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15 Aug 2018 15:14:00
There is one man to blame for our euro failure, his name is brendan rodgers. I'll give him the plaudits when we qualify and win trebles, but he must take responsibility for our failings.

The buck stops with him.

gerrymurphy

1.) 15 Aug 2018 15:40:20
I agree he has to take his share of the blame but at the same time he can't legislate for some of the crazy lapses in concentration we've seen.


2.) 15 Aug 2018 15:55:38
Yip gerrymurphy 100% agree, BR's signings with a few exceptions have been complete failures!


3.) 15 Aug 2018 16:17:24
Are a lot of them Rodgers signings?, or were they bought for him? .
I'm not sure exactly how the system works in regards to buying players, but if you take Compper for example he gets one game then he is never seen again. That doesn't look to me like a player that the manager wanted.
On a seperate point. The Hamilton match has been switched to the Sunday. I know that Thursdays is the night for the Europa league but considering how close we are to the Hamilton match couldn't the first leg of the qualifier be played on the Tuesday or Wednesday? . I have seen other Europa League games been played on these nights. Sevco played one of their qualifiers on a Tuesday night so it can obviously be done.


4.) 15 Aug 2018 16:28:37
Gerryc -

If they aren't Rodgers signings why did he say in January the board delivered everything he wanted? Compper and Hendry were signed in the Jan window. If we had signed 2 better CBs instead of them we would have qualified.

So yeah Rodgers is part of the reason we got knocked out and has to take his share of the blame.


5.) 15 Aug 2018 18:07:02
Doesn't he highlight what he needs or wants and the buck lies with Scouts/ Congerton/ Lawwell to deliver that?


6.) 15 Aug 2018 18:31:58
And if he had got the players he wanted at the start of the summer we might still be in cl. guys like Hendry hayes gamboa were to beef up squad but how many pressers has he done and mentioned quality it's simple the board have not delivered.


7.) 15 Aug 2018 20:58:04
In February he was as happy as a bug in a rug . How could P L and the Board annoy him so much, in such a short time . Surely if he could be so happy after the Jan window there must have been a non transfer disagreement to put them at each other in August.


8.) 15 Aug 2018 21:25:46
Guys a couple of years ago if i had told u we would win double treble be in CL 2 out of 3 u would have snapped my hands off. We are gutted but let's have some perspective.


 

 

30 May 2018 13:20:57
Full list of teams we can face in UCL qualifying (we'll need to beat 4 of these) .
Shkendija, Dudelange, Spartak Trnava, Valletta, Vikingur Gota, Crusaders, Olimpija Ljubljana, Alashkert, Sutjeska Niksic, Suduva Marijampole, Spartaks Jurmala, Cork City, Valur, Flora Tallinn, Torpedo Kutaisi, Midtjylland, CFR Cluj, Red Star Belgrade, Hapoel Be-er Sheva, Rosenborg, HJK Helsinki, The New Saints, Videoton, Kukesi, Zrinjski Mostar, AEK Athens, BATE Borisov, Dinamo Zagreb, Qarabag, Sheriff Tiraspol, Malmo, Young Boys, Astana, Legia Warsaw, APOEL

Realistically 1 from the bottom 4/ 5 in the play off round, 1 from the 8 or so before that in the 3rd qualifier, and two from the top half in the earlier rounds.

Very difficult, but not impossible.

gerrymurphy

1.) 30 May 2018 13:47:48
Feeling we will get Legia Warsaw at some stage.


2.) 30 May 2018 14:06:21
only a matter of time before we run into them again.

For me, as long as we stick to western europe we should be ok - Crusaders/ Cork for the first couple of rounds would be ideal, then maybe helsinki/ malmo something like that.


3.) 30 May 2018 15:56:55
Guys most of us Celtic fans if not exactly worried about us making the group stages again, are not counting our chickens as we could meet a team well into their season, or Celtic could have a bad day or be fatigued, especially if we get Astana again on the other side of the universe.
Now compare our cautious attitude to a sevconian fan, who almost to a man, have got the new club not only in the group stages of the Europa League but quarter final at worst.
Despite them falling flat last year, having an inexperienced manager and probably most of last season's failures.
Their arrogance and self entitlement knows no bounds.


