Celtic Rumours Archive April 15 2012

 

Use our rumours form to send us celtic transfer rumours.

15 Apr 2012 23:28:19
Now that I have had time to reflect, I am going to be realistic and honest in my opinion.
Delighted we won the SPL, but the 10 point deduction helped take pressure off for the run-in even though I know we went on a terrific run to overturn the 15pt deficit in Oct/Nov.
So it saved us from a possible nervy climax after the split. League Cup Final was a big dissapointment as we did not turn up and Killie deserved to win and we fell at the same hurdle last season.
There was a dubious referee decision at the death involving a strong penalty claim, denied.
Possible League decider at Ibrox: A selection and tactical disaster and we were second best and hindered by 2 red cards and NL sent off.
League clincher at Rugby Park was a big highlight as the team played with style, confidence and flair that we hadn't seen for a wee while.
Sc Cup semi against Hearts was again back to shuffling defense and nervy start, although we had most of the ball we failed to beat a team that were in all honesty, there for the taking.
Another very controversial referee display with a handfull of debateable decisions.
So do I sit and feel -as you do - that we are victims of referee conspiracy? Or do I reflect on happier times when we had better players that could have been well on the way to a Treble with goals to spare no matter what referees did or failed to do?
We failed too many times to produce the kind of football played at Kilmarnock last week, in our most important games and that is why I feel we could have done even better; and what a boost that would have given the whole club, instead of raising more doubts and questions.
That is how I see it. Hail Hail.

Jungle Jim

Believable6 Unbelievable6

Hard to disagree with any of that mate..........green jhedi

Agree0 Disagree0

Lennon legend!. realy how many big games have celtic won with him as manager?. rangers have been in dire straits for 4 years now and we have only 1 title to show and the only reason is rangers fell apart due to what was going on inside ibrox. are we expected to see this title as a triumph or was it not sheer good fortune given rangers were 15 points clear before cracks started to show as soon as these cracks started to show uncertanty cost rangers giving celtic the break we needed. 2 cups down the pan is this the real neil lennons celtic?. obviously il be tore apart here but in my opinion neil lennon is 100% celtic but i think he has a lot to learn not just about football but keeping his mouth shut and keeping face rather than sticking his chin out and gloating at others when they are down. how foolish must you feel now neil?.

Agree0 Disagree0

Stop blaming the referees and anyone else for the team and managers failings.

Typical garbage from celtic fans....always cheated, never defeated!!!!

Agree0 Disagree0

Above poster is obv daft as he has not read any above comment, typical rangers fan always right never s**te!

Agree0 Disagree0

Re: referees; Read all the post not just selective sentences like a DR 'reporter' and take it out of context and pontificate.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 23:18:54
Really confuses me when I see Bankie bhoy so I will be signing off as Bankier bhoy aka canadian pete from now on. Lets all just calm down a bit here! If we were asked at start of the season league title sewn up with 5 games to go and fat ally out of every cup before we even had time to answer the question we would all have said take that this year and every year. Today hurt especially the manner of the defeat, last min pen etc (question how much injury time was there? Didnt see the board from where I was and was beattie booked? What a pri!ck!) Anyway wee need to give the wee teams a chance to win some trophys maybe ever in a few years time we can let the currants win one or two (ah ha ha ha ha) forgot they wont be here! Lets just hope we strengthen in the right areas this summer oh and one more thing I hear many say 'we need a few proven experienced guys etc' well that does not always work in our budget eg) big dan anyone?
Bankier bhoy aka canadian pete

Believable4 Unbelievable4

15 Apr 2012 22:53:38
To all the little bears out their we don't do backing down. We are going to back Lenny always. He sorted Dougie Mc Donald and Hugh Dallas now to sort the rest out. It's over rankers. Yous cheated with your unpaid tax money got away with it for years but no more. Sections of your fans tried death threats, bullets in post and bombs. Lenny didn't back down. Lenny won't back down because he knows he has millions backing him. It's time to cut the crap out of scottish football. No more second class citizens for Celtic fans. Equal rights for everyone. In Lenny We Trust. Bigirishmac

Believable6 Unbelievable10

Oh please please keep lennon .....trueblue.

Agree0 Disagree0

Barca and real madrid must be keckin thereself!!!!.eh.well done lenny for embarrisin yourself once again.knighthood for euan norris anyone.watp

Agree0 Disagree0

Well not all your fans are proud of lennons actions... Alot are starting to get sick of it! They dont want a manager who blames someone else for the bad decisions? I lijed thompsons answer to the offaide go... "we were fortunate" yet when hearts score after a double hndball ita bk to conspiracies

Agree0 Disagree0

Why are you dragging Rangers into yer midden?

Your managers a joke, your teams a joke......bottle every big game...FACT!!!

Worry about yer own mess........we have more than enough on our plate just now with the administration et al but your lot just keep blaming everyone else bar the real source........THE RUBBISH TEAM AND IDIOT MANAGER!!!!!!!

Ps.........tie lennon up on a 20 year deal.......he is hilarious!!!

Agree0 Disagree0

I take it you're talking about money when you refer to 'millions backing him', or are you referring to the loyal fans who disguised themselves as empty seats one week after clinching the title.....

Agree0 Disagree0

Reply to the above comment Neil Lennon brings a lot of the trouble to his own doorstep a lot of the reasons being said is because he is catholic and from N Ireland thats rubbish did Martin O'Neil get that sort of abuse, no he got the usual you would expect from being a manager of one of the old firm the difference is O'Neil did his talking on the pitch were he earned respect from both sides Lennons just a complete muppet in my books

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 22:46:58
Is anybody else getting fed up and embarrassed by Lennys antics? I dont recall him ever accepting a defeat in good grace. It was never a penalty to Hearts but our equaliser was offside. some go for you, some go against you. He needs to have a look at himself and ask why he only played one up front in a cup semi final.
Kevbhoy

Believable13 Unbelievable9

Aye he only went and win the proxy wee league title in his 2nd year as manager ,maybe would have won a Double in his first if RFC hadnt stole jellyfish from Rapid .. Some ppl have very short memories ...TTTS

Agree0 Disagree0

No just you kevbhoy you should be ashamed of yourself you are the embarresment you should never be allowed back near paradise.....kbarry

Agree0 Disagree0

Your arse. Don't be coming on here telling celtic fans they shouldn't be allowed in paradise you pair of d@*ks. He is allowed his opinion. I don't 100 percent agree with his view but behave yourselfs. I was there swell today and I'm raging with our performance. We all know it wasn't a pen, but hooper was offside and how many f@*kin chances do we need. Ki twice, stokes 2 yards out. And Kelvin Wilson was pathetic out there today i hate saying that about a celtic player but he was awful. from minute one he unnerved our defence. I LOVE wee lenny to bits but i was a bit embarrassed by that today. Why not be angry at the players, take it out on them. I felt let down by them today, was gutted at full time. AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO TELL ME I SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED BACK AT PARADISE WHY DONT YOU SAY IT TO MY FACE AT THE OLD FIRM GAME. North Stand 106 Shuggy67

Agree0 Disagree0

I'm pleased some Celtic fans feel this way as i said this weeks ago and got slaughtered for it. So i'll say no more i think lennon will convince u all in time that he needs help in managing his behavior.

