Celtic Rumours Archive December 06 2012

06 Dec 2012 23:25:02
Hi ed. Hay bhoys and ghirls. I haven't been on along time but what Lenny and the bhoys has achieve in the Champions league is amazing. All the talk is about Celtic. Even the younger kids are all talking about Celtic. Life couldn't get any better. Is MrsE still around lol?? Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - Hi BIM, long time no speak. I hope you and the family are well.}

All good Ed. How's the leg? am sure the run in the champions league is helping it ;) bigirishmac {Ed007'os Note - My leg is not bad thanks, jumping out my seat last night didn't help! Or being on my knees praying at Commons penalty. All kidding aside I am absolutely delighted that we qualified. After Apoel Nicosia last year showing that well organised teams can get results that matter, and our own performance in the EL last season I was quietly confident we could do it all along although I would have took a draw at home to Barca before the game!}

Yes BIM, i'm still here although i've aged about 20 years with the recent CL games. I've been at the homes games and never enjoyed the Barcelona one until the final whistle lol.

It was the longest game ever !

Last night was just superb, what an achievement. I've seen foreign papers etc all about Celtic...its magic :-)

Mrs E

06 Dec 2012 21:38:46
Right all ifs and buts but think it could be a interesting post:

IMO wanyama and hooper are our most players likely to leave if the right price comes in on January however if these two or one were to go how much (being in the real works here lol) would be a good price I think

Wanyama - 8/9million + add one

Hooper 6/7million + add one (tops)

Which then throws on my next question:if they stay which I think they will,does lawwell say to Neil.how much do we need to improve our chances to get through to the 1/4 finals ? According to reports were due around 20 odds for our games so far so hopefully 2/3 players in to tighten up a few loose ends ?

Lenny

There's no chance we will be going out and buying 3 players in january. It will depend on who we get as to whether we bring in any at all. Just out of curiosity, how much of the 25-30 million we have earned from Champion League are you expecting Celtic to spend whether it be in january or next season?

Personally i want the debt cleared altogether. Then if we lose hooper and wanyama which i expect (definitely Hooper 5-6 million, Wanyama only if the right money is offered 15 million) i would be delighted if they ev reinvested that considerable amount of money on the playing squad to replace these 2 and strengthen other area's.

Too many people will argue that we dont need the money. The board see it as they want the money, and will sell player regardless of euro competition. However, i cant see anyone (except miko) leaving before the summer

Your numbers are woefully low. Put a one in front of Hoopers fee and a two in front of wanyamas. One more round in the CL and those will be realistic figures. Sopot Celt

Both undervalued

Good teams never get rid of their best players take note

Sopot your dreaming with those figures mate. Hooper will go for no more than 7.5 million. Wanyama in my opinion is worth 16-18 million. But if he doesn't sign a new contract it will be 2 years left and they won't want him going into his last year because the vultures will be circling. I could see him going for 12-14 million and that will be less than he's worth. This is just the reality bhoys!

Ive got a wee feeling if wanyama goes itl be less than everyones quoting on here i hope not but well have to wait and see

I cant see either of them leaving in January, they will be cup tied for the Champions League won't they? So they arent gonna leave for another club where they wont get any Champions League football. Summer? Yes.

Quack

Wanyama is easily the best player in a celtic shirt since larsson. Look at the boy move. he's different gravy. the money that's being mentioned is only relevant if he wants to leave. To whom? Chelsea? man city? barcalona? He might. but it'd be awfully stupid. he can play against barca with the team lennon has assmbled - not with chelsea or city. Much less sunderland. we've proved our point, and put our team back where they belong. Commons said it right: who will look at a tie in glasgow and not think: ****. Would united fancy it or barca? Hell no.


Im not saying we'll beat any of these teams. but we are formidable this season. We could go all the way and everyone of those players in the other teams knows that. Thats a huge credit to lustig, matthews, giorgios, hooper broony, commons. They are not 'representing scotland' but themselves - and I bet on them going all the way.

