Celtic Rumours Archive May 28 2012

28 May 2012 18:48:32
Anyone else seen or heard the rumour going round Twitter that Celtic are in talks with the Dutch league regarding the possibility of playing there next season ? Can someone please put this to bed. {Ed007's Note - *groan*

Haha thats a stoater!
Conor67

Haha I kid you not ! https://twitter.com/#!/Agent_ITK {Ed007's Note - Do NOT listen to him, please.}

Well ED, i remember not too long ago Green Jhedi said that there were talks about us joining the english league(havent seen him around lately) because there were talks and he said he knew or it was from a decent resource. i would think PL would check his options because the spl seems to be getting worse with this whole mess and no actions or stolling {Ed007's Note - GJ is on holiday.}

60S 1 hit wonder napoleon bonaparte the 3rd. What was the song?

Dont listen to who ed? {Ed007's Note - Agent_ITK

It's Alba, Caledonia, Dalriada and Scotland forever! Ed. These posts are becoming tedious. We are going nowhere.
Liah Smit

ED007 all this Dutch rubbish, can we not put a "cap" on it? LOL Timalloy

Just wouldn't work!

We're a SCOTTISH team and shouldnt play anywhere else apart from Scotland no matter how crap the league is.

Iain

Some of the away games would be interesting but.

Congrats for the most stupidest comment I've ever seen on this site mate! Actually did lol there! What a numpty!

U need 2 years notice so you will have to wait 2 years at least

60S - They're Coming to Take Me Away - Haha. You can get it on YouTube

Been visiting some of those dodgy "tobacco outlets" along Canal St. have you?

Bhoys we got that wrong it is Rangers who want to join the Dutch league! I also hear they are making their first signing... Mr Van Bust! Sopot Celt

28 May 2012 17:28:13
If Celtic are to continue to be seen as an attractive prospect for up and coming players I would love to see them sell a few players to decent level teams at good prices. Izaguirre was linked with Man Utd and Kayal was also linked with the EPL. Both did next to nothing last season due to injuries. I would have no qualms about Hooper, Matthews, Wanyama and others moving on if we get decent money back. It would allow Celtic to approach players and agents and say 'look at those guys playing in the EPL - that was thanks to us' and they might be more inclined to take a chance on coming.

I can't be bothered with this nonsense that we are not a selling club. We are not a selling club, and this has been to our cost! We play in a backward league in a backward country! We need to be more creative if we are to improve. Selling McGeady single handidly paved the way for buying the talented squad we now have and Celtic will continue to improve if we show a bit of initiative in the transfer market.
NL and JP have proved they can spot talent and we should show a bit of trust in them.

I don't think selling our best players right now is going to improve or make us more creative . I thought NL was building a team ( a good one at that ) for an assault on the CL . By all means sell but sell fringe players and players who have not really taken their chances when played . But don't sell the future of the team ,(Wanyama, Matthews,Kayal etc)..........DH

You cant sell the core of the team! why would you want to sell all our players just to get new ones in and then sell them...dont you want a team to watch that is good and can play in CL. how can you keep f0llowing a team when they keep selling there top and ppls favorits after one season?
Lennon is on to somthing with this team and have great players just need some position players to help. we could sell one top guy for 7-9mill and have the funds for 1-3 transfer windows. why do you think we are bringing in and looking at young players in positions we already have so many, ie midfield, that is so we have young talent so if we do sell a top player a replacement is there ready so we have more money to spend on others. and with CL clubs all around would see them and pay the price we say.

I'm all for scouting young talent and selling them on for a profit but signing people for 1 year then punting them isn't the way to go, we don't need to start afresh every season. The whole point is to develop the players not give them 1 season and move them on. Take Petrov for example, signed young, stayed 7 years, won loaded trophies, became a legend then moved on at a very tidy profit. Why such a hurry to move players on?

