but i'm not going to bother posting anything regarding the DR and their negativity. Lets stay positive for tonight.
I'm taking the missus to the game - and am genuinely excited for her to see a REAL atmosphere at Celtic Park. I cannot wait for YNWA and her reaction to it. Hopefully the Bhoys will put on a good show and get the right result.
I'm going for 2 nil (though we want 3!) Hooper and Ledley on the scoresheet - and a BIG performance from Samaras.......c'mon the hoops!..............kbt1978

Even though other games have given us more glory for me the best I have felt paradise was the Valencia game which we lost on pens. Valencia had an outstanding side with Ayala,Gonzalez, aimar etc.

The left back carbone was some player, he was having to whistle for the ball that night,literally, such was the noise in the stadium.

I do have a point and this is it- in the mestalla we chased thin air all ALL night, we were being outclassed to say the least but big frasers dad,ran, pulled at least two out the top corner allied with numerous other exemplary saves also. this was easily,very easily his best performance in his career.

Two Weeks later and pretty much the same line ups took to the paradise turf with the only noticeable difference,before kick off, being the setting. Realistically we thought we would be beaten as frasers dad couldn't play so well again.

Well he didn't but the fans stepped up to the plate, singing was heard from minute one til the death.

We done this and the players took that much from it that we outplayed a superior side, and were only a missed pen by the king away from going through without the need of the shootout lottery.

Whilst to no avail in the end up its an illustration of what THE BEST FANS IN THE WORLD can do, I strangely find it hard to have any regrets about that particular evenings outcome because its the greatest feeling I've ever had sitting in amongst the greatest.

Helsinki will struggle if the place is booming big time

Come on bhoys and ghirls, let's make more of these precious memories. It is after all an obligation we have to those before and after us which needs to be done.

Over and Over

Jamie Mac(sees himself hoarse tomorrow)

Well said GJ - can't wait for tonight.

K-Dot.

01 Aug 2012 02:34:28
Ed just a couple of players I'd like to have other opinions on as I wouldnt mind any of them.pulling on the hoops Sebastian squallaci of arsenal? Cairney of hull city? The captain hibs had last season? Dunno his name good cb? John sutton? Jon daly? And mackay Stevens?

No offence bud but this is why John Parks gets paid to scout players. Mackay-Stevens is the only won i could even think about improving us. Squillachi is on a mint at arsenal so I bypassed him. Daly and Sutton are simply nowhere near good enough for Celtic and we have to be aiming higher. Cairney again is little more than average.

Only one i'd take is Mackay-Steven

Milk turns quicker than daley
john sutton good player bt not celtic good
mackay steven has great potential but would leave him at united for another season
dont no too much about the rest but thats just my opinion.

MurphyBhoy

Squallaci - please do not go near Bhoys, I am a Gunner and all my family are Celtic daft, I like to keep up with your news transfers etc, trust me squallaci would not make your defence better at all, hope we maybe meet in the CL group stages :)

Is Russel still on the radar?

01 Aug 2012 09:20:52
Seen a couple of papers are running good news stories about Scottish football, reporting how the £13m per year tv deal is a massive cash boost....I then click on the records website and they're going with 'Massive Cash Blow' as SPL lose £17m on TV deal! just typical of that rag to put a negative spin on everything. The lost revenue equates to less than £285k per year for each SPL club, its barely going to have major repercussions and cause the doomsday scenario we have all been warned about. I am sure every single club will manage just fine

We really should be making our feelings towards this toilet paper known. Traynor,Jackson and the rest of the ibrox mob that write for this bog roll dont even try to hide their love for the Goven mob. we should set dates where no one buys this ars3 wipe

I totally agree, the daiy rag is nothing short of shocking, I will never buy this piece of garbage again. They have even adjusted their site to accommodate, what do u call them again?ehh rankers

The DR are being particularly negative ever since the whole thing with that football club they used to support.

Totally agree, why don't we hit them where it hurts most, in the pocket. Every Celtic fan should NOT buy this Excuse for a rag that openly displays nothing short of cronyism, to a shower a cheats on a daily basis.

Hit them in the pocket in the hope the likes of Jackson, Traynor et al, will be shown there jotters as they will be surplus to requirements.

I am no expert but what I can take out of it is this.

The deal is 17m less over 5 years.

An additional £3m will have to be paid to the SFL during this period meaning £20m less in total.

£20m over 5 years amounts to £4m a season.

Divided between 12 clubs this would be about £333,000 each.

For Celtic this would be the equivalent of one squad players wages per season. Celtic have already trimmed their squad to the tune of upwards on 7 squad players.

For other clubs this would be more severe as the smaller ones could be looking at 5 + 1st team players.

HOWEVER, the tv money has always been carved up so as Celtic and Rangers get the largest share. With Rangers deceased, unless their chunk is going to one other club, then the impact will be a lot less.

Therefore, for Celtic you are probably looking a no real impact, for other clubs it will be a bit of a hit but one that could be made up easily by getting an additional 500 or less through their gates on matchday.

My conclusion - Rangers death will have little impact on tv revenue.

£285k is a lot for most SPL clubs! maybe not for Celtic

J

Ha Ha - not only id there a reduction in monies but the reduced value would have been much less if a number of Rangers games weren't included. As Mr. Keevins would say it's "smell the coffee" time 'bhoys'

They've taken 5 rangers games, hardly dominating the airwaves?

Or should that be polluting the airwaves? Lol

Jamie Mac

Think about the money all these SPL clubs will save in policing, stewards, damage to stadia etc without them!

Then take a listen at the hate filled songs that were ringing round Brechin on Sunday and spare a thought what all these small towns and some villages will endure when the bears that ruined Barcelona come calling!

Dont,buy.thisrag,letthem,goto,govan