Agree0 Disagree0

Well said Shuggy67, ur what i call a supporter, u see things as there are, totally agree with everything that u said.

Agree0 Disagree0

Shuggy Since there was only 2 other post ,I assume I'm one of the d@*ks you speak off ?.
Read my post ,did I suggest anyone stays away from Paradise ,nor indeed would I .Kev bhoy is entitle to his opinion and I am entitle to mine ,which I made with out insulting him in anyway .
I can indeed understand your position and your dissapointment ,we all as Celtic fans were dissapointed and we all react in different ways.
I honestly believe that we have a got few great years ahead of us if we can just put up with the teething problems that will come with a young passionate manager and a young team.
Sit tight in your seat at Paradise Shuggy and enjoy and I'm pretty sure no real Celtic fan will tell you not to come back.....TTTS

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 22:38:13
The officials today were shocking, the ref had at least 6 terrible decisions (both sides)and the linesman on the main stand side never got an offside decision correct all day (both sides) NL should start highlighting all these mistakes rather than focus only on the mistakes against Celtic when thy lose. If he came out and slated refs after a victory when a decision went for us(rangers/hearts games when balls crossed line) he would maybe gain support from others. Granted we seem to get more big decisions against us, but it's because the standard of refereeing is at an all time low- despite these guys getting an inflation busting pay rise. For those saying the bad decisions even themselves up over the course of a season..... Be it penalties, sending offs, offsides etc. the number of decisions may well end up the same for each team however the timings of each decision vary greatly. A penalty when you are winning 4-0 is very different to a penalty at 0-0, a man sent off at 0-0 is very different to a man getting sent off at 3-0, offsides-crucial bookings to miss big games etc.

Jd

Believable8 Unbelievable2

Shut up you silly little man ......trueblue.

Agree0 Disagree0

Always cheated, never defeated......plus...what he said ^^^^^


LOL

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 22:32:29
Just suffered the lowlights of the game and how anyone can say hearts deserved it is beyond me.How on earth a ref can give a penalty against ledley or wanyama is ridiculous.Back turned,and a ball blasted from two yards on a shot that was heading nowhere.But by far the worst was the booking for black.Big vic,straight red no contact at ipox.Black well over the top and contact,yellow card! Consistency thats all. And i hope Beattie remembers all the wages Celtic paid him during his numerous injury lay offs,nice touch eh............green jhedi

Believable7 Unbelievable4

"I hope Beattie remembers all the wages", that's just embarassing!! Did u expect him to smack it over the bar for old times sake?? At the end of the day, you had the chances to win the game regardless of what Hearts did and failed to take them - SIMPLE!!
Also, dont forget, Hooper was offside for your goal..............

Agree0 Disagree0

For me everyone is going on about the pen. but how black stays on park after
his tackle he handles the ball intentionally
yet stays on the park.

Agree0 Disagree0

@first post; not miss it,but was there any need for the stupid celebration?.........green jhedi

Agree0 Disagree0

Well he scored a crucial goal how would you expect him to react most players would react like that get a life

Agree0 Disagree0

For me the worst decision of the game was to award hoopers goal when he is offside but as thompson said it was "fortunate" but when hearts score a penalty after a double handball its a "peraonal" attack on lennon

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 22:10:31
Cheers aswell Tim(and any other Celtic fan I might have missed) Liverpool and Celtic certainly share a lot in common and there is a great bond between the fans(and us with Rangers fans to be fair). Every year in the last home game before Hillsborough Celtics badge sits on the Kop next to Liverpools after the game at Parkhead in 89 which symbolises the real meanings of YNWA. Its a sad day for all LFC fans and we will hopefully teach Chelsea a lesson in the final, I'm looking forwards to meeting them cowards at the ground.
JFT96
Smithy

Believable9 Unbelievable2

15 Apr 2012 21:46:30
Yet again, inconsistency costs us big time, if anyone is critical of Lennon challenging decision then they can go to f@&! Ferguson does it every week and keevins and co still wet themselves at the thought of him. Double standards, penalty decisions have cost us a treble, least we only do "paying our way" thoughts to those sadly taken at hillsborough YNWA "newbhoy"

Believable9 Unbelievable7

Blame the officials - as usual!! Lennon's team selection was questionable to say the least. Samaras is already saving himself for the euros and hooper's looking for a move

Agree0 Disagree0

We have to look rationally at what is causing us to not quite get there on the bigger occasions. Getting upset or angry isntgoing to solve the problem. It is our job as supporters to look at the problem on the pitch and logically work out how to fix this. I am sure the management are doing this right now, but we need to help too. Blaming the referee is not going to help us in the big games in europe. Solving and improving our tactics and team selection is the only way for us too become a better team. Iwas annoyed at the ref too but looking at it again after i had time too reflect i can see there were two game changing mistakes our goal was offside and the ball hit ledleys arm not the other way around. I genuinly think nl needs tp calm down before he tweets.this could be a long ban for him which dosnt help the team or us the supporters

Agree0 Disagree0

Penalty decisions cost you the treble? No. Inconsistant players cost you the treble, struggling against killie then going on to hammer them 6-0 weeks later, similar incident last season... hammer st mirren one week, lost againt them the next week.

As for the game yesterday, why arent you slaughtering the referee and his team for awarding celtic an offside goal with only minutes remaining? or was it "fortunate" as your assistant manager claimed

Agree0 Disagree0

What about that animal Ian Blacks tackle he never got sent off for, or his deliberate hand ball that he never got his 2nd yellow for?

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 21:13:17
Just like to extens that thanks to Green Jhedi too, just seen your post on here and the LFC site, you have helped prove to me that there are still decent people on the footy sites so thanks for that. Unlucky on your defeat today, didn't see the majority of it as I was at the memorial but I've seen the highlights, and the officials got a lot wrong. Keep your heads up though everybody.
JFT96
Smithy

Believable9 Unbelievable6

15 Apr 2012 21:09:23
Matt Mc Glone on twitter has said that NLs apperance on thursday for tunnel incident will"be more explosive than Dougiegate" and CFC have evidence that could "implode on the sfa in a major fashion" .... Cant wait ....TTTS

Believable10 Unbelievable8

Sorry I didn't understand the post what is Neil Lennon appearing on, what is Thursday for tunnel incident

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 21:08:44
what all this about Lennon's behaviour? ya ok he ran out to see the ref and let him know his opinion for the last ref wouldnt lisen to him after the game but do people forget about tha. it wasnt anything bad. ya he was angry but can you blame him? after the horrible pen which he didnt see and gave it to the wrong guy even though i didnt see the ball touch wanyama and not given a pen to us which is the same thipen he gave to hearts. and Ledley was lucky not to get a broken leg, which it was only a yellow. video and pics dont lie and there were alot of evidence out there that shows bias against Celtic. mistakes are on thing and human naturw but giving somthing you never saw and then not call the same call seconds later is just out to make a certain team win.

Believable10 Unbelievable9

Have you watched the replays yet? where you see it hit ledleys arm then wanyama's?

Really don't know why you lot can moan about the penalty decision when you got an offside goal just before it

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 21:02:39
The Hearts supporter who made the banner up about Stan Petrov should be found and shamed. Just goes to show they are the SCUM from the east. C'mon the Hibees in the final.

