Celtic Rumours Archive September 18 2011

18 Sep 2011 23:51:16
Cannot believe half of the people on this site call themselves Celtic supporters. U want most of the team gone just because we lost ffs get a grip. theres 31 league games to go. Kelvin wilson has 1 bad games and us want him sold. Part time supporters know nothing about Celtic or football

I agree wilson has had 1 bad game and has looked good but its time for Lenny to go his decision making is very poor. I love the guy but he is not up to the job and those of you who think he is are deluded.

Wilson is a decent player and when the dust settles we will all realise he carried an injury for the whole game and probably should not have played in the first place. Now the player wont say this because it will make the manager look bad so do we believe as he had one bad game he is a duffer? No lets be reasonable and support KW. As for Lenny, well this is far more complex. This wasn't just one game the nature of the capitulation and the fact that we were very lucky to score one fluke goal and Rangers had a very good goal (said through gritted teeth) disallowed because of a bad refereeing/linesman decision. The real score on the balance of play was more like 5-1 or 6-2 if you even out the woodwork strikes. The question is not about Lenny being good enough as with every big challenge he and his backroom staff fail (lets not forget them in all of this) but who the heck we get to replace him? Also how do Celtic as a reasonable and caring employer "can" a guy who has literally put his life on the line for the Club he loves. its a real problem. Either Lenny walks (unlikely) or he gets a chance he doesn't really deserve in footballing terms at least to prove he can manage. The issue with us as supporters is if he fails (likely) it will cost us another season in the wilderness and a fortune financially. Personally I would stick with him until he walks the plank on his own...or who knows miracles do happen maybe he can pull it off even yet. Lenny has proved time and again he is a strong man. Lets see if he is strong enough to ask for help and sort out this mess. Sopot Celt

No doubt NL lack of experience is letting us down...the team is so disjointed. I was full of high hopes at beginning of season with team bonding trips to Aussie etc but for me, NL has to takesome blame that the team isn't bonding and has no consistency ! I beginning to wonder if wee Izzy is the driving force & not Brown, NL or his backroom stafff

A just theink lennon is doing a martin oneil and losing the plot, i cant justify him playing samaras and loovens they are imposters, always at fault in big games, if he was gona play 2 up front he shoulda played bangura if he though stokes couldnt last the 90 mins at least bangura would be hungry for goals, as for loovens he was at fault for the goal in madrid and dun the same thing yesterday for jellybellys goal, and a dont know why he was doing the worm for laffertys goal, al he had to do was stand still, ad lafferty woulda had nowere to go, instead he flew infront of wilson and showed lafferty the way to go, they are not good enough for celtic and a cant c why neil lennon cant c that, get the 2 of them to france


Stephenmiller1967

That is their own opinion if they want one sold and they can moan and nag about things can you honestly say you havent done the same ? We were all embarrassed with yesterday result lets not argue among ourselves we are better than that plenty of time left in the season but we all must question some of lennons choices. sammy instead of stokes dropping ledley and forrest when they are on form we are all celtic lets keep the faith !

Its the manner in the way we got turned over ,as for lenny no times up now before it gets worse.

Mate people are entitled to their opinion and its patronising to say that anyone who doesnt share yours is a part time supporter or in some way less of a fan. For the record I'm not after Lennon's departure and still believe we need to build rather than break up the team. That said faihfully supporting Celtic is not the same as blindly agreeing with everything that goes on and there are a few who need to be shipped out while Lenny himself needs to up his game tactically. regardless of how you or I feel, these guys are letting off steam after an absolute howler yesterday. They are paying customers and are entitled to do so. What's more, thats what the site is all about! Paul

Paul i think you spot on the page is here and we use it to ask questions that sometimes need to be asked - boss must up his game and stop changing team all time for what seems tactical - play to strengths keep it simple and if we do simple things well we got better chance, we need one hell of a run of games now to show we still a team , one week center back next left mid to left back, no wonder people not on top of their game, settled side like last year play our game at home and tight away,sounds too easy? r#ngers only proved yet again when teams come at us we dont cope great keeper wont command his box,back 4 unsettled and never same, as midfield is too, while we keep having to watch sami instead of stokes and bangura yet to get start,after last season i was sure we'd start well with settled side but now we see all these changes some forced with injuries some a bit strange, rant over sorry ed..

davybhoy not blind faith {Ed007's Note - No problem Davy, rants are always welcome.}

I agree ffs one game an we are all trowing ourselves off cliff edges like lemmons..we need to calm down ..leny did make mistakes in the line up an i gaurentee next time we play the huns hooper an stokes will be front runners mulgrew will be in the center with wilson. mathews will be right back an the morrocan will be LB unless emilio is fit ....just gonna have to dust ourselves down an take it like a man ..its only braggin rights ..if it was the league then it would be different ,but there are still 31 games to go an i for 1 still think we will win the league HH ..an we are all neil lennon ......