4.) 30 May 2018 16:29:21
It's getting to be a great achievement to qualify for the group stage considering the timing of the qualifiers in relation to our season and the number of games we have to play - even as champions.
CL nights are a unique experience at Celtic Park, even though we have suffered some heavy defeats recently; however, the reality of being a Celtic supporter as opposed to the delusional dumplings in denial is we have used the CL cash to ensure financial security, attract and keep the best players in the country and employ an experienced, quality manager, who lives and breaths our club and it's successes.


5.) 30 May 2018 16:37:08
I'm completely on the side of Legia for that last time. They hammered us fair and square.

Our board should have done the decent thing and asked UEFA to keep Legia in.

Uefa would have still kicked them regardless, but I think it made our club look small time and it was zombie patter.

{Ed007's Note - So you think that Celtic should have accepted a fine and possible five-year ban from UEFA competition? What Legia Warsaw done wrong had absolutely nothing to do with Celtic, Celtic didn't break any rules which wouldn't have been the case if we had been stupid enough to do what you wanted.
So who should have taken Legia Warsaw's place?}


6.) 30 May 2018 16:52:11
Well we better get into the champions league since it’s been confirmed if we don’t that we will fold like a pack of cards😱.


7.) 30 May 2018 17:54:06
No, I didn't say break the rules. I didn't say to forfeit the competition.

I said we should have made a statement basically saying we got beat fair and square and it's an unfortunate mistake by Legia.

As I said either way we were going to be put in place of Legia, but we should have shown them some support as their error was tiny and had no impact on the result at all.

Instead the way we handled ourselves was disrespectful.

Like when Legia appealed, Celtic said they were "disappointed" - what do they expect Legia to do? roll over and accept getting kicked out after absolutely humiliating us?

{Ed007's Note - Yes. They broke the rules by fielding an ineligible player and they should have accepted their punishment. Celtic done nothing wrong and weren't disrespectful - whatever that's meant to mean - to anyone.}


8.) 30 May 2018 18:29:07
Young Boys are a decent side, be good to avoid them .


9.) 30 May 2018 18:50:30
Ed007 . It is surely true Celtic is a club for all, even those who want the club to exit Champions League illegally.

{Ed007's Note - You can't just pick and choose what games you want to play, without there being serious repercussions.}


10.) 30 May 2018 19:17:08
They pumped us silly lol and we didn't deserve to go through as was seen against Maribor.

they brought that guy on as a sub in the last 2 minutes and we were already 6-1 down on agg.

If we won 6-1 and fielded a sub in last 2 mins and they kicked us out, not one of us here would say the other team we hammer 6-1 deserves it lol.

{Ed007's Note -. Legia received the standard punishment for for fielding an ineligible player, their opponents (Celtic) were awarded a 3-0 win and so we qualified on away goals with a 4-4 aggregate result, I'd say that had a pretty big bearing on the result. Legia weren't kicked out the competition, they went out on the away goals rule, do you understand that?
So how did you expect UEFA to keep Legia in the competition without us forfeiting it?
And if Celtic made the same stupid mistake I would be fuming but I'd like to think we're far too professionally ran not to know if a player is banned or not.}


11.) 30 May 2018 20:37:05
Tesla369. There is no way we should have given way to Legia.
If an athlete gets caught taking drugs, you wouldn't let him keep his medal by arguing that he would have won the race without taking drugs, that has got nothing to do with it.
We may have got lucky on that occasion, but it's not up to a club who followed the rules to take the side of a club who broke them.
Would you say that if we were to win a match with a controversial penalty in the last minute that we should ask the authorities to change the result if it was shown later to be a wrong decision? . This is what you seem to be arguing for.


12.) 30 May 2018 20:41:50
Tesla369 I do not know if you know this but Legia blamed a female member of their office staff and SACKED her, hardly the actions of a team with virtue.