Daz the Hoopy

Believable14 Unbelievable6

Yes, completely agree. And I doubt much will be said on it. Just imagine it had been Celtic or, for that matter, rangers with a banner like that. When will it be acknowleged that other SPL clubs aren't lovely wee family clubs where everyone's great and there's halo's all round.

Agree0 Disagree0

Rangers fan here don't know what your talking about mate as i never watched the game (obviously) but these scumbags should be named and shamed stick their mugs front page of the papers

Agree0 Disagree0

Although the banner was a disgrace I'm glad to see that people are accepting it was Hearts fans who made it. A Celtic mate of mine commented on the pic on facebook but the guy who posted the link claimed it was Rangers fans who made it!
Disgusting banner no matter who made it. All the best to Petrov
GCUK

Agree0 Disagree0

The banner never got in. i dont know many rangers fans who would sink that low. hearts are just bitter cause they're team are a poor imitation of rangers.

Mon the hibbies for the final

Agree0 Disagree0

To the last poster - I'm also a bluenose and I think that anyone who made or held up such a banner doesn't even deserve recognition but plenty condemnation. Stan Petrov was a great player who did us a few times - hopefully he will pull through his illness and do a few other teams.

Agree0 Disagree0

Some hearts fans are just as every bit as vile wonder if the sfa will do anything

Agree0 Disagree0

Of course the SFA won't do anything they're as anti celtic as the rest,

Agree0 Disagree0

Don't know if the sfa cando anything if the banner didnt make it into the stadium?

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 20:17:14
I found a video on Youtube today. Maybe Mr Lennon should watch this and realise what is acceptable behaviour for a manager. Rangers and any Slug McCoist fans might want to look away :-)

Dear dear Walter.......how classless and undignified.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7nViAiKWeI

Believable12 Unbelievable8

Walter looses it on one occassion, sent to the stand, and angry at the end of a game, in neil lennons short time as celtic manager he has had a 4 match ban and an 8match ban for his shocking antics, charged three times in a week, and didnt do himself any favours by running towards the referee and full time today!

Agree0 Disagree0

2 guys who want to win ,dont have a problem with it myself, but the original poster makes a good point,how come walter is seen as a gent and Lenny is villified. Both show the same type of response when under pressure

Agree0 Disagree0

I wish big mixu had pushed the old prik to the floor also what about the time he man handled conor salmon from the touchline while the player was trying to play his game....kbarry

Agree0 Disagree0

Is this all you septic fans can do ok walter lost it once but from everytime i remember septic getting beat lennon loses it walter and lennon are 2 diff guys complety lennon will never be half the man walter is and lennon could have atleast shaved for the sc semi final he is a disgrace to football and he needs to have a long hard think about himself total disgrace

Agree0 Disagree0

Well at least Mr Lennon hasn't stolen money from his own fans and the public purse by illegal use of EBTs. I would rather have 10 Mr Lennons who are truthful and honest than some lying, cheating bully like Smith or a smarmy, two-faced vile slug like McCoist at my team. In Lennon We Trust. Don't trust Smith or his pet Slug with anything, even money. All Smith is is a very poor imitation of Fergie and all the Fat Slug is, is a very poor imitation of a football manager and human being. The slug is lower than a daschunds bollocks.

Agree0 Disagree0

To the above post.... Thanks for the laugh. You would rather have Lennon than smith? Brilliant!! If you look on this forum there are quite a few celtics fans who are fedup with Lennon. Even some of his own fans have criticised him for the way he behaved yesterday and his team selections. Lennon will never achieve half of what Smith done.
I'm glad you trust in Lennon as a rangers fan I hope he stays!! {Ed007's Note - One thing he NL will never achieve is the same level of bank balance as WS did......but ssshhhhhh don't tell the taxman.}

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 19:53:17
Just like to thank artyboy for his kind words about Hillsborough on the LFC site, I was at the memorial service today and go every year and its always an emotional day. Just seen Mrs.E's comment aswell, its appreciated by us all. It really is a shame the Chelsea "fans" couldn't show your class, absaloute scum.
JFT96
Smithy

Believable8 Unbelievable3

I seen the first few minutes of that game and some fans didn't respect the minutes silence...terrible. There are no words. Mrs E

Agree0 Disagree0

Smithy hope your team beat Chelsea in cup final, it will be good to hear YNWA being belted out at Wembley. Hope today was not too emotional for you, Celtic - Liverpool a bond unites both club and supporters Timalloy

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 19:36:00
no hiding the dissapointment today but yet again bad luck bad decisions and some players not turning up cost us dear , overall the season has been a sucess with the league won and the chance of cl football again but i think we are now at a crossroads with the choice being status quo or invest serious money, first option being bosmans and young untried players and hope they come good or buy 2-3 experienced quality players with a proven track record , we wait and see what will happen ,,, deep river bhoy

Believable2 Unbelievable4

The manager needs to take the blame for the way the team was set up and substitutions. Wilson shouldnae get a sniff of the first team from now on.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 18:59:39
Joe Ledley just after scoring for Chelsea oh wait sorry it's Drogba. Could of sore it was ledley Bigirishmac

Believable5 Unbelievable5

15 Apr 2012 18:59:06
For the life of me I cannot understand why we Celtic fans are blaming ref
for the penalty award after all it is as clear as day that Wanyama and Ledley could be TWINS......Timalloy

Believable6 Unbelievable4

15 Apr 2012 18:16:56
hi ed was just wondering do you think we will see the boy ibrahim before the end of the season {Ed007's Note - I am hoping so, I think it is about getting him ready for the physical side of our game just now.}

Believable4 Unbelievable1

15 Apr 2012 18:38:09
lenny should sit big forester down tell him 2 sign the deal now,if he doesnt want to commit himself 2 the hoops i'd bring back big boruc in a heartbeat.

Believable11 Unbelievable6

Agree...celtic and mostly lennon has faith in him and has given him 2 years to show his talent while newcastle has no faith in him. time to get hard on the players to see who rly wants to be here and prepare for CL

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 18:30:02
Will the SFA be investigating us by fielding 2 unregistrered players today Victor Ledley and Joe Wanyama?

Lubo25

Believable10 Unbelievable4

Any other time thats funny lubo.in the concept of scottish fitba it,s tragic.no wonder they dont want ref's talking post match........green jhedi

Agree0 Disagree0

Norris is a turkey He certainly needs to go to a decent optician as he cant tell the difference between various races. He needs to get treated the same way as Charlie Richmond or is he in the Clique. CM

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 18:24:17
i see todays ref is saying the penalty wasnt against ledley for handball but for the handball by wanyama...well i personally feel that the ref has veiwed the incident after the game ans realised hes made a b**lls up of it and is now using wanyamas hand ball as his excuse...either way in both cases niether 1 was worthy of a penalty,there was absolutley no way there was any intent from either of the 2 players 2 deliberately block the ball. i dont always agree with the way lenny handles decisions that go against us but todays penalty decision wea an absolute disgrace,u would think the ref in this instance would have the bottle 2 come out,put his hands up and say"ive got that wrong,sorry" absolute joke!

Believable7 Unbelievable3

Celtic should sent a written complaint to the SFA demanding a replay as they appointed a blind referree to officiate at Hampden today Anyone agree?

