Celtic Rumours Archive May 14 2013

14 May 2013 22:22:59
Looks like the wanyama to arsenal rumours are starting again. Do you think he will go and how much do you think he is genuinly worth? I value him at 12-15 mill
hew1888

£10m plus add ons would be good business. Any higher and it is a result. green jhedi

15 million. Judging from the mcgeady transfer

I agree with these figures and maybe more but there may be a smart deal to be struck for a lower fee and a hefty sell on clause, say 30-40% of sell-on fee. Something like 7-8 million now and then at least that again, maybe even a whole lot more when he gets sold on. Daviebhoy77

Your not going to get £15 million pound for wanyama no matter how good you think he is my guess is you will get around about 9 million with some add ons dependant on appearances and I doubt it will be arsenal he will go giving the type of player wanyama is and also the type of football arsenal play they don't really use defensive midfielders. my guess is he will go to tottenham or even chelski.

If Wilfred Zaha of Crystal Palace can go to Manchester United for £15 million, a player that has no European experience, and only 1 cap for England, therefore he is in-proven at the top level in football. Surely Wanyama
a player who has champions league experience and 25 caps for Kenya is worth more than £12 million.

It is typical of England, they assume they can raid Scotland for all the top talent for a bargain price. They seem to think that England will dictate the players transfer value, and that is arrogant in my book. However I am afraid it is a sign if the times where clubs in Scotland will continue to lose top talent to English clubs for bargain prices.

EOJBHOY

Lol its amazing how you buy a player and two years later he is worth 15 times that. Dillusional I think

Dillusional that players increase in value? Are they meant to stay the same price?

It is when u think we will get 15mil for him! He won't even go this summer, don't see anyone from the epl offering us 15 for him more established players out there that the top teams will go for. And to the poster about arsenal not using a DM, Arteta is being played in the holding midfield role at the min. if u watch carefully, he advances more than the last holding midfielder they had Alex Song. arsenal have played the same for over 10 years, only the players have changed and a wanyama type player would no doubt be a welcome addition to the team.

The jealousy just oozes out of some people if Stuart downing can go to Liverpool for 15 million and Charlie Adam for 9 million then surely wanyama can go for at least 12 and that is not delusional it's realistic. I didn't hear people say it was delusional when jelavic went for 9 million either. At the end of the day 125 years unbroken history so no matter who leaves we, ll always be glasgow Celtic

Always good to have a hurting one on talking rubbish, if Tore Andre Flop was a £12m then Vic is £100m :-)

Jelavic for £9million. belter

Mikeybhoy

Jelavic went for close to £5 mil where you getting £9mil from?

Jelavic went for 5.5 million actually. mcgeady and hutton are the only players to leave scotland for 9 million +. boumsong and cuellar both 8 million then ferguson and petrov both 7 million. players in scotland won't ever go for over 10 million no matter how good they are

Ed I said 9 million for jelavic did I get my figures wrong. Was it not something like 6 million then rising to about 9 if my figures are wrong then ill hold my hands up. And to say I'm hurting why? Because I look at this realistically and try to stick up for my team when the penny pinchers of the epl want to make a fool out of us with s!e bids for our best players {Ed007's Note - The total deal for Jelavic was £5.5 million but the last £500k was dependant on Everton qualifying for Europe this season, which the didn't.}

Ed just wondering what u thought off the prize liverpool paid for henderson 15-20million and a don't think he is as good as wanyama or as versitile either so we should be looking that kind of muni for him surely! {Ed007's Note - You can't compare prices like that. If LFC want to waste their money on mediocre players that's their business. You have to look at it that Henderson is English and was playing in the EPL, that bumps the price up right away, factor into that LFC need to pay over the odds to attract players because they are only an average team now and also that they put far too much faith in Dalglish. A player in only worth what another club will pay for him.}

It is fact that the only way celtic will get 10 -12 million is if a couple of teams are determined to get him and up their offers to beat off competition wanyama had a good europe this season but his spl form has not been what it could have been he has been dis-interested in games and looked as if his mind was elsewhere at times. he is a good solid player but not a £15 million player no where near. 10 at most with possible sell on fee.

The guy who mentioned tor andre flo and 12 million those were the days when old firm teams were paying way big transfer fees just to try and get the players to come. I actually liked flo but he didn't do enough in the air for a man of his height his scoring record was actually decent for rangers. rangers should they recover their troubles and celtic will never spend more than 4 million quid on players ever again its time to admit we are bargain finders hoping to find gems as is wanyama and selling them on for big fees.

