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10 May 2017 18:08:35
Seen Josh Kerr supposedly going to Brighton in summer . thought he looked good anytime I've seen him . is he being released not renewing his deal or bought?

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{Ed007's Note - It's just like the Billy Gilmur deal mate. Kerr's deal ends next month so we will get an agreed fee, I don't know how much.}


 

 

09 May 2017 13:47:23
Seeing solanke rumours starting up again . but the man city boy enes unal looks a better punt. or sebastian haller (going by eredivisie stats )

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20 May 2016 17:14:27
Rogers in . let's go foe ward.

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29 Apr 2016 14:42:46
Hi ed . have you heard anything about a meeting where Desmond openly/ publicly criticised pl and the transfer policy and intimated about getting a high profile manager?

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{Ed007's Note - Now this is a mix of half rumours, half truths and possibly a big dollop of BS in there as well but I'll try and make it as sensible to read as I can mate.

- Peter Lawwell's position has been being independently audited over recent months - board members are not happy with the way things are going. Dermot Desmond never even stayed for the penalties at Hampden and made it abundantly clear to Lawwell late on the Sunday night that it was unacceptable.

- Dermot Desmond has taken it upon himself to appoint the next manager which could spell the end for Lawwell and Park if true. And we know DD likes to aim big(ish).

- A Director of Football has been discussed but who or by whom I couldn't even guess. MON over Roy Keane has been mentioned but I think that's pie in the sky stuff.

- The Keanes and Moyes level of manager are not prepared to work under the current conditions with Lawwell and Park and want significant investment in the team.

- The Keanes and Moyes level of manager want to be able to bring in their own people (if Moyes could bring in Steve Round it would be quite a coup imo) and have full control over player recruitment in a more traditional approach.

- Bitton and Johansen will be moved on to provide the manager with funds to start with a portion of any sales going into that fund too.

- The two board members who wanted Neil Lennon out are adamant that he won't be returning to the Club.

That's about all I can think of just now DRB and remember I'm not saying any of that is true.}


1.) 29 Apr 2016 15:36:03
That's some pretty promising BS though! Here's hoping!

{Ed007's Note - It sounds OK doesn't it Jimbo but we'll see what actually happens.}


2.) 29 Apr 2016 15:39:57
Peter Lawwell is a paid lachie who works to the remit given to him by good ol' Dermott Desmond!
So I don't think DD is in a position to openly or publically slate him, DD needs to take a long hard look at his own role in the deterioration of our team over the last 3 or 4 years, especially the last 2 seasons under Ronny Deila .


3.) 29 Apr 2016 15:58:55
I don't disagree with you Drewzy, until I see real change I ain't putting another penny into the club, whilst the billionaire major shareholders invest jack $#@! I don't care if that makes me a bad fan or a stayaway or whatever. I, like everybody else I feel, have been taken as a bit of a mug for several seasons. Getting rid of JP and PL would be one hell of a start though.


4.) 29 Apr 2016 16:35:20
Thanks for that info Ed, sounds better than it has done for quite a while, even if it just means PL is made aware that he better reassess his priorities for the club then that will be good. here's hoping we appoint a high profile manager.


5.) 29 Apr 2016 17:16:11
Hopefully get a total clearout. Sounds promising.


6.) 29 Apr 2016 19:01:07
I have said from the beginning that I thought it would be DD that picks the next manager is same way he picked oneill and Strachan


7.) 29 Apr 2016 19:17:34
Jim Tim I agree with you and have been thinking along the same lines as yourself, we have without doubt been getting shortchanged and taken for granted by our board for years, but my point was that DD calls the tune PL is his employee who runs the club according to the instructions of DD so I think DD has a Hyde on him slating PL, if you do everything on the cheap you end up where we are are at the moment, empty stands and unhappy fans!


8.) 29 Apr 2016 19:27:05
That was really interesting Ed thanks for that I would not say PL is bad for the club IMO but for me he has to step RIGHT back from the football side and let what ever manager do his job and PL do his (the money side of it) give the manager a budget and let him get on with it.

{Ed007's Note - Lawwell has done well with regards to incoming finances, sponsorships etc The only part of player recruitment he should be involved in is contract negotiations. It's not even the amount of money that he's spent it's what he's spent it on, he's wasted millions on duds all on the say so of John Park.
I don't think Lawwell would be happy to relinquish the power he has though.}


9.) 29 Apr 2016 20:24:47
Thanks ed . the story as told to me came from "a reliable source" hope the crux of it is true and change is on its way . I keep forgetting to check the rumours page was looking on banter for post to come up . glad I never done a rabmac . 😆.

