28 Feb 2013 22:04:20
Right looking for the usual posters here: GJ/mrs E/tim and all season ticket holders:
Forget today news but what's everyone's thoughts on next's seasons season tickets? Hearing from a lot of people friends & people around us at CP they are thinking of giving it up for one of many reasons. Money front/quality of the games/the ticket office for away games/focus/the police in general etc etc
It seems I'm hearing more about people giving them up rather than keeping them just trying to put the feelers out as IMO 42,000 season ticket holders for next season will fall well short for next season
Looking for a general debate & keeping it celtic
Lenny
It's got to be a worry Lenny. The product is pretty poor, the recession is still with us and today's fiasco won't have helped. Why get yourself into debt when you can walk up and pick your games? If we are brutally honest, CL apart, this team have under achieved so far.
All fans want cup finals and silverware, that does not make you a glory hunter, and if we had won the treble last season I don't know if the season ticket uptake would have been affected too much. But if we had done it this year I am certain we would have had at least the 42,000 again next year. If you have faith in the team ST's are your best way to tickets for the big games.
I would be amazed if there is not an incentive next year to encourage ST sales. TV does not help, early kick off's are dreadful, and PC streaming is having an effect as well. We are pretty well positioned with wages, I expect Hooper, wanyama and forster to go freeing up big wages and the replacements will have to earn that salary level. This has been our goal all along. Three of us have been going to games since our teens, ST and share holders since Fergus, but one just cannot justify his next year. The two of us will pitch in to keep his ST, but how many guys are in this situation?
Celtic need to monitor this as there is great PR to be had. Time to look after us Bhoys, we have stepped up to the plate for years. let's have a workable price structure. And bring back the half season books as well. green jhedi
Lenny I will defintely be renewing and so no reason why not.
Its ridiculous that the above reasons should be used.
If I can't afford it or there's some family reason, I would reconsider but that's it.
I don't know why there's been this reaction today, I really don't. RFC have committed a crime and been given a punishment (debatable about the leniency), there's no victory for anyone. Rangers fans are celebrating keeping titles that they can't add to and cost them their beloved Club. They have nothing else to celebrate and they have shown no class, dignity or one shred of humility for the shame they have brought to the game.
Rangers or whatever name they go by are in Division 3, are an absolute shambles and will be for the forseeable.
I see no reason why this should affect me renewing my season ticket for Celtic ~ Mrs E
I would like to add not all Rangers fans are celebrating and see no victory in their current plight. They just want to be back in the top tier fighting for European football. defiance doesn't bring that tomorrow morning for the loudmouths & their shallow victory
Price is the issue in my opinion. Football is too expensive full stop. The average take home pay just doesn't allow for a £40 to £50 minimum spend every 2nd week for 90 mins of football. Players just shouldn't be taking home a weekly salary equivalent to many folks yearly salary.
I won't be renewing my season ticket next season. I have had my ticket since 1987 and have had the privilage of watching some fantastic players and some very good teams during this period. Needless to say, I also watched some very poor Celtic teams, but that's part and parcel of supporting your team! I was initially delighted by Rangers plight last summer, but now feel that I just can't keep going week after week to watch a one horse race! As much as I hate to admit it, Rangers always kept us on our toes, so we couldn't afford silly dropped points. But now all we have is Hearts, who will struggle financially for years to come, a poor Aberdeen, a Dundee Utd Chairman who sells all his best players, therefore stopping them being contenders and Hibs, who blow hot and cold, but mostly cold! So do I buy a ST to watch this one horse race, in the hope that maybe Inverness or Ross County turn up and give us a good game? The answer is no, I am actively looking into buying a season ticket for Newcastle, which is 2hrs 15min away on the train and promises very good games most weeks! Davo 88
So Davo after supporting the Hoops for almost 30 years and as a ST holder no less, you because Rangers FC went bust are now going to become a Newcastle fan drive for over two hours every couple of weeks and spend a fortune on tickets etc. Have I got this right. Your reason to see good games most weeks! Now I am not going to discuss the merits or otherwise of English football or swapping the beautiful Hooped Shirt for a Juve copy but I am astonished at your post and I suspect many others will be too. Sopotcelt.
To give up your celtic season ticket and buy a newcastle one is a shambles and a disgrace. you would rather line Mike Ashleys pocket than peter lawells? Ud rather watch the dross that pardew puts on the field? The only boy ad have from newcastle is papa cisse, and maybe santon. no TRUE celt would give up their season ticket to fund another team. that's not supporting the team and if that is the case WE DON'T WANT you to RENEW, goodbye!
GJ I'm on the same boat £550 for what's being played on the park is a bit much
Mrs E the post is not aimed at yesterday's out come personally couldn't care what happened to them the banter & ripping it out of the dragged on long enough from there shambles last year.