@1 I think/hope he has 5million to play with if the right players are there I don't think we will spend any where bear that I do think I loan signing will come in though

Ill 100% agree wanyama is the best tic player in a long time.ill take the highest offer from him however I really don't believe we will get any higher than 12m tops.were a feeder team in a league where the winner gets next to no monies for winning the league.when he does go I think a bidding war could start I hope we do get funny money for him because it was the best 900k we have spent in a long time

Hooper I think no more than 7m he's been pretty poor so far this season really think hes missing stokes still a great player and give him a sniff of the ball at the edge of the box he will score most times

Lenny

07 Dec 2012 11:29:51
some of the point's in this topic are baffling first noone is going to pay £15 million pound for a player playing scotland no matter how good they have looked. wanyama will go for 9 million if he is to go and hooper about 7 million. also celtic will not go all the way to the champions league final i would be happy to have made the last 16 and if you pull out manchester united then its another glamour tie. also in the draw for last 16 then celtic's best bet of progressing would be to be drawn against shalke who are the weakest of the top seeds. all i can say to celtic fan's is enjoy whoever you get in the last 16 and if your eliminated i am sure you will still party.

07 Dec 2012 11:50:31
I would be very suprised if we sell Hooper for any less than £10m. No matter the league he is playing in (SPL in this case)and don't forget he is edging closer &closer to an England call up(which always pushes the price up) he is a goalscorer, and goalscorers are the most sought after players out there,i can definetly see a premiership club....whoever it might be? offering £10m + for him.

In my opinion Wanyama will go for no less than £15m and most probably in the summer (by which time he would have played more CL games against tough opposition) if we hold onto him until the summer AND we get him to extend his contract there could be a bidding war for him in the summer transfer window........make no mistake in Wanyama we have one of the most sought after young midfielders in the game at the moment.....and i trust Peter Lawell and co to get the best money available for our better players IF we are going to sell them.

Remember we are in as good a financial position as we have been for some time,we DO NOT have to sell any player,the only reason we will do so is... if the player REALLY wants to go,and if that's the case we can be quite stubborn with the ammount we will accept for any given player.

We are in a position of strength regarding player sales at the moment (buying low & selling high) and we need to continue this trend,our scouts have found these players,our board have trusted the scouts enough to purchase these young players.....and our coaching and management staff have improved the players from when we bought them.This is the way our club is doing it's buisness these days,and in doing so it means we need to get the BEST possible transfer fee for ANY player we sell.

Peter Lawell will do this imo and will also support Neil Lennon,his coaching staff and our scouts to continue with this policy.....and most importantly continue to improve the team/squad as the years go on.


Sorry for the long post,just my thoughts. Hail Hail! Bhoys and Ghirls.

You lot were on here not all of you i must add but the vast majority were slating hooper in the last 2 weeks or so and suddenly since he scored against spartak he has become a superstar. those who doubted him before the spartak game should hang their heads in shame. also hooper won't go for anymore than 10million and to be fair on the england situation he was only on the verge of a call up for meaningless friendlies he won't be called up for any serious qualifying game. but fraser forster will be called up for qualifying games and england lack serious competition for joe hart who i wouldnt be surprised if he is dropped soon givin his poor form lately.


so hooper will be sold for about 8 or 9 million and wanyama most likely to be around about 10million.

wanyama has looked good so far i admit that but so did other players who have played up here and when they have moved south they just can't cut it. it may not happen with wanyama but english team's will be wary at having overpaid for players playing in scotland before. i would say only one or two players have left the spl and cut it down south don't want to name them but if you think about it then it is obvious who i am talking about.

Hooper has 18 mths left on contract and has turned down recent offers... that values him at around 6 million. .even though that was turned down last year from Southampton Celtic will know come the summer he'll be worth 3m with 1 year left. The board are a business not people who think with their hearts...1 more offer will be made to Hooper before January if thats declined he will be sold for 6 million FACT. ~mnpoi

Who is better Fletcher or Hooper? SopotCelt ps for the record I have consistently praised Hooper.

07 Dec 2012 16:22:14
To all those people saying they are only spl players and English clubs would be wairy about paying to much for them I think you'd are forgetting these players have cl experience and helped there team reach the last 16 so so its not just spl experience they have they have proven them self time and time again in the cl qualifyers and at the top table with the big guns

06 Dec 2012 20:24:25
Well done the Hoops, what a fantastic effort to amass the record 10 point total. On reflection, I'm still shocked we managed to meet the landmark, however we're there and, probably, deservedly so.

