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28 Apr 2012 22:53:41
Im positive Alan Hansen just said "ya hoor" on MOTD when talking about Newcastles next fixtures. If any of you can rewind it have a look. I done it a few times and im convinced.
Joeshmo1888
Alan Hansen...Ya hoor?
28 Apr 2012 22:38:23
If you read this site regularly like I do the general feeling is that Rangers will be liquadated. Can anybody truly back these claims up I have the feeling the dark side will get out of this somehow they always seem to find a way no matter what they are guilty of.
Quite simple, even if the administrators accept a bid from either the Blue Knights/Kennedy Syndicate or Bill Miller, this does not mean that a sale will take place.
Firstly, Craig Whyte has to agree to sell his 85% shareholding in the club, no matter who the administators accept a bid from. No acceptance from Whyte, no sale. Whyte will want several million and I can't see anyone agreeing to this.
Secondly, Whyte holds a Ł18m floating charge over Rangers assets, due the the transfer of this charge from Lloyds when he paid of the Ł18m debt. Although this is challenged by the administrators, no action has been taken in this respect and even if it was and the administraots were successful, it would take months of legal action, time Rangers don't have. Who would take over a business where another party has an Ł18m floating charge over the assets. You'd have to be mad.
Thirdly, the result of the Big Tax case hasn't been announced. HMRC WILL win this and refuse to enter a CVA. This means liquidation.
Fourthly, no CVA has currently been agreed.
Fifth - the administrators have stated there is only enough cash to keep Rangers running until the end of the season, some 3 weeks away. After that they will be trading insolvently and the administrators have to file for liquidation. The current bidders cannot possibly conclude a deal by then.
Sixth - Ticketus. They will play a major part in all of this and I expect a twist here. Don't know what, but expect a twist. Perhaps Ticketus gaining Whyte's shareholding or/and floating charge and therefore the situation above still applies.
Seventh - the two bidders WANT liquidation, despite what they are saying. Why do you think they keep stalling. It is a far better busines prospect.
Eighth - The 2 contacts that will be proven by the result of the Big Tax Case. Rangers will be stripped of all trophies during the period that EBTs were used. UEFA will want to crucify them and the penalties will be horendous. No one will want to take such a wounded dog forward and will want to form a Newco.
Any one of thse problems is difficult to overcome, all eight, no chance. LIQUIDATION is a certainty.
Expect it to be announced on or shortly after 14th May.
K.
Just read statement from Duff and Duffer, they expect Miller to get assurances from SPL soon regarding no further punishment. Surely there is some breach of legality to this if he indeed has been given these assurances, given result of HMRC has not been made as yet
Ye it's something to do with funny handshakes but europe is watching this time.
28 Apr 2012 21:45:16
For those of you who don't keep up with Chanel 4's excellent correspondent Alex Thomson, here's an excerpt from his last blog.......
"......As an act of such irresponsibility in the current climate beggars belief. Like so many in this drama Mr McCoist goes “public” in an environment where I doubt he’ll never be properly questioned.
Far from letting due process happen and preparing the case for appeal, Mr McCoist chooses a lynch mob approach potentially putting the safety of these people at risk.
It’s an action redolent of the lack of reality, prudence, judgement and moral decency which has characterised so much of a club that’s brought the game into deep disrepute. Moreover, some might observe that Mr McCoist’s inflammatory tantrum is in itself likely to bring the club and himself into disrepute.
Will Mr McCoist be equally “public” in facing up to the responsibility of what he’s done? Given the cowardice of his initial act, you have to say it’s doubtful.
Mr McCoist and Rangers need another reminder that even Glasgow football is now living in the 21st century. Rules get applied – even to Rangers. Outside Glasgow football where else would anyone in normal public life question the independence of the panel as he did – then call for them to he named for the mob? Yet the sheer and obvious outrage his actions should provoke raises little adverse comment in the city. No – so much attention remains focused on the astounding fact that a club that broke rules got punished. Doh!
Small wonder it leaves SFA chief executive saying the rules will be applied without fear or favour. But why should he have to? In any normal world this is a given and accepted. In Glasgow football the man imposing the rules has to say he’ll do his job as if it’s news.
Meanwhile, if I get time in the small matter of a war crimes court, I shall ask the SFA if they intend charging Ally McCoist with bringing the game into dispute for questioning the SFA’s motives, independence and arguably, putting the safety of its independent panel at risk......"
AC75
Oops, Channel 4!