Agree0 Disagree0

And at the same time the linesman should come and put his hands up that he screwed up for not flagging hooper offside at celtics goal,no? Hoppers goal shouldn't have stood it wasn't a penalty so game would have finished 1-0. The reason Celtic didn't win was down to the players. Why was hooper coming so deep to get the ball all the time? At one point commons crossed the ball from near the byline and samaras and hooper were 40yards outside the box!! Today was not the refs fault.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 17:56:52
Here is my list of players to get rid of this summer

Commons
Ki
Cha
M.wilson
K.wilson
Loovens
Juarez
McCourt
O dea

If a 5m+ bid came in for hooper I'd take it
Conor67

Believable13 Unbelievable6

I agree apart from Mark Wilson and Paddy McCourt. CM

Agree0 Disagree0

Oh dear a list after we get beat . didnt see one last sunday.

Agree0 Disagree0

I think the list is fair enough. Lenny has already said we need to trim the squad so the guy is only offering an opinion as to who it'd be. This frees up money for the 2 or 3 quality players we need if we're to move forward. A good season but not a great one and flaws still evident. Id agree but would keep Commons unless a good offer waas made. I thhnk he can still play his part.

Agree0 Disagree0

Would take 7mil + for hooper and 6mil + for ki

as long as we invested it on experienced players t

Agree0 Disagree0

I agree apart from Commons and K.Wilson bcos i dont feel like they have had enough time this season and if the right offer came in for Hooper i'd take it.

St Mikey

Agree0 Disagree0

Commons was our best player today, too good for the rest im afraid. As for K.Wilson, please get rid of this bombscare.

Joeshmo1888

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 17:43:01
Talk about mixed emotions eh !

Still delighted to be champions and let's be honest that's what we set out to do at the start of the season so well done on that front to everyone.

On the other side why do we end up gutted every time we get a major game (exc Motherwell last year) we have fell at nearly every one. Come Hampden games we are nothing short of shocking and the same has to be said for the majority of old firm games.

I get the "we're a young team, we're still learning" comments but for goodness sake (polite way to say it). We're playing Kilmarnocks and Hearts of this world. A team full of internationals who have won the league should be wiping the floor with this lot and i really feel we could have done something special this year. Unfortunately the truth is we are still some way short of a quality team

We need to ship out the fringe players and even one or two starters who simply disappear when we need them most. Get in a few players to improve the squad, experienced decent players not Johnny Russells and such like. We have too many of the squad / future players.

Get some quality in please.

PS i have always backed Lennon but he really does have to stop with the referee thing. YES the penalty was the wrong call, no doubt about it but if we had turned up and been as committed as Hearts it wouldn't have come down to one or two bad decisions

Gary

Believable8 Unbelievable2

I think today goes to show we REALLY need a top Centre half before even thinking of doing anything in europe when a dud like beattie can boss our backline not to mention what happened at Greyskull with McCulloch.
Lovvens is hopless K Wilson is not the answer come on we have had this problem for abot 2-3 years there must be good defenders out there come on get it sorted lenny.
IN LENNON WE TRUST

Agree0 Disagree0

Lennons had 2 plus years and still hasnt sorted out the centre half position. In Lennon I dont trust - the jury is still out and he needs to stop acting like a wee ned when decisions stop going his way.

Agree0 Disagree0

Big chance missed to do the thribel this season dont think this chance will cum again in a hurry would oneil or straken have blown this sort of chance

Agree0 Disagree0

Christ guys,weve not had things sorted at the back since big johan and joos

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 17:30:51
tought mcgeough had a good game when he came on

ed do you think juarez would get a chance to put him in shop window {Ed007's Note - I doubt we will see Juarez play again, although stranger things have happened.}

Believable4 Unbelievable2

ED007 I seem to remember you saying the same about commons but he is back now. Don't think I am having a pop at you 'cos I know you have far more inside knowlage than I ever will ( not being sarcastic ) but, IMO, Juarez could do a job for us, I would rate him higher that Ki

JGD {Ed007's Note - I just think that Juarez will be leaving in the summer, possibly back to Mexico where he is well known. I would actually like to see him get another run in the team to see how it goes. I fully expect Commons to move on in the summer.}

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 17:10:38
Forster or boruc

Boruc is out of contract in the summer & Forster isnt for signing by the looks of things.

So givin the choice which one ?

Lenny

Believable5 Unbelievable3

Boruc!!

Agree0 Disagree0

Boruc by a mile

Agree0 Disagree0

Boruc by miles and miles.

Agree0 Disagree0

Still love the HOLY GOALIE. Gotta be him if he's got his appetite for it back (and no i don't mean eating because towards the end of his last stint he got a little tubby and lazy)

Gary

Agree0 Disagree0

Foster wants back south let him he isnt even in the same league as the holy goalie

Agree0 Disagree0

Big Artur

Agree0 Disagree0

If big Fraser doesn't sign then this was a wasted 2 seasons for Celtic. We've put up with below average performances from him for almost a season and a half and it's only the last 4-5mnths he's began to show his worth. To put up with that and get nothing back financially is a disgrace. If Boruc doesn't come back then we're starting CL football with a new goalkeeper who doesn't know the team and hopefully a new centre half... not really what you want!

Agree0 Disagree0

Boruc wanted to leave ,if u love the team and club so much you stay . Time moves on Boruc is history big Fraser is the future ......DH

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:58:40
Joe ledley just tweeted a pic of blacks tackle on him...and it's a feckn disgrace.nothing made of it on tv coverage though............green jhedi

Believable10 Unbelievable4

Sour grapes.....your team were beat fair and square, if your goal hadnt counted the penalty might never have happened, but if your team had stopped thinking about the halftime refreshments and remembered they were in a cup semi final hearts might never have scored and you might have won.....but you never so get over yourselves better strategy by the hearts manager, lennon should have had wanyama on from the start because loovens is a liability as is kelvin wilson hopeless....

Tam-Sir 1873 just get on with it you won the league dont just think you deserve the treble you had to earn it and you didnt..

Agree0 Disagree0

@tamsir; i never mentioned the game did i? only said the tackle was a shocker,which it was.rangers till july.bye bye

Agree0 Disagree0

I don't think its sour grapes to point out the challenge was not only shocking but malicious. Black has history on this and did similar to Jelavic. If you care to watch again you will see it wasnt an attempt to get the ball but a stamp after the fact. Ledley's leg is a mess - it could@ve been worse! I wonder if the video planel will take a look. I certainly don't think he deserves to play in the final and that has NOTHING to do with the result, just a matter of decency.

Agree0 Disagree0

I know Blacks a dirty player and believe me he did a lot worse to jelavic, but thats the reason he plays for hearts and not a bigger team because the lad is a good midfielder but his actions let him down and if the ref reports him for it he will receive the punishment from Lummy the same as Ki should get for his dive its only fair...

Tam-Sir 1873 Agrees it was malicious and same old Black..

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:57:50
The only thing good about todays result was lenny will obviously have to open his eyes and see who isnt good enough. Ki commons wilson must go! Get what maybe 6-7 mil if lucky. Next year we will be looking at a team to dominate and 100% trust lenny has seen this today.

