Celtic Rumours Archive March 31 2013

 

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31 Mar 2013 19:07:15
Hi Ed, do you know if we are taking a look at Danny Rose who is on loan at Sunderland?

Personally think he would be great competition for Izzy plus he can play anywhere on the left.

MikeyBhoy88 {Ed007's Note - I haven't heard anything Mikey.}

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31 Mar 2013 16:19:33
Lets not use the poor refereeing of Madden disguise the fact we were very poor today. His list of errors is long but were against both sides. More importantly for us is the reason why we seem to be treading water in clinching this league. Even Joe Ledley, normally a guy you can trust to put it in, was poor. While I realise a lot of our players clocked up a lot of air miles recently, they are hardly flying Ryanair. Of course the injury to Commons made a difference, he was the one player who looked up for it, there can be no excuses. That was not the performance we expect from a Celtic team. Another problem for me is that Lennon seems to out think Lenny tactically lately.

As in the semi final St Mirren had spare men breaking against us from midfield. At times in the first half we had no shape at all to our game. We never dropped off for passes, we never stretched them and we were slow in possession. We don't seem to have enough players who want to get on the ball, Commons apart, and move to create an angle for a pass. Creativity is badly needed.

Player wise Commons, till his injury, Wilson and Izzy, despite his stupid shove in the box, made contributions. The rest were different levels of mediocre. A special bit of clog for Sammi though. Pathetic. He has been living on a few Euro goals this season for long enough. I know he has his fans on this forum, and I have praised his contribution when justified, but is he really doing enough? Has he really done enough for a few years? It is turning out to be a poor climax to a season that offered so much. I remember when Celtic teams gritted their teeth and fought like tigers when faced with adversity and poor refereeing. I have watched Celtic teams who, after getting a man sent off unfairly, would have penned St Mirren in with determination and grit. We are lacking something, a Neil Lennon on the park perhaps, but we better find it soon. green jhedi

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Hey GJ I think its quite simply a case of players winding down before a new job in many cases and an extended holiday in many others. Nobody wants an injury to mess up holiday plans as god knows how that plays out with the high maintenance trophy girlfriends/partners. Of course the players should prioritise other types of trophy to get their hands on but they are and let's be objective, a pretty spoiled and delicate group of human beings and I don't mean the girlfriends!Sopotcelt

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I think we have too many similar type players in midfield with Kyal Wanyama Ledley. We don't appear to have the width to open up space to create chances. Hooper thrives on chances and were not creating enough. Just my opinion.

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I think your spot on gj but 1 more thing from me I don't think Gary Hooper has looked interested in months, his attitude today and overall performances lately have been shocking. i'd drop him and start playing stokes & watt up front. Players that want to be there not ones that don't want to get injured in case it ruins a move in the summer.

The Raff

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Another decent honest post, no blaming the ref, I'm sick of hearing it! Hooper will always score goals, interested or not but he's not been getting the service for long enough, stokes is just a pain in the Ar5e. Too many players just taking a ride, and time for Sammy to go if anybody will take him?
I wonder if any of the idiots blaming the ref will comment on your post GJ?

Bigbadjohn

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Well I think the reff was shocking today there iv said it! there is no was celtic can go out and win 5 nill every week and remember we hant played for at least 2 week. so what were saying here is its not ok for celtic to win 1-0 wich it should have been but its ok for the ref to award stupid red cards and give penelties what shouldn't have been? just because the ref got it wrong in the first penaily descision dosnt mean he can make up for it later on in the game and award 1 for nothing
and the sending off don't make me laugh for a pro ref to think that was a streight red was a joke so yes I blame the ref and if that makes me an person bigbadjohn then so be it

wee darren

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@Wee darren; Your missing the point mate. If we had won one -nil we would still have been poor. No one is expecting five-nil every game, just a performance level that matches the fans expectations. If we are poor the least we deserve is a sleeves up mentality. graft your way through the game, do you think we are getting that at the moment? Crowds are down because we are, at the moment, poor. green jhedi

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So be it. There's usually going to be a bad decision referee wise in a game, unfortunately it was a pen, which was a dive! But if our players can't show interest/desire/hunger/willing to win a game then that's what they deserve, a f@*kin ribbing, not the ref to be at fault! I get what your saying about no given right to win a game 5-0, I was brought up on that! But we never even looked close to a win! if we had dominated the game and made numerous chances or had goals chopped off for whatever reason but we had neither, so yes your an idiot and so are the others, the team was a joke