Congratulations to NL and all at CP because they've had to endure some criticism along the way.

Paris or Turin for me next, that's what I'd like. If either one materialises, I'm probably gonna go!

And, on the subject of boycotts, what an embarrassment Newco are. They are definitely wounded and convinced the world's against them. They've jeopardised Scottish Football with their financial irregularities and suffered the consequences, however the rest of Scottish Football is to blame?

Now, they are trying to sabotage the SPL and its members by boycotting games. Well, the rest of the clubs in the SPL should stand in unison and fill that stadium in February and I, for one, would definitely be willing to do so, especially as Newco are donating their share.

Where will this end? Something has to be done, and now!

Newco have to realise that they can't bully Scottish Football, they have to show more humility and just concentrate on gaining re-entry into the SPL, or whatever Top Flight league we have in a couple of years because they will also need a strong league, if they want to be in it.

I don't understand CG's strategy in all this, he seems to be playing to the masses, which makes me very intrigued as to his intentions. May have something to do with the share issue??

Miko

You serious say they win? They beat Motherwell after all and united are poor this year who's gonna be the laughing stock after that and at the same time we all fill there pockets, no thanks and if you believe green when he tats they'll give it to charity your mad. Charity begins at home wae that lot

Raff

Miko, i for one, would love to go to back United.

I'd love for the Sevco supporters to be sitting in their pubs (as they all boycotted Sky) and watch a sea of Green and Orange as the teams walk out. All we need is some Ayr United fans to provide the White at one end and we'd really get it up them.

And i don't believe for a second CG will give any money to charity, the same team that kept the AC Milan charity money for their fighting fund! What did the fighting fund do......went to court to get signing ban overturned and laid grass on a barren pitch?

The share issue is Green's mealticket, if he gets more than £5.5m (which he won't) he can walkaway with a tidy profit. As he has already said, he would not lead them into the SPL, he's already got his jacket on ready to depart ibrokes and his "safe house" and return to England

Ha are we a laughing stock this coming from the same set of fannies who wanted to boycott dunfermline because rangers won 6-1 to win the league and the same club to boycott kilmarnock as they obstained from voting in the newco vote and also because they charge ticket prices to much

Not really fussed who we get i'll be there regardless (as usual)
quite fancy malaga tbh, might have a bit of sun! ... MrCheshington

You have a cheek to talk about rangers wanting to boycott dundee united game. celtic fan's are boycotting the killie game because they didnt take up their vote to vote rangers out of the spl also i remember the talk about boycotting dunfermline as well when rangers won 6-1. this is just typical tit for tat between both team's at the end of the day noone should be boycotting their teams game's no matter who it is against.

i would never boycott a game just because the other team did something i didn't agree with that's just like my daddy is bigger than your daddy a lot of fan's need to grow up seriously.

We'll see about the charity. at least united will be able to go public with how much they handed over to these pariahs and charlie boy can be quizzed on where it went. i fancy it will go into a general charitable fund where the waters can be muddied at a later date. how about giving it to one of the local hospitls cahrlie ? to make up for all the tax you cheated them out of. lets hope united destroy his duff team and we can be rid of them for the season. {Ed007's Note - Let's hope it is a draw, see how the boycott pans out if it's a replay...}

06 Dec 2012 18:24:08
Last night lennys lions made me think(again)how lucky iam to be celtic supporter,.,.kbarry

Thanks to Lenny and his boys and Peter Lawwell and his Board for giving us a great Christmas.

Celtic- a top 16 European team.

06 Dec 2012 15:37:42
Did anyone else notice a wee cynical foul from mcgeady on samaras in the injury time last night? samaras was running with the ball and mcgeady, for me intentionally barged into sammys back even tho there were two spartak players tackling him. I just wonder if the wee man done it as a favour for celtic when we were just looking to see the last few minutes out? it seems that way to me, cheers aidan!

Celticthomas

That what i thought when i seen it lol



sweeney007

06 Dec 2012 17:56:44
Funny enough I mentioned that on twitter last night ...Think the wee man knew what he was doing ...TTTS

06 Dec 2012 18:34:44
Exactly what I said wen he did it

Hail hail Aidan never forget were Ur from son

Haha i said that to the missus too!

