Celtic Rumours Archive December 18 2017

 

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18 Dec 2017 18:26:39
The imminent arrival of Marvin Compper baffles me tbh due to his age. Obviously Erik must be for the off but I don't think it means the end for big Ajer. No doubt Compper will be a handy squad player and hopefully Ajer will be promoted with Boyata and SIMUNOVIC taking on the Erik standby role. Hope so anyway. Fans need a lift but nae harm to Marvin he doesn't exactly thrill ye to bits. Yesterday against that big lanky thug Lafferty we could have done with Marvin Hagler ☘.

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18 Dec 2017 23:36:34
hes gorra be a kolo type signing just steady the ship, give the other guys a rest. Maybe a calm experience voice in Simo/ Boyata/ Ajer/ Erik ear. as kolos and JKs off the field don't seem to be working.

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{Ed007's Note - Lustig is more experienced than Compper who's had one cap and 19 mins of CL football under his belt. We need quality not 'experience', that's just an excuse threw about to justify signing older players with nothing else good to say about them. Nobody that's seen Compper play a lot more than I've seen have a good word to say about him, a Chelsea fan (an ex-Ed) said on the live chat that he's slower than Bitton.
If what JK and Toure are doing isn't good enough how is Compper going to help, is he going to over rule the coaches now? Get rid of JK and Toure if it's not working and use their wages and the Compper money to sign a 'keeper.}

19 Dec 2017 10:57:14
I totally agree with every word ed - just trying to find a reason to justify that signing. and that was it.

hes definitely not a long term prospect / project. he doesn't seem better than what we have.

So I arrived at experience - or - does he have a good mate and we are signing him so his mate will come?

does anyone know why we are signing him?

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{Ed007's Note - I've said all along I don't see Compper being a first choice CB, he'll be used as cover/rotation at CB and LB. I think because he's going to be the first in the door this window people think he's our main target/signing but maybe it's just been a straightforward deal with no long drawn out negotiations.}

19 Dec 2017 13:30:25
A quick signing to show our intentions to appease the fans and we are all moaning. lol.

Do you think br sees 'A forgotten man' and can get the best from this guy?

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{Ed007's Note - As I said earlier, I think a lot of people are thinking that Compper is Rodgers main target because he's been brought in so quickly but I don't think that's the case.}

19 Dec 2017 20:39:51
just as a foot note, he played from the start in the game v servco they won 4-0.

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18 Dec 2017 12:41:03
Hi ED, Any truth in the rumour Compper is over for a medical today ready to sign a 2 and a half year deal? Article about it on Video Celts.

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{Ed007's Note - Seemingly so but it's a 2 1/2 year deal with an option of another year. We're obviously building for the future by giving a 32-year-old (33 in June) a possible three year deal - no wonder he told RB Leipzig he wanted to make the move.}

18 Dec 2017 13:10:58
I don’t really understand the deal to be honest! Surely another CB will be brought in for the long term? Maybe Rodgers has confidence in Ajers progression?

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{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ajer go out on loan again. He's proven during his loan spell at Kilmarnock and his appearances for us that he is more than capable of playing at SPFL level so why is a near 33-years-old pushing him further down the pecking order?}

18 Dec 2017 14:56:36
Makes perfect sense to me. A player brought in for less than £1m. Job done as far as our borad are concerned.

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18 Dec 2017 14:10:38
I’m unsure ED! Seems odd to me, Ajer seems like he can play out the back of defence, just needs a bit more expeirience in my opinion. He’s definetley going to be important in the future. What’s your view on Ajer ED?

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{Ed007's Note - I think Ajer is a cracking young player and a great prospect. He's got pace, good in the air, composed on the ball and looks comfortable bringing the ball out of defence. After yesterday's debacle Wednesday night against Thistle would be an ideal game for Ajer to start, we're playing the team at the bottom of the league and we're at home.}

18 Dec 2017 15:38:17
He won't cost us too much as Erick will now be sold which will cover that what do u think ED.

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{Ed007's Note - It's still a waste of £1 million.}

18 Dec 2017 15:39:35
Could be the idea is to play this guy beside ajer?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see Compper as any more than a squad player covering the CB and LB positions.}

18 Dec 2017 16:43:09
I don’t mind this signing as I’ve completely lost faith with all the centre backs, and in my opinion so has Brendan . We have been saying we need a back up for kt and if he can fill in there all the better. I would like a quality centre back to come in as well, although it’s easier said than done . We don’t find Virgil type defenders just hanging around at a few million price range. Lovren who cost about 20 million is a regular international but looks no better than boyata, so you don’t always get your moneys worth. I have never seen this lad play but if you make a career in the German leagues you must be half decent, the fact he’s cup tied for Europe again tells me Rogers wants him for the league as he doesn’t trust the ones he has. Someone here earlier said about building for the future but I don’t think we are in a position or League to build for the future. It has to be short term for us as any player that shows promise is gone within 2-3 seasons max so how can we possibly build anything .

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{Ed007's Note - But we'll get 2/3 seasons off them and sell them on and bring in others, that's planning for the future. Are we going to get 2/3 seasons and then sell Compper to an EPL side? He'll be here and then retire probably!
Didn't we get where we are by bringing in players, developing them and selling them on? What we need is some serious investment in the team in 2 or 3 positions and not over the hill German CBs or 37-years-old GKs like Boruc.
Edson Braafheid is free this coming summer, how about selling KT and getting him in? He's played in Holland, Germany and Italy so he must be half decent too then?}

18 Dec 2017 17:12:04
Could this signing be for nothing more than a stop gap left sided CB? Untill some other who they may be eyeing comes available.