AC75
Has Thomson been on his blog about the police laughing at his evidence of a Scottish journalist threatening him?
This man has no credibility after his crap about that.
I hope he writes a blog comparin mccoists single out burst to the charges, shame conspiracy abd 14match accumulative ban issued to the wee ginger rat from parkhead
I tend to believe Thomo ahead of the tabloid clowns we have up here
AC75
28 Apr 2012 21:14:23
Can anyone enlighten me into just what was acheived with todays protest? from what i can find.... nothing. But willing to be corrected!
Evinguu {Ed007's Note - If you imagine a kid storming off in a huff because they can't get their own way, it was like that, bit on a bigger scale.}
Firstly let me say I am Celtic through and through. I agree that the protest probably achieved nothing but at least as a support they finally got of their backsides and had thier voice heard. I think we at least have to give them that. (ps they are still a pack of shuffling zombies!). Pedro
Haha Ed that was the sort of image i had in my head already! If we had thought about it we shudve done a counter march with half of us in prams throwing our toys out them.
Pedro. It is indeed about time. However they really are protesting for the wrong reasons. They dont (not all by the way) seem to grasp what the sanctions were for and who is to blaim for whats going on at the club. Thats what makes it even funnier in my book.
Evinguu {Ed007's Note - Rangers fans are well within their rights to protest about what has/is happening to their club. It was very poorly organised and too little too late. The fans should have been mobilised and asking questions years ago, even the last year could have made all the difference. Sadly too many decided not to believe anything, or it was a Timmy conspiracy, 'it can't happen to us' and turned a blind eye. I keep saying it about John Greig, I look on him as Rangers version of Billy McNeill, they even have a statue of The Greatest Ever Ranger at the stadium. If Billy McNeill came out and said something wasn't right behind the scenes at the club I can guarantee that I would be listening and paying close attention. Yet when Grieg done it against Whyte's takeover, he was ignored and discredited and even slagged in some quarters. See, I enjoy the odd rant as well Evinguu. Mostly on a Saturday night when Moneypenny is watching Britain's Got F**kall talent on catch up :-)
Evening, Evinguu is it just me or are your posts getting shorter? Are you trying to get in wee Pat's good books as he said "you were under probushun"
Anyway back to the march, I heard they were scouting ahead for next season in division 3 but nobody told them Queens Park were away.. LOL Timalloy
You are absolutley spot on there ed with your rant ( and diont blaim you with that rubbish being on!) The time for questions and protests had long passed. This gave them an excuse to in effect try and pass the buck onto someone else for their woes.
Totally agree with the Greig and mcneill contrast. Christ even wattie gave them hints before he left by saying its only going to get worse! Warnings awere never heeded by the masses, questions were never asked as you apparently as a Rangers fan ask questions of your club cos if you do then you are a timmy etc.
Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I do find it strange that WS has suddenly reappeared? Why did he keep quiet so long but now decide to give his opinion.}
Evening timalloy. I did see wee pats comment and was rather upset lol i always thought it was wee pat who spent his time on probation?
Posts aint getting shorter, I can make points in short easy to digest posts. Just dont get too used to it....... im feeling a blog like thingy coming on! lol
Ed, it certainly is odd, they are wheeling out the big guns now! Jardine and Walter. The incredible duo, the saviours of Rangers from the SFA oppressors.
I think he is now in a position to give his opinion, was biding his time till he was safe from receiving any flak for whats gone on before and is now able to jump on its the SFA and Whytes fault bandwagon. Will also allow the supporters trusts etc to say these sanctions are now affecting pensions!
Evinguu {Ed007's Note - I think WS knows a lot more than he is letting on about what the true picture behind the scenes were.}
No doubt he does ED. But he is keeping it Dignified you see. As soon as there is the hint of an opppertunity to deflect the blaim away from the club whilst under his stewardship so to speak onto other things, then he is in like a shot. I wouldnt expect a manager to be kept right up to date on everything going on esp its not their job really, but you would expect them to have an idea., even would beleive ally if he said he didnt know tax wasnt being paid. Im sure us all if working for what we beleive to be a reputable company (and that term is being used very loosley now in regards to Rangers) we wouldnt really question them about wether our tax was paid or not we would assume it was, like it normallly is unless your self employed. Thinking of tax i was a jammy sod and got a rather nifty rebate today in the 000's :) one happy Bhoy today! sorry gotta share that soo happy! so see rangers i dont just pay my tax i pay far too much lol maybe i should put in a bid for them HMRC seem to like me lol
Anyways he knows a lot more, He will have known about Second contracts if they existed. He would have known about other methods of payments being made to players as it would have come up in contract negotiations and through the cheif exec. And also certainly would have known about the ins and outs of the takeover. Isnt it funny how he finally announced his retirement just before things started to get signed up when whyte was about to take over. Well at least internally they would have known it was a done deal. There is a lot in the timing of the deal too, was signed off the day the tax tribunal was to finish originally, but that is prob a post for RTC.
