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23 Apr 2012 23:28:23
HAPPY DAYS

Disciplinary Proceedings Outcome
Monday, 23 April 2012


A Judicial Panel Tribunal convened to hear the cases against Rangers FC and Craig Whyte today concluded their findings and set out the following outcomes:

Name: Craig Whyte, Director, Rangers FC
Dates: 6th May 2011 to 6th March 2012
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Rules 66, 71 and 105

Outcomes:
The Tribunal found Craig Whyte guilty under Rule 66 and fined him £50,000.
The Tribunal returned a Not Proven verdict in respect of Rule 71.

The Tribunal found Craig Whyte guilty on three separate counts under Rule 105 and fined him £50,000 in respect of each breach.
The above sanctions shall be paid within 30 days, with interest of 4% per annum over the base lending rate of Bank of Scotland plc from the date of determination until paid.
Under Articles 94.1 and 95, the Tribunal expelled Craig Whyte for life from any participation in Association Football in Scotland.

Name: Rangers FC
Dates: 6th May 2011 to 6th March 2012
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Rules 1, 2, 14, 66, 71 and 325

Outcomes:
The Tribunal returned a verdict of Not Proven in respect of Rule 1.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 2 and imposed the maximum fine of £10,000 payable within 12 months.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 14 and imposed the maximum fine of £50,000 payable within 12 months
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 66 and imposed the maximum fine of £100,000 payable within 12 months. In addition, the Tribunal imposed a prohibition in terms of Article 94.1 and 95 of the Articles of Association, prohibiting Rangers FC for a period of 12 months from the date of determination from seeking registration with the Scottish FA of any player not currently with the club, excluding any player under the age of 18 years.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 71 and imposed a censure.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty of two breaches in respect of Rule 325 and imposed further censure.

Notes for Editors:
The Judicial Panel Tribunal shall issue a note of reasons in early course.
Both Rangers FC and Craig Whyte have a right of appeal against findings of guilt and any sanction imposed, within three days of receipt of note of reasons.
Explanatory Notes:

Rule 1 (b): All members shall:
(b) be subject to and comply with the Articles and any statutes, regulations, directives, codes, decisions and International Match Calendar promulgated by the Board, the Professional Game Board, the Non Professional Game Board, the Judicial Panel, a Committee or sub-committee, FIFA, UEFA or the Court of Arbitration for Sport;

Rule 2: Each member shall procure that its officials, its Team Staff and its players act in accordance with Rule 1.

Rule 14 (g): Full membership or associate membership may be suspended or terminated, or a fine may be issued, in any of the following circumstances:-

(g) where a full member or an associate member suffers or is subject to an insolvency event.

Rule 66: No recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee, or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall bring the game into disrepute.
Rule 71: A recognised football body, club, official, Team Official, other member of Team Staff, player or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall, at all times, act in the best interests of Association Football and shall not act in any manner which is improper.
Rule 105: Any Party who is subject to a Direction from a Tribunal must follow that Direction as so Directed by the Tribunal. Any Party who fails to do so, may be found to be in breach of this rule.
Rule 325: Failing to pay to [Dundee United FC] on the day of the match monies due under Rule 46 c (3) and e of the Scottish FA Cup Competition Rules; being [Dundee United’s] share of receipts for the match; and by failing to pay to the Scottish FA within three days monies due under Rule 46 c (1) of the Scottish FA’s Cup Competition Rules; being the Scottish FA’s levy on admission charges for the above match.
Article 94.1: The Judicial Panel shall have the power to fine, suspend, or expel or in relevant cases to eject from the Challenge Cup Competition or apply such other sanction as is provided for in the Judicial Panel Protocol any recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA who, in its opinion, in any way brings the game in to disrepute or is likely to bring the game into disrepute or on any other grounds it considers sufficient and of which, subject to the rights of appeal, it shall be the sole judge.
Article 95: The Judicial Panel shall have jurisdiction subject to the terms of the Judicial Panel Protocol to deal with any alleged infringement of any provision of these Articles. A recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA if found to have infringed the Articles shall be liable to censure or to a fine or to a suspension or to an expulsion or to ejection from the Challenge Cup competition, to any combination of these penalties, or such other penalty, condition or sanction as the Judicial Panel considers appropriate, including such other sanctions as are contained within the Judicial Panel Protocol in order to deal justly with the case in

