14 Oct 2016 00:14:03
Bit of a change of topic but has anyone kept a tab on nesbitt since his move?
All I could see online after a quick searxh was six appearances (wiki) . It's one of the only times I think I've wanted promising senior youth to stay at the club. I don't know the lad but I doubt his heart is in it being away with what's happening now.

{Ed007's Note - Have a read at this:

http://www.celticfc.net/news/11417?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


1.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 00:47:00
Cheers ed for the link. I'm looking forward to seeing him play for us again.

{Ed007's Note - We've got some fantastic youngsters at the Club just now, the big question is if they can make the step up to the first team. A player like Tierney might turn out to be a once in a blue moon product but we should be consistently producing players capable of performing and dominating at the domestic level, producing players that are good enough for Dundee or St Johnstone helps Scottish football but it doesn't really help Celtic.}


2.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 11:37:50
I am sure I read that almost every team in Scotland had someone who had been in celtics youth system at one point?


3.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 08:41:38
Well it does in the end Ed as it makes the league more competitive so in the long run it will benefit us Ed. Just my opinion though.

{Ed007's Note - So when's that going to happen, when is the end? Since Lennoxtown opened we've had McGeady and now Tierney come through and every other one has went onto become journeymen players, a season here, a season there then a 'big money' move to an English Champoinship team before flopping down there and coming back up the road with their tail between their legs to get back on the Scottish merry go round. There's very few players left Celtic as a youngster that have went on and proved we made a mistake.
If the player isn't good enough for Celtic he's hardly going to help make Kilmarnock title contenders is he?}


4.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 11:58:19
Would you add maloney to the list with mcgeady and Tierney ed?

{Ed007's Note - No.}


5.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 12:33:03
Why not ed?
He's had a better career away from celtic than mcgeady I'd say.

{Ed007's Note - Shaun Maloney left Celtic for Aston Villa in January 2007 - that's a whole 10 months before Lennoxtown opened.}


6.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 12:46:19
I've seen a good number of youngsters over the years trying to break through via the BP Youths, Reserves and now Development Squad and the amount who have reached their peak at that level beggars belief. Out of the current crop I have hope for are Connor Hazard, Sam Wardrop, Joe Thomson, Mark Hill, Calvin Miller and Aiden Nesbitt. I've got my doubts about Jack Aitchison and Tony Ralston but what do I know about youth development that the club's coaches don't see on a day to day basis.

Stengo.


7.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 13:11:32
Andy Robertson was there before moving to queens park. Isam feruz as well but he has not done it yet. But yeah there have not been many.

I think one of the reasons is that managers are under pressure to win games, so don't give many the youngsters a chance. Tierney was lucky as Izzy was making defensive mistakes and mulgrew was injured. This is why I would like to trim squad and only have 2 seniors for each position.

{Ed007's Note - But would Andy Robertson have become the player he is if he had stayed at Celtic? I seriously doubt it, at some point young players need to be given a a shot in the first-team, some of them will surprise us and kick-on and some will surprise us and fail.}


8.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 13:34:54
Can't say that mcgeady was a product of Lennoxtown then either ed007.
He made his first team debut 3 years before it opened.

{Ed007's Note - Fair point.}


9.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 14:53:11
I think we are making the same point, that players need opportunities in the first team to continue developing and it is hard to get them at Celtic.

I would actually like reserve league brought back as that gives players more chance to play against senior players. Would also help managers keep squad players happy and up to speed.


10.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 14:57:30
Jackson Irvine Ed, biggest disappointment for me!

8 weeks after signing for Ross County the Sunday papers were waxing lyrical about him

One season @ County and got a decent move to the championship albeit to the team just promoted but within like Scott Sinclair with us had scored 4 in first five or 5 in 6

In RD's entire tenure we struggled with the CDM position constantly stuck with Efe and there was a boy who could also play CH!

He won't be at Burton long IMHO because he is more defensively minded than forward thinking and still scoring now (y)


11.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 16:30:32
I always think there is something wrong as for years now we have been loaning out excellent youngsters and getting ordinary young players back . We have a major problem as our top youngsters probably need the experience of playing week in week out . Too often players go to smaller clubs and halve way through their loan period they are no longer certain of first team starts .
I suppose just as we normally don't take that well to players who are just on loan, I suppose manager and fans may not be over fond of our players loaned out .
The age our players go at is often an age when they leave home first and the women and the beer may play a bigger role in their life than maybe they should.


12.) 14 Oct 2016
14 Oct 2016 18:28:40
I am friendly with a Burton lad (Derby is his main team) who raves about Irvine. Been Albions best player and regularly scores.


13.) 15 Oct 2016
15 Oct 2016 11:13:28
I watched the youth team against Varceliba and I'm sorry but there was no outstanding talent on show. We produce players for the Dundees, Aberdeenshire and lower level championship teams at best.

Every year we read about this great talent and it never, materialises.

Apart from KT we have produced jack rubbish in over ten years and the current bunch are no better than any I have watched.

The tragic truth is we produce on the whole journeymen for a world dominated by artisans.

The whole project is a shambles. KT the inky player to make a first team position his own in ten years?

Total waste of time and money up until now.

Scotland as a footballing country is now a sad sorry tale of mediocrity and less technical ability than anyone we play against. We might be able to muscle and win but basic skills are woefully absent.

We are good at running about but not much else.


14.) 15 Oct 2016
15 Oct 2016 13:32:03
I must say I agree about Irvine every game I have seen him play he is one of the better players on the park.