I also feel Gordon Smith has a lot more info hes not letting on. What self respecting man would go to a club he loved and do nothing for 6 months, even if others were preventing you from doing your job, why not blow the whistle? Maybe cos he thought that the SFA would let them of with what he was seeing go on? Much like whyte said about his dinner date with Doncaster and Regan (if true cannnot really beleive a word that man says)
Theres something else thats bugging me. It is the difference they are trying to make between the club and the business. They are one and the same thing surley? If the business acts inappropriatley so does the club and vice versa. The fans are merley customers and have little input into how the club operates or acts other than providing it most of its capital. They can damage the club by association e.g sectarian crap and off field trouble so can make the club guilty by association. But in terms of breaching the rules the business the club and therefor the fans get punished. Its the way it is and always has been and the way it should be. If the shoe were on the other foot i would be releived at these sanctions! and be looking to question those in charge of the club and thier roles and expect that they do more than is being done to rectify the numerous problems. This is what really confuses me, that so many so called Rangers men cannot see this!!
Ok now im ranting away Ed, and i dont have the excuse of crap TV (not with the Mrs this weekend lol) so god nows what my excuse is lol
Evinguu
Hopefully the SFA will double the transfer embargo to 2 years when they make their appeal
Kinda like the Celtic fans when they marched to the Bank of Scotland you mean ED. {Ed007's Note - Except that helped and wasn't pointless. There is a difference. Oh and the BOS was open, it always helps if the place you are marching is open for anyone to see or hear you. A couple of thousand slithering down towards an empty and closed Hampden served exactly what purpose?? Why do Rangers fans seem intent on causing trouble with the SFA for following rules Rangers voted on? Their vendetta against the SFA is stinking of a lack of class and dignity, I am sure as a Rangers fan you agree, or is it only when CFC do it that counts?}
No matter what you say ED, just like the Rangers fans throwing the toys out the pram so did the Celtic fans. Standing outside a bank throwing the toys about DIGNITY indeed. {Ed007's Note - My point was that the CFC protest had a point and was part of other actions against the bank, closure of accounts etc. Please then can you explain the point Rangers fans were trying prove and what point did it actually prove, standing like lemmings outside an empty building? I wonder what genius came up with that plan, it will hardly go down as a Tiananmen Square moment for the club will it? Hardly anyone could even be arsed turning up yesterday to that poorly organised shambles. I was e-mailed at 1.15 in the morning by FollowFollw, and of course I am a subscriber and poster on there :-), to ask if I would marshal it (there is a copy on the site), how well organised was that? They didn't even have the marshalling sorted the night before it. A rag tag and bobtail protest, organised by an idiot who I wouldn't leave in charge of a dead goldfish, the goldfish would outsmart him.}
Ed, you have just described neil lennon everytime yous get beat? {Ed007's Note - Are you incapable of reading English? Where is Mr Lennon mentioned in that thread? Please at least try to let the words sink in before randomly bashing at your keyboard. Do they still actually still teach reading and comprehension in schools today? People seem to just imagine what things say rather than what they actually do, it is very strange. My 11 year old niece can do it, but grown men seem to have a problem with reading what is actually written and understanding it, hence allowing them to reply in a sensible and constructive manner, it is the basic principle of intelligent discussion. You should try it sometime when you are a big boy.}
You speak of a lack of class and dignity is this the same celtic who last season waged a campaign against the scottish referees, talk about pot kettle black! {Ed007's Note - Is that the campaign that forced a referee to quit after having to admit to lying? Hardly the same as protesting against rules that you actually voted for in the first place. It is a totally different situation. But let's not let facts get in the way of you feeling sorry for yourself. And you forgot about the 'campaign' that proved either the linesman or referee lied about the incident in the tunnel at Ibrox. Can you see the pattern that when CFC 'wage campaigns' they usually win and refereeing authorities are found to be at fault, funny that isn't it? It's hard to cover up hard facts and evidence, and the SFA seem to be finding that out when two officials who witnessed the same incident can have two different versions of events. Rangers protest was against rules they were instrumental in coming up with, why didn't they speak out at the time?}
ED 8,000 was a good turn out for the march, and they could have held it on Monday but all us bears work on the monday. According to all the media I have read it was well organised. Can you tell me why celtic fans felt the need to blame the bank ?. {Ed007's Note - The bank was ready to foreclose on the club the fans blamed the bank and the board. Rangers are blaming everyone but themselves.So you read about how well organised it was in the press? What about what you seen at it? I do take it as a Rangers supporter you were there? If you were you will know there wasn't 8000 there.}
28 Apr 2012 20:56:19
Well lads, let have a great day 2moro, every1 keep safe and let's conga show the unwashed how to do things properly! GBNL
I fully agree with your sentiment about everyone staying safe but your comment about the unwashed is somewhat misguided.....unless you were standing in front of a mirror at the time............anyway here's hoping it's a good game and that both sets of fans stay safe..................