To come on here and say its "fact" that Celtic will only get 10-12 million for Wanyama if there a bidding war just shows your intelligence pal. What's fact about that? You got a crystal ball? Like the poster before says he's worth what a club is willing to pay for him. I can tell you this for a FACT Celtic will not under any circumstances let Wanyama leave for less that the transfer record, that's Lawwell's opinion of the player. If he starts next season like he did this it will be more than 10 for sure. Its just ignorance on you and the other "outsiders" part coming in here and valuing our players based on the apprearances you chose to see or remember, your football illiterates. Here's another fact for you, the scouts from across Europe aren't interested in the last quarter of the Scottish league season when Celtic have walked the league and players have taken their foot off the gas. They are interested in Wanyama being a stand out against the best teams in Europe in the Champions League because that tells them all they need to know about his capability. I don't even imaging they would bother watching him domestically at this stage of the season. He's 21! And like every other young player suffers from inconsistency and any potential buyer knows this. And to the poster saying Arsenal don't play defensive midfielders, well, all that does is back up my suggestion those posts are from football illiterates. Arteta is playing that role best he can because Diaby is injured and even Diaby wasn't a worthy replacement for Alex song who in turn wasn't as good as Gilberto Silva who was a shadow of his predecessors Patrick Vieira or Man United Petit. If you knew anything about Arsenal you would know there best and most successful teams played a defensive midfielder. Wanyama would be perfect for Arsenal.

Thougt Craig Gordon went for £10m?

In reply to the large post before the Craig Gordon one. the is one of the most accurate and sensible posts I have seen for a while. Leave a name pal and I will certainly look forward to reading and replying to you in future.

Holding/defensive midfield players are a dying breed and I too believe he would excel in such a role at any of the top EPL teams who would utilise such a player.

WTBhoy

Great post mate and yes Gordon should be added to the list as I think he was 9 million aswell, crazy really

ChrisBhoy

16 May 2013 18:18:14
An "unnamed team" offered 9 million for jelavic remember? The team formerly known as the Glasgow rangers knocked it back to sell him for 4 million less 6 months later

14 May 2013 19:29:32
I met a friend today, (Everton Fan) he was slobbering that Naismith was coming to Celtic, holy jebus I hope he is wrong.

Even if he would, he's not good enough. we can find better.

Injury prone and not Celtic class and as I remember had the chance to join us when WGS was manager and he made his choice.
This seems like another Kris Boyd wind-up?

JJ

He will never sign for celtic his family would never forgive him.

14 May 2013 23:43:24
Wouldn't entertain this p***, as above poster said he's a bluenose and will end up at Blackpool or the likes. Stevie

It's true, realdealbhoy says so. lol. shammy

As a fellow Stewartonian, and someone that knows the Naismiths well, he won't sign for us. He would rather retire than wear the hoops

Samson

If he is that much of a bluenose and would rather retire that wear the Hoops.
Maybe he could sign for whatever incarnation of Sevco we arw on now.

Or can they not afford this level of failure, oh dear.

Lost Bhoy 50

Not a chance, he said no to WGS because he's a bluenose, would any celtic fan join sevco if given the chance. I think everyone would say no away an boil yer heed person! An anyways like a poster said, he isn't good enough.

Is John Daly a Celtic fan? he's about to join Sevco, money talks it seems #noambition

HH

14 May 2013 10:11:57
My visits are getting less frequesnt, hope to rectify this shortly, but what are all you guys thoughts on signings?
Am I the only one who thinks Charlie Austin is not good enough for the hoops? If we are serious about another CL group campaign we need higher quality players.
Celtic must bid for Jordan Rhodes.
Also if some of our top stars are going to leave, Lennon must decide WHEN is best for Celtic, keep them until qualifiers are over then sell them at end of July. Timalloy

How did yur transgender op go mrs t?

I get the feeling we might have a striker in mind but will not be spending big money. The development around the ground will take cash as well, although I would assume this will be out with the playing budget, and I can see our total spend in the £5m area. green jhedi

I agree about Rhodes, but will probably be out-with our budget as Blackburn paid £8 and there will be other interest.
Spot on about Celtic not rushing to sell until it is the right time for us.
These players are under contract and although guys like Hooper and Wanyama have been hot and cold most of the season, we must give ourselves every chance of qualifying again for the group stage.
I hope the Board reward the manager when we do strengthen the squad and not rest on their laurels or settle for mediocrity (Walters, Doyle etc).
The team earned the club a very healthy profit this season and we should always look to improve IMO.

Jungle Jim

Austin has scored more goals at Championship Level in his career than Rhodes has, possible more than Hooper did as well. I reckon either/ or would be great signings.

Get Jordan in now the guy is lighting fast with his touch and reactions and will score a barrow load

We won't get Rhodes now. Blackburn have had a very ordinary season, yet he has continued to score goals in abundance. 29 for a team that finished 17th basically says it all. Hate saying it as I would love to see him at Celtic, but I reckon we have missed the boat now. I can see him ending up at Newcastle or a similar mid-table PL side. Hope I am wrong but I just don't see it