18 Sep 2011 22:50:08
defence was terrible but its only first old firm game of the season ffs keep the faith bri67

Keep the faith? We've been keeping the faith for 3 miserable years and i'm frankly sick of being runnners up. NO PASSION,NO DRIVE AND WORSE OF ALL NO HEART.

18 Sep 2011 21:26:03
i know david moyes very well as i work along side his brother kenny and david has never said he would like the celtic job.

I have spoken to him a few time's in regards to celtic and the scotland job and he said " he would not go to scotland as they could not afford him and the same for the old firm.

the only reason he would go is if he had no job in england and no one wanted him.

so as he has a very good reputation in england i dont see that happening.

i for one aint happy with lennons decisions but the board wont even think about another manager untill things get really bad.

You lose an Old Firm game and you want rid of your gaffer? Get a f***ing grip mate. Neil Lennon has got you playing nice Football and he has brought some good players to your Club.

Knee jerk reaction! BIG TIME!

p.s HAHA

18 Sep 2011 19:27:37
lennon will be replaced at the end of the season decisions like not replacing mulgrew today are shocking.

i can see celtic trying to get david moyes as he has always said he would be keen on the job, done a great job at everton with no money and he probably feels he cant take everton any further

Why would moyes come to the spl?get off the glue,our league is stinkin

Y wait till end of season I'm paying 500 pound season 4 my book don't want 2b watching this 4 another 6 months

500 for ourselves and another half of that for our kids .... to watch that rubbish !!! I'm sorry my loyalty has given up tonight ... much like the Celtic team over the last 18 months.........shower of s**te bags !!!

Sorry but it's nowhere near half of 500 for a child's book so obvs ur talkin s**t

Paddy

David moyes wouldnt come near scottish football, his next job is man utd

If Celtic win the league he won't be replaced.

Today was a shocking performance and all round bad day at the office. His decisions in terms of team selection and substitutions were shocking but he can only learn from this and regardless of who he picks the players themselves need to turn up and too many of our key players today were shocking in the 2nd half.

It's the first team he's taken a doing off Rangers (IMO the score in 3-1 game flattered Rangers but today on the 2nd half they deserved to win by at least a couple) and I think he'll bear this in mind next time we play at Ibrox.

IMO it's time he stops playing the Sammy wildcard and goes with what works for Celtic - 4-4-2. We did this at Parkhead last year and won 3-0 going on about 7 or 8. Cautious play doesn't work with the crop of players he picked today and to be honest most of the players we have available.

It's something that needs to be remedied in the January window or with a Bosman if possible. A quality CB is needed big time, and if we're going to play cautiously Ki needs to sit out the game in place of an experienced defensive midfielder as he's quality going forward but too often missing in defensive games.

As for Moyes he'd be in the running but not sure we could afford him.

I like lennon i do but i just dont see him doing much with celtic hes to inexperienced i just dont think hes getting the full potential out of the team what team talk did he do the day 2-1 up and lose the game 4-2 come on

18 Sep 2011 19:08:43
Lennon needs to resign we are rank. Rangers could probably play the reserves and beat us. We need to concentrate on our own team rather than worry about rangers, HMRC and something which might never happen.

About time someone tells the truth. Well said mate.

Well said m8 tax man is only investigating rangers if they deem that rangers were acting honestly then they will be in a better position than us.

18 Sep 2011 18:28:47
Badr El Kaddouri is possibly the worst left back in the world, so glad you lot signed him.

GovanFR

Good enough to beat the best goalie in Europe from 40 yards !!!!!!!!! trot on ya moron !!!!!

To be fair i dont rate him either, nothing on izzaguire

Hes also a wind up merchant and a thug.he took a few swings at naismith then was flashing his imaginery card at the ref on numerous occasions.scottish football has a bad enough record for bookings/sending offs without any encouragement!!

Well he put one by seemly one of the best goalies in the world

40 yards are you blind. McGregor made a mistake simple but I could've hit a harder shot than that. He also got done for Lafferty that led to the first goal and his header back was awful.