{Ed007's Note - :=D


10.) 29 Apr 2016 23:12:48
Interesting post DRB enjoyed reading that. Fingers crossed this is true.


11.) 29 Apr 2016 23:55:36
Good post there is hope after all. Surely with a high profile manager like Moyes or Rodgers will probably be enough to lure some decent out of contact EPL players up North and put a bit of credibility back in the league.


12.) 30 Apr 2016 01:41:19
Does anyone think with this information in mind, we might very well see PL leave to go to Sunderland? If DD appoints next manager, i can't see the trust in PL being reestablished.

We need a quality set up off field in terms of management and coaching.

{Ed007's Note - I really don't see how Lawwell's job is tenable. RD was his project and he MUST fall on his sword over it unless he throws Park under the bus.
I said the other week I spoke to a well placed and knowledgeable source in England that compared Lawell to Levy at Spurs, he has far too much financial and emotional investment in the Club and would need to be sacked/pushed.
If DD is in the kind of mood thst's rumoured a mutual consent push could be best for both parties. I would be surprised if Lawwell seen Sunderland as a big enough job for him, remember he is a power hungry, narcissistic megalomaniac who probably sees a Man City or Chelsea job more to his stature.}


13.) 30 Apr 2016 02:49:54
Surely yous don't think PL picks who the manager is going to be? DD will always have the final say on that .


14.) 30 Apr 2016 02:55:05
I hate it that these actions are knee jerk. But it has came to that. Pl has been attepting to line his nest for years and I agree that suderland might not be the biggest fish he fancies. Wish there were trickles from the next level up on his chances of being moved to the top table. Think the Sunderland link speaks volumes as to where he will actually end up.


15.) 29 Apr 2016 22:42:32
I can only speculate drewzy, but DD leaves the running of the club to PL, DD has got other things going on. Simple as.

However, as what we've heard from the most valuable source on the page, this might change, as DD probably being a sensible man, can't be too pleased.

DD has spoken himself about CFC being an 'emotional investment not a financial one', so, given his riches, is it? I know people who go without in order to watch Celtic games. Yet DD only seems to dip in his pockets to please his Irish playboy pals. See Keane and Keane eg. That pisses me off.

I agree with you, and basically what I'm saying is the money CFC make for DD is peanuts compared to his other ventures. So surely now with mounting pressure against himself, he has to take pride in the running of the club, and twist, because as the s*** falls down the pyramid - from Berget, to RD, to PL and JP, it will soon end up on his door, if not already.

The reality is, until we are in a position of regular CL qualification (which is PL's fault we aren't) and some sheik or oil baron wants their logo on our kits and stadium, DD will be our owner. So, the running of the club, on a footballing basis, needs to change.

I've said all along that PL is good at the financial side of things. Between himself and rasputin JP though, they are unfit for purpose. And although have been given money, have used it very unwisely.


16.) 30 Apr 2016 10:09:32
I don't think PL will be going anywhere to be honest
Yes celtic gambled on Ronny and it hasn't worked out
Tried a new direction and it failed
But in PLs time here celtic have been successful on and off the pitch.
Every club picks the wrong manager now and again
Hopefully they reorganise and pick the right man this time.
I am not a supporter of PL or the board but I ain't against them either
All I care about is my club is successful and healthy.


17.) 29 Apr 2016 20:50:47
Ed can you tell me any more about Lennon and the 2 board members or do you need to watch what you're saying? I know you don't like to throw gossip and scandal about the site but I can't find anything about it on google etc.

{Ed007's Note - During Lennon's final season in charge there were two members of the board who were very vocal about the lack of trophies won under him, and the embarrassing CL campaign.The board unanimously agreed that after the money and time invested in NL the CL campaign was a mitigating disaster with the 6-1 drubbing by Barca seen as a significant example of the deterioration of the Club under NL's tenure, not to mention the whole staleness around the club with Rangers demise and whether he was the man to lead the Club forward considering his failings to deliver trphies in a Rangers-less league. The board felt the Club was going backwards and that NL thought he was untouchable because he portrayed himself as the ultimate Celtic minded poster boy. A far cry from the Liverppol daft youngster who came over to Motherwell for trials.
His off field activities and shenanigans were also noted as a major source for concerrn with regards to the future public image of the Club.


18.) 29 Apr 2016 22:22:10
I agree Ed, PL has financially run the club well if anything too well, until DD changes the financial remit nothing can change, but the other posters are correct PL should limit his involvement in player recruitment to contract negotiations and its time to cut John Park loose, he has wasted million on a succession of dud strikers, DD has to take the lead and sort out the mess .