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Their mates at the SFA have been very lenient, but lets get real this is the end! NO new signings for 12 MONTHS! (current squad will be disbanded in the close season) Whyte fined 200k (to be paid in 30 days!) rangers fined 160k (to be paid within 12 MONTHS! ffs) Whyte will not pay as he is banned from Scottish Football for life! (as Director another debt owed by rangers) NONE of these so called saviours have the money needed to keep rangers afloat & with this news & the impending HMRC decision due imminently, your luck has finally run out! it's time to pay your due's the reaper cometh. bye bye peeeople!!!!

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Happy days for who exactly? Get your head out your ass! If Rangers are liquidated what will be the point?

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Celtic need rangers rangers need celtic you know its the truth

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Have to agree on this one I hate rangers as much as the next man but this is bad news for everyone concerned. enough is enough

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Its ok having a bit of banter correct enough is enough celtic were there in 1994 and wasnt fun i would hate to see rangers go bankrupt as the same for celtic scotland needs a strong rangers celtic hearts hibs dundee utd and aberdeen etc be the best of the best thats sport the spl is bad enough but we need strong teams in the league wish some celtic fans would grow u

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Poster you should be ashamed of yourself banter is banter mate to get cheap laughs at our rivals im no great fan of think this daft joke has went on long enough scottish football needs a strong celtic and rangers as a football fan i take no comfort in the rangers situation hope some fellow celtic fans will agree end it now makes us look bad {Ed007's Note - I put your two posts together to save, as both comments were on the same thread.]

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So other teams in the SPL decide lets sign players and cut illegal deals on their contracts, don't pay tax, break SFA and SPL rules, feck paying bills and of course each club will do so without incurring any sanctions? Or does this only apply to one club? Get real.

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Enough is not nearly enough. In footballing terms I remember when RFC were an irrelevance. Aberdeen were the team to beat and they were very good. As I recall they won the European supercup. They and DU came forward as Rangers went into meltdown for about 4 or 5 seasons. Remember DU got to the final of the UEFA cup during this time and were cheated by a paid off ref in the final leg of the two leg tie having taken a 2-0 lead from Tannadice and then lost 3-0 at Roma. ( proven and accepted by UEFA and accepted by Roma so no worries for the Ed's here). My point is who then was saying we need a strong Rangers ?? Old firm games were still played with passion no matter who the favourite. What about from the late 1989 and most of the 90's. Celtic were just not up to it against RFC. We played at Hampden for a season (remember) life was very difficult for Celtic fans. No one said we need a strong Celtic. In fact most were celebrating our impending doom.... If Rangers are finished I will shed no tears. The loss of an old form game now and again far outweighs the benefits resulting in the end of an institution which historically has acted as a catalyst for bigotry and anti catholic and anti Irish behaviour for over a century in Scotland...just look at the events in the past 12 months if anyone has any doubt. So in footballing terms no loss, in societal terms big gain. Lets not all get hot and bothered about what the press and media are trying to convince us of, that we cannot survive without RFC. It is utter BS. They were and are arrogant and undignified and have been proven not to have a shred of integrity in business and it appears footballing terms. I ask again why is enough enough? Sopot Celt

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Same thing happened in the seventies when rangers went to seed. aberdeen and hibs stepped up to the plate and it was great competition. give me aberdeen and hibs over rangers any day.
what part of we dont need you dont they get ?

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Totally agree with sopot celt, its not always been celtic and rangers every year and it will take a while but if rangers disappear we will return to that situation.

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23 Apr 2012 23:06:01
SFA website that Whyte fined and rangrs fined too - its started lol

davybhoy ktf

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23 Apr 2012 22:56:49
just out rangers cant buy players for 12 months surley final nail eh

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Hebrews 12 v5-6

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23 Apr 2012 22:17:55
Congrats to the U19's on there win tonight. To win 8-0 in any final is unbelievable. Just goes to show we have some real good talent coming through.

Daz the Hoopy

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23 Apr 2012 22:15:26
8-0 thats no bad
Nevis

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Just "No Bad" eight nil in a cup final is bloody fan dabby dozzy tastic.