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{Ed007's Note - A potential 3 and a half year deal for a stop gap? I doubt it, D.}

18 Dec 2017 17:07:12
So do u think he has been second choice to who we really want in and if we can't get that player in we will at least have this guy in? Or on a more positive note he is one of two CH we will bring in this window?

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{Ed007's Note - I'm hopeful we'll bring another CB in but I'm not holding out much hope in it happening.}

18 Dec 2017 17:27:51
Ed I totally agree with you. If it happens then He'll be another player on far too much money sitting on the bench. I'm starting to think the board have told BR that he has little money to spend on new signing which would be ridiculous. Sign the guy up for 6 months at the most so he can cover until summer, that's what I think.

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{Ed007's Note - How did we get from Rivaldo Coetzee to Marvin Compper?}

18 Dec 2017 18:32:12
What an absolute joke, once again this just shows the ambition of our club, i can't believe this, he is not better that what we have.

I live in Germany but i'm not the biggest fan of German football so i have asked around about this guy and no one had really anything good to say about him, at best he's ok but at 32 he's only going to get worse.

I can only imagine it's for his experience, but his standard of football is not what's needed to take us forward.

we should be looking at player's like Ntcham or Edouard with great
potential, there's plenty of young quality in the French, Belgium and Dutch leagues.

Björn Engels signed for Olympiacos in the summer for around 7m euros, That's the type of player i want to see us signing, if they can spend that amount on defender why can't we?!

Once again we're getting short changed

Ed i agree with you 2 or 3 good signings and we would have a quality team.

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18 Dec 2017 19:09:05
We don't need squad players it is quality we need. What happened to not buying unless it improves the squad? I'm not convinced a 32 year old will have the legs to play cover in LB when Lustig is 31 and struggles with the pace on the wing and is done going by most people's opinions on here. Is Congerton responsible for this Compper guy? Has Coetzee recovered from injury and playing again? Like to see us try go for him again. Would him and Compper solve our defensive problem? It'll be under £2m for the pair of them which isn't a lot considering what we've raked in the past 2 seasons.

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18 Dec 2017 19:17:48
I appreciate he may not be what everyone wants on here but has anyone had an idea that he maybe an improvement on what we have, and let’s face it, it wouldn’t be that hard. Maybe Brendan thinks we are in a bit more of a race this season due to injuries, fatigue loss of form and getting a centre back in might see us through. He may look at it that 900 grand is worth the price of us winning the league again is worth it. Hand on heart can anyone on here say they have watched him consistently, or Coetzee or Benkovic . I know we have been linked with Benkovic so maybe that’s Rogers number 1 target . I would love to see us signing a quality centre back as like most of us on here I’m sick of watching boyata passing to the opposition with a 10 yard pass, but like Ed I can’t see that happening. From a personal point I would have preferred us to have signed skertl last summer. Hard defender, loads of experience and probably within our price range . ( what’s Marc rieper up to these days 😉.

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{Ed007's Note - I also expect Steven Caulker to arrive, possibly in January or signing a pre-contract to join in the summer when his QPR contract expires.}

18 Dec 2017 19:24:19
Now that would good not holding my breath right enough.

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{Ed007's Note - I was only told about it this evening, Rich while I was moaning about Compper to them.}

18 Dec 2017 19:46:48
Oh right believe it when I c it was it a reliable source?

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{Ed007's Note - No, I just pass on any old garbage people I hardly know tell me.}

18 Dec 2017 20:10:31
Ok ED.

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{Ed007's Note - :-p

18 Dec 2017 20:12:33
That's more like it Ed, he would be a quality signing, BR would get him back to his best.

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{Ed007's Note - It cheered me up, Baz - and that takes a lot :-D

18 Dec 2017 20:26:50
Hope your right ed really like him.

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18 Dec 2017 20:30:58
Mentioned Caulker earlier Ed that would be a terrific signing. I hope he is back to health and we can get the best out of him.

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{Ed007's Note - Fingers crossed.}

18 Dec 2017 21:08:04
It's just Rich T Ed he has trouble with his DIGESTIVE system :-P.

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{Ed007's Note - How's the Terry Henry joke going down?}

18 Dec 2017 21:41:06
Oh aye very funny my sides are splitting Jamiebhoy7 haha. Any more on the story we maybe interested in Mousonda?

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{Ed007's Note - Nothing's changed since the other day, he's available for loan but Chelsea want to bring a replacement in first before there'll be any movement.}

18 Dec 2017 21:20:56
No bad mate my nephews loved it (Y)

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{Ed007's Note - That'll be a classic :)

18 Dec 2017 22:08:26
Glad you liked it Rich T hope you realised I was only taking the biscuit (Y)

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18 Dec 2017 22:26:25
Yeah yeah haha good one.

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19 Dec 2017 05:20:43
Wow.
The reaction on this to us signing a 32 year old defender is absolutely mental.
At least give the guy a chance before he's even kicked a ball .

And as for looking to the future we have plenty of players at an age where they could be with us for years to come so maybe an older head at the back is what we need right now and after Sundays performance I wouldn't say no to that.

Also heard that Crystal Palace and ex Liverpool defender Martin Kelly is top of Brendans list for the RB position. out of contract in the summer so wouldn't cost a great deal.

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21 Dec 2017 22:53:46
Of course what I would like is unimportant, but it would be great if we could suspend judgement on Compper until at least the end of the season .
Despite the decent financial position Celtic are in we cannot compete in the Western European markets for top quality players in their prime . We have to buy young players like Kouse, who may not make it and Ntcham who probably will make it . Also players in their 30's hoping to get a couple of years with them at their best.

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