 

 

26 Jul 2014 13:22:29
Gordon
Herron
O'Connell
Findlay
F. Twadrzik
Henderson
Bitton
McGeouch
Atajic
Balde
Watt

subs,,,, zaluska, Irvine, waters, McMullen lyndsey, fraser, mcmanus

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1.) Expected a totally second string team. Looking forward to Balde and Watt together though. Will be a fantastic trip for any lucky buggers who get over.


 

 

 

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21 May 2017 10:12:10
Do we play safe with the treble in mind or go full strength for the invincible season .

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1.) 21 May 2017 10:56:05
One of the most refreshing things about this season is the confidence that all of the players exude. Even with rotation there's a spirit and confidence that suggests everyone is stepping up.


2.) 21 May 2017 10:56:30
Full strength till we go a couple up! Then take, Griff, broony and Armstrong off . Put the bhoys on for some game time . Worse case we? We get a draw . Still invincible and our mid and striker get a rest and no chance of injury . They will be the driving force against the sheep . We have cover in most other positions.


3.) 21 May 2017 10:58:28
Full strength he's not going to change much today give the players and the fans a party HH.


4.) 21 May 2017 11:32:41
Surprised anyone can contemplate holding back today. Games like this don't come around every hundred years! In the preceding matches I'd be tempted to rest big players, but not today. Trebles will be won again, but this feat will not go challenged in our lifetimes.


5.) 21 May 2017 12:59:59
Your next game is always the most important one as a player, what if you play it safe and have a shocker, you might find yourself not playing in the final .


 

 

16 May 2017 18:53:51
If indeed dembele to chelsea It would be great to see . christiansen . van ginkle. as part of any deal.

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1.) 16 May 2017 20:36:28
I think it's disappointing to hear about Dembele.
From what I read, he seems happy at the club, he hasn't asked for a move, and he's nowhere near the end of his contract, so why are the club agreeing a fee with Chelsea? .
Talking about replacements is all well and good, but there is no guarantee that they will settle as well as Dembele has.
We have improved a lot this season, why on earth do we want to go back a year and start over again?,
I hate to say it after such a good season, but it just looks like the club has reverted to type and can't resist the lure of money coming in.
If we want to improve long term, we have to start keeping our best players for more than a season, it's hard enough at the best of times to keep them happy, but to sell them when they don't want to leave is just madness in my opinion.

{Ed007's Note - Celtic gave Dembele permission to talk to Chelsea in January. From that Chelsea would have got an idea of his demands to put together the package on offer, the only stumbling block which Chelsea told him in January is guaranteed game time. Celtic aren't forcing Dembele into anything here, the player would happily sign for Chelsea if they gave him the guarantees he's looking for and Celtic would get the fee they're looking for.}


2.) 16 May 2017 21:06:00
You only have to look at the lad batshiauy (think its spelled) for an example of game time and to be fair both of them are probably as good as each other. That would be an ideal swap for me.


3.) 16 May 2017 21:24:57
I take it then ED, that the player asked to speak to Chelsea? . If that's the case then all this talk he's been coming out with about him being happy here, and wanting to improve himself was just nonsense, as at the time he asked to speak to Chelsea he'd only been here for 6 months.
In a way that's worse than the usual way that players behave as he's not only chasing the money, he also wants a guaranteed starting place as well.
Nice work if you can get it.

{Ed007's Note - Nobody's said Dembele isn't happy here. Chelsea will have asked Celtic for permission to talk to the player - knowing the money Celtic were asking - and they'd have been stupid to say no. Dembele and his agent will know the figure that Celtic will sell and so do Chelsea, hence the fee being agreed. If the Club had refused the players agent could argue the Club is standing in the player's way which the manager has said we will never do.
Do you really think all these multi-million transfers deals happen in the space of a couple of weeks? Celtic will have held talks with players or their agents in January about moving here in the summer, sometimes it can be one summer to the next before some deals are finalised. How many times has David de Gea held talks with Madrid? Clubs like Chelsea have plans in place for players they will try and sign in 2/3 years time from all corners of the globe.}


4.) 16 May 2017 22:27:35
ED, I know these transfer deals take a long time, but the player had only been here for 6 months.
I'm just going on what you said, that basically if Chelsea offer him first team football he'll be off. I just think that for us to improve we need to hang on to our better players for more than a season.