Ed what do you think of the story where artur is saying he would like to come back. You think is there any truth in it? Not that forster hasnt been good but lets be honest here he is no ARTUR BORUC

Kieran1888 {Ed007's Note - I think it's true that he said he would consider coming back.}

Believable6 Unbelievable4

Are you joking? commons was great today and a couple of times took the game himself {Ed007's Note - He does need to prove his fitness to any potential buyers.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Aye mate one game but great? i dont think so. Last time i saw commons playing great was last season and having the choice i would honestly pick mcgeouch over him anyday of the week. We have been carrying passengers to long in this squad now.. Fact!

Agree0 Disagree0

As much as I loved the holy goalie he chose to go. I also think you are being very hard on Forster. He has been sensational for us.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:51:56
The centre back partnership (or lack of) is affecting the balance of the whole side. I think we rely too much on Mulgrews attacking ability - therefore he needs to play left-back to get forward and supply instead of centre back. I would always play him at centre back with Izzy giving width and pace from the left. Big Wanyama would be first name on my team sheet but the midfielders are all quite similar - we need a centre back and real attacking quality from midfield. We can be very slow and predictable - especially at Hampden for some reason. kbt1978

Believable2 Unbelievable1

Best comment I've read so far... people calling for the head of commons when they fail to realise he is the best playmaker we have. Lennon has too many holding midfielders/workers. As great as he was as a player, if we had 4 Lennons in midfield we'd never have reached the heights we did. IMO Ledley, Brown, Kayal, Wanyama are the best 4 midfielders we have but none of them are known for there creativity.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:36:41
Well i was at the game today and a wee bit gutted, but when i get up in the morning and i look at my champions 2012 flag i will have a smile on my face again and today will all be forgotten,but when the rankers wake up they will still have hee haw to smile about and there troubles will not be forgotten.
pmttid..(pay my taxes till i die)..

Believable7 Unbelievable14

15 Apr 2012 16:33:47
Noticing Lenny getting lots of doubters here and on radio.Yes, questions must be asked, and the answers have to be good cos this is a sore one.But regardless of formations and tactics,the team put out today should beat hearts.I just hope lenny is not falling into the trap of playing players he rates regardless of form.Rogne(injured?) was missed for me as he's been our best centre back all season,Why start playing loovens now as he will surely be off in the summer.Wilson was terrible all day and i would have hooked him at half time for big vic.If izzy could make the bench he should have started.The shape we used in udinese would murder teams in this country but we never use it why? I also think you must always have Paddy on the bench,tight games need a maverick.The season,s over so lets see the new boys in every game.next game? Paddy,mcgeough,frazer,blackman,brozek,ibrihim izzy, all must start.Kayal back soon can be slipped in but the rest can go on holiday...........green jhedi

Believable6 Unbelievable3

Well said and totally agree with that. Think we have a star in the making there with mcgeough. I really dont understand the situation with brozek. Why bring the boy in if cant make the bench? izzy looks like he could be away in the summer for me i think lenny planning to sell cause been back a long time and not playing, definately isnt injured cause plays friendly games. Play the u19s defence next game. at least they wil be up for it

Agree0 Disagree0

And Matthews had a 'mouth infection' ? I though Rogne was fit again as well. Consistency with team selection for me is the biggest issue. Mrs E {Ed007's Note - Matthews has mumps I think Mrs.}

Agree0 Disagree0

I just seen on the STV website it was a mouth infection which I thought was strange. Mumps..oh dear. Hope he gets well soon he's one of my faves. Mrs E

Agree0 Disagree0

Agreed! Too many players we can't call squad players cos they're not part of the first team squad. The bhoys Brozek, Blackman and Paddy look average but has had less chances than they've had less chances than the "below average" Loovens,Lustig, Wilsons etc.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:28:38
Ref just stated that he thought victor Wanyama handle the ball. He didn't even see Joe ledley. What a joke. The Swedish guy is crap. Hit the post twice and ball cleared of the line just wasnt our day. Ref is shocking. Celtic Champions that's all that's matters. Bigirishmac

Believable7 Unbelievable8

Swedish guy was crap ? were we watching the same game

Agree0 Disagree0

I can see the refs point.Ledley & Wanyama are almost identical!1

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:23:58
Not posted anything for a while but thought I would just put this out there:

Just back from the game and, IMO, I thought NL got his team selection all wrong. Wanyama should have started befoe Ki and Stokes should have been in a striking berth before Sammi. NL said midway through the season that Sammi could get him the sack and if he continues with this blind faith in him I fear it just may well do.

Lets not point at mistakes made by the ref as we should be able to beat this team with not to much trouble. NL MUST look long and hard at himself and his backroom team and ask if they are giving him the correct backing or are they just yes men?

JGD

Believable8 Unbelievable6

Lets not look at refs, your right, but the fact is the ref was invovled for he no matter what people say. we cant always win...we hit 2 post and thier keeper made good saves, yes we should have won but what if there was never a pen and it went to extra time?or if ref showed red to first the hand ball for 2nd yellow and for studs up on ledley? if no pen in finaly seconds then Celtic had the momentum going into extra time. yes changes should have happened sooner but i think you need to have ahard look at yourself and see how good we play/chance we make when we are not at our best

Agree0 Disagree0

I still think you are making excuses for NL deficiencies. I agree with your points about how decisions change games but, IMO, the starting line up was all wrong and the changes made were wrong, again this is just my opinion and I think that this is a wonderful platform for us all to have an opinion

JGD

Agree0 Disagree0

We're all wise after the event. Stokes started ahead of Sami in the Cup final and apparently that was wrong. Now the opposite is the case. As it happens we played better today than in the semi and were certainly a bit unlucky. The truth is though we do have some flaws which will need to be resolved in the summer. They are not new to the support or the manager. A powerful centre forward, an number 10, and a dominating centre half are required. Otherwise we're not far away. Its easy saying this, the difficulty for NL will be recruiting them on a budget.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:18:36
I know hindsight is a great thing but Wanyama should have been playing in the middle with Mulgrew and Izzy should have started. Why oh why does Lenny always drop Stokes for games like this? We should always play the wee man, he scores goals against smaller teams for fun.

Believable6 Unbelievable4

He played stokes for final and he was rubbish just as the rest of the team was that day

and people complained that samaras should have played

make up you mind

lennon can only choose 11 players and not everyone can get a game every game

Agree0 Disagree0

Stokes played the cup final and was rotten

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:17:40
Apologies ED007 in advance for this long post (Evinguu you have competition) ED007 I know you keep saying we only have poor refs not corrupt refs, but adly after today everyone at Celtic must now stand up for fair play.
league cup final- no penalty
Rangers game two off and no title party at Ibrox, ref gets well done from SFA
todays game not a penalty but ref almost wet himself giving it...

I honestly believe because of bother RFC (IA) are in SFA, SPL and refs are conspiring to make blow easier on the establishment team..

I now want Lennon and Lawwell and even our owner to now register a
protest with SFA/SPL over the cheating (and yes I believe refs are
cheating Celtic) I also now want strong leadership about these new
rule changes, it is time Celtic's voice was heard and a powerful voice it
should be...

And before I am accused of sour grapes after a defeat I hope Lennon
now realises that some of these players are not good enough for Celtic. K Wilson, Loovens, Samaras Ki, Commons must all be replaced.

Sammy is Sammy just too inconsistent
Wilson/Loovens not good enough
Commons not interested,
Ki not strong enough when game gets physical.