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23 Apr 2012 22:10:37
after winning the double tonight for the 3rd year running we should reward their effort and achievement and let the u19 s play st johnstone as i think they deserve the chance to impress before the likes of ibrui? blackman lustig brozek and the fringe players who could be leaving as young watt showed us on sunday there is loads of talent in the u19 squad ,,,deep river bhoy

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23 Apr 2012 21:06:11
Ed what is this big signing on the way rumour all about have u any clue who it could be {Ed007's Note - No.}

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23 Apr 2012 20:22:12
ED007; Well the Slinky Seductress that is Mrs J has come through! Corporate for the City v Utd game,Cant wait mate,first time for the Manc derby,really looking forward to it.You going yourself?.........green jhedi

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23 Apr 2012 21:08:19
7-0 to the wee Hoops its not finished yet ! Oooffft

I reckon we just play them on Sunday :-) Mrs E

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Mrs E, the young boys went one better than big team on winning the double, great result boys....
But spare a thought for little Queen of the South on reaching a cup final with their limited resources, take a bow Queens hail hail Timalloy

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23 Apr 2012 20:03:45
THE JIM,L FIX IT SHOW!
Now then Now then, welcome to anothur "jim,l fix it show, , but we've got a lot on tonite kids so lets crack on, right the first letter is from ,
" a wee boy in sconnie botland!"
his names Allistair,& we'll see what he has to say,
"dear jum, my family have had a really bad year,now ,my dad lost his job, my big sister got pregnant by a gypsie who ran off, my big bruvva joined the foreign legion,, & my mum was given 3 years in cornton vale prison for impersonating a male polis oficer!,
please,please please jum could you fix it for me, & my family to be together again for my nixt biff day,which is coming up soon !
thank you jum Allistair aged 51 & 3/4, x x x

" AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
" NOW THEN NOW THEN , CALM DOWN LITTLE ALLISTAIR 'COS HELPS ON THE WAY
we spoke to the foreign legion & they said yes, we spoke to the gypsies, they said yes,we spoke to your dads work they said yes, we even spoke to the BIG BIG bosses at ? yes youve guessed it the prison & weve arranged for your NEW DAD "Arthur" to come on the program tonight "WEE allistair" so as we could fix it for you ALL to be together for 1 night as a family!"
unfortunately your guardians "DUFF N DUFFER"
have refused to let you come down to Leeds this evening as they say you've been a very ,very naughty boy!, gone behind peoples back just like GEORGE MICHAEL, ( by the way george NO we cant fix THAT!") & anyway I recognise your handwriting from " question of sport" you wee prankster ally!
so you wont be coming to our big party, as all the naughty Rangers supporters have taken up soooo muuuch of uncle JIMS time lately that they can all f*** off as we,ve a party to go to with jelly & ice cream , & games like pin the blame on the donkey,& dont post the parcel!, so there wee allistair you,ve been rumbled by the "JIM,L FIX IT TEAM TONITE!"
hello daddy mcoist, oh theres two of you tonight,
oowoooow ooow!( thats the noise jimmy used ate make ed fk am tryin ma best, here jim could you fix it fur me tae get oot the BAR?)
RITE mr duff WOULD YOU LIKE A PEICE OF CREAM SPONGE?" & look children ther's people dressed up as sharks, & blue knights, a wild west rodeo, oh & quasi modo too!
pssst jim" thats ian durrant!"
who?
"exactly"

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23 Apr 2012 19:10:45
Note to Ed:
Given that Whyte never paid NI & PAYE is there and grounds for the staff which were involved in this, have "legal" grounds to take Whyte to court to get their (NI& PAYE) made up to full.
Its all very well for the players who are earning a few bob or 2. However the everyday worker then has a shortfall within their long term pension plan ,

Any idea????