Lets hope that the referee is stron enough not to give into celtics demands and has a good game without being chased about the pitch
And let's hope rangers gave afford to play a first 11. And let's hope that Walter smith has taking his hand out of his puppet, And let's hope us lot don't cause to much damage and not have any money to pay for it!
28 Apr 2012 20:29:37
Well done to Southampton today, not really bothered about them but I seen that "Celtic are due a £500,000 transfer bonus after Jos Hooiveld helped Southampton clinch promotion back to the Premiership."
(video celts) page
Do you think they will come in with a big bid for hooper. I would like him to stay but money could be used to buy 2 player help get into CL group stages.
DB77
I think hooper may well go there and will provide a good profit to buy other players. it's been win-win . gary gets to play in the epl and celtic have done well with him. if he stays celts continue to have the services of a good player.
hey! it's called running your football club well.
Hosveid is only loan southampton ya tube no 500,000 {Ed007's Note - Jos Hooiveld signed permanently for Southampton on December 1st last year.}
I hope it can but two players to help us get to the CL proper ? Wishful thinking but I am wishing with you. These are huge sums of money, think about it 7 million pounds and we discuss such things with ease. I am a cautious fellow these days I would like to see us bank some money and use the interest to pay some wages. We could consider diversification nothing too bold but what about a handball volleyball hockey or basketball team or even a cycling team. There is so much we can do to give the Celtic brand coverage and I am a little frustrated that CFC dont appear to have costed this sort of venture. To get back to football a few of my mates have said sell most of the first team save 3 or 4 and integrate the youth team where they can develop to the next stage. The thinking is that in 2 or 3 years the youth players are worth a fortune and we have money in the bank and a successful team. I must say I am not sure but I would give up a short term CL glory run in order to secure the clubs position financially and of course to give these young Bhoys a better chance. I really hate to see our youngsters failing to reach their potential save for a few first team outings at the right moment. Anyway rambling again, my excuse is I am sure I am older than most on here and as such prone to such things...... Sopot Celt
28 Apr 2012 19:59:28
there was an interesting piece in the scotsman about the 50th anniversary of dundee winning the league and reaching the semi-final of the european cup the following year. (both dundee clubs have gone that far, not bad at all). particular praise was given to gordon smith who also won league medals with hibs and hearts. making him the only man to do that. interestingly none were with the old firm. a quick scan through the list of league winners since the war shows that every time one or other of the old firm slips out of contention their place is quickly filled by other clubs who seize the opportunity. such is life. during that barren period for celtic from 1946 to 1966 (1 title won) the league was won 8 times by clubs other than old firm.
from 1966 to 1986 rangers went through a poor period winning 3 titles, the league was won 4 times by other clubs and they ran very close on other occasions. i think it can be seen pretty clearly that when the opportunity presents itself the 'smaller' clubs will compete to win things and subsequently do well in europe. when mr. murray started pumping in money like he did, we know where that led, only celtic could compete. only after a massive reorganisation. so now rangers are pretty much down and out history shows that we can look forward to other clubs grasping the nettle. all this talk of scottish football dying is the usual ibrox crystal ball mentality. the remaining clubs will re-align and scottish football will be all the better for it. since 1986 it has been looked upon elsewhere as a joke with only 2 clubs competing. who will celtic have to compete with next year ?
Difference is money talks these days {Ed007's Note - But it dont sing and dance and it don't walk.............}
Back in those days scottish football had equal money compared to todays game. Most clubs dont have 2quid to rub together these days lol
Ed007. Bored tonight are we? Always thought you were a diamond geezer, lol!
