Celtic Rumours Archive January 14 2018

 

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14 Jan 2018 19:47:27
Read quite a few times of our scouts under John Park era getting a bit of abuse.

Not saying they were world class but I think some criticism is way over the top.

I mean these guys scout a list of players for a position and then the list gets narrowed down based on cost.

It comes down to Lawwell and co, who they are willing to spend on.

You can't blame a scout if the board pick the absolute cheapest on the list for the sake of saving an extra 2-3 million.

When Rodgers came in I felt even with new scouts we would see some targets brought in of a slightly higher quality but it seems it's just same old.

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14 Jan 2018 20:59:00
Sorry but whoever put Bangura, Balde, Ciftci, Cole or Kazim-Richards at the top of their list, based on cost or not, deserved their jotters.

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14 Jan 2018 23:29:21
That's kinda the whole point in what I posted. The scouts need to create a net of players.

It's not them that puts Ciftci and co at the top of the list.

That's Lawwell and co that decide who is top of the list. For example when Lewandowski and Huntelaar were fairly unknown they were on our scouting list.

board decided the 7-8mil at the time was too much money. I know Zurawski we took instead of Lewandowski.

Is that the scouts fault? it seems to me the board never seem to get criticism for this, only get praise when books are balanced but never held accountable for some of the terrible players we wasted money on.

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15 Jan 2018 00:37:04
PL and the board have been heavily criticised in recent times with regards to this exact issue. But I repeat, I don’t care what the scouts were told about cost etc. the players mentioned were nowhere near good enough for our club so they need to take their share responsibility for that. Even if Carlton Cole was at the very bottom of the list it was still too high.

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15 Jan 2018 00:58:10
As I said if a scout has to look at available strikers and come up with a list of say 30 players, then it's inevitable that not every player in that list is going to be a 30 goal a season striker.

If any scout could scout that accurately they could probably manage any team in the world and win the Champions League.

As I said in lists before we had the likes of Lewandowski and Huntelaar. On the same lists would have been the likes of Zurawski and Scott McDonald.

If you had the job as Scout at Real Madrid and were told you had a transfer cap of £10mil per player, is it your fault if you don't unearth the next Ronaldo on a terrible budget?

Obviously not, a scouts a job not a miracle worker. At Celtic these £3mil caps can be effective for some players but not all and the board have failed to push the boat out for that extra 2-3 players higher up these lists to make the difference.

Again Rodgers clearly said he wanted work done early in January window, just as he said he wanted a CB at start of season and didn't get one. Leaving him with Biton at the back for the CL.

Lawwell meanwhile does an easy job, it's easy to balance the books at Celtic if you hardly spend money lol. Yet he takes ridiculous bonus for doing nothing, on top of an already ridiculous salary. I think last year he took close to £2mil.

Now that makes me sound like his biggest enemy, I'm not. Overall the scouting strategy is fine but we need to up the budget to cast a bigger net and catch bigger fish.

If he wants to take huge salary and bonus imo he has to do more than just dominate an almost dead Scottish league.

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15 Jan 2018 08:58:19
Did PL really take home 2m?!? That's more than Chelsea or Liverpool's CEO salary!

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15 Jan 2018 10:48:46
My point Tesla is that a scout should never put forward a name when they know for a fact the guy isn’t good enough just because he’s within budget. Being within price range shouldn’t make you a target. We need a CB and Kirk Broadfoot’s within our budget, doesn’t mean he should be anywhere near a list of players we’re scouting.

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15 Jan 2018 13:16:29
JimTim - his Salary is just over £1mil with bonus but he also gets ELTIP payment for us getting into the champions league which is over 800,000

So he takes between 1.8 to 2 mil each time we make CL groups. Which for a club which supposedly posts 500k profits just at times in the past. handing out an extra million to a guy for doing his job is just a joke.

Kevbhoy, I get your point. I'm just saying that regardless of what scout we have if the board continue to play it too safe then we won't see much progression. one step forward and 2 steps back.

Doesn't matter if you have Park, Congerton or anyone else. The lists will be similar as that is what the board has asked for.

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15 Jan 2018 18:45:06
100% agree Tesla369.

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13 Jan 2018 23:02:50
Ed tell me there's no truth in the Di Santo link.

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14 Jan 2018 08:46:20
Really hope not man.

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14 Jan 2018 11:03:57
Would rather Santa.

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14 Jan 2018 11:45:31
Santa turns up more.

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14 Jan 2018 11:51:03
Di Santo replacement fir Dembele 😂😂😂

Read this and the comments from the big Italian turd about Jozo not being worth 8 million

Course he ain’t worth it just like VVD and John Stones ain’t worth 125 million but you pay what we ask for or look elsewhere.

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14 Jan 2018 12:20:41
Another made up piece. Just look at the paper, all figments of their imaginations.

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