{Ed007's Note - Celtic were obviously happy with the money, maybe even surprised that Chelsea would pay it, and most clubs will allow a player to at least talk if their valuation is met, especially if it's a massive life changing move. Celtic will probably have told Dembele that if someone offers X amount they will let him talk to them so that the player doesn't feel the Club are pricing him out a move, we will have made a lot of promises to get Dembele to sign last summer.
Dembele wants to play football and doesn't want to move to Chelsea to sit on their bench or be loaned out just like he didn't want to move to Spurs and sit on their bench last summer or the January window before. He's telling Chelsea that he's not leaving Celtic to sit on their bench, the money isn't that important to him, he wants to play regularly at the highest level he can and if that means spending another year at Celtic then that's what he'll happily do.
Fair play to the lad that he's not just chasing money, if that was the case we'd have never signed him. Let's wait and see how things pan out over the summer, as I've said Chelsea have said Dembele needs to change his standpoint and Dembele isn't for being anything other than first choice strike wherever he's playing.
Perhaps with the things he's said he doesn't see Chelsea budging so he is thinking that he will still be here next season.}


5.) 16 May 2017 22:43:39
So ED is he or is he not leaving in the summer in your opinion?

{Ed007's Note - I'll say imo it's 70/30 in our favour just now, it's only talks and I think Chelsea will have their eye on someone else to be their main striker so won't give Dembele the guarantees he's looking for.}


6.) 16 May 2017 23:23:22
As we all know Celtic won't let the cat out the bag on signings in or out so am not sure how and who brought this out?

{Ed007's Note - It came from high up at the Chelsea end.}


7.) 16 May 2017 23:41:20
Oh well could be a goer then if it's coming from there then oh shit!


8.) 16 May 2017 23:50:06
guys get a grip. We can not turn our noses up at 40 million quid. And to be fair if he can make it in that Chelsea side good luck to him. The bigger picture as a team looking forward is to continue growing and the money we would generate would pretty much ensure 10 in a row and qualifying for champions league group stages for the next umpteen years. I for one am not going to baulk at losing one amazing player with the knowledge that it secures my club with the ability to dominate our national game and grow our ability to compete at a European level.


9.) 17 May 2017 07:37:45
Mmi I agree with all of that.

40m would be too much to turn down. I'd be surprised if it was that much though. Perhaps 20-25 would be my guess. Plus a player or two at a push.

Chelsea would be making a big gamble making Dembele their no.1 striker right now. So I'll ask yet again, what has changed with MD? Nothing. Unless he changes his standpoint on how much game time he's going to get or they turn his head with silly money, I think we might just see Moose stay with Chelsea having first option.

When we signed him I was excited. Not just because I thought we had an exciting player, but because I knew we had an asset. I'd like MD to stay, if he stays fit and continues at the rate he's been at then he could go on to score more than Henke, and that's worth more than twenty-odd million to me. However, even Henke had other ambitions, like Dembele probably does so cashing in is sensible. Within a few seasons, there could be another opportunity to sign a player like Dembele on the cheap and do a turn. And we could use the example of Dembele to lure them here. We could do it with Solanke the now. Any extra cash can be used to continue to sign good players, and assets, in other areas.

Providing the reinvestment is right, it's the best model we have to follow.


10.) 17 May 2017 07:44:49
I don't think that they would pay 40m from just one seasons showing I think the player himself will decide I think that he will stay the summer and hopefully do well and then move on in January.


 

 

15 Dec 2016 15:12:08
Starting 11 that set previous unbeaten run. Douglas. . agathe. mjallby. valgaeran. boyd.
Petta. petrov. Thompson. . Lubo. .
Sutton. Larsson. .

Start g 11 that beat it
Gordon

Lustig. Shevvy. . simo. mgregor.
Brown Armstrong Rogic. Roberts.
Moussa . Griff. .

Best of both? . my pick.

Gordon
Lustig. Shevvy. . Mjallby. . boyd
Roberts. brown armstrong. petrov. Lubo
Larsson.

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1.) 16 Dec 2016 00:15:35
Gordon
Lustig Sutton mjlaby Boyd
Roberts brown petrov Lubo
Rogic
The King.


2.) 16 Dec 2016 08:51:15
I would have Sutton and Larsson every time. As big Jock said, "Attack is the best form of defending"


3.) 16 Dec 2016 17:17:50
Sutton in defence island celt! Can't be having that one mate! Like Tim said the king and Sutton up top all day long for me! Our best front pairing in years.


 

 

11 Dec 2016 12:47:34
Curiosity question . if a player is on loan at a club for 18 month (or any length) can another club then buy him from his parent club during a transfer window.

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}


1.) 11 Dec 2016 15:21:16
Thanks .


2.) 11 Dec 2016 22:35:14
So yes anyone can buy PR. I assume that's where the question was directed.