Brian
p.s. Saw him at the SECC a few years back. Awesome, despite looking in his mid hundreds, lol. {Ed007's Note - Sure am Brian, I get my music taste from my dad. I love the 60s 70s stuff, but Pink Floyd are my passion lol. Although I do really like Oasis and a few other 'recent' bands, Madchester stuff etc.}
Good post and totally agree, meanwhile and in keeping with the theme the liquidated lot are indeed on the "dark side of the moon" even for Whyte and Murray with their promise of "crazy diamonds" "time" has run out. Of course one of my favourite albums is animal...ironic really when you think of it as generally I dont like the animals...Sopot Celt PS I avoided the looking back in anger puns from...well nearly :)
28 Apr 2012 19:32:29
just seen neil warnock, leeds boss, running on the pitch to scream blue murder at officials after the game today on the local news. it'll hardly get a mention though. and why should it ? just shows his commitment. wenger, ferguson,dalglish, coyle, name a manager who hasn't done it.
Ally mccoist hes a fine upstanding manager. lets forget he started a witchhunt against 3 men that punished his club for cheating
Leave Warnock alone, I saw him on the tele calling Diouf a Sewer Rat, In fact, he said that was insulting a sewer rat. So Warnock can do what he likes :) {Ed007's Note - Colin is a complete tool. Removal men dumped his belongings in his garden and drove off because of the way he was talking to them and anyone else around. If you want to see why he is even called Colin in footballing circles, remove the letter COLIN from his name and rearrange the remaining letters.}
I actually dont have an opinion on COLIN, just heard him having a go a diouf and thought that was a nice touch. He may very well be a chump, but ive never met him so ill reserve comment. {Ed007's Note - Anyone who has a go at Diouf is usually ok in my book, but Warnock is a horrible person and not many people in football (including players) like him.}
28 Apr 2012 18:32:39
Ed, I know Peter Lawwell says that Celtic's financial well being is not reliant on Rangers being in the SPL. Has anyone calculated the potential financial implications, if any, for Celtic should this happen? We clearly need to strengthen the squad if we want to make a decent stab at qualifying for the knock-out stages of the Champions' League but I am concerned that we may be under financial pressure ouselves due to the shenanigans at Rangers.
Liah Smit
I think we have to look beyond this. rangers really dont bring that much money to celtic, or anywhere else. it might take a year for things to sink in. there is currently a lot of apathy surrounding the other clubs. fans like to have at least a chance of winning something. i remember the hearts away support filling the old 'rangers end' for a cup tie at parkhead and aberdeen doing the same for a few league matches. because they thought they could win something. anybody remember aberdeen bringing massive supports in the seventies ? the current rangers propaganda that everybody needs them is utter boll0x. the only people who need rangers are its supporters whoever they may be.
To the poster of the first reply.
Dunfermline, Kilmarnock and Dundee Utd would just be first of the teams to fold if they can't rely on the income generated by Rangers. All three are operating on a shoestring as it is (United had to let half their team go at the start of the season and Dunfermline couldn't pay their players when they didn't receive their payment on time from Rangers).
A lot of things have changed since the seventies and eighties. TV deals are worth a lot more because of the live games (new deal will be revised if Rangers are gone), the ticket prices are ridiculous now in comparison to then (prices are also scandalously bumped up every time the old firm come calling - cut that income in half straight away) and the full income generated by teams (excluding Celtic) barely covers the wage bills as wages are astronomical by comparison now also. In theory you may be correct but realistically if Rangers do go to the wall then Scottish football will be financially far worse off than it is just now and a number of other senior clubs will be forming their own 'newco's' in the not too distant future. Why else do you think the SFA/SPL are trying to accommodate Rangers (or a newco version) within the SPL? It's certainly not to satisfy the supporters - 95% of them want to see Rangers in the third division (as do I and I am a Rangers supporter). Scottish football can do without the unwanted baggage but it currently can't do without either half of the old firm like it could back then. Careful what you wish for.
Brian
28 Apr 2012 17:09:22
I hear there was only 5000 at the march. Seen more at a Jedward concert ;) not that I would anything about jedwards concerts ed. (')(') cough cough. Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - Those two clowns remind of the Bernie Winters story in Glasgow years ago 'Aw naw, there's two of them!!'}
ED007;a classic glesga bit of patter! Mike and bernie winters i think........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - Was it them GJ? Someone else has said Morecambe and Wise.}
Hey guys id rather go see jedward that that mob any day though,.,.kbarry
Ed.that was morcambe and wise. Before your time probs.artybhoy {Ed007's Note - It was before my time, I always thought it was Bernie Winters and his brother??}
Defo the Winters brothers.Heard that story told many times,from Glasgow Empire,mid 70's i think.