GovanFR

He is better than your god awful papac ya lunatic

He is better than your god awful papac ya lunatic
^^ your the lunatic papac has been rangers most consistent player for 2 seasons now lol

Better than Papac ,mate wot have you been smoking

18 Sep 2011 17:56:28
Brendan Rodgers next manager. Dont want NL to go but if he does...

kev88

He would be a good manager but would be stupid. To leave EPL for the SPL

CelticBhoy1967

If the neil lennon doubters get their way it wont make a blind bit of difference as the board wont give the next man the financial backing required

18 Sep 2011 17:01:36
Team were shocking , no passion , no drive etc, WTF that was the first team , rangers out played us brown should go I've been saying that 4.2 long now

Lennon must go......

We were shocking & 2 goals in it (should have been more) but it wasn't. Just shows the weakness in their ahem team. There soon to be lone striker missed goals I would have scored and they are defo there for the picking if NL can keep consistent and stop the nerves ! like the 4.2 subtle.

Charlie mulgrew should have been replaced .i could see he was going to be sent off 20 mins before he was. what concerns me is lenny and his staff didnt see it coming

Nerves ?? lol we are only in Sept lmao nerves just wait when the tough gets going... celtic go missing ....
get serious... rangers could have scored 7 and should have......

WTF is the deal with Brown. There were 9 players worse than him in Celtic jerseys today. Get off his back and get real FFS

The deal with brown is,he cost a serious amount of cash and does f all,we can all run about kicking folk and winding them up,doesnt make us footballers tho

Thought Brown put in a shift to be honest, great set-up for Hooper !

You crazy? broony was only player 2 turn up 1st half then was strugglin!! did u see that pass? no other creative pass on offer that i seen!!

Im a rangers fan n even though a h8 scott brown i cant believe theres people on here slating him for sunday. people need to realise that kayal struggles every old firm game n ki hardly got a kick of the ball brown was better than the 2 of them put together

To the post above, so true.
And a dont think kayal or ki seemed interested. Looks like they want away :L

18 Sep 2011 16:14:49
Anyone else agree that O'Neill should be the next manager

CelticBhoy1967 {Ed007's Note - NO!!}

O'Neill is celtic's best choice but he will also want money to spend give me another name who would do better than O'Neill {Ed007's Note - MON's time has gone, his style of football is outdated now and his stock has fell drastically in footballing circles. Remember when he was being touted to replace AF? Do you think he is still on that list? West Ham going for Fat Sam instead of MON sums it up for me. I'd rather see the board look at Paul Lambert, but I can't see that happening either. Any decision on the manager will be made at the end of the season anyway unless there is a complete Mowbray meltdown, which I doubt will happen.}

Good point. Paul lambert sounds a good option stupid if he came due to the situation of Scottish football but I'd like to see us go for a young manager like Chelsea with a little bit of experience (unlike Lennon)

CelticBhoy1967

Ed- Not very often i don't agree with what you say but if MON's outdated style of football was enough to beat a stronger Rangers than the 1 we played today then I'm all for him coming back.

NL needs to be more vocal when on touchline, for me he's sitting on his hands when players are needing guidence.

Lenny needs a new goalie, Physical CB and to get rid of Brown. Why is Ledley dropped?

This is the biggest year in Celtic's history for the CL money but again we'll let them lot of the hook.

We don't have any finances to improve the squad either.

Sell naming rights to Celtic Park, not what we want but bring much needed revenue.

Richybhoy {Ed007's Note - How many years ago was MON's successes against Rangers? Football has changed and moved on. Why not bring back Gordon Strachan?}

ED - fair play to your comments (in general) but to say football has moved on from MON's style - WTF - were have we gone Gordon Strachan- we didnt like him - Tony Mowbray - Obviously not _ Lennon _ Much the same obviously not !! Since O'Neill left us we've been getting embarrassed by that mob what's your point.... where's your proof .. i like many a thousand fans have spent thousands on watching Celtic over the last few years and for what ... disappointment.... and all because you say O'Neills methods are outdated and footballs changed ... you're kind of right , it has changed because now we get pumped regularly in the league and Europe, we have no leadership, we have no guidance and lastly i'd take O'Neill back in a heartbeat. I bet there's thousands like me {Ed007's Note - Gordon Strachan done a good job at CFC. I loved CFC under MON, but I doubt him coming back would work out, Aston Villa are still recovering from his time at the club and that is a year he has been out of football, that doesn't happen without good reason.}