Mikey Bhoy {Ed007's Note - I am hoping that in a few years we are only needing 1/2 signings a season to freshen things up a bit. We can't afford a mass exodus of first team regulars. For an example, if we sell Ki this window, even for £5 million and brought in Henriksen and Leitch-Smith we would still have around £1 - 1.5 million left over for a CB. That is three good players brought in and only one out the door. Obviously we need to trim the squad of fringe players just now, I am just talking longer term.}

Agree with you about trimming the fringe players, although would strongly advise dont sell McCourt, Paddy McCourt......what a chant that was lol although I fear it may be best for him to go somewhere he'l get more game time, if Lennys interested in Phillips why not use PM as a sweetner in any deal

Mikey Bhoy {Ed007's Note - I think NL would be happy if he could get a deal like that.}

Agree with the replies on this post. We have a good record of signing up and coming foreign and homegrown talent and selling them on for a good price but only when it suits us. Selling them on after a year is usually not too good and I would rather see us keeping them for as long as we could, helping us win trophies and progress in Europe and if the players are smart enough, then they will realise that this is good for their development and ultimately their career. You mentioned Matthews and Wanyama. These are probably the 2 players who I would keep at Celtic as long as possible as I think they can help Celtic progress but they are also young enough and talented enough that their value can only keep rising. A win win all round........Stef {Ed007's Note - Wanyama could give us another 6/7 years and he will just be reaching his prime. I have been really impressed with him so far, hopefully he can keep progressing the way he is. I think eventually he could end up at a top team in any league in the world.}

28 May 2012 15:26:27
It was on this day in 1888 that the Celts ran out for the club's first ever match. Our opponents at the first Celtic Park that day were Rangers and there was no sign of the Hoops, with Celtic playing in white shirts, with a green collar and a red and green Celtic cross as the badge. The Celtic team read: Dolan, Pearson, McLaughlin, Willie Maley, Kelly, Murray, McCallum, Tom Maley, Madden, Dunbar, Gorevin. The final score was Celtic 5 Rangers 2, with James Kelly and Neilly McCallum scoring and Tom Maley grabbing a hat-trick.

Jungle Bhoy.

Yes and my sons great great grandfather played scored and captained the team james kelly

Yes and in a nice gesture Rangers passed on their share from the tickets sold to Celtic to help them start up. It is a shame that the rivalry became so bitter and hateful for a minority on both sides. These two clubs have helped each other to become the great clubs they currently are ( ignoring the current problems and embarrassments coming out of Ibrox )

28 May 2012 02:30:33
Hi Ed

Anyone else think Hooper's interview last week seemed to suggest that he thinks he is just going to see out his 2 years then leave? I know words can be twisted by journo's but thats what i took from the quotes. If that is the case and no extenstion is signed soon I'd be looking to punt for the 7.5/8million that is being suggested southampton are willing to pay rather than let his contract run down and see him leave for less or even nothing

We should start selling these guys while they have value - move on and scout some more.
Its the only way forward, plenty top teams do this. have faith in the manager and scouts and lets generate cash flow.

Nah.... he is just making the right noises to get that rise his agent is looking for.....
Playing with words is what journo's do best.... he stated that he was happy at Celtic, but would love to play in England, love to play for England and then on to Barca.... in fairness, I would love to play for Celtic, love to represent Ireland and maybe become a champion boxer... but alas I doubt I will be leaving my job any time soon in pursuit of these dreams.... I am, just like hooper, happy with what I have for now! ;-)
But shhh dont tell ma boss!

There are five players I don't want to leave and Hooper ain't one. Good striker but I feel he would score more if he were braver.

Bearing in mind nl has said he wants a striker we can assume funds are there. If Hooper were to move that means more funds, not the full fee once, so maybe we can stretch a bit further for said striker. I know we would then require another striker,but with the scouting system I can't see us being stuck for targets. I think two in and some left over is achievable if we get the reported fee for Hooper.

The five I think need need need to stay are vic,Matthews,ledley,mulgrew and kayal. Then Hooper IMO of course

Jamie Mac(baking)

Jamie Mac.....i agree but i think you forgot about 2 of our best in Wanyama and Izzy who would/could break a the 10mill when it comes to sell them(hope they stay for 7 or so years), so if it is only 5 i would say bye to Mulgrew and Kayal. however i would like to keep all 7 because that would/are be a nice core of players to build around and to keep for a long time. that being said how good/talent of players we have in our team, we just need to find other key/expirence players in positions and we could have a good run in CL, really like the look of our club and where it is headed.

