Celtic Rumours Archive September 07 2011

07 Sep 2011 22:13:56
Rumors in Glasgow Steed Malbranque is in town to sign for one of the old firm! Anyone thing he would be a good signing?

I would doubt that very much considering Steed left the French club he was playing for on Monday to care for his very ill son!

JD {Ed007's Note - That was a case of very poor journalism by the Daily Mail. Steed Malbranque has two healthy daughters, no sons. He fell out with his father, who is also his agent and that is why his contract at St Etienne was cancelled. I don't know any more details but I can 100% assure everyone that the story regarding his son is completely false, he doesn't have a son.}

About Steed Malbranque ment to be going to rangers being spoke about on twitter but hopefully we can get another defender would be nice to have a good defensive line Scooty52

Would he be allowed to do that? I think you have to be a free agent when the window closes to sign for another club. His contract was cancelled after the window closed. This happened with Steven Pressley. His contract was cancelled at Hearts but even though he signed for us he could not officially play until the next transfer window opened.

In answer to the question, no he would not be. He was never actually any good and St Etiene did not exactly make a big effort to keep him. Perhaps better than Healy but worse than Douf

David

07 Sep 2011 18:05:04
Just a thought.

See when we win (spl, or Scottish cup, etc) would it be worth while us just Payin sammy a golden hand shake if we don't get shot of him in the transfer window or if he stands his ground ? Sure we would lose 1-2 million but would be a no bad plan b? {Ed007's Note - He was given a new contract so he couldn't leave for nothing. If Peter Lawwell had agreed to pay Samaras the money he was entitled to he would have left last week.}

Just a thought.

How about getting behind the guy while he's here instead of constantly talking about schemes to force him out of the club.

I agree we could be doing with the transfer money, and his performances have been woeful bar a few for over a season, but his own fans booing him or constantly getting on his back won't improve his confidence.

I think the only way we get rid of Sammi is if he puts in a request, which might seem unlikely. However with a fit Hooper and Stokes and the new lad Bangura he might find himself in a comfy seat in the stand never mind one on the bench.
I think if all of the aforementioned strikers stay fit and have form then he might be asking for a move next summer or possibly even sooner.
January would be the prime time for us as it would give Lenny the chance to go back in for Diawara.
We can but dream. lo)
HH
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Well he is still our player like it or not. Hopefully this will be the season Samaras grows a pair and starts being a matchwinner for us.

I'm not the biggest fan of Samaras but he's our player and Lennon thinks highly of him. While he's at our club I will cheer for him every time he pulls on the famous hoops. He can be brilliant at times and probably needs more confidence to keep it going which isn't going to happen if he is put down all the time.

Nice to see some are backing the hoops instead of jumping on the bandwagon

The thing with Sammy is he is actually a good player. At times he can be unbelievable. He can take players on and can finish well. The frustrating bit is, for 1 reason or another, he doesn't show it often. I personally think that he over thinks things. When I used to play football alot, If I had time or was playing an unimportant game I'd fu(k up. If you put me in a big game and players all around be, i'd take the pi$$ something rotten. I think sammy is the same. When he uses instict he plays. When he thinks, he's gash. What do the rest of you bhoys and ghirls think?
Ben Bhoy 1916 {Ed007's Note - Evening Ben, I think he drifts out wide too often and is hitting balls in that he should be in the box waiting for. He isn't the best, but at least he isn't David Healy!}

I've never been a big fan of Samaras. I think this is maybe through frustration more than anything else. For all that he possesses he just does not cut it at the club. Presense, for his size just does not give that "lead the line" that Sutton/Hartson did. He's got pace, a decent touch but too many times it's the wrong decision. He also has the misfortune of having a lethargic look around him which doesnt enderar him to the support. Earlier poster was also spot on when he said that he spends far too much time outside the box. Play him closer to Hooper, dont let him drift back or wide and see if that improves matters

I agree with pretty much what's being said, he is inconsistent, lazy etc etc but yet sometimes brilliant. I don't think he would be too bad as an impact player for certain games or coming from the bench. The only thing i disagree with is the lead the line like Sutton / Hartson......... well that's because both of them were worth about 6 million each even back then, those days are gone so lets forget about the he's not as good as them rubbish and maybe give him a bit of support. For me he is the typical "needs the confidence" type of player for a change or at least till Jan lets give him some. The 18th Sep could be a big day for Sammi if NL goes with what seems to be his plan A at Ibrox

Is it not about time we started getting behind everyone of our players and stopped picking on the ones highlighted in the rangers biased press, of course they want the Celtic fans to get on his back, sammy has put the rangers defence under more pressure than any of the other strikers of late and seems to be the only one who(when on his game) can cause them problems. His main problem is he seems to be trying to hard to impress the fans- well maybe not trying to hard , but certainly trying to many things. So let's get behind him and see his confidence grow.