Also Lennon himself must look at his team selections and tactics. Today
we knew it would be physical so why leave Wanyama on bench?
ED007 I would be interested in your honest opinions! Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I still don't buy into the whole cheating referees Tim. I would back any club that challenged their competence though. I would agree with you about those players but I would like to see Samaras gave another year to see if he can show consistency. He has came on leaps and bounds this year so might be worth another chance. I am surprised by how poor Kelvin Wilson has been, he was highly rated in the Championship. What NL needs to do is decide his best eleven and play them every week, barring injuries or a drop in form of course. At times he seems to make changes to the starting line-up that don't need to be made. I would start with this (as of players here just now and all fit.

........................Forster....
Matthews.....Rogne........Ledley.......Izaguirre.....
........................Wanyama..........
...........Forrest......Brown..........Ledley....
...............Hooper...........Stokes....

With two attacking full-backs we can have Wanyama protecting the back four, Ledley ans Forrest can both get forward (and go wide) with Brown anchoring the MF

Believable5 Unbelievable10

Agree 100% with Ed response. Sopot Celt {Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Scottish referees are sub standard.
Its embarresing that millions over the world were watching these games experiencing this.

Agree0 Disagree0

Why is ledley on it twice {Ed007's Note - Ooops My mistake, it should have been Mulgrew in defence lol.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Its sad that fan like the poster really believe refs are out to get them. Had your team went on to win off the back of the offside goal woukd you demand celtic challenge the sfa about cheating? Im collegues with former spl linesman tommy johnstone - a die hard celtic fan - who loses the plot when his fellow celts accuse his former collegues of cheating

Agree0 Disagree0

I'm sure we would be better with 12 men on the park haha. Just can't see the officials allowing it

Agree0 Disagree0

ED007, I agree with most of your team selection, but question must be asked about Iziguire's fitness and mental attitude. I hope Lennon has a clearout and moves on at least 7 or 8 players, we all know who they are. As for Sammy? and Rogne seems injury prone. I also think someone needs to sit Lennon down and tell him that too many changes are as harmful as too little. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I was just using players available to the club mate, a basic strongest starting 11.}

Agree0 Disagree0

I'm surprised by the omission of Kayal. I'd also give Sami another year as you say and feel he's been good of late. I wouldnt stick with the front two - we need something different which probably would leave stokes making way. Powerful centre half also required.

Agree0 Disagree0

The original poster seems to give a very balanced point of view. He has a chip on both shoulders.Surely at some point the team has to be blamed for a defeat and not always the officials.

Agree0 Disagree0

Thats what happens with to big a squad. cant keep all players happy. do we think that players on good wages will just go. lennon has cost us a large amount of wages and i cant blame him because he had to stop Rangers for 4 in a row. what would have happend if they had money to spend and not in the mess they are in.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:16:08
Ffs.refs just came out and said he thought the ball hit WANYAMAS HAND.artybhoy

Believable4 Unbelievable3

Total joke. Can I read it anywhere? Gown can you "think" it touched a hand and give a pen. Thought it had to be deliberate? How can you confuse wanyama and ledley

Agree0 Disagree0

Who cares, we should be winning this game without the need to whine about refs. Lets not deflect from poor decisions from NL. I agree that the refes decisions were shocking but if out strongest 11 started and played to their potential we would have won

JGD

Agree0 Disagree0

I seen this on ledleys twitter

Agree0 Disagree0

Also your goal was offside...oops you missed that...

Tam-Sir 1873 Take it on the chin it was Hearts day...

Agree0 Disagree0

Agreed should be good enough! But it's to often!

Agree0 Disagree0

Hearts first goal was offside and another honest mistake to the collection and how is it possible to mistake wanyama for ledley and Black's tackle on ledley is a red card against any other team on the planet.

Agree0 Disagree0

Captain broonie is just as dirty as ian black mate, being honest, wasnt aware hearts first goal was offside

Agree0 Disagree0

The referee is CORRECT the ball DID hit Ledley's arm & it DID hit wanyama's hand

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 16:14:59
What kind of people are posting here, that match was all about another poor decision or as the SFA call it honest mistake but amazingly the ref never made the same honest mistake a few minutes later with Webster,how can anybody post on this page that it has anything to do with Neil Lennon, Hearts game plan was to sit in for the first half and play the game over 45 minutes instead of 90 and it nearly worked, Hearts had some chances as Celtic chased the game but I'm sure we would have taken them in extra time, this is not paranoia, that decision was as poor as they come , Lennie went with his strongest team subbed the guys not doing it , if you can't see that then don't call yourself a celtic support and blame the manager, what a disgrace you people are.

Believable9 Unbelievable7

15 Apr 2012 15:55:06
we really should start a campaigne no liquidated teams in spl ... we must make them start in the third because 10 points for two years is irrevelant bb {Ed007's Note - There are people looking into the legality of it.}

Believable7 Unbelievable9

Sounds like your scared incase rangers win the league when they start on minus 10 points.

Agree0 Disagree0

Love to go to 3rd leave uz all to squirm in the mire , no rangers no scottish football , lol we are rangers {Ed007's Note - Three different teams winning the trophies and none of them were Rangers paints a different picture.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Its the bloody refs we need to go into liquidation.hes just said to ledley he gave the pen for handball against wanyama?

Agree0 Disagree0

Really? Why start any campaigne against other teams? Lets just concentrate on our own as we have come short a couple of times this season. As ED007 points out the SPL isn't in that bad a state with them winning nothing

Agree0 Disagree0

As the Law stands no person or Company can be sentanced for the same crime twice. Hence comon sense, is not a element you have,but may be your desire! {Ed007's Note - But a football team can, if Rangers are still in administration at the start of next season they start on -10. That sounds like a two punishments for the one 'crime'.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Your team loses a treble and all you can talk about is Rangers going into 3rd div plus points reductions, iam a Rangers supporter and Ihope we do go to 3rd div , get a cva, pay our debts, let the teams in 3rd div make some money out our support ,see how all the hangers on in spl (excluding celtic in that) see how they cope without our away supporters.ps you need to cut neil lennon loose , he doesnt do himself any favours , a lot of youngsters look up to him .

Agree0 Disagree0

Pathetic

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:52:30
If Ki had put one of his sitters away and we had taken advantage of all the first half possession we would not be - once again - on here about dubious referees and controversial decisions.
We were a shadow of the team last week at Rugby Park and we have to ask why - once again - we had the Hamden Hoodoo and so many were not at their best - especially in front of goal.
Three big penalty decisions go against us in Cup deciders in the dying minutes cannot be just coincidence, can it?
It can put to bed the bleating claims that wee teams don't get the big decisions, but it surely highlights the glaringly obvious fact that Scottish referees are at least inconsistant and incompetent or perhaps some would suspect far worse?
NL could and should have achieved an historic treble this season and it takes the gloss off slightly on a fabulous SPL win and maybe these latest events might make him have a long hard think about what other hurdles are put in his way next season and who will blame him if he (and his family) fancies a break for the good of his health?