My problem is away tickets: st mirren can't get tickets ICT can't get tickets even Dundee over the Xmas holidays couldn't get tickets for it lol. Really I remember the days not do long ago people were saying aye the season ticket is good for the old firm games that's about it. We miss rangers as do most fans miss the old firm but IMO the old firm is finished that rangers team as it is just now would get ripped by our fringe players would be like watching a Dundee derby or Edinburgh derby
I think Celtic as a whole need to make it appealing for the fans but lawwells perfect excuse would be well we need to pay our top earners so for that we need high season ticket prices. even just now bums in seats last week for Dundee was shocking, it's not a club any more it's all just business.
It's properly my own fault but started watching & reading up on German football the fans have the power over there really got the German FA by the short & curlies. What do we get a police unit who burst down your door for blessing your self or getting arrested for 'insisting a riot' with a zombie banner
Green is a tool but cheap (er) season tickets could be a key for next year when the GB boycotted Celtic park it was like playing 11s in the local park lol
Lenny
01 Mar 2013 09:28:44
i can't believe the criticsism some guys are getting for not renewing.
So what if someone wants to watch a consistently better level of football by going to games in England, its there money and its up to Celtic and Scottish football to get us to part with it.
The product at Celtic park is dire and will only get worse, the crowds are getting smaller and quieter, players look as though they are not interested and I personally don't see the piont in buying a season ticket to watch a pre determined outcome.
Celtic WILL win the league for at least the next 5 seasons, by then Rangers may be back and in a position to challenge, not because they will have gotten to the level we are at now but because we will have fallen closer to the Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeens etc.
The game in Scotland for a big club is fkd, its over, we will never, ever again be as good as we are today and today we are pretty poor.
So Debauchy Ben Arfa Gouffran Tiote Cabaye are worse than what u have there at Celtic park think not lol
Davo88 your a disgrace! Paradise doesn't need you,. ,. kbarry
01 Mar 2013 10:12:32
@Lenny, I agree with Mrs E about renewing my season tickets (mine and the girls)
I posted yesterday that if decent fans of all clubs do not buy season tickets, then the cheats (Rangers) have won.
But I agree that Celtic should look at their pricing structure. With the euro money this season they can afford it. Also if as expected, Wanyama, Hooper and maybe others leave the fans will want something in return.
Celtic for season tickets could reduce them all by £50 but maybe get another 5000 fans buying them.
Also the pay at the gate fan, give a kid a ticket for a fiver. Why not even give away 1000 tickets for every home game to the schools in Glasgow, or the unemployed. Celtic must show some iniative. Timalloy
Bayern, Man U and Barca way ahead in their respective leagues. CL football same last 8 more or less or clubs from same countries in last 8 every year. So what's your point.
I'm a "fair weather" fan of another SPL team. This season after shouting my mouth of all summer about T'Rangers I felt oblliged to get a season ticket. I don't regreat it one bit.
With no Rangers the SPL has been so much better. The atmosphere is better, the football is better, the competition for 2nd place/ top six is better.
Yes you will win the league at a cantor, but almost every SPL team have shown that if you are not at your best they can take points from you.
Is that not what you want? Competition?
As a neutral (and football purist) I'd much rather watch Celtic V Dundee United then a scrappy mean OF game. Hell I'd rather watch St Mirren Dundee that watch most Rangers games.
Have you never considered that not having OF games every few months means that Celtic can focus more on the CL than they would be able to with the OF in place.
Far too expensive and far too many boring matches, with expectations of an easy win. The fans aren't up for it, how many matches at Celtic Park have we heard the players shouting this season as most of the stadium sits in silence and as a result the players aren't up for it.
Lenny, I would differ with you and know you want to speak about all things Celtic but this talk of not renewing Celtic tickets only surfaced yesterday after the guilty verdict.
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Bayern, Man U and Barca way ahead in their respective leagues. CL football same last 8 more or less or clubs from same countries in last 8 every year. So what's your point.
Point is the product on the pitch. bayern Munich vs borussia Dortmund Wednesday night on espn and Motherwell vs Celtic on tv 1, was night and day. Madrid vs barca Tuesday night? Just for a few examples.
Portugal - FC Porto and benfica both level on points
England - Manchester United 12 points clear with man city winning it last year
Spain - ok that league is a right off with Barcelona
Germany - bayern 15 points clear but last years winners Dortmund
Right examples above except Spain it's about product on the pitch. good games goals etc. st mirren ICT Dundee utd all played 11 men behind the ball the second the ball crossed the half way line it's backs to the wall more or less any time Celtic play at home. a lot of people bought season tickets for the old firm games it was a your way of getting a ticket for it.