I'd take MON back in a minute. Anyone think he'd have the team as disorganised as we are is not on the same planet. and ed who are we kidding with his stock has fallen, who cars, it's not like we can go for those at the top of the game and that would include Lambert. At this point n time we need someone who can win ibread and butter games against a bankrupt Rangers side. all that means is some one wo can organise a side who won't be bullied. Whatever else anyone thinks about a style of fotball you think is outdated he would not be slipping meekly to a 4th title defeat, using zonal marking or employing the likes of Samaras. Paul {Ed007's Note - I'm not kidding anyone. MON's reputation is nowhere near where it was. That is why he is not in a job and has been out of football for over a year. MON would also be looking for a lot more in wages than Paul Lambert would command, and MON can't work with in financial constraints. When Randy Lerner refused him more money he left AV in the lurch. This is the same MON that sanctioned Balde's mega money new contract and also agreed that AV should pay Reo-Coker £85k a week. I have nothing against MON, he gave me some of the greatest days of my life as a supporter under his tenure, I just don't think it would work out if he returned.}

Martin o neil would be great but couldnt see him coming back but 1 think that will happen is if neil lennon doesnt win the league then he will get sacked and its ashame cause i like him hes like a celtic ledgend but hes not got enough experience which is costing him

Ed the point i was making about MON's stock down south is that if anyones stock is in an way high we wont get him. I think Lambert has already stated he wouldnt take the Celtic job. I perosnally dont care how MON's regarded elsewhere. I believe he could do a job though do agree that sometimes its best not to go back. As for not being able to work on a budget, i'd say its more a case of not being willing to. MON served his apprenticeship successfully with clubs such as Wycombe. i think he had high ambitions for Villa and knew they were likely to fall further behind. All of that said, I'd much sooner Lenny learned from today and went on to become the success he deserves to be having stuck with it after last season. He need to learn fast though! {Ed007's Note - I think we are agreeing but coming from different angles. If MON did come back I would obviously back the move, but I would be extremely apprehensive. I actually think he might have had enough of management, just my own opinion. He doesn't seem to be even linked/chasing any jobs or potential jobs. I have total respect for MON, I just wouldn't want a failed return and see him have a 'stained' reputation, like Kenny Dalglish's time at Celtic Park with some fans. Why not just keep backing NL and see what happens over the season?}

Sorry ed its not often we disagree but i would love to see mon back he is a winner and knows how to put out a winning team ,people were saying his style was outdated when he came up the first time (just a long ball merchant)but a hatfull of titles and cups and that never to be forgotten day in seville later ,and they had changed their minds. fat sally out smarted nl both tactically and motivational and thats not good enough .i posted after after the st johnstone game that we should be looking at our own problems and not rangers and was shot down ,i repeat neil lennon is not good enough to be celtic manager,im sorry i would love him to be a success but if you cant motivate a team to beat ict to win the league and fat sally shows you up tactically the you are not good enough.fab1 {Ed007's Note - No problem fab1, everyone is entitled to their opinion.}

Ps ed how much money did mon spend when he had success with wycome and leicster ? {Ed007's Note - How many years ago was that? You forgot Norwich as well where he walked out because the chairman wouldn't spend £750K on Dean Windass. You do know he had agreed to leave CFC in 2003 to take over as Leeds manager before Peter Risdale left Leeds, and since has said that it was CFC's fault because of his contract? After his spending spree at CFC he went on to spend £120 million at AV.}

A lot of people forget mon inherited, larson, majalby, lambert, petrov, macnamara, lubo. Etc. Even just taking larson out his team what would he have achieved?
Leave the past inthe past unless he can turn the clock back for the guys above plus hartson, sutton, thomson, joos, agathe and a few others as well, oh and get them all to sign contracts for a maximum of about 12 grand a week.
Stop living in the past

18 Sep 2011 16:09:33
Ed back the trnasfer rumours - who would we like to see in January. For me defence has to be priority...centre-half & Goalkeeper - Chrissy {Ed007's Note - Still say the same as I have, we need a big physical CF. There was a distinct lack of any Plan B again today.}

Losing their nerve is still a big issue as well IMO - Chrissy

A big strong CF you say ED, do you want Lafferty, no we wont go there again LOL {Ed007's Note - Bolt you!!!! lol}

That's very kind but we don't need anymore deadwood on the wages bill & think you will need him when Jelavic & Davis go in January....

Ed - plan B comes down to the manager not the goalkeeper - you gotta be joking me man. Lennons substitutions and tactics were an absolute disgrace. I've been one of his biggest fans but hey ho he gotta go !! {Ed007's Note - Where did I mention the GK????? I said we needed a CF, are you reading things or just imagining stuff and answering it?? I have no idea what you are talking about.}

Sorry Ed, was replying to the initial post and your reply at the same time. I got it wrong. I'm just absolutely gutted tonight, still proud as hell to be a Celtic man but embarrassed by the way we played.