13.) 30 May 2018 21:03:19
But we had a handicap that no other team taking part had,


14.) 30 May 2018 21:53:28
good point Timalloy.
The club secretary is usually the responsible person for ensuring procedures and paperwork are in order. That, would surely include keeping track of bans, rule compliance etc.
I think the original intent of the post was that he felt Celtic should have shown some sympathy.
The question is WHY?
They made a "schoolboy" error by bringing on a player who was not eligible to play. Not rocket science.
As previously pointed out, Legia were given the mandatory punishment.
If Celtic had not scored then Legia would still have gone through even with the punishment.
Bottom and basic line. They cheated and we benefited.


15.) 30 May 2018 21:59:50
Timalloy Legia knew she wouldn't have the balls to stand up to them.
Tesla369, if you are just a supporter of Scottish Football, I sympathise. With the fact in your association Rangers 1872 and Rangers 2012 cheat with impunity .
Rangers are and were above the laws.


16.) 30 May 2018 23:24:10
There was absolutely no need for Ed and his "do you know that? " condescending patter.

Also adding things I never suggested. I never once said we should have thrown ourselves out of the tournament.

I'm saying we should have been aware that UEFA would have kicked Legia out regardless and it would have been respectful and good sportsmanship from our end to admit that as a club we recognise that Legia beat us fair and square and we didn't feel they got an advantage.

an 88 minute sub when we are 6-1 down is not an advantage, we got beat fair and square and It would have been good to admit that and give our condolences to Legia before we moved on to the next round.

However our club hit out with things about being disappointed in Legia appealing even though we would have appealed in the same position. I felt our attitude was disrespectful.

{Ed007's Note - Did you say this?:

"Our board should have done the decent thing and asked UEFA to keep Legia in."

That's all you need to answer, a simple yes or no question.}


17.) 31 May 2018 06:05:00
Nevermind the bollox. They broke the rules by being incredibly naive and we capitalised. Are we in the sympathy game now?


18.) 31 May 2018 07:43:58
Europe next season, their must be improvement defensively. We will see the usual "we need to spend 10 billion" patter

but it's not stopped the likes of BATE qualifying as much as us and on a fraction of our budget.

there is zero excuse for conceding 6/ 7 goals a game as regularly as we do against big sides.

We weren't outspending them in the past when getting some decent results so makes no sense why we can't now.

No reason why we can't be a solid Europa league side like Ajax or Marseille have been recently.


19.) 31 May 2018 09:08:27
Legia broke the rules. End of. We should have let them go forward? Feck me, talk about bollocks?

The mental season is well and truly here.


20.) 31 May 2018 09:43:21
Yes Ed, as said state that we didn't deserve to go through (which we didn't)

Say to UEFA we supported Legia to go through if possible. Which UEFA wouldn't have done anyway.

Then our club don't look like a desperate, greedy and low level.

We got hammered 6-1 on the pitch, 11 vs 11. The broken rule on the 88th min of the 2nd leg had zero impact on the result.

FC Sion game was different, they played 5 players that were not supposed to play and that impacts the result.

Even at that though losing to the likes of Sion was embarrassing as well.

{Ed007's Note - So how could we have asked UEFA to keep Legia in the tournament without us forfeiting our place?}


21.) 31 May 2018 11:40:44
Tesla369. We are talking about a situation where millions of pounds are at stake. It's not the egg and spoon race at a school sports day.
If I drive at 35mph in a 30 limit, I can't argue that I shouldn't get fined because it was only slightly over the limit and nobody was hurt. The rule is there and it's nobody's fault but mine if I get caught.
I don't imagine that the rest of the clubs in the competition would have been too impressed if Legia had been allowed through after breaking the rules. They would then think that they could break the rules without sanction. It would lead to chaos.


22.) 31 May 2018 12:31:44
Simple Ed, UEFA were going to enforce the rule regardless of what we thought of it.

So even if we shown support for Legia we would still go through, still have a chance to get CL money.

However we would have also gained respect for publicly supporting a team which fairly beat us.

So it was a win/ win for us to support Legia cos we wouldn't have had to give up our spot even if we wanted to.

It's a more sportsman and diplomatic thing to do, to show respect to a team who played very well and had us chasing shadows.

