07 Feb 2016 21:18:41
Can someone explain to me what David moyes has done in his managerial career to make everyone think he could be our saviour, what has he done got Everton in the top 4 once. that's the type on innovative manager we need hahaha pmsl.


1.) 07 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 21:43:09
Hey folks new on this been reading it for a long time. To answer your question. What did strachan do before he was celtic manager?


2.) 07 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 21:46:10
He got Man Utd into Europe and avoided relegation with Real Sociedad.


3.) 07 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 22:00:22
I agree about Moyes, he wouldn't be my choice either! I think the attraction with him in England was the fact he was so frugal, - the budget Kenwright gave him was one of the lowest in the league! He is a great judge of player, I also think his ideas are a little draconian, I wouldn't say he's backward but when you hear him speak he does come across out of touch a bit! Supposedly the sessions he put on at Utd had all the players mystified, I think they used to take the p•ss out him big time! I think he would improve us, especially defensively, I think he's out the George Graham school of defending. I just think his level is more mid table of the English Premier League! He obviously wouldn't have got the Utd job if Fergie wasn't the manager! I also have to say I read a few posts earlier, and I like ParadiseWon, he's an intelligent guy, but I don't rate Stubbs either, well not yet, like someone else said, - Peter Houston has a far better CV, for me though the best manager currently in Scotland is Paul Hartley, 2 promotions, kept Dundee up easily, cruising again, not spent a bean! He talks well, and is very shrewd! He certainly doesn't suffer fools! I don't mean as manager now, but for the future or as part of a management team in the very near future!


4.) 07 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 22:12:15
And done all that in under two years 😉.


5.) 08 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 23:04:54
Much like what Ronnies done at Celtic.


6.) 08 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 23:27:39
Well you've got to be fair - it's not that Hartley is a Celtic man, I couldn't care less about that, he had a bit about him as a player and done well in a very short space of time like you said, well I think you're talking about him PP. As we all know, life is the greatest university, and Hartley seems quite wide, as we say in Glasgow, I think that's a good thing in management. Peter Houston is the same, he used to really annoy me, and I thought he specifically didn't have any time for Celtic, I've been told he's also a Celtic man, not that it matters (even 1%) I just mean it shows he's a winner because he used to give Lennon dog's abuse! Oh and don't have nightmares, but Robbie Nielson has also done a great job! I'd still prefer a Bielsa or a Prandelli, but would be happy with Hartley as his lieutenant, or one of them because I think managers should bring in their own people, but many managers these days have 2/ 3 assistants!


7.) 08 Feb 2016
07 Feb 2016 23:28:05
My choice if RD goes would be Alex Neil but have the feeling it will be Stubbs.


8.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 11:04:15
Moyes got United out of europe, not into it. He also destroyed every bit of confidence and said "Manutd must try to emulate Manchester City" after 0-3 at Old Trafford. This is the one you want instead of RD? Well the best of luck to you!


9.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 12:57:22
Im a Ronny fan but I am starting to lose patience however Moyes and stubbs are defo not the answer.


10.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 13:30:48
Delphic, I was responding to BigBhoy's appraisal with a joke about the fact he'd been sacked twice in two years.

As for your point re Hartley, I agree. I think that he'd be a great choice (if we were looking at the SPFL) but my point yesterday was that Houston has a great record with Falkirk, and Mcinnes has a really good record with Aberdeen, and then you get into the John Hughes, Alan Stubbs territory. All these managers would be dismissed as cheap/ poor options but some have the advantage of a Celtic connection that will elicit a certain degree of leeway.

If I had to pick from Scotland -- and by Scotland, I mean the top league for obvious reasons -- then I'd say McInnes or Hartley.


11.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 14:03:09
I understand why you all are starting to lose patience but please hang on cause this is excactly how it went for Deila in his last club.
He dud have a couple of down seasons before the team started working.
His "philosophy" if you like, everybody has to do their share of movements and defencive work or it will not work.
Pretty much the same kind of football Klopp wants LFC to play, and after so much changes in the defence i think any manager would have these issues to have to figure out.


12.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 14:52:18
What's the obsession with every player or manager having to be from the top league. Everybody's got to start somewhere, I'm not saying Stubbs is the answer but a lot of top players or managers started in lower leagues than ours.


13.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 15:27:24
I like reading what Norwegian Red has to say because he knows more about RD than any of us. I just think we would benefit from him being able to pick his own coaches and players. It frustrates me the way we are run at the moment.


14.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 15:52:19
Stephbhoy-

I don't know if you are referring to my above post?

I don't have an obsession with the top league, but if we are replacing RD for: not being experienced enough etc, or for coming from the Norwegian leagues etc, or the job being too big for him, (some of the reasons I've heard mentioned) then getting an unproven manager from the lower leagues of Scotland ain't going to answer any of those questions/ concerns.

As well as which, I hear Celtic fans downplaying what Mark Warbuton is doing at Rangers (because it's the Championship) whilst simultaneously bigging up the work Alan Stubbs has done at Hibs and putting him forth as a Celtic manager. It's hypocritical nonsense.

And before anyone compares Stubbs budget with that of Warbuton's, I've already said Peter Houston has outdone them both in relative terms, with a young team playing attacking football.

Finally, have we forgotten what happened when Alan 'Manager of the Year' stepped into the top league?

And for the record, I agree with NorwegianRed. I don't think RD should be sacked.


15.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 17:12:21
Poet at what stage do you draw a line under the Ronnie experiment? Is it if he fails to get into CL again? Is it if we fail to win the league? Where is the lone because we are getting pretty close to it. Or is it we stick with him no matter. If Rangers come up and beat us in the Scottish cup? What is it because the football is poor so why is he still supported?


16.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 17:04:42
Wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, loads of folk on here dismiss players that haven't played in top leagues. All am saying is some players start at the bottom and work hard to get to the top. Just because u don't get cherry picked at youth level doesn't mean u can't get to the top.


17.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 18:10:26
Aindoh, I understand that u often have pointed out R D as not good enough to manage Celtic. You now seem to be advocating David Moyes for Celtic job as u think he is as good as R. D . Surely most people would want, deserve better .
That won't be easy as no doubt the new man will have to continue R D's policy concentrating on very young players, as there isn't and won't be the money to buy the finished article . Supporters will have to be patient with eithe R D or his replacement.


18.) 08 Feb 2016
08 Feb 2016 22:04:15
Johnnymac - if he doesn't win the league, he has to go because his position would become untenable. If he wins the league (with the Scottish Cup) I think that's a successful season.