Gary {Ed007's Note - It was a very poor performance Gary.}

18 Sep 2011 15:00:00
Why is Forster rated so highly by NL? Shocker of of a keeper. Can't catch nor can he save. get rid.

Not sure if we have got what it takes this year. again

Totally agree, we need goalie, could not catch a cold. Cannot believe we lost that, what happened at half time, shocking second half

Was it not the gers goalie who caused a goal , I blame the defence. Laffertey , Jelavic , Naismith and Davis totally outplayed us , we got what was coming last year we were lucky this year we have been found out ......

You were lucky to be 2-1 up at half time greggsy gave you it , good hooper goal that is all , second half men against boys ...
We welcome the chase
Ps play kayal / brown all the time

How can you come on our site and ask us to play Kayal and Brown when you have Edu?

Men against boys, funny how we pumped you last season in our fixtures. Bawbag

Richybhoy

18 Sep 2011 14:51:50
why drop ledley and forrest when they both scored last week and lennon should not play sami cause hes not evan a good player

18 Sep 2011 14:29:31
FACT! Fraser Forster has played for Celtic for 16 months and has only caught 11 crosses. For a giant he should be ashamed of himself.

Check this stat out. It is a fact.

I really am not surprised by that stat, what i am surprised by is the fact he has caught 11. was at the game and saw that coming, unfortunately our management team didnt. N.L was sitting on his a**e for most of the game with no idea yet again how to change a game. we were really fortunate to only concede 4, i dont know where celtic go from this as we need a GK, 2 x CB and a creative midfielder but we all know that wont be happening. :-(

Totally agree about foster the guy for being 6'7" or whatever doesn't command his box at all he's a big dumplin should have been charging at lafferty instead of standing on his line lennon looked as if he couldn't be bothered tbh every time the camera was on him he was sitting down looking disinterested. sick to death of these managers who cant make changes when things aren't working

18 Sep 2011 14:26:42
Didnt deserve it. Poor 2nd half

kev88

You didnt deserve to only lose by two, quite lucky really. Could easily have been 7 or 8, with a perfectly legal goal chalked of too.

Lennon must STAY.

Did not deserve it, what planet are you on, let me be adamant about this, if NL had not created the ROI link we would be screaming for him to go,
. {Ed007's Note - What ROI link?}

18 Sep 2011 14:24:23
Really disapointed with the result today.
Some players have to look at themselves and be honest (must do better).
Team choice wrong i.m.h.o., Lennon going with Sammy another mistake.

We lost midfield battle in second half. Looked too tired to compete. If Loovens header had gone in we would be discussing a great win for Celtic. Weak clearance for second goal, poor marking for second goal, poor defending for third goal and no defending for last goal. Lennon knew we had weakness there before transfer window shut

18 Sep 2011 13:09:05
HOOPERMAN I love you!

18 Sep 2011 12:03:40
hi first time posting on this site. going for a hoops win today ,even tho samaras is in the team, but hope that theres no repeat of last seasons off pitch behaviour, lets hope the punters and papers are talking about a cracking match and not the drivel they would rather write about. great site btw. {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site and thanks. I agree with you, let's all hope that it is the football that we are talking about.}

18 Sep 2011 08:54:22
Any team news for both sides today Ed?

GaryBhoy88 {Ed007's Note -
Celtic: Forster; Mark Wilson, Kelvin Wilson, Loovens, El Kaddouri; Brown, Kayal, Ki, Mulgrew; Hooper, Samaras

Subs: Zaluska, Matthews, Forrest, Bangura, Stokes, Wanyama, Ledley}

18 Sep 2011 10:01:12
Good Morning Ed . Finally Celtic have done the correct thing a banned this so called paper . Lets all hope for a very long time .

TamBhoy1974 {Ed007's Note - Let's hope so, and the fans. Any decent Rangers fan should also see this as stirring trouble and animosity, but hey, it's NL so that's OK.}

I'm a rangers fan and totally agree, the DR is just trying to further incite the NL hate campaign.

18 Sep 2011 04:49:22
Have the record taken the article off their website? I read it there yesterday but when I went to make a complaint it was gone and I couldnt add it. Does anyone have a link to it online? {Ed007's Note - Just e-mail to complain, you don't need a link to the article.}