Bigbadjohn

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Yes gj I do agree we were poor and i'm not one for blaming the ref usually but I don't think it is right that the fans expect us to play like barca week in week out, i'm not saying that they all do but this is a young team and I think we should be greatfull we have the opportunity we have to try this system out that celtic have put in place, ie bringing in yong players and trying them out but what I don't like is when we don't play the greatest and the ref is clearly wrong we are scared to point the finger because everyone thinks we should be steem rolling teams every week

wee darren

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So 1-1 was a ribbing bbj and we deserve it, I don't think a draw was a ribbing and to say we have no given right to win 5-0 every game but u want celtic to at least have goals chopped off and have so many chance what gives us the right for that to happen? and u say i'm the person? I bet your one of those ones who shoult aboult how young we are in the cl but forget that when it comes to the spl give the boys a chance!

wee darren

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Darren when was the last time celtic played like barca, certainly not this season, which other than europe has been a major disappointment entertainment wise. I honestly can't remember coming out of celtic park drooling about the football this season. For me its been totally unacceptable the performances this season, there is no one in this side playing for the jersey, and again for me that's one of the problems, we need four or five celtic fans in our side that will have the will to win. jimbhoy

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@wee darren; I see your point. But ALL season we have been patchy at best. As for pointing the finger at refs, your right no fear if it's justified, but we won a couple we should not have today. he was poor both ways. Yes were a young team, but we will be losing two, maybe three, key players next season, so more game time should have been given to younger players. Sadly, we could not co this due to too many poor displays. green jhedi

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Has to start giving tony watt some game time, if overpaid pros are not interested or not showing up, why are they given chance after chance? Haven't watched it yet, as out training all day, but keep saying tony has to be given a chance, also Marcus Fraser, both haven't let us down, the pros have

Ska bhoy

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The problems we have are ones everybody knows, no commanding cb no playmaker and no targetman striker also jhedi some people just won't or can't see samaras is a passenger in most games (he plays well in europe don't you know)ska bhoy didn't fraser just do his cruciates?,,, deep river bhoy

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Wee Darren, I'm one of "they" guys that can see a performance or a million miles off it! I'm also one of they guys that thinks CL is also a million miles away and what we have is good enough to win SPL! No major singings because there's no need to win a dross league against dross teams "fighting" for results which we didn't today!
If we should have have scored 4/5 goals today but didn't due to the referees performance then fair enough, but we were crap, not one effort on goal, apart from
The goal which wasnt even a well made chance! I don't see how the ref can be to blame and not the team?

Bigbadjohn

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As for "The ribbing" it's aimed at the players as that's what they deserve, a Ribbing! Not the result as a points a point wether deserved or not?!

Bigbadjohn

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We have a team full of young bhoys and that's the way its going to be for years guys I don't want to be all doom and gloom but that's the way our club is working at the moment. if it was up to me I would have dropped about 5 of them games ago but are the bhoys coming in going to get cut any more slack? if celtic are not going to sign 3, 4, 5, million pound players we are not going to get the football we all expect but I have confidence this won't go on for ever but until then I stand by my team and try to see the brighter/greener side

wee darren

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And blame the refs! When the team isn't good enough?!

Bigbadjohn

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Gj your spot on we were shocking today and have been for the last few months Forster looks the shadow of the keeper he was! Ambrose is a liability! Wilson is terrible Izzy has never been the same player since his injury Sammy is lazy and only plays in the big games when he can be bothered Hooper looks like he is counting down the games till he can leave! Basically the team

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And blame the ref when the team isn't good enough? listen bbj get a grip yr acting like a wee stupid bhoy now blaming the ref was about 4 paragraphs ago move on, that was my point about you, u live in the past and spout crap when is suits u I said unless we sign 3, 4, 5, million pound players we won't get the football we expect so when did I say it was good enough? what I said was it won't be like that forever and until then I stand by my team, I don't no if its stupedness or daftness with you BIG john

wee darren

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Didn't see that about young Fraser, why ain't we plying gershon? Toshney? Give watt and atajic a run out, we need team effort, agree ith others on izzy and ambrose, times up on both of them,