Sell hooper and get the 7-8 mil now. 6 mil profit in two seasons, for an spl club, is an outstanding business opportunity. Good lad, good player, is never going to stay forever and goes down as a celt for life, but now's the time to get that kind of money in.

What if he go's out and scores a few in the champs league? He will be worth a fortune then, he played well against udinese last season and they were top of serie a at that point, have to remember he's only 23/24, young like the whole squad!

28 May 2012 00:05:46
No worries Ed, I haven't seen your comments on him but from what I've seen he would be great for you, loads of talent, and I know that Crewe rate him extremely highly, after Powell, him and Clayton are their big hopes and they are great judges of footballers, hence why I was on their books at one point ;-) Whilst its not what your fans want he could also get sold for a massive profit in the future also.
JFT96
Smithy {Ed007's Note - Powell is a fantastic prospect, it was him Ed001 and me were talking about a while back when Leitch-Smith came up in the conversation, he told me that NL was interested. That's the way the club needs to operate sadly Smithy, getting young players in to make a name and then sell at a profit. Have you seen much of Wanyama that plays for us? He will end up at the very top of the game IMO, an absolute machine of a DM/CB, he has been compared to Essien and is still only 20, over 6ft tall and built like the proverbial brick sh1thouse. Keep an eye on him.}

Hey ed...i know i talked to you about this to some extent but speaking of Wanyama, i know how you and others think that there will be no 10mill for an spl player but surely after spending some time with us and playing in CL, epl and others would come, and we should stand tall at whatever price tag we put on him cause right now and further on we should say at least 15mill with a sell on clause. my question to you is 1) do you think other clubs outside of epl(spain,italy ect) would pay more(upove 10mill) for a spl player or do they have the same arrogence as epl? and 2) would you think if an offer comes in (say 8mill or even the max 9.5 like mcgready) do you think Celtic would let him go right away or try and get alot more years out of him? because it does seem like he likes it(being his first year and knowing the history and our help with africa and all the charities we help out) here.
if i was on the board i would say no deal and slap a franchise price tag 25mill on him(like Lennon joked with hooper) no matter what, cause i would want him as long as possible and then cash in on him because right now or even in 1-3 years i would make sure to do everything to keep him. we have a few real talent that they just seem to good for the spl yet others wont take notice, i know we need money as is our buisness plan but with players like wanyama,izzy,hooper,kayal(still out if he is on the same level as the other 3) we should stand tall and say these guys are important and slap a franchise price tag on them. {Ed007's Note - I do think that European teams would be more likely to pay over £10 million for an SPL player. As I have said I would love CFC to do what you say, slap a high end fee on players and tell clubs it's a take it or leave it. Sadly players and their agents hold all the aces now. When you look at the players the club brought in using the McGeady money, then one 'big' sale will cover 1-3 transfer windows. The majority of fans nowadays are more interested in how much a player costs than how good he is, Mulgrew, Matthews, Ledley, Wanyama, Hooper etc have all been fantastic pieces of business yet their accumulated transfer fees are just over £3 million. How much do you think the club could bring in just from the sale of those five, not to mention the likes of Kayal, Izaguirre and Brown. I am quite content with the way the club is doing it's business, but I agree that our players are seen as a cheap option to the EPL.}

If we had to sell a player to found 1-3 transfer windows then thats good because of the football market we are in, i just hope we dont sell the ones that have real and potential expert talent,ie Wanyama and others that should be the core of the club and build around. i hope Celtic now would stand thier ground and as i said and you say pay this or forget about it because i think now is the time since we have a good balanced book and players we have...hope we find more players like we have the past 1-2 years because i think they are some of the best to come in without paying millions. Ed do you have any know about any players we are scouting that could be a Izzy, Kayal, Wanyama?
Canuck Bhoy {Ed007's Note - I don't know any 'unkown' players that are being watched, they just seem to appear. Henriksen would be a great signing, even at £2.5-3 million.}