3.) 12 Dec 2016 01:48:30
No it wasnt shug. . it came from seeing the amount of players on loan from chelsea playing around eorope who with Chelsea spending policy will probably never play for them . I also think roberts will go back to city and within a year be at a midtable epl club.


4.) 12 Dec 2016 05:37:41
think you can buy a player on loan but said player still needs to complete loan, so if PR was bought in jan, we would still have him till end of season, Eds should be able to clear that up.

{Ed001's Note - no, the loan contract can be ended early and the player transferred elsewhere.}


5.) 12 Dec 2016 06:54:49
cheers Ed, has it always been that way or has rules changed?, i seem to remember the same discussions when we had guidetti?

{Ed001's Note - always been that way. It is just that there are issues with selling a player on loan, as you have to come to an agreement with the club who have a contract to loan him, as well as the buying club. It does happen, but rarely. Usually it is when a player is struggling on his loan spell, or the club loaning the player in needs money and they are offered compensation by the selling club.}


6.) 12 Dec 2016 07:22:39
Cheers Ed.

{Ed001's Note - some clubs do put a clause in the loan contract regarding a compensation package in the case of a sale during the loan. Not so sure if City are one of those though, as they had no intention of selling him when they sent him out to you on loan.}


7.) 12 Dec 2016 08:42:13
I also think it depends on what the contract is. Casting my mind back to Deila's first season, we had Guidetti on loan and I know there was something in that contract that prevented someone buying him until the loan period was finished.


 

 

09 Dec 2016 14:02:37
With sinclair and forrest injured and roberts not our player and europe over. should we give gms and christie an extended run In the team to see if they can step up/ improve under rodgers.

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1.) 09 Dec 2016 15:05:06
I think we should get the best out of roberts while we have him, but as season wears on and we keep playing like we are there will probably be plenty of time to mix the team up as the season wears on if we pretty much wrap the league up by february.


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2017 12:55:22
Augustinson. . he stood out that night haven't seen anymore of him though.

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05 Jan 2017 12:51:29
Seen their game at home vs leicester and they had a young guy playing at left back and he was outstanding (I thought) . wasn't boils sen can't remember his na me and I just ckecked it two mins ago first name was Ludwig.

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26 Oct 2016 18:55:01
8 changes and still a strong looking team.

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20 Aug 2016 17:03:58
But they are hardly ambitious signings which was my point . ajer is far from 1st team dembele is back up striker they are projects . de vries better than Gordon? Toure when all fit will he play every week? but I agree he was needed short term sinclair starts great every team he plays for then falls away (I hope he changes here) . out of 5 one guaranteed starter in sinclair.

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20 Aug 2016 10:18:21
Ambitious? Sos bhoy? two projects ajer and dembele . identified by delia tenure. was that not ambitious then? . . wvee signed a gk who half the fans don't agree if better than Gordon or will Indeed replace Gordon. . a 27 year old winger who has floated around epl and championship loans never living up to his promise and a cb at the end of his career. all signings were needed but not the most ambitious imo . between now and the window will tell how ambitious the club is . I want class buys not to be a development club for epl sides .

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24 May 2017 12:25:58
Timmalloy? Wasn't he a hotel bell hop.

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20 May 2017 09:50:22
If roberts signs he is second choice to him on the rw. and Sinclair on lw . He could soon be overtaking in all positions available to him by the likes of Christie. Miller. nesbitt. johnstone. malky drop lustig. Gamboa who is faster and hinder Ralston to accommodate him? He is having his best season since breaking in to tbe team i agree . but players come to point where they are not going to progress or be the best option for the team and I think jf is approaching that stage in his Celtic career.

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17 May 2017 12:26:48
Thought they here cycling . island bhoy.

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12 May 2017 10:36:50
Jim McIntyre is doing a great job with the development squad. would it be an idea to involve him in the 1st team set up (might be already) to learn from rodgers experience . as a future replacement for him . as with all tbe will in tbe world i think rodgers will leave before 10/ 11.in a row . (think financial backing will be vital )

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10 May 2017 17:54:37
ed . re Henderson your own thoughts or have you heard something . delbhoy isn't that what kouassi was brought in for. and on him ed is he still hampered by malaria ( was it? )

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{Ed007's Note - It's just my own thought mate. I like him but he doesn't seem to be making any inroads in the squad and I think Neil Lennon could fancy taking him at Hibs if a deal's possible. Lennon will be looking for players he's worked with, can trust and has Premiership experience so I can see him looking to take a couple of fringe players from us.
I know they're free so not technically our players but I'll be surprised if Commons and Efe don't end up at Easter Road