Ska bhoy

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Wee Darren my gripe was about blaming the ref (again) by some supporters on here and probably a couple of thou that left the game blaming the ref also, I agree with all your points and the ref was shocking but can't be blamed for Celtic being shocking, if we had played well and lost then fair enough, but for a good part of the season and yesterday it was dire!
Like I said I agreed with most of what u said and also the other regulars on the site if I disagree I'll say so,
Like wise the other way round which keeps it interesting, there's no chance I live in the past, it does my nut in! As for the crap I "spout" I doubt I've even posted anything on here that doesn't make sense, agree or disagree is questionable? If the team deserve a ribbing for there performance then so be it, over the nxt few yrs the way our game is going there will be more youngsters in the team maybe even a team full? realistically they should get an easier time to bleed themselves in, as I coach an under 11s team in Livingston I would love to see it happen, but a team full of internationals to produce a very mediocre SPL campaign isn't on!
Agree to disagree wee Darren

Bigbadjohn

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Is it true Big bad John is 5 feet two and wee Darren is 6 feet four! Sopotcelt

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31 Mar 2013 15:12:43
big vic, he did kick mcgowan sending off no, st. mirren ''goal'' in 1st half yes maybe ok. sammy arm ball. maybe. not complaining about any of these. but we use video evidence for violent conduct. I hope we use it for cheating, goncalves dived pure and simple, and it was outside the box. he should get a red card for that. we should also use video to sack referees. in lennys words '' that was the worst refereeing iv'e seen for a long time ''. shammy

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Big bad john . ref was shocking but so have Hooper and Wanyama for several weeks. Hooper has been running around with a hump on his back like Scott Mc Donald since Christmas as for Wanyama his ego has out grown his ability. Both will gone and wouldn't have been in my team today. League has been win a few of the development team from now to end of season is what's needed, win loss or draw. GJ has hit it on the head again a leader on the park, a NL on the park?Some one who not only will get in the faces of the oppsition but will ensure all around him knows wtf its all about . TTS

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Agree TTS.

Bigbadjohn

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31 Mar 2013 10:13:12
Morning Ed007 I read a rumor this morning that David Cameron is pushing through an idea to get Celtic and Rangers into England with a vote on independence coming up he's thinks it would buy him loads of votes the idea would be that Celtic and Rangers would pay 15 million each to get into the championship this money would go to teams in the lower leagues! What would people think of this if it was to happen?

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Wouldn't give Cameron or Salmond my vote if they were the only 2 standing at a election, Tories in Scotland no chance, came through the 80's with Thatcher enough said, apologies 4 rant on a football forum! Anyway Happy Easter to every bhoy&ghirl.

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The Ranger's couldn't afford 1.5 million never mind 15 million. GhreenBhoy1888

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Complaints about Salmond sticking his nose into football matters back when oldco were dying and rightly so why change that now especially when thatchers evil spawn is involved. TTTS

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April fools is tomorrow. kbt1978

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31 Mar 2013 15:57:18
tories in scotland no chance. ?. last time I looked we have a tory gov running our country,. only 1 way to make sure it never happens again. and yes I know lib dems. same thing.

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All politicians are in it up to their necks. As Billy Connolly famously said anyone who wants to be a politicain should be precluded from office for that reason alone! Unfortunately we need them but Anyone going into politics should be at least 45 and have had a real life before standing for election! I am sorry straight out of Uni then researcher for an elected member then safe seat. Its piss poor!the millibands for example are a disgrace and they claim to be socialists! Maybe their parents or grandparents were genuine real people but those two selfish middle class fools are way off the mark if they think they speak for the common man. Milliband the elder has made a fortune from his right wing friends in business for example. Rant over but don't get me started. Sopotcelt

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I remember the Conolly line: he was paraphrasing Plato, in fact.

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A no vote in the referendum is a vote for Tories. Scotland never voted them in yet we suffer there awful policies. Football and politics shouldn't mix especially in this instance.

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According to Plato everything has a perfect original form. A chair or a table for example; his thinking obviously did not extend to politicians :) Sopotcelt

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31 Mar 2013 18:57:25
Why bring Disney Characters intae fitba' anyway, wis Plato no' Mickey Mouse's DUG?!

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Aye he's the clever disney dug. His mate the other dug Goofy was not so bright and looked a bit like Keith Jackson with constipation. Sopotcelt.

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Is that Pluto you are thinking about Sno Man?

MgC

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That's what I love about this forum you start a conversation about the government and finish it by talking aboot cartoon characters. quality

Chalky hoy

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Lets not forget Sevco the new disney character. He disnae dae fitba, he disney dae humility he disney dae paying your bills. Sopotcelt

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The only people that can bring Celtic or rangers to the epl is sky they own the league it's ther money who pay every thing from players mangers wages to the st johns ambulance that sits at the side incase, so when sky say jump every team in England will say how high it's as easy as that sky is king in this case and ther word will be final, jodrok

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