Celtic Rumours Archive June 17 2012

17 Jun 2012 23:53:04
The thing about Rodallega Ed is that he doesn't seem a natural goalscorer in the slightest, he has 1 good game in every 4 or 5 and is grossly over rated due to the gutter press linking him to Spurs and Arsenal last summer. I'd say he is better than Stokes though lol. He also seems to think he's better than he is, apparently he's caused a bit of trouble at Wigan and I would stay well clear. Although I think he would be able to score a few in your league, due to the amount of poor teams in it but Hooper is a better player and if I was a Celtic fan I'd rather see someone who would love to play for Celtic sign, like Rhodes or Leitch-Smith, who would be on less than half his wages as well. Especially as you will walk the League next year anyway, might as well bring in someone with the potential to become a very good player instead of an average at best one. {Ed007's Note - I was thinking of him playing in a free role behind a main striker, I know he isn't an out and out goal scorer, so I was thinking more as a replacement for Commons (or Stokes) if they left.}

Henrik wasn't a natural goalscorer, and was an outcast too at feyenoord, I'm not comparing obviously, but some players are just worth a punt. Bhrydo BHoy

17 Jun 2012 22:15:28
Everyday I'm Huddling song by Braybhoy.

Top scenes,what a difference from Mowbray's season.

Jungle Bhoy.

Aw it's brilliant. I even try to do it most of the time but at my age, its not always a good idea ~ Mrs E

Its fandabbydozy!

Why are we so good

So proud to be a celt :)

Fantastic!!!!!!!

Can you imagine that on a Champs Lge evening?I so hope we reach group stages.

Jungle Bhoy.

17 Jun 2012 19:34:26
Celticnews ,
Celtic have been offered £7.5 m for ki , expect to hear more on the subject in the next 24 hours..AS

If this is true, then take it

Take it & lets buy rangers lol

lenny

FFS Grab it with both hands....QUICK before they see him and change their minds...

Iain

Hold out. Look for £8mil to £9mil. We are in the driving seat and we have. Couple of parties in for him. Think about image rights and se Asia marketing.

I call him the myth, cant undersatnd what people see in him, park from Man utd is a player {Ed007's Note - Do you watch Man Utd? Park is one of the worst players in the squad, apart from his energy and work-rate he adds nothing to the team any more.}

The image rights are a big thing and is why he will go for this kind of money. just think, the record is the Mcgeady one and they are offering like 2mill less for Ki thats crazy(crazy good though). i mean with Mcgeady and his talent at the time to Ki its a big difference but i think Ki is good and we should try and get a sell on clause or extra bonuses because of the image right.

No one has seen the best of Ki. For whatever reason the Scottish game does not suit him. I am convinced if he goes to a more technical league he will shine. Look at the damage he did in the Europa competition against quality players. 8 million is not crazy money for a player that can only get better. He is only in his early 20's and as has been mentioned the Asian exposure can be worth a fortune to anyone who signs him. Remember that dud Arteta, he was pretty hopeless at times in the SPL. The old Rangers sold him for what? 2M to Everton, within a year we had quotes of 10M plus. I see Ki in this category. BTW I always thought Arteta was a player.Ki will be quoted in the 10- 15m category by the time he is 25. Sopot Celt

17 Jun 2012 18:34:44
the guy that said bangura scores for fun in bounce games is that games with the under 16s.he wont get a game before stokes hooper and sami and the new striker we are going to sign.i would love it if he was any good but im afraid he isnt

Ok no name and what are you baseing this on? Remember a certain Mr H.Larsson didnt do very good to start with.

Now before you start going off on one im not comparing him to the king of kings all im saying is give him a chance and if come christmas he still hasnt done anything then we can judge him then.

JGD

We will lose him next January for the African Cup Of Nations so i would keep him until after then just incase he has a stormer and might generate more interest.If he comes back to us and he then starts doing well then it will be a bonus to us,either way we can't lose as i don't think we would get much more money for him now than we would next summer.

Jungle Bhoy.

Bangura has had many chances and done hee haw, not like young Watt who showed he knows how to score goals in the SPL.

It was me who said it, look at big hartson, how many games before he scored his first for celtic? a dont remember the exact amount but it took him a while to get off and running mate. I reckon he will be decent if he gets a run in the side and stokes thinks he is a one man band sometimes (dont get me wrong i will take his goals every week)

Right lets not forget who recommended bangura to us to start with. and how can you expect the boy to score if he only gets on 12-15 minutes at the end.. and yes i know hes had a few starts most memorably against hearts but the whole team was s***e that day.

Give the boy a chance and the goals will definately follow

Kieran1967

Have faith

17 Jun 2012 16:51:28
Quick question..

Some months ago Celtic FC said they had the nuclear option in place should Rangers be liquidated.

What is it and when is it happening?

I for one an fed up of The suits trying everything to appease Newco FC.

Thoughts?