I know we can't get the atmosphere at every game but the European nights are great but then 3/4 days later its just the odd moan and groan about the refs and if the GB weren't there you could properly here the managers shouting at the players.
Scottish football as a whole had been going down hill for years last year with newco was a big loss too. As it stand the spl don't have a sponser hearts are about to go down the tubs killie are rumoured to have 9/11m debt along with the rest Dunfermline are going on strike about wages but still nothing changes?
Ps might have male PMT hence the long posts lol
Lenny
I would love to keep going but I work varying shifts during the week and pretty much every weekend. I make one in every 4 or 5 games so just can't keep it up. Not cost effective for a recently married guy who is looking to buy a bigger house and start a family. Will still get a ticket for any games, home or away, I can get to though.
Hail Hail!
Gordybhoy
Any reaction to the rangers verdict should not impact upon our club, we can stand tall and proud. Why should then bring let away with cheating hinder US?
If people are not renewing because of prices then that's fair enough- if it's simply as a reaction to LNS findings then the wrong club is being punished.
On the price versus product argument, well Lennon hinted the other day he might have to make some signings to entice fans back. This is absolutely imperative IMO, we haven't served up enough good performances at all. It's upto Lennon to get the fans excited and the bums on the seats- if he can't improve us and bring fans back then he shouldn't have the job. It's that simple- if we don't improve then its time for us and him to move on.
How many times this season have we heard him say" not good enough" or "I'm angry with the display"
For my money the domestic season has been very poor, what happens if its a poor performance tomorrow and we go out?
Successful season? We will see.
Jamie mac
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Lenny, I would differ with you and know you want to speak about all things Celtic but this talk of not renewing Celtic tickets only surfaced yesterday after the guilty verdict.
Ok timing not great but just annoyed with Wednesday night game and then the ticket office with away tickets for st mired
LNS has nothing to do with me or celtic, I'm more or less interested in finding out if celtic can keep the fans happy with a good price for season tickets as our cup run and more so at Hampden. Too many players just turning up when they want now more so cause Europe is just about finished
Lenny
I think we need a player or two that can change a game and get bums on seats and if wanyama, hooper or efe goes then the board would have to front up with some money to replace these players with the same or better quality than we already have. i'm not asking for millions and millions of pounds to be spent but this season we were pushing for champions league football and we brought in efe ambrose at 1.2 mil miku loan season gk loan in jan we brought in gershon loan ( but should buy as is a class act when fully fit) rogic 400,000 oh and lassad for hee haw that's 1.7 million plus loan wages that has to improve!
chalky bhoy!
I'm not taking 1 next season, going to be a dad in August, more important things in life for me at the moment!
Steve
So much for the best fans in the world. I for one will be renewing my ticket next year and the next! Can't believe any true Celtic fan would swap the tic for Newcastle. Also you don't need to pay £550 for a season ticket as there are plenty cheaper. I only pay £365 for mine.
I had to unfortunately give my season ticket up a couple of years ago because of kids and work, but i'm hoping to take my oldest next season.
Maybe I shouldn't be commenting on others since I'm no longer a ST holder, but let's be honest there has always been a lot of meaningless games especially towards the end of season, the same with all the top leagues. So I guess my point is if you can afford to, and availabe for saturdays, why not renew. We have all gave our piece about the zombies recently, why now start saying you miss the games? jj
So much for faithful through and through, do feel it for those who are finding money tight and Celtic should maybe look into this, as for the other's especially the guy that want's to go to Newcastle, your not needed, I think you will get your eye's opened at St James's park I certainly did when I went down for Beardslay's testamonial, thought I was in the Rangers end
Tambhoy {Ed007's Note - That was not a very pleasant trip Tam. I remember it well.}
Cant believe the vindictive comments I am reading, purely because I am my own man and want to swap boring games at Celtic Park for Newcastle games. This is one of the reasons I am not renewing. If you dare to say anything against Neil Lennon at Celtic Park, you fear for your safety from other supporters nearby! Can I just say guys, football is about opinion, there is no need to get nasty about it! Davo 88
Is it just me but read a few of davo s post and I m suspicious, hasn't said one thing positive about us, Not One just a thought
I think what davo means is he is still a celtic supporter but fancies trying something else. The whole mike Ashley thing. aye he's got his hand in the rangers mix but he has his hand in the shop USC & a few others too. I know a few celtic/the rangers fans who just gave up with their season tickets & once a month just pick any game down south and watch that.
I pay £550 cause its a good seat with a good view next to the GB (for atmosphere) & under cover when it rains. each to there own though just looked for a good debate and we got one
Lenny