07 Sep 2011 13:01:43
Regarding the SIon appeal, i would think that a legal court could rule that uefa acted illegaly, IF, its true that sion have the signed clearance for the players from uefa that they clim to have.
However, that same court could not rule that sion MUST be reinstated, it would be more likely that compenstion would be awarded to sion for money lost.
They must have some case if 8 solicitors are content to go to court with it, i know solicitors work for a fee but in this case they risk ruining their reputation if it is as cut and dried as we have been led to think.

I think UEFA have it in the charter or mandate where is states that no member club can take court action against them. By doing so Sion will seal their own fate as well as the fates of any other Swiss clubs left in any UEFA competitions.

Sion I'm sure are well aware of this and also were well aware to try and muddy the water by going to the Swiss courts with this matter in the first place.
They knew that they should have gone to the correct authorities here. However that would have meant the Court of Arbitration for Sport, who are the same body who found Sion guilty in the first place and imposed the signing embargo in the first place, so there was no chance of that.

Their chairman, Christian Constantin, as Ed007 has mentioned on more than one occasion is totally bonkers and thinks he can outflank even the keenest legal minds in Europe. He also has so much dosh that he thinks he can buy anything but I think he is on a hiding to nothing here.

The phrase it's my baw springs to mind here when going to war with UEFA and as this guy will soon discover making the kind of actions has taken and statements he has made about the governing body does not gain you any favours in the corridors of power in Nyon.

An interesting few days ahead me thinks.

HH
/BB {Ed007's Note - You are right mate, it breaks FIFA/UEFA stature (law) to take legal action against them, this is another reason that will be used against them.}

Might also suggest that these competitions are by invitation. I don't think that you are automatically entered into the competition by virtue of your league position. Might be wrong though. So, its not about employment law for these players, but competition rules, that were firmly bent backwards. That said, it's not great preparation for a hefty 1st game against Athletico....

That is correct, when the Swiss FA nominated Sion to play in the Europa league, they signed on the dotted line that the rules of UEFA would be followed.

I suggest you purchase a book on international private law. A Swiss court has no jurisdiction over UEFA. The issue of concern is that the court of arbitration for sport sits in Switzerland and it is they who have the final say.

UEFA and FIFA are both chartered in Switzerland making them subject to Swiss Law these organisations cannot operate with their own set of rules with the money that is earned with European competition it was only a matter of time before a club took legal action after all football is a business these days. CAS based its assessment on the Swiss law principle of ?��Ǩ?�positive interest?��Ǩ�� Sion challenged this in court and their challenge was upheld forcing the Swiss FA to accept that the players in question were allowed to be signed and played. This arguement rumble on and on, one thing is for sure there will be a few more appeals but I think it will be safe to say Celtic will stay in this years Europa League. {Ed007's Note - UEFA have not received any appeal from Sion and they only have till 23.00 today to do it. Other Swiss teams are threatening legal action against Sion as well.}

07 Sep 2011 11:14:59
hey guys

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Tony

To the six of you disagreeing with this sentiment, you really are sad sad people, well done Tony (true gers fan) Timalloy

06 Sep 2011 23:45:15
ed can you tell me, if sion win there case does that mean we can basically forget about transfer Windows from now on as we could Sig. anyone anytime the way we used too.

hail hail

Marco1888 {Ed007's Note - TBH I don't know what the ramifications would be, that is why I don't think they can win. If you do something wrong at work, you get warnings/sacked. Go to court and someone will decide if it is was fair. If you broke the companies rules you would probably lose your case. They haven't broken any criminal laws, they have broke the rules of an organisation they are part of, there is a difference.}

Transfer window is the same whether we are in europe or not.
Every january we are controlled by the window, when was the last time we were in europe in january, that should answer your question

So funny the only way celtic get in to europe is through another teams legal misfortunes and its only gonna be even more embarrising celtic fans and you all know it lemon does not know his a hole from his earhole lmao {Ed007's Note - Watch you don't laugh that ar5e right off, you might find it difficult to speak after that. So this is what Rangers fans mean with banter? Hilarious, absolutely hilarious.}