Melb Bhoy

That did cross my mind as well tbh.

06 Dec 2012 13:46:38
Neil lennon love him or loathe him got his tactics spot on in the champions league just look at chelsea and man city outstanding squad in both camps but cannot defend as a team !
who knows what can happen its the knockout stages one thing for sure it will generate at least 25-30 million pounds in revenue for celtic ...in this current climate without the old firm games it is very well recieved and with rangers in the current position they are in celtic can benefit for a few years

There is no old firm

Agree with above post OF died when oldco rangers died even in the future IF the rangers get into a league where they can play celtic, surely the press must retire this 'old firm' tag (always hated being tarred with the same brush as them)

DB77

Love him,.,.kbarry

Nobody loathes Neill Lennon on this site MATE

06 Dec 2012 13:14:34
Brilliant performance last night. Everyones thoughts no doubt today will be about who we will get next. No matter who I'm sure the bhoys will put on a show.

On another matter is there anyone on here who travelled to Moscow for the Spartak game in 2007 whose flight was delayed for five hours. The flight I'm thinking of was booked as a charter flight through (Harry Hynds) travelled with British Midlands.

It seems there is a new E U ruling that's just come out where you can claim compensation from the airline for flights delayed for over 3 hours if the delay was down to them.
I was on the flight but like most people don't keep boarding passes and the like but you never know somebody might just have the info needed.
If anyone has any info on this can you post it as the compensation is about £480.
Hail! Hail! Proud to be a Tim.

I'm pretty sure you cant claim comp retrospectively

You can under this EU ruling recently reported in some newspapers The Guardian reported something about it on 23/11/2012 or you can check out www.moneysavingexpert.com and various other sites.

06 Dec 2012 12:08:34
Scotland First Minister, Alex Salmond, in Scottish Parliament opens with congratulations to Celtic and Neil Lennon, stating Neil is on his way to being legend.
Leader of opposition replies and disagrees stating he's not on his way to being a legend (implying he already is).

Hail Hail.

06 Dec 2012 12:40:47
Nice gesture from a podgy self seeking fool who has criminalised the Celtic Support.
Keep your congratulations, you cretin, and hang your fat face in shame. Utter, Utter shame on you.

the pea

Re-the pea ,very well put sir

This is true I saw it on TV at 1200hrs today.
He wasn't congratulating Celtic fans. He congratulated Lenny and the Club.
It's not for a fan to tell him to keep his good wishes.

About 20 odd years ago i was in a hotel bar when the fat controller came in with some political chums and sat at the table next to us for a pre dinner g and t. rangers had won the league that very day with sally getting the winner. his gin was swiftly raised to his company in a toast to " alastair mcCoist " jambo my a**e ! true story.
andybhoy

06 Dec 2012 01:30:13
Amazing tonight. The crazy thing was how close Benfica came to winning as well. But that aside, if we had held on just 30 seconds longer at the Nou Camp, we'd have finished TOP of the group.

Great Effort Bhoys.


Melb Bhoy

Correct. I said the same last night.
That very very late goal really hurt.
I didn't want Forrest on as a sub, we were playing defensive and he is out and out attacker. Lenny was asking for trouble with that decision.

Yes and if sammy hasnt scored the last minute winner in russia we would be out

06 Dec 2012 00:54:57
Ed am over the moon tonight with the result. Just looking at all the comments tonight and dont see much about Broony. Not even fit and i thought he was superb. Chased everything,broke down there play. For me was man of the match. Sammy and Commons were class to as was the team. Just wanted to make a wee point about Broony. {Ed007's Note - Brown has split the support for a while, I have always been a fan of his and it is good to see some of the doubters change their mind.}

I had my uncle on facebook (a defector to man utd) who was giving him absolute pelters throughout the match. I was surprised because he looked to be working his socks off and regularly winning possession for us. Got home and watched it again on sky+ and come to the comnclusion my fat uncle is a rocket! Broony is a ledge.

Your fat uncle is a rocket mate dis-own the fat f**k,.,.kbarry

Yer uncle will have his head in his hands when we roast the Red Devils in the next round. That's a plain roast not a premiership spit roast. Sopot Celt

Broony would ALWAYS be my first pick.
Tambhoy