{Ed007's Note -

via GIPHY


23.) 31 May 2018 14:40:13
Good response mate, enjoy your 12th birthday next week.

{Ed007's Note -

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25 Aug 2017 12:51:33
Inspired by the T-Shirt that's doing the rounds thought I'd write a full lyric to the Big Strong Cham (which could become my new favourite song! )

Have you heard about the big strong Cham
He comes from Paris, France
Have you heard about his goal against Astana
The one that put an end to all the drama
You can take all the players that you got
We've got a lad that can beat the whole lot
He used to play for Man City
Now he's come to join, the Celtic

He's our Cham, the best (what's he got)
He'll soon have forty medals on his chest (big chest)
He take on the huns and all the rest
He knows no rest, think of the new Wanyama
Don't push, just shove, plenty room for Broon and Cham
he's got an arm (Got an Arm! )
like a leg (Like a leg! )
and a strike that can sick a battle ship (Big Ship! )
it takes all the army and the navy to get the ball off N Cham

(c) Gerry Murphy 2017!

gerrymurphy

1.) 25 Aug 2017 13:23:52
ED are Celtic due a press conference today before morra game or did they do after CL draw?

{Ed007's Note - It's going on just now.}


2.) 25 Aug 2017 13:29:51
Oooooffft that's 20 seconds of my life al never get back πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ˜©πŸ˜©πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.


3.) 25 Aug 2017 13:32:43
Brilliant GerryπŸ‘ hope it catches on. No the easiest song to sing right enough, always get a bit tongue tied singing the original never mind trying it with new lyrics lol 😧.


 

 

17 Aug 2017 11:21:22
Without wanting to count chickens before they hatch, I'm pretty confident we've done enough to start looking to the draw next thursday, For me best draws are as follows.

Glamour
Real Madrid
Paris St Germain
Liverpool
Celtic (assuming pot 4)

Qualifyable
Spartak Moscow
Spurs
Celtic (assuming pot 3)
Qarabag
(this almost looks like a europa league group! )

Bring it on!

gerrymurphy

1.) 17 Aug 2017 11:35:13
I would take the glamour all day.


2.) 17 Aug 2017 11:50:12
Gordo, the glamour just to get pumped? Take the other group all day long so we can compete and enjoy it rather than finishing bottom and embarrassed. Hate all this nonsense about wanting the best teams here just to say we were involved and have big name players say about the atmosphere. I want celtic to win and compete, not just to make up the numbers.


3.) 17 Aug 2017 12:33:21
I'd like two glamour teams (Real, Dortmund) and a team we can beat . Probably finish third but who wouldn't want to see Real at Parkhead or the amazing atmosphere of Dortmund. Then we just go and have a serious shot at winning the Europa league.


4.) 17 Aug 2017 13:01:37
Why get pumped?, this team is on the up, they can be carried along on a wave of growing confidence and team spirit, I would go for group full off the three other most 'glamorous 'teams, these teams are full of overpaid, overhyped, prima Donnas, they will expect to "pump", Celtic, I say bring them on.


5.) 18 Aug 2017 09:48:02
All this bravado is amusing. I think we need to recognise we are probably two transfer windows away from realistically taking in all the big teams in one group.

I would prefer a group this squad has a chance of progressing from. Building confidence and pocketing an additional Β£6m.

I fear Madrid, I think they could inflict a heavy defeat and why want that?

The main thing though for me always is to just fecking qualify. Anything else is a bonus.

My Hun mates are in a state of animated grief. I am doing all I can to help them at this difficult time. I told my pal that I think Brendan will allow young Henderson back to Hibs on loan pushing them into fourth place.

His face was a picture. I wish I had taken a photo. :)


6.) 18 Aug 2017 11:11:18
Have to say l agree with both gerrybhoy17 and aindoh here. Do you not want us to qualify for the last 16. Getting the big team like Madrid is the last thing l want. We got glamour group last year and look what happened. Thumped 7 -0 in barca. The bhoys don't need something like that again or a group as tough. The minute it was drawn we were playing for third place. Give me a group like Leicester got last year and then we can welcome a glamour tie to parkhead.