Jungle Jim

Believable5 Unbelievable7

15 Apr 2012 15:36:19
this game was all about ball to hand or hand to ball , fine , ok ledley ball to hand no penalty . webster ball to hand no penalty so 1-1 but there was one hand to ball and the linesman had a perfect view . black in the first half definitely hand to ball 2nd yellow off . lets adopt the saying always cheated never defeated , and be proud of it ,, because going by the rules of football we were cheated again today ,,,,,, come on the hibs , this is your year,,bb

Believable10 Unbelievable6

What about Celtic's offside goal?
YOU LOT ARE PARANOID

Bigbaloobear

Agree0 Disagree0

What about the offside hopper goal

Gers1986

Agree0 Disagree0

You lot are going into liquidation ,, whats worse ?????

Agree0 Disagree0

Hooper was offside to make it 1-1 , ki hit the woodwork twice , don't make excuses we've blown a treble , now a double and our manager it's talking himself up about wining old big ears , news flash we beat a very poor rangers to this years title and guess what we have still to qualify first through the qualifying rounds NL .... Angry Bhoy

Agree0 Disagree0

Offside by what 2 cm it is so close you cant even say its offside for hoopers front foot was not on the ground when the cross came in. funny how you say that it is offside when it is 60-40 on but the penalties you fail to see...paranoid yes becauae look at facts and you see the truth, what you say when ref gave you pen with back turned and didt see it but gave it right away to yous?

Agree0 Disagree0

2cm 2feet 2miles... Still offside. Or was that an honest mistake? And its any part of your body that can score for being offside

Agree0 Disagree0

What about black not getting sent off first haf? was already booked then deliberate hand ball, shud hav been a second booking

PaulyChuckles

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:34:16
Ok.so it shouldnt have been a penalty,but if we cant beat teams like hearts and killie at hampden, somethings seriously wrong.have to say, ki s misses were shocking, and wilson should never wear a hoops top again.guys a liability with no ability.and even though it dounds like sour grapes, bad ref again today.standard of refereeing in scotland is getting worse.congrats to hearts,but hope the hibees do them in the final.artybhoy

Believable9 Unbelievable2

I have defended KW on many occasions but he was dreadful today. No excuses and not good enough. Loovens well he did his usual, one good game in 6 so he is back to normal hopeless business. Tactics wrong, team selection wrong...

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:24:25
Who decides who gets man of the match on the celtic website, because they have coosenn Mikael Lustig........ Whoever it was must be steamin!

Believable6 Unbelievable2

He had a good game...he had some nice runs down the wing but ki kept going the other way and he had some good crosses. but there could have been others worthy

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:21:10
First of all I didn't think we were good enough today. Hoopers goal should not of stood. Hearts should not hot have had a pen and if that was suposed to be a pen why did we not get one. I love lenny but he does not do himself any favours running over to the ref the way he did. Is it another big game lenny has lost? regardless the way we lost the game. Also, has it been a successful season? And is lenny really the right man for the job?

Believable6 Unbelievable5

I agree Lenny has to stop this public anger,but that penalty was a hard one to take.Successful season,yes,but just. right man? i think he's learning like the team,next season will be his acid test though..........green jhedi

Agree0 Disagree0

No Lenny isn't the man for to the job, losing to many big games we seem to choke, we have champs league qualifiers coming up, can he get us through them , i think not, HAIL HAIL

Agree0 Disagree0

Tell ya sumet, if we come up against a half decent team in Europe... if we get there, we will get thumped!

Agree0 Disagree0

He is the man first off as he is always learning and has controled himself more then last season but still needs maybe more control. just like the team he has improved more this year so next should be even better, Lennon has turned this club around for the better and give him time and he and the club will continue moving forward. He can get us through champs league, for didnt you see our euopa league? we should have advanced if not for again contiversial call and an own goal. we were in the hardest group and held our own, just like in the spl, we will improve in europe and may shock a few.

Agree0 Disagree0

To any clown who is on here slagging lenny off away and support someone else cause you aint worth having. Lenny is in effect a Rookie manager who has rebuilt a team on a shoestring budget, Yet again a dubious referee has cost us the game. Take it like men,we got beat but for f***s sake get off Lennys back or get lost period

Dannybhoy

Agree0 Disagree0

Op that was a sensible post m8 and a true one.

Agree0 Disagree0

Well said Danny.

Agree0 Disagree0

It's happening too much , gordon strachan was on a shoestring budget but still done a fantastic job, Lenny must do better

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:03:32
How very disappointing that was.In my opinion i felt,overall,we deserved to win.This team also need to take a long hard look at themselves,the doubters will have a field day with this!Wilson,who looks like a player until he has to do his job,has lost me im afraid.Blew it at ipox,then could not be trusted there the next game,will never do.Sammi had one of his bad days,should that be it for him now? yes.over a season he does not justify a jersey.There have been mitigating factors,hoops and stokes stopped scoring at the wrong time,izzy and kayal have been missed.But if we are honest we have played one good game(killie) in four months.Lenny also has a strange habit of tinkering when it does not need it.The shape of the team in the first half was as bad as i have seen it,once again no pace,movement or invention.BUT.The decision for the penalty was nothing short of shocking.Ledley's arm is down,he's looking the other way,the guy blasts it at him from 2 yards and the ball is heading into row z.Hoops did look marginally off at the goal to be fair,but decisions like that happen every week.For a ref to award hearts that penalty was amazing.Two off the post,couple of good saves,and stokes missing a cert.Not our day Celts. Get ready for the bottlers tag,and till next season, we just have to take it on the chin.Makes you more grateful for proper footballing managers like Kenny Shiels though,cos hearts are bloody awful to watch!..........green jhedi

Believable5 Unbelievable4

If they are that bloody awful why arent we in the final then what does that make us.fed up with blameing ref and conspirices.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 15:02:02
Ki and Wilson have to go along with Loovens. Neil has to screw the nut
and keep away from Refs on the park. Craig Beatties over the top celebration was a bit much. CM

Believable12 Unbelievable4

Beattie put his team into a final what was he supposed to do.

Agree0 Disagree0

Why? He's a player who was dumped by us who had a massive point to prove!!

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 14:58:51
An other big game another big failure! If lennon persists with Ki and Kelvin Wilson we will continue to fail! P.s it was never a penalty we got zero from the ref today ffs we only got free kicks when the LINESMAN gave them!!

Believable8 Unbelievable6

Sami once again goes awol been the same since the game at castle greyskull he needs to be sold a dozen decent games a season aint good enough and for kelvin wilson he is a bigger bombscare that both big dan and loovens put together,

Agree0 Disagree0

You got an offside goal as well dont forget, Hearts wasn't a penalty and nor was Celtics with Webster, ki dived and tried to get a penalty. so u cant really complain

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 14:52:25
What the F... happened there? Why do we play at pedestrian pace at Hampden?The pitch seems to literally suck the energy out of our players. Yet again it was slipping away before we got going. And that was never a penalty. And Beattie? his celebrations today proved the rumours about him being a Rangers man true for me........................kbt1978

Believable9 Unbelievable4

Beattie is a rangers fan, always has been. Guy I work with is good pals wae him

Agree0 Disagree0

Once again it is someone elses fault cant you just admit you didnt play well

Agree0 Disagree0

Ffs does it matter who he supports , he put his team in a final, because he use to play with us doesnt mean he cant score against us , get a grip.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 14:45:58
What a disgrace i think Celtic as a protest at the obviously bias SFA should boycott the tournament next season!! We don't have to only beat the team infront of us but the officials as well. Cheated not defeated!!