HH: CPRS1 {Ed007's - I can't see any players' willing to do that.}

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23 Apr 2012 18:32:01
Bill ng. Bill miller. Tax Bill,.,.,.,.,kbarry

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The billy boys...algarvebhoy

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23 Apr 2012 17:54:59
Swiss FA refuse licences to two of leagues biggest clubs due to money irregulaties .....sit up and take notice how to deal with cheats SPL/SFA.....ttts

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Correction Zurich FC ,Young Boys ,Sion and Servette Geneva ,4 nr, from Pie and Brovil site

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The SFA or SPL dont have the bottle to carry out this to Rangers . We all know that they will get a slap on the wrists.
67Coatbridge

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Hi ttts. I understand and agree with your point to an extent but the Swiss FA wouldn't have done this of their own volition. It is suicide on a grand scale. I would also be careful with the use of the word 'cheat' which I have regularly seen used on both sites. Where do we stop if it turns into a moral argument on cheating?

They have actually refused to grant a license to eleven teams in total. Four from the top division (Serviette, Young Boys, F.C. Sion and a.n.other) and seven from the lower leagues. The Swiss FA are under severe pressure from Uefa following the controversy involving Sion earlier this year who fielded ineligible players and stood up to both of them by bringing actions against them in the European courts. My guess is they are only reacting this drastically as a consequence and had to act against all of those accused of irregularities instead of just Sion. Doubt they would have done this to their top clubs by choice if Uefa (next to FIFA the most corrupt body of the lot ironically) weren't closely monitoring their affairs and threatening them with sanctions. What affect will their actions have on the quality and attendances in their league if they don't find a way to rescind their judgement AND keep Uefa happy? They will lose out big time financially I suspect and their co-efficient will plummet. Governing bodies are also a business responsible for the football in their country from the ground up. The grass roots will also be seriously affected. They are not going to reach such a dangerous moral precedent without external influence. Swiss football could end up in the wilderness for decades to come because of this decision. What about the fans of these clubs? Do you think they will just accept it and go and support another team? What happens to the players, the stadia and the local communities that rely on them for their trade every fortnight? This has a long, long way to go yet and I would suspect a resolution whereby these clubs would be there, in one respect or another, by the start of next season. Morals regards 'cheating' unfortunately don't come into the decision making process in the cold light of day. Money talks.

Morals are great but not always practical. What constitutes cheating in a moral sense? Do we ban the next person who dives in the SPL from football for life? They are cheating and trying to gain an advantage over other teams are they not? What about something as simple as claiming for a corner when the player clearly knows it came off them last, a deliberate handball, or a professional foul? All football players actively 'cheat' in one respect or another, no matter how minor. They represent their clubs so it is then the clubs responsibility? Do we ban them all individually or just the clubs that do nothing about it? Where do we draw the line?

The SFA haven't had their collar felt by Uefa YET so I wouldn't hold out much hope of a similar action here any time soon. Rightly or wrongly Rangers and their support ironically bring a lot of cash into the Scottish game and the SFA would never voluntarily expel them unless they were left without any other viable option (the same would apply to Celtic in this regard).

Financial mismanagement and individual players actions are admittedly not on the same scale but they are both examples of cheating to affect an outcome? Do I think Rangers should get off Scot free for their financial mismanagement and bending of the rules to gain an unfair advantage and be allowed back into the SPL after all the goings on? Of course I don't (you know my thoughts on that already - 3rd division with a three year points deduction). Am I proud of my club at the minute? Only an idiot could (and probably will) say yes to that one. However, I can only see a minor punishment (exactly the same as it would have been for Celtic if the roles were reversed) being issued and the league carrying on as it is. The only way this scenario could possibly change is
if Uefa intervene. If they do I would seriously worry about the future of the Scottish game in general. The SFA will not take a moral stance when so much is at stake. I for one don't condone it but what other realistic option do they have.

Brian

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An excellent well thought out post,cheers............green jhedi

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Italians done this as well though that was for match fixing, it just shows that other leagues have the courage to drop some of their biggest teams, didnt negatively affect the italian league too much

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Good morning Brian ,another lenghty one!.
Rules in general are there to be adhered to,if not we would have a breakdown of what they have been applied to protect.Any breaches of these laws should be punished regardless of the consequences providing they are carried out in a fair manner .
"Morals are great but not always practical"So if Tescos were stacking there shelves with stolen goods it wouldnt be pratical to prosecute them even thou its Morally wrong what was done ?
"Financial mismanagement" in the present climate has effected thousands of people as they struggle to pay their bills ,keep a roof over their heads and put food on the table.
This case is a lot more serious ,where an institution seems to have took a cold calculated decision to defraud not only its supporters but the general public in a quest for a few football trophies and to line their own pockets .Not only should the authorities that govern football (seems now that they have)take a dim few of what has happened so to should the law of the land.
regards
TTTS

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Great post Brain

Now to make my point here I am not saying Rangers should get off scot free the punishment should be reflective of what has been the norm for other teams in the past regardless of circumstances.

