07 Dec 2016 14:16:31
They tossers at eufa have charged us with crowd disturbances and letting g off fireworks they really have a thing for us, add read the city fans had been responsible for the disturbance but not sure tbh.

1.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 15:26:50
Mally, the fans that bring fireworks to a match surely know that they are getting the club into trouble, so why do they keep doing it? .
Whether they agree with Uefa's rules or not regarding fireworks, they must know that the club will get charged, so what are they trying to prove. If they don't stop this kind of thing, it'll happen eventually that we will get our ground closed, and we will have to play a match behind closed doors, is that what they want? .
It's a shame that after a really good performance, this kind of thing just gives everyone who is hostile to us a reason to have a go at us and take the moral high ground.

2.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 16:52:21
We are an easy target and a stick- on to pay their prawn sandwich and Perrier bill after every round of games.
It's true there are other - more high profile culprits using these Flares and squibs but we are a soft touch without any clout or muscle within uefa and our support should stop giving these parasites excuses to fine our club.

3.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 17:08:18
I've posted before on a section of our away support in Europe. Again the club is brought into disrepute by a section who purport to be ceLtic fans. Everyone knows the score regarding banners, songs, pyrotechnics including fireworks. Everyone knows that the club will be in the dock if UEFA's rules are broken. The so called fans who obviously don't care a jot for repercussions and our club's reputation in my experience do not come from the week in week out supporters but go along for the trip, have no real Celtic love or affinity. I'm sorry to say the only answer is for CFC to refuse tickets. I know the majority who go to away European games are fine ambassadors for our club and countries (Scotland and Ireland) but this must be stopped before Celtic Park is closed for a home Euro tie. What's the answer bhoy s and girls? How can we, the Celtic support along with the club put a stop to this behaviour? There must be a way. My thoughts are take no away tickets. What's the thinking on this?

{Ed007's Note - I think it's brilliant that we have the best away support in Europe and I couldn't give a toss what the panty wetters like you or UEFA think. Didn't you say (probably hoped) they were going to shut or ground for waving Palestinian flags - how did that work out? A poxy £8615 fine and I bet your were RAGING about that!
I'm just hoping that as we're playing on Friday night this week the GB have some pyro left over from Manchester for Firhill - just to annoy people like you.
As for Celtic refusing tickets, I'd rather they refused to give them to people like you.}

4.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 17:53:27
What's that I hear is it panty wetters coming out their coffins from what I heard from people who were at the game the city fans started the trouble and our fans reacted.

5.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 17:54:12
It's bad enough that the fiddlers and con men who have taken over the running of football in most Countries and especially in UEFA and FIFA without some of our fans who are only seen at our bigger more glamorous games try to keep our best supporters at home . Celtic Park would be a sad half empty grave yard like place if it wasn't for the wit and humour and support of these people . Nearly always when we score at home the players head to the G B end of the crowd . I wonder how often they head to the quiet Joes in the crowd .

One of the main problems is that UEFA don't apply their rules uniformly across Europe, as some fans at some clubs seem to get away with flares, rockets etc.

6.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 17:56:58
Evening Ed. Bit touchy there. Rules are rules and if some of our support continually break them then we get in trouble and our reputation gets tarnished. That's straight for I'd have thought? Irresponsible of you to say you don't give a toss what UEFA think. It's their competition, their rules (for all clubs) . If they are broken as our fans continually do we cop it, simple. Same situation with the Palestinian flags. Of course I didn't want or ever want our ground closed. All I was saying was that if we keep transgression it could come to that. Been a regular attendee since September 1966 Ed so 50 years a Tim, win, lose or draw. I only have the good of our club at heart, love them with all my heart. Okay, if we don't refuse away tickets what then? Are you happy to let the guys that besmirch our club's good name to continue doing so. Seems that way from your comments.

{Ed007's Note - I don't see anyone besmirching our Club's name except for you on here moaning about a couple of flares, it's pretty pathetic. You only seem to appear to moan about these things so you can see why I don't really care what you think about anything and especially not how Celtic fans should behave.}

7.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 19:42:36
Old Bhoy, you can't define how true a supporter is just by the noise they make.
I sit next to a man who is in his seventies, he doesn't make the kind of noise that someone in the Green Brigade makes, but he has supported Celtic for over 60 years, are you saying that he isn't as good a fan because he doesn't let off flares?
I just can't understand why somebody who claims to be such a true supporter can take a flare to a match knowing that by setting off that flare they are going to land the club with a fine, how on earth is that supporting the club?
I am not sticking up for Uefa or FIFA, but unless we just pick up our ball and go and play amongst ourselves, what alternative is there but to play by their rules in their competitions.
If setting off flares is no big deal, surely then it shouldn't be a big deal not to do it, it would save the club some cash, and stop the clubs good name being dragged down.

{Ed007's Note - You must admit though, Gerry they do look quality if it's a dark winter's night and some of the pyro throughout Europe looks amazing. Places like Turkey, Italy and Eastern European countries have all seen some cracking displays.
I wouldn't fancy telling a Juve or Galatasaray supporter they're not a true fan because they took a flare to a game.}

8.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 20:06:03
The authorities don't want to stop people doing using flares etc and is why we see it go unnoticed in some places. The police can fine an individual, UEFA can fine a club and the clubs themselves know that these people will continue to buy tickets/ merch and a UEFA fine is usually small change to the clubs that get hit (there are a few exceptions to this) Yes clubs will boot the odd person out to make it look like they care but if there was any seriousness about this we wouldn't have all the puff and bluster to pander to the easily offended brigade and the point and shout shenannigans brigade, we would have serious action taken against folk.

I personally don't care if these things are used in stadia as its never affected me negatively when I've been around them (cant say the same for everyone though to be fair) . However knowing some of the idiots that do use them i don't exactly feel safe about it. Perhaps we need to train our Ultras in Pyro Management and get City and Guilds Pyro Certificates before they can be used? . We also need to ensure that the flares used are lung friendly all natural vegan smoke bombs.

{Ed007's Note - Hey stranger, how's things?}

9.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 20:15:15
Really don't get all the fuss, our fans r superb, especially away n I see no harm in what they are doing. Other clubs fans aren't playing by these so called rules n don't get punished, so I feel that if were getting punished others should be too, but they aren't so it's double standards n the fans shows, including the 67 light show r superb as well as with the fireworks n smoke bombs, long may it continue I say.
Hail hail.

10.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 15:38:50
It's actually staggering that these clowns at UEFA have charged us less than 24 hours after the game finished! They definitely look like they've got it in for our club by the way!

11.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 19:10:18
How people can moan about our support is beyond me, Let the people sing.

12.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 20:43:48
Awright Ed. i'm good ta, hows tricks yourself? hope the leg isn't giving as much grief these days? been a long time since I've posted here, always been lurking though good to see its all still ticking over.

{Ed007's Note - Ach it's just the same mate. Nice to hear from you btw, you should drop by the live chat one night.}

13.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 21:02:19
ED, you would also have to admit that Celtic's reputation for having one of the best atmospheres in Europe has got nothing to do with letting off flares.
At what point would you say enough is enough, is it when the fines go up to £50.000, or £100.000, or £1m.
It doesn't matter what I think about the rules on flares, the fact is that Uefa keeps fining us, I would much rather that money stayed in our coffers, rather than send it to Uefa so they can lavish it on themselves at our expense.

{Ed007's Note - And you have to admit that a couple of flares isn't going to tarnish the Celtic supports' reputation with anyone. The only people who seem to get upset about it are some Celtic fans and TRIFC fans, there's not even a mention of it on the Club website from what I can see.
I'll never say enough is enough, it's up to the Club and police to stop it and the Club don't seem to be bothering, perhaps they just see it as part of having the best support in Europe, after all, we're hardly ripping cities apart and headlining News at Ten.
Do you stick folk in to stewards for smoking in the toilet, what about young lads putting a half bottle into their cola cup or the old boy that sneaks his hip flask out for a nip on a cold day?}

14.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 21:25:53
In the words of the immortal jock stein "football without fans is nothing".

Our fans are renowned all over the world for all the right reasons.

It will take a bit more than a cheeseburger and a couple flares to stop me being a proud tim.

HH.

15.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 21:45:05
Tick67

Pretty sure that immortal phrase could do with an update for the modern game.

' football without fans without disposable income and a panache for being irked or offended by something trivial is nothing'

Ed, will be sure to check out the live bit at some point in the near future, however i do find it hard to do 1 thing at a time nevermind 2 ( i have to pause the telly before i can shout about the ref for example)

{Ed007's Note - :-D

16.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 22:24:42
Haha evinguu, very fitting mate 😀.

17.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 22:47:47
The person who reported Celtic fans is an ex member of the Linfield Board . He has served 21 years on the Board of Rangers Favourite club .
That explains fully why we UEFA are in a position to raise charges against Celtic almost before the game is over .
As long as this bigot is a UEFA crowd observer we will be in trouble in Europe.

{Ed007's Note - Are you sure he was on the the Linfield board, Chris? Crawford Wilson was president of the County Antrim FA before his UEFA gig but I've never heard of him having anything to do with Linfield in any official capacity.}

18.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 23:29:42
Ed The information i have is that because of the great work he had done at club level Crawford was awarded by County Antrim FA and appointed President .

I may be wrong but I think u would have to be a Board Member of a member club to become President of County Antrim FA ( never regarded as a warm house for R Cs)

{Ed007's Note - Fair doos mate.}

19.) 08 Dec 2016
08 Dec 2016 21:34:08
Does anybody know for sure who started the crowd trouble but seems uefa have blamed us.

20.) 08 Dec 2016
08 Dec 2016 22:30:11
Mallthetally I think the answer lies with Crawford Wilson from the North of Ireland.