Believable7 Unbelievable9

Typical response from Celtic, Hoopers goal offside but thats ok cause the manky mob got that decision

Agree0 Disagree0

You been on the Buckie pal, or did your guidedog tell you?

Agree0 Disagree0

I am a Rangers fan so I am obviously happy at the result. However, this is a typically blinkered old firm over reaction and we are just as bad for it as (some) Celtic supporters are. Celtic were not cheated today - look again OBJECTIVELY at the big talking points from the end of the game tomorrow. Once you have calmed down a bit and got over your understandable disappointment you may have an alternative view if you are being honest with yourself. Your manager may also regret his 'in the heat of the moment' reaction too once he watches the game again.

1. Hooper was at least a yard offside when he scored the equaliser - cheated, cheating, or a poor decision by the referee/linesman? Clearly not the first in relation to that point anyway and I personally don't think it was the second either as I am not a fan of conspiracy theories from EITHER side of the divide - a poor decision by the linesman, nothing more.

2. Hearts given a penalty after a clear handball. I have seen them given and I have seen them not given. It all depends on whether or not the referee views it as ball to hand or hand to ball. Ledley's arms were away from his body when the ball hit him and the shot was goal bound, which probably influenced his decision to give it despite the close proximity of the players. Cheated, cheating, or poor refereeing? Neither for me, it was technically the correct decision within the laws of the game but it is clearly open to personal interpretation and that is what makes, and keeps, football interesting. Always hurts more when it goes against your own team though (bit like Hearts fans reaction to Hooper's 'goal' no doubt).

3. Celtic penalty claim.The replays show that the ball hit Webster in the midriff then he cleared the ball. Cheated, cheating, or a poor refereeing decision? Neither once again, it didn't hit his arm, end of.

Putting my Rangers hat back on (and having a bit of banter) for a minute. There were clear dives by Ki and Wanyama (I know, Lafferty, yadayada - anyone who dives is cheating in my book and I will call it that and criticise them whether they play for my team or not) whose cheating could have influenced the outcome on another day but I doubt they will be mentioned alongside the 'cheating' referee who bought one and ignored the other or the biased SFA, etc. It was a good game to watch for neutrals no doubt and the referee, in the main, had a good game for me.

Genuine congratulations to finish off. Celtic have deserved to win the league this year and have consistently played the better football. All I have heard from Celtic fans since our sorry nonsense started is a combination of 'take your medicine' and 'pay your bills'. I happen to agree with them but fair is fair - you were given an offside goal, had a 'contestable' penalty given against you (how many have went in favour of the green or blue against the 'also rans' over the seasons?), and are screaming for a handball that never was. SFA and biased refereeing had nothing to do with result today, your team weren't good enough on the day. Take your own medicine, accept defeat gracefully and be happy and proud with how your club is run and what you have achieved this season (I wish I could be).

Brian {Ed007's Note - Thanks Brian. That is one of the best posts I have read from a Rangers fan. It makes a difference to the usual repetitive and childish one liners.}

Agree0 Disagree0

Cheated lol what about Ki diving for a penalty, is that not cheating, oh aye and an offside goal, get a grip ur true fans on here even agree that their team din't perform and ur mangers team selection was wrong.

Agree0 Disagree0

Thanks Ed007. That was my first post on this site. I regularly view the SPL and EPL pages (particularly around deadline day - although I seriously doubt that I will see much to cheer me up this summer), as well as the darts and wrestling ones (which are also great). I think you collectively provide an excellent forum for fans to express their views and moderate them very well, as I haven't read anything TOO over the top on here from either side. I really appreciate, despite the obvious differences in who we support, that you took the time to acknowledge and respect an opinion that you may not even agree with personally, or one that might not sit particularly well with the majority on this page. I am first and foremost a Scottish football fan and would like to see ALL of our teams progress and do well in Europe for example. I call things as I see them, but just like referees I am also aware that my opinion may not always necessarily be the correct one!

Brian

P.S. I won't be offended if you don't post this reply as all I mainly wanted to do was thank yourself and the other Ed's for doing a cracking job and operating a great site. {Ed007's Note - It's not often we get praise Brian so I'm posting this lol. And thanks.}

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 14:01:37
Surely Kelvin Wilson should never again kick a ball for Celtic! An absolute donkey!

Believable11 Unbelievable4

15 Apr 2012 12:52:58
Come On Celts! Big game, hard opponents at a ground where we we have had a few recent problems
Need to be UP for it Big Time.
PS: See Sly Spots have got the usual unbiased studio guests to tolerate as well as Davie -never really wanted to play for Celtic - Provan.

Jungle Jim

Believable5 Unbelievable5

15 Apr 2012 09:37:05
Hello ed, 1st time poster! Was at the game last week and gave the missus 1 simple task of recording the game but think she ws too busy drying her hair! Have u any links where i can watch the full game again? Chers {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site. Sorry I don't know anywhere to watch last week's match. Anyone else help?}

Believable0 Unbelievable0

Have whole thing recorded on skybox. any ideas on how to make copy onto usb and I'll gladly email to anyone who wants :)

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 12:02:34
todays team to face the jambos
Forster; Lustig, K. Wilson, Loovens, Mulgrew; Brown, Ki, Ledley, Commons; Samaras, Hooper
Subs: Zaluska, Izaguirre, Stokes, McGeouch, Wanyama


any idea ed whats wrong with mathews or cha for right back, not too sure about lustig but he needs game time. Is Rogne injured?

Believable1 Unbelievable1

15 Apr 2012 10:38:26
15 April 1989 - We Will Never Forget

Justice for the 96 is long overdue

You'll Never Walk Alone

Mrs E

Believable3 Unbelievable1

Never forget! They rest in peace.........green jhedi

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 10:17:43
anybody think we should go for the holy goalie if big fraser opts not to sign. personally i would like to see the big man stay. but if he opts out.(personally don`t think he will) i loved big artur when he was with us and if but if big fraser did opt out would it be a step backwards or do yous think we would be getting a more experienced keeper in artur. anybody any thoughts?kb-bhoy

Believable3 Unbelievable2

Boruc showed celtic no respect by losing 2 stone in weight after his transfer to italy why did he not feel overweight when playing for the hoops? i for one wouldnt welcome him back.

Agree0 Disagree0

Boruc was a liability in his final year, he seemed to like a night out rather than playing for Celtic. An honour he should never be given again.

Agree0 Disagree0

Boruc is a quality goalie. We dont have the luxury of being too high handed on this one.Sure he took the P*** to an extent but I think he has grown up over the past few years and such nonsense wont be tolerated a second time around in any case. I also think (no proof) FF may be on his way. So who now Craig Gordon..please no or Lucas? PS Big bad John liked a night out and I could name a dozen others who are idols at the club but I do understand the concern, I just think we should sign him if we have the chance as we as a Club dont have the luxury of turning down top players or a top European goalie with a proven track record.

Agree0 Disagree0

15 Apr 2012 09:44:26
Just read artur boruc said he would consider coming back to celtic and would have no probelm working under neil {lennnon} Me personaily a would love to c artur back but also get foster signed then sell either zaluska or cervi its very unlikey zaluska would be sold considering he just signed a new contract JAMES1888

Believable0 Unbelievable3

 
Change Consent