Take a look at Motherwell back in 2002 they chased the dream and failed. They exited administration through a CVA i dont recall any other punishment other than a 10 point deduction(Ed you can put me right or wrong on this). Why was John Boyle not found to be unfit for a role in football back then and to this day still holds his role. I think the CVA was 25p in the pound. Were they ever accused of cheating because they couldnt pay for the playing staff they signed?

The SFA are as much to blame as SDM & CW in this whole fiasco. If they had carried out what was required of them back when CW took over then things might be totally different. Instead we are looking at the possibility of Rangers disappearing altogether meaning no old firm games reduced TV revenues and the stark possibility of Scottish football becoming little more than junior football. How many fans can be expected to pay good money to watch poor players and poor football.

Should we be shouting for UEFA to get involved if they do and find SFA out to be the useless entity they are what then? Will clubs be unfairly punished in European competition? will the national team be sanctioned?.
For years people have been shouting for change there is no better time for this to happen than now.
Daz

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The Italians demoted Juventus to the second division and Reginna to the third. Not the same thing as witholding a club's registration which bans them from playing in any competitions within the respective FA at all. Juventus were initially also docked 30 points for the start of that season. This was reduced to 9 on appeal before the season started and instead of facing further relegation they gained promotion back into the first division that same year. Also the Italians have eight or nine top quality teams (Milan got in the back door and won the Champions league that year) so could cope minus ONE star name for a season. Don't think the Swiss have that luxury somehow. A long, long way to go as I said.

Brian

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Good Afternoon TTTS, it seems all I can do is lengthy, lol. As I said at the start of my reply I do agree with you to a certain extent. At no point have I said, or did I say, that rules should be broken without consequence. I have advocated the demotion of Rangers to Division 3 with a three year points deduction on numerous occasions on this site. As I also said, these eleven clubs effectively being frozen out of competitive football for an indeterminable period through not receiving a registration to compete from their FA is tantamount to suicide for Swiss football AND the surrounding communities. Where does the high moral stance in imposing this severe a punishment stand next to massive redundancies, loss of revenue for the small businesses in the surrounding areas and the probable implosion of football within a country. Not as morally black and white now, is it? They have done wrong, punish them accordingly. Don't cut your own throat and affect the lives of countless thousands of innocent parties whilst doing it. Uefa are behind this, they have to be, otherwise the Swiss FA haven't thought the 'moral' consequences of their actions through properly.

I like your example of Tesco's. Here is a similar scenario for you to consider. Tesco's stack their shelves with stolen goods as does the local independent shop. Who gets the slap on the wrist and who gets 'bent over' for want of a better phrase. Tesco's would still operate as they always have, with a minor censure and the retirement on full pension of a few board members, and would only close their doors if customers 'morally' chose to stop going through them (a bit like Ratners). Possible rebranding would follow to try and remove the stigma but in essence it is still Tesco's. The independent would be shafted ten ways from Sunday, closed, and the owners jailed and accused of being the worst of the worst. The difference? Tesco are one of the largest employers in Britain. Yes there are other big stores and no doubt the land would be bought and used by others but the government would have to consider the overall implications of treating them the same way they would treat the independent. Would they be morally correct to act in this way? No. Would they get flack for it? Absolutely. But I can fully understand why they would do it. As I say, good on the Swiss FA but there is a long, long way to go yet and I see these teams starting (particularly the bigger ones who bring in the revenue) the next season with more realistic punishments in place. We shall see.

I am really enjoying the 'adult' (that one is for Ed007) debate!

Brian

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Brian ,have to admire your thoroughness .