Jungle Bhoy.
28 Apr 2012 17:08:42
Ed,if the buyout with Gers gets sorted out and then they don't pay the administrators, can the administrators put them back into administration?
Jungle Bhoy. {Ed007's Note - The administrators are first in line to get money before anyone JB. That is why even a lot of Rangers fans are questioning what is going on, their fees are a huge drain on any incoming money.}
28 Apr 2012 16:51:12
What the hell did fat Sally think would happen if that panel was named ? Stupid fecker! But bbc just said there was no differance in the bids ? So again WTF man? Just a joke
Cb
Hey ed could you answer me somthing? do you think ally will get any punishment or have a hearing for what he has said? because what he said goes beyond the game, if so are they just waiting until after the game tmr? {Ed007's Note - I think there could be action taken. The compliance office at the SFA have a 'backlog' just now. Well that is their official word.}
28 Apr 2012 16:46:38
Just seen a pic of the Thai Tims paying their respects at reamons grave.tears blinding me.............green jhedi
Reamon was a friend of mine and it was a very emotional photo to see. Had the pleasure of seeing the Thai Tims do some songs in the parkville yesterday. It was Fantastic.
Rangers fan here the lad was a credit to blantyre and scotland we need more young people like him very sad
Where can i see that pic GJ?All i can find is their visit to see the pandas in Edinburgh.
Jungle Bhoy.
So sorry a hit the unbelievable bottom on my fone by mistake. R.I.P REAMON a true ghent never forgot!.....1888........
To the Rangers fan, you are a crandedit to your club also mate. Football is trivial in comparisson of being a decent person. Me and Raemon used to watch the Celtic games together and no matter what was happening in the game, he would always chat away to the person next to him, be it a Celtic fan or Rangers fan. It was always about 'how you are' and 'if you needed anything' with Raemon. Think about him everyday.
28 Apr 2012 16:26:33
Apparently at the march of the zombies jardine was pictured with a banner reading SFA sanctions cost jobs.Whereas not paying your bills promptly to small business owners obviously has no effect on anybody.Surely there has never been such stupidity as this? Why is jardine not leading his merry men on a march to murray's office?He sold the club to Whyte in direct contravention to his often quoted "i will only sell to someone who can take rangers forward" statement.If i was a fan thats what would anger me most,to get all hot and bothered about a transfer ban,when you have no owner or any funding pending a possible huge tax bill is borderline insanity.Has the penny not dropped that they could have been expelled from the league?Rangers fans need to wake up and realise they are being played like a fiddle,for sure Whyte caused the current mess but how did he get away with it? For nine months he never paid a penny in income tax,VAT or NI contributions.In all this time no one at ibrox noticed? All the people who work in admin and wages never thought hang on,we never seem to pay any money out? Even as a self employed guy,if i went two quarters without any out goings my accountant would be asking me questions.And remember rangers also pay rates and huge utility bills on two places.Ask yourself,if it was you,and all these rumours of your boss being a bit dodgy were around,would you do a bit of snooping or whistle blowing? I would.............green jhedi
Spot on bud
Cb
You seem to be more interested in whats happening with rangers than your own club.we should be more concerned in hammering them tomorrow and improving the squad for champs league qualifiers.fed up reading about the shame its all boring we all know they will survive and still playing in spl next season.its all about what we do in the future,its time for years of domination ,we have a young hungry manager great fans,we just need a few quality players to get us there
Sure,your right,but it needs to be monitored and questions asked.If this was us would we get permits issued for a march overnight?The supreme bit of irony is they owe the council and the police,both of whom let this go ahead........green jhedi
Jardine(a knowbody)looks and sound to me like hes trying to make himself some sort of cult hero, GJ is spot on they are marching on the basis of transfer embargo although they would obviously not have been making signings anyway even bosmans as they cannot afford wages he should crawl back under his stone,.,.kbarry
How about this, and coming from your pages mouth.....why dont you just stay on your own page then and worry about your own club instead of coming on hear. what it seems like is that you dont want to know the truth. for yous cant take the fact that your legends help bring this all on yourselves.