 

 

08 Aug 2014 15:37:42
Now the initial euphoria is over and the jokes are dying down I must admit i'm not comfortable accepting a gift like this outright.

If we could afford to it and as fans we could give it up for a year a statement like withdrawing from the Champions League would be the morally correct thing to do. But i'm realistic, and I want champions league football, so this clearly won't happen.

What I would like to see though is a gesture such as donating all gate receipts from the Maribor game to charity - this could be as much as Β£1.5m-Β£2m and is money we were not expecting.

To offer such a sum to charity (or charities) would be an exemplary gesture from the club and might go some way towards restoring some pride. For me the charity should be local - possibly Glasgow's foodbanks but obviously Unicef or something carries more weight internationally.

gerrymurphy

{Ed007's Note - UEFA would hammer us if we refused to play. I take it you will be donating money to a charity rather than buy a ticket for the match?}


1.) 08 Aug 2014 17:26:08
What pride do celtic have to restore, apart from on the park. I wish folk would just realise that Legia broke the rules and were correctly punished. I'm actually embarrassed for the folk who are embarrassed! Lol!


2.) I'm not embarrassed a Polish team failed to comply with the rules in the holy grail of football competitions. Would we be embarrassed if it wasn't Celtic Legia were playing? We wouldn't bat an eyelid other than to think what a stupid schoolboy error to make.

We were always playing another tie anyway and could very well still be playing Europa League football after the Maribor game.

I know you have the right sentiments though Gerry :-)


 

 

 

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Worth pointing out that we didn't win anything in seville, in fact that season we allowed the worst treble winning team in scottish football history to do a clean sweep.

Anyway i'd rather WIN the euorpa league than not win the champions league (regardless of how far we get - 1/16, 1/8, 1/4)

Winning trophies is what celtic is all about, I couldn't care less about money or profits, I want to see us win cups.

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30 May 2018 14:06:21
only a matter of time before we run into them again.

For me, as long as we stick to western europe we should be ok - Crusaders/ Cork for the first couple of rounds would be ideal, then maybe helsinki/ malmo something like that.

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I think this is very harsh on the team. Salzburg flew out the traps last night and caught us cold (which is no defence) but I think the way they started they would have taken the lead against anyone.

I thought for the entire second half we were the better team, and could easily have equalised with griffiths header or izzy squaring that ball. They only got their third because our fullbacks were pushed so far up the park trying to salvage a draw. Worth pointing out we had already qualified when the third went in. 2-1 or 3-1 makes no difference, a defeat is still a defeat, i'd rather see us push for an equalizer.

With more sharpness at the start and guidetti on the pitch I think we'd have beaten a very good side last night. in fact I think that's the best we've played in europe all season.

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09 Jul 2014 16:37:48
like I said before I couldn't care less about such a team would fare, but how can you say it would not improve their chances?

Gareth Bale would improve any team on Earth!

As for your point about team GB, surely the fact they beat Uruguay as opposed to England's capitulation nullifies your point?

Only interested in Celtic and a UK national team would have to mean UK league too, that's good enough for me.

gerrymurphy

{Ed007's Note - Any UK league would be immediately weakened though, as soon as UEFA sanction a breakdown of borders all of Europe's major clubs will look at maximising their income and teams like Man Utd, Chelsea, City and Arsenal would leave to join a European Super League, taking the majority of TV money with them.
So far CFC haven't been included in talks so unless there is a lower division of any ESL we would be stuck playing the likes of Wigan and Stoke while seeing a massive drop in TV revenue from the levels in England enjoy just now.}


 

 

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09 Jul 2014 16:06:06
Personally I couldn't give a monkeys about the England or Scotland national teams so I see no harm in this moving forward.

By disbanding both the FA and SFA in favour of a unified set up this would obviously have a knock on effect on the league structrue as if FIFA would only be recognising one association, UEFA would have the same attitude. It's probably our only hope of playing in a bigger and more lucrative league.

That's my 2 cents anyway, come on La Albiceleste!

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