Basically what you're saying is ,it's wrong but it is acceptable for "the greater good"not your decision but the powers that be .
Even thou you are most probably correct I won't agree with what is done or about to be done to protect those who are guilty of such......TTTS (ED can you edit him a bit ,he's testing my grey matter a tad more than I require ;-) )

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23 Apr 2012 12:59:00
Been looking on many different sites this morning and it doesn't look like the youth cup final will be available to watch anywhere other than by going tothe game. I must say its quite disapointing! English cup final was shown live on television and we cant even manage a stream on the internet. I'm sure a lot of people would like to watch this game but can't make to to the match!

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Radio Scotland are covering this suppose better than nothing

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Dont think it will be on any tv, unless Celtic tv have it, i dunno, but it looks like it is on sportsound, which may be better than nothing!

Evinguu

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23 Apr 2012 12:13:26
Does anyone know the reason why the season ticket renewals have not been sent out yet?

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They're waiting to see if Rangers will still be in the SPL. If not they'll have to reduce the prices.

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I believe that we should keep the price of our books the same as this season to ensure we have plenty of funds to strengthen the squad for europe regardless of what happens to Rangers FC (still in administration).

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To see if we have old firm games or not. prices will depend on this

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Ticketus have the rights to most of the seats for the next 3 years very confusing situation just now bears hold tight

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Nothing to do with Rangers games we will still have the same amount of home games as this season before the split. The only supporters who pay more for the Rangers games are the non season ticket holders.

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23 Apr 2012 11:54:26
Ed - what are the arrangements for Rangers paying for ticket's for this weelend's game. {Ed007's Note - As far as I know the usual arrangements are in place.}

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We must get paid upfront they are bad debtors and we are due money as it is!

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There was a gentlemans agreement put in place that Jim Traynor has hard evidence of on his desk saying that Rangers will not be able to meet this requirement. But the spl will pay around 35% of the amount themselves out of the rangers tv monies they are due. And Celtic will have to go to the bottom of the list of creditors like everyone else..... Fair deal I suppose....

Maybe, just maybe they may have the money! Maybe!

Evinguu

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Why did we not give them tickets and sell to home fans? Before anyone mentions breach of league rules I doubt very much we'd be pulled up for that under the circumstances. Alternatively do as other teams do and have fans dealing/paying direct to us

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No money no Tickets fill the ground with Celtic Supporters and take the fine that we will recieve from the SPL. Reduced Policeing costs as there will be a reduced risk.

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22 Apr 2012 19:44:03
Hi Ed. I don't post on the site too often by i'm an avid reader could you give me your view and opinion on what is going on at ibrox and ultimately what do you think is going to unfold will they be liquadated? will they get a CVA? Will the SFA pander to this supposedly great institutionn ie no points or financial implications etc etc and do you have any info on what revelations Celtic have over the SFA referees etc. Cheers Franny. {Ed007's Note - I don't think they will get a CVA, only companies with good credit ratings and a good record of paying taxes usually get one. For legal reasons I can't comment or speculate on refereeing situations, sorry.]

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The SFA would be cutting their own throat if they agreed to a deal with Miller. It won't happen.
Rangers will be liquidated ultimately as there is no way out for them. There will be no CVA agreed.

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23 Apr 2012 10:09:09
just been reading an interesting quote on a webpage called companyrescue.co.uk . '' hmrc will agree to a cva but only if it is a properly structured document, a well thought through plan ,AND THE COMPANY HAS BEEN COMPLIANT WITH TAX RULES IN THE PAST.. that says to me no cva . they turned oddbins down for a cva for that reason.. bb.

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There should be no CVA for cheats. Rangers FC (still in administration) have dodged paying everyone down to their 'paperboy' and taking monies that should have gone elsewhere (including charity) they are dispicable and I am sick and tired listening to their equivocations - it was not memister it was two other boys etc - HMRC should shut them down!

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23 Apr 2012 09:45:40
Hi Edd, do you know if there will be any live streams of the Youth Cup final tonight? Would love to go to the game, but i'm not in the country so it would be quite difficult! {Ed007's Note - I don't know but I'm sure someone else will............

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22 Apr 2012 18:57:12
ed is it not just to easy miller dictating the way HE wants things done(not to heavy sanctions etc..)there must be something in it to come for them or is it just me but i thought it was this country`s football authorities he is dishing his orders at,kb-bhoy {Ed007's Note - He can't dictate any terms.}

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He can't dictate but he has planted the seed only time will tell if it has beded itself in sympathetic ears.

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