GJ, your right on, thats what frustrates/ can't understand for me, how they seem to think dm has nothing to do with it all. it is him that took them to the edge just to have cw take the fall and push they over, yes he is just out for money like they say but should that not be another hit on dm? you would think so eh...i think they are just trying to ignore that fact because it might hurt to much that thier legends did this to them. all the answers are with dm. i think they may be too scared to find out the real answers so they try bully and threats tactics, they are not helping thier own cause with all that, justice/rules/fair play/common sence seems to escape them, and they seem to think they are way bigger then what they are and should be above rules is what is truley mind boggeling, for if it was us i would say we diserve what we get but then again we would get the book thrown at us and not just slaps on the wrists.
Above unnamed poster. If you read the post again you will realise that you are slating one of your own and GJ replied anyway explaining why he comments so much on the Rangers situation. I AM a Rangers fan and the irony for me is that the only way you could quote "coming from your pages mouth" is if you had visited the Rangers site yourself. Either don't be a hypocrite and follow your own advice to "stay on your own page" or accept that fans, including GJ, Evingu, and a few other regular posters on here, visit and comment on both sites as that is the best way to stay 'informed' (and I use that word very loosely indeed regards both) about each others opinions.
You may make an important point somewhere in your post but I hit the reply button after finishing the first sentence so I wouldn't know. My bad?
Brian
28 Apr 2012 15:59:31
Well what do you know, the Kennedy / Blue Knights bid has been rejected and the administrators have asked them to submit an improved bid.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Is this the last bid lol {Ed007's Note - I heard a Mr Claus is due to bring one more 'at a later date'. There has been more deadlines to this than a uni professor sets for a paper to be handed in!!!}
Kennedy having extended talks over weeken zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............green jhedi
I was listening to Your Call on Radio Scotland and they mentioned that the Blue Knights bid of Ł5m only had Ł1.5 in cash involved. Where are all the multi-millionaire business men if they can only scrape that amount of cash together.
28 Apr 2012 14:21:25
ED007, did you read the excellent article by Glen Gibbons, in todays
Scotsman newspaper, methinks here is another guy who will soon be excluded from MSM Christmas party...
another "media" outlet (media used loosely) Rangers Media some of the quotes on there are really aimed at inflaming the situation, calling for RTC editor to be named, and "does anybody know anything about him" etc...
Had to laugh though at the really shocking spelling, surely RFFF could
have bought them a SPELLCHECKER?
Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I read Gibbons article Tim, he is of course not to be listened to as he is a 'well known rabid t**g' as I saw him eloquently called this morning.
I was fortunate enough to have this e-mail in my inbox when I got up this morning from those 'good friends' of mine at FollowFollow, seems at 1.15 in the morning they were still trying to organise their protest:
We need more marshals for the march and rally
Newsletters | 01:15
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To ********@hotmail.co.uk
Hi Lads and Lassies.
Due to expected numbers now turning up to tomorrow's protest, we are now requiring more Marshals to help self-police the march.
If you can help out with this, it would be great. We are meeting around the Gates of Queens Park tomorrow around 12.30pm to prepare.
If so, can you drop me a private message on FF ASAP. I will have access to these messages until around 10.00 tomorrow (28th) morning.
PM Details - http://forum.followfollow.com/member.********
Or you can e-mail me at ******@aol.com
Cheers!
EMPIRE
Heard the big march got about 3000 wonder what happened to the million fans that were in manchester lol
ED007, I hope you went as a marshall and directed them AWAY from all decent human beings ha ha ....
"Empire?" is that British Empire, the old Empire Theatre or maybe even my favourite the Empire Biscuit.
If true that only 3000 turned up, looks like as well as not walking away, they don't do Turning Up either... Timalloy {Ed007's Note - With the number's that turned up, my mammy and Moneypenny on a PMT trip could have marshalled it themselves!!!!}
28 Apr 2012 12:36:10
This whole march to an empty building and shout plan has one fatal flaw in it.When the various rangers fans groups gather(how many of them is that now?) at the park,i can see utter mayhem and confusion.Why? Because if "they dont do walking away" surely that means the march cant take place? And then how do they get there?Will they be able to walk away from there houses? Will a lot still be at work since yesterday because they didnt walk away at finishing time? And what if..........you can see where i'm going with this?............green jhedi
I hear that there will be a group of flutists at today's march, playing a number of classical tunes for the amusement of all members of the general public. I wonder if they will play my favourite " Dance of the blessed sprits" by Gluck.
Liah Smit
Nice to have a bit of humour in these depressing times
I wont even go into the reasons why this post is so silly, but I can only imagine you clicked the believable button yourself..Catweazle-talkingbone.
Nae pennys fir a scabby arcade!!
...........1888...........
@catweazle; What believable button is that then?..........green jhedi
Good too see green jhedi, on old firm weekend, your still obsessed with talking about the teddy bears haha
You even managed to give a stupid reply too. Well done. Catweazle-talkingbone.
28 Apr 2012 12:04:11
Morning ed. How ru mate? Did the march of the penguins start yet? What a laughing stock. Walter Smith and Fat Ally's are a complete joke. Is it true that our 3rd jersey is a tricolour? Orange top with White on the chest and green around the bottom. I'd love to get it for the Euros if it were. Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - I have no idea if the protest march has started BIM. I try not to pay too much attention to rag, tag and bobtail mobs, and anything that Dingwall is involved in will end up a shambles, this march will serve no purpose except cause inconvenience to people from the areas. The strip you are talking about is a fake mock up, but it is a cracking top.}
28 Apr 2012 11:42:21
Just been reading some of the rules laid down by that upstanding pillar of society Dingwall regarding The March of the Living Dead today . You really have to wonder what planet these people live on and why Glasgow city council granted a license late last night giving no regards to people living and going about their business on the south side of Glasgow.......DH
I noted they were saying only flags and songs welcome at ibrox should be aired.Well that's all right then! Going by the songs since Administration started at ibrox that bar is not set very high.Why are they going to shout at an empty building? It's all very strange........green jhedi
Very surprised glasgow city council approved anything to do with rangers with their pro-celtic agenda
They are going to shout at an empty building because they know no-one is listening to them or even wants to. I notice McCoist their number one fan is not going maybe someone should have told him a bit of exercise would do him the world of good. Lets face ithe could do with a workout as he might need to put on a jersey again if they are to field a team in the third division. lol
28 Apr 2012 11:15:13
Fantastic, you really couldn't make this one up, and I know this is an overused saying.
In real cash terms, for the CVA pot the Kennedy / Blue Knights bid is £5m and the Miller bid is £11.2m.
And wait for it, the Kennedy / Blue Knights are urging the administrators not to accept a bid that is more than double theirs, just in case it falls through during due dilligence. Well if there is no risk with the Kennedy / Blue Knights bid failing, why don't they make their bid unconditional. They won't, so there is also every chance of their bid failing. Absolutely incredible.
But the best part is, the Blue Knights with all their millionaire investors and now with Kennedy on board can only come up with £5m between them. You'd have though that with joining forces and having all these millionaires on board they could come up with significantly more than that if they really, as they claim, want to save Rangers.
And the following hurdles have still not been overcome:
1. Agreement from Whyte to sell his 85% shareholding.
2. How to deal with Whyte's £18m+ floating charge.
3. The result of the big tax case.
4. Ticketus.
5. Agreement for a CVA.
6. And in the case of the Blue Knights, any certainty that they will be able to raise funds through a share issue.
So where are we now, compared to many weeks ago, I'd say further back, with liquidation an absolute certainty.
Bye, bye Rangers.
New soup on the rangers menu administrone soup and you can get it liq liq liquidiesed if you dont bid a enough money for it dserves them right for taking egg benedict off the menu when youre holiness was named our pontiff no luck rangers this painful death of youre lub is well dererved ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha no luck you tax cheater dodgers.
28 Apr 2012 09:27:25
Hi ed, just a question probably a silly one, bit have rangers already got another named lined up meaning the will definatly fold, on the sky sports news interview the blue knights said we look forward to the rebuilding of rangers football club of 1872, would that be there new name would you think?
Cheers
Robbhoy {Ed007's Note - I don't know if Rangers have registered any new names or not. Although a lot of have been registered by others so that they can not be used.}
28 Apr 2012 09:06:45
Morning Ed. Do you think that Celtic could put in a cheeky wee bid for
Dirk Kuyt. Apparently he can leave Liverpool for around 1 million in the
summer? CM {Ed007's Note - We spoke about Kuyt during the week CM, although he would be a great signing I think his wages would be a problem.}
Dae whit ranjurs hiv dun n dont paey um any?
bit sine um furst ,ah think we cood get aff tae ah flier wae um?
that reminds me ed thurs ah few ae thaem roon posso..........
sorry thats dick kytes?
Give him an EBT