You are getting your sites mixed up pal, this was posted on RTC by a poster who said he knew things which would be "nuclear" Timalloy

17 Jun 2012 16:33:22
Story on the clubs notice boards that if SLY try and force the SFA
hands and allow force newCo in then the fansof all the other clubs will vote and not renew their SLY Sports Package (people power) thus SLY will not have any one watching and just like the old days listening on the Radio and god forbid people actually will go to the games.

BAsically same Game Rangers are playing with CG v WS.

17 Jun 2012 12:18:15
And so it begins.I think we all knew that as soon as the "legned" Walter put his head above the parapet, that the the Scottish press,in a high state of arousal no doubt,would gallop to his aid.Gordon Waddell in the sunday Snail seems to favour relegation to the first division,as a so called champion and supporter of a "diddy" team, why? He claims it would kick start a new voting structure and a fairer environment for every other club.He also claims it would persuade sly and espn to continue covering Scottish football.This he claims,would protect the central income of the clubs.On the relegation factor,What would happen to the team who has won,fairly and squarely,promotion to the first division? Dundee up,TRFC down, so the winners of the second division add a team to that league? Do they get a pay off to tun their back on promotion? This small matter seems to be missing from his blueprint.On the sly/espn deal,both have stated that they will be investing in the Scottish game,possibly with a smaller sum,but there will be money for clubs.To continually paint the picture of ALL money vanishing is lazy,sloppy reporting.Roddy Forsyth in the Telegraph takes a different tack.As should be the way with a non tabloid,the reporting is more fact based.Pointing out the facts,at the moment TRFC have no share in the SPL,They have a stadium and players(possibly) but no where to play.As Mr Green has still not lodged a letter of acceptance to the SPL to consider i would think that should be job one. Forsyth then has quotes from the TRFC chairman,Malcolm Murray.He claims" Allys vital,he has iconic status like Walter,he never wanted to leave,over the moon he is staying,our main objective was this".Then it gets interesting,"We are PRETTY confident the long term interests of TRFC will be looked after" So not certain then Malcolm? And on he goes " stage one is MCCOIST being more positive" Hmm,interesting that the pally Ally has been dropped."the vision is to have a debt free TRFC" That i would think does not apply to the 8.5m they owe already to the Green group? But the kicker for me is this,what i find astonishing,quote,"We have had GIANT punishments already,a Euro ban and a ten point penalty,the emotional trauma we have all suffered,for the Good of Scottish football we should be in the SPL". A couple of points here,All through Murrays blurb he refers to TRFC as "rangers",should somebody tell him that club is dead? The punishments you have received are standard in football for gross bad management,and yet again the lack of humility is staggering.Not a word about creditors.Some things change but the arrogance that emerges from Ibrokes is constant..............green jhedi

Green Jhedi, good post as usual. Firstly team X or 12 do not understand that the 3 year euro ban is NOT a punishment, it is a mandatory rule. As for Sally, I hope he stays as manager he is a fud. Did you hear our Roddy Forsyth is a creditor also, poor Roddy lost his debenture, maybe a visit to a dentist is in order...
We all know that team X/12 will try all tricks and be ably supported by jabba, chicko, etc..but the good thing is supporters of ALL clubs now do not want tainted club X/12 anywhere near Scottish football. Timalloy

Welcome back Green Jhedi, your points and views have been missed. Seriously though what were you playing at going on holiday when all this was due to play out. You need to get your priorities right mate LOL : )

ShuggyBhoy88

Could not agree more.....with Shuggybhoy88....what you thinking of going on hols for greenjhedi.

Good points. The only thing to point out is that the top team in Division 2 will still get promoted, as Club 12 and Dundee would have swapped places.

Totally astonishing!! You guys refer to TRFC 'newco' as being tainted and due punishment but that old Rangers is DEAD at the same time. The Euro Ban is, as GJ states, mandatory for ANY newco but, as things stand, there is NO mandatory criteria set by SPL for a newco. That's why it's now discretionary on the SPL clubs to come up with NEW CRITERIA for entry. Remember guys new criteria should not be clouded by fans' demands for punishments no matter the severity. We're either newco or not - you can't have it both ways.......Personally I have no problem with the history argument - if it's lost then so be it. Newco means exactly what it says.

Love reading your stuff Green Jhedi.
Welcome back.

GoldCoastBhoy

Don't know what you're on about GJ with the Dundee up TRFC down scenario you have painted? Why is this any different to Dundee up Dunfermline down? One up one down. Have i misread your post?
You then go on to slate Malcolm Murray's statement. How can he justifiably be confident at this stage? No Newco proposal has been forwarded or accepted yet. There is also the issue with the season tickets,and the WS consortium challenge. I would suggest any of the above would create some dubiety,not to mention the as yet unassigned sanctions.
The only other noteworthy bone of contention is your argument that Rangers are dead."The Rangers football club plc" is dead. "The Rangers Football club Ltd" is the new company still to be afforded the right to compete in Scottish football.Obviously the only difference is the three letters at the end. So he is entitled to reference "Rangers".
The fact that TRFC has not been registered or accepted as a member club yet, further devoids your mute point regarding "So not certain then Malcolm?"
P.O.B.

