Celtic Rumours Archive October 14 2013

14 Oct 2013 13:41:32
ed: as it is international week and boring how about a debate o players who were at the club at the wrong time (ie we were rubbish as a time at the time) I get the ball rolling
1/Tommy Coyne
2/Darius Dzakenowski
3/Darius Wdobczyck

I liked all three of above, what about
:Martin Hayes(arsenal&1st, top div scorer)
:Stuart Slater(1.5M record sold for half)
:Tony Cascarino(well Cascarino), ., .kbarry

This is sort of the opposite of what you're saying because we definitely weren't rubbish at the time, but thought juninho could have been so much more than he turned out to be. i'm from the boro and I grew up watching him at the riverside and still to this day believe he's one of the best players the epl has ever seen. he was in the twilight of his career when he signed for us though so I guess it's to be expected.

suppose there's an argument for robbie keane here? the team lennon inherited from mowbray was appalling and he still scored for fun, would have loved him during the MON or even strachan days.

Im sure we swaped Cascarino for Tom Boyd. What a brilliant deal that turned out to be!

joeshmo1888

14 Oct 2013 17:26:20
Whit aboot the 2 half-wits Macari signed:
Carl Muggleton
Wayne Biggin's

Did that polish boy dzakenowski not score 4 against partizan if I remember correctly?

Piere, Di Canio, cadette

Aye Jackie scored 4. Think we won the game 5-4. Got put out on away goals. A guy wi tights on scored late on for them to knock us out if I remember right.

Joeshmo1888

If I understand the OP correctly, the question is about great players playing in poor Celtic teams. You would have to put Paul McStay top of that list - his loyalty to the Club probably prevented him reaching his true potential elsewhere.

TomTheTim

P.S. I would also have liked to get Lubo a few years earlier than we did.

For me it's got to be Paul McStay. One of the most gifted, loyal and committed guys to ever pull on the hoops, unfortunately for several years surrounded by guys with a fraction of his talent. Also endured clueless managers like Brady and Macari.

Hail to the Maestro!
CBP

It must be happy days if this is what we are discussing :)

Fran

John Collins and Paul McStay (laterly) deserved to play in much better Celtic sides than they did .

15 Oct 2013 00:08:13
Paul mcstay played in a great team with danny mcgrain roy aitken murdo mcleod brian mclair etc winnin leagues and cups. Vin {Ed007's Note - In 16 seasons playing Paul McStay only won 3 league titles, 4 Scottish Cups and 1 League Cup. He is by far one of the finest CFC players of all time and deserved to win a lot more trophies than he did.}

Agreed Ed. McStay played in a good Celtic team for 2 or 3 seasons. The rest was in poor teams when we were struggling financially. Wouldn't it be great to see a 20 year old PMcS in the team now?!?
Im 37, and I spent every night over the park as a young guy telling everyone I was Paul McStay, a true Celtic legend.

After the UEFA cup final I walked to the bus park to get my bus. Paul was there with his kids, waiting on the bus next to me to open. It wasnt the time to get pics autographs etc. I just said "hi Paul, how are you" he just looked and said. "devastated". Just wish i'd met him in better circumstances as he seems a absolute gentleman

joeshmo1888 {Ed007's Note - I have met Paul, Willie and Raymond quite a lot over the years, my mammy actually used to babysit them years ago in Larkhall and my older sis went out with Raymond for a while when they were teenagers. The three of them also went to the same school as me and were more than happy to come back for charity events etc after they left.
Paul was a hero of mine as well, it must be common in our age group (I'm 39), a true gentleman and a true legend.}

So are we name dropping now Ed007?! Lol
Ok, I coached Danny McGrain's daughter at hockey, was a friend of Jimmy Hood's daughter, went to school with Johnny Colqhuon and Charlie Nicholas is a family friend! Oh and I've met Billy Stark in the Indian and see NL regularly in the pub! Ha ha :-) {Ed007's Note - I hope you are female, how the hell does a guy get into coaching a silly wee lasssie's game like hockey? I assume you made sure the ironing and the dishes were done before you were allowed out to coach hockey.}

Iam 36 and yes Mcstay was my hero, ., .kbarry

IMO, We have had many. Dalglish was part of a very poor Celtic team in the mid 70's. Paul McStay, Paul Elloitt but for me Frank McAvienne was one of my favourite's and he also played in a very poor Celtic team. At the time when we signed Frank he was arguebly the best striker in Britain having scored 29 goals in England's top division. Could you imagine us doing that now. We would have to sign someone like Rooney, Van Persie or Luis Suarez. He maybe won the double but when you go through that team it was a pretty ordinary team apart from Frank and McStay.

I personally though our 87/88 team were class under big ceaser, ., .kbarry

Certainly the maestro (who knocked back offers from Italy and England) - he just loved Celtic, we have never had a midfielder even close since, someone who sits and controls a game, obviously we had Lubo, his best position was a no 10 though! Also I would say Paul Elliott who is the best centre half I have seen live in a Celtic jersey, if we had him now he would make some difference-he had everything, he was very quick/great balance/brave/aggressive - it was a real shame that not long after he signed for Chelsea his career was over because off that Dean Saunders challenge. For those that can't remember it was a challenge similar to the one on John Kennedy! Paul