@POB;Gotta take it on the chin regarding the "team up " scenario,bit jet lagged still i think.Once again you are dealing in semantics to muddy the water in your favour.Murray should surely be projecting a confident front to A; gain the confidence of the rangers support or B; get the best price for a sell off to walters group? With regards to your last line "not certain Malcolm" you will accept then that this could also mean the vanishing of rangers? Would you say that he exudes confidence? Should that not be what en executive in his position should be doing? I look forward to more of your semantic heavy responses to cloud the fact your argument is pretty weak. And by the way,a point is moot,not mute...........green jhedi

Hey GJ, hope you enjoyed the holiday. I have missed our jovial jousts over the past month or so. Unsurprisingly I am with P.O.B. regards most of it but to your great credit you always raise valid points requiring debate and give your own honest analysis and opinion on them. Your point about the 'one up one down' may still actually be in your favour though. The way I read it initially was if the newco gains access even to the First Division via relegation instead of having to re-apply to the 3rd then the second placed teams in both the 2nd and 3rd divisions would be missing out on moving up the leagues also and may justifiably be able to seek recompense? If that is indeed what you were initially getting at (I will accept desynchronosis as an excuse on this occasion, lol) then it is an extremely valid point I hadn't considered previously. Welcome back.

Brian (P)

Oh, and by the way, the Newco would have 'nowhere' to play, not 'no where'.
Sorry, couldn't help myself, you started it, lol! ;-)

17 Jun 2012 09:00:53
I know nothing's official and just rumours but think rodallega would be a great signing, big strong foward, would terrorise defenses up here! I know he could have scored more in England but that was with a Wigan side struggling from relegation, he will get a lot more chances and better service from us

He would be a fantastic signing mate, anyone who doesnt see it hasnt got a clue. He would run riot up here. Brilliant in his first season at wigan, then Martinez stopped playing him up front (even though the previous season he set the record for highest goalscorer for Wigan in the premiership ever) and instead left or right side of a front 3 or on the left wing in a 4-4-2. Its obvious...he is a striker, so play him there and he will score goals. Just like he has done all through his career. 110 career goals and he is 26. UNFORTUNETLY i cant see us getting him. Hope i am proved wrong though

I don't want to see him here mate, and I know quite a few people who would say I do have a clue !

I'm not original poster but you know quite a few people who obviously have even less of a clue than you mate! If Zamora or Keane can come here and score goals then this lad would run a mock. Pointless, critical reply IMO

17 Jun 2012 07:31:17
Hey Bhoys,

Just got home from a day out on the Tweed, watching my bhoy play in a round robin comp against the best under 7's on the coast. We had two teams represent our club and they did us proud, as they met in the final! My sons team came out on top coming from behind for a 2-1 win.

The point I'm making is it doesn't matter who you play, where you play or how much you get paid, if you love the game and you love your club, no circumstance or consequence will water it down.

Our league will continue, regardless of the negative neds down the river, because we love our football.

Well done son, the first of many!

GoldCoastBhoy

Well Said, we dont need rangers.

17 Jun 2012 00:16:01
ed do you know if rodallega has signed for celtic {Ed007's Note - I tweeted yesterday what was said, I don't give anything on Twatter any credence, even my own stuff!!!}

What is your twitter ed? {Ed007's Note - @JamesBonded007

17 Jun 2012 00:16:44
PMSL at the old Rangers having 5 stars for league title wins, that is embarrassing to say the least, is that what that knob with the tattoo on Celtic sightings is for? Oh my. Even Rangers fans must surely agree its a bit tragic, you should only have a star if you have won the European Cup/Champions League, shouldn't have one for anything else.
JFT96
Smithy

It's just another example of the team formerly known as Rangers trying to out do Celtic. They've spent years trying to convince themselves that they are better than us and look where it's got them. Still, at least that's one thing they have achieved that we haven't, liquidation!

Rangers have won more officialy recognised trophies than any other professional team in the entire world. S F A say history transfers to newco .My many good celtic supporting friends [guys i would die for] get embarrassed when ref's get blamed for every game that rangers win. Most bears i know are as mortified as you are delighted at the daily revelations of the mismanagement of our club, its been a hard few months. Hate to bring religon into this but I detest the lowlife that drag my club down ,believe me most of us do. Mum is/was r.c.[religon was never mentioned in my house], nieces & nephews r.c. but support rfc/cfc 50/50. My next door neighbours oldest son[36] is r.c. but supports rfc or newco if you prefer. My job takes me into pepoles houses every day of the week and it would amaze you how many couples have season tickets for opposite ends of the city. Finally good luck in the CL qualifiers, Scotland needs you to do well. After we have taken our punishment and we get back playing each other again, please lets leave politics out of it. Also to suggest refs may have bias is only judging them by your own standards .If I was a ref I would want to show how good I was irrespective of who I was reffing. Personal pride.Its a thankless task believe you me, I've tried it.

16 Jun 2012 23:54:04
Got it on very good source, that Simon Cox will have talks with Celtic, if they offer him a contract he